Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
screw offmeta stuff in anything lower then diamond, even diamond isnt great elo. i always get so mad when i have another guy taking something retarded and losing us the game in the end just because he saw it on stream etc. clear line for trolling.
zestorer (EUW)
: It is so easy to flame/troll without consequences that people abuse it in ranked
i think trolls and afks should get instabanned. flamers not really.
: Every champion has some weak points. Like Udyr , Teemo dosen't need strong team fighting and he can still do a lot of damage from the back like other marksman
hes not tanky, he has no cc kit.. no escape.. he doesnt offer much man, you can only take him in very few lineups, for example when you have a tank jungler and tanky support then you CAN.
: About the Teemo rework
He has no teamfight.. hes only good for splitpushing or good in teamfights WHEN THE TEAM IS ALREADY LEADING. thats his weakness, teamfights.
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
: Old games you played.Yes it;s 8 months-1year ago but still these games are from your match history.
wasnt my account bro. only the recent games are mine. thats why i said it would never happen to me, as you can see in the last 20 games already.
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
this account is already banned.
: The first 3 are normal sorry.I have made these scores couple times . The last one ...well i don't know it's also possible . hansiman explained the difference between a bad player and a "pure feeder". So you can't complain if you had a bad player.Unless you prefer getting banned every couple weeks based your match history: 3/10 0/9 0/9/4 0/9/1 0/7/2 You also had bad games right? If not then you should also get punished.
nope, very rarely.. i never go 0/9 1/8 or 0/7 even.. what do you mean with -------- your match history: 3/10 0/9 0/9/4 0/9/1 0/7/2 this is certainly not my match history.
Hansiman (EUNE)
: Why should they? There's nothing wrong in playing a bad game. **Intentionally** feeding, however, is punished by 14 day bans for the first offence. There's been threads today even where a person complained about getting banned because he intentionally fed, so there are bans for it.
a bad game you say? well often i go to the feeders match history and they feed every single game.. 2/8 1/9 3/8 2/12 list goes on, and that is supposed to be in my elo?? that guy that feeds the whole time?? no. screw that, it should get punished.. thats not just ''a bad game''
Purejoyce (EUNE)
: Is key fragment bugged atm?
i wonder aswell.. its not random man no way.. got a few last week, everyday something. now this week.. NOTHING.
Oddball104 (EUNE)
: The Problem with leauge
Nope.. you sound like one of those people that doesnt care and just wants to ''have fun'' mostly in ranked its play 2 win, and people get upset if you block that goal. though i agree TROLLS should get instantly banned, but flamers often NOT ALWAYS have a legit reason to flame. (yes some of you are angels and feel like nothing should make u flame) but not everyone is the same and its unrealistic and cant be expected in a game which is played by 13 year olds and even younger.
maatias1 (EUNE)
: I didn't say anthing about her skill I just said that I feel like she is not the same champion she used to be
quite the point of a remake, and besides that look at sion.. that guy got almost TOTALLY CHANGED. kata kept a lot of her old stuff.
maatias1 (EUNE)
: Is there any chance to get old Katarina back?
she takes more skill now, but once you know how to really play her shes OP as hell
maatias1 (EUNE)
: Reworked Katarina or Old one?
The reworked Katarina is sooooo much more powerful if you master her. very very very strong, and imo OP.
: We don't need free stuff though. It's nice when we get it sure. But we don't need it. Especially when you ask for it!
well i didnt ask for it, but someone made this topic and i replied. and trust me when i say, that they can EASILY spare some skins etc..
: Well, yes. They're a company after all, but it doesn't change the fact that they do it for the players. Every company is "greedy" as they have to make money. Don't forget we've had 2 shop discounts this year. (yes, we have to pay with money but still)
: Outstanding ADC main looking for a support to climb! (Silver Elo)
House x33 (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Drackk,realm=EUW,application-id=eZuvYsEr,discussion-id=TgbviRxt,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2016-12-26T12:20:00.638+0000) > > unlike a stranger on the street i have connections with riot. > and am a customer. So, you expect every company, where you are a costumer at (electricity,internet,smart phone etc) to gift you something for christmas ?
a lot of them do actually. my mobile phone company gives free little presents (cases earplugs etc) my internet provider gave us free channels to watch for a bit. and electrcity etc i sadly HAVE TO PAY im not joining them for ''fun'' unlike league.
: And you get patches every month, new skins/champion and events. Stop acting so spoilt. Riot is a company and not a charity. Remember that!
and they do it for the money, you know that. and those champs skins etc you have to buy them. unless you have millions of IP and even then you cant buy skins with IP.
House x33 (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Drackk,realm=EUW,application-id=eZuvYsEr,discussion-id=TgbviRxt,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2016-12-26T12:01:37.019+0000) > > obviously not.. greedy company. You act like they're supposed to gift us something. Do you also expect a present from a stranger on the street ?
unlike a stranger on the street i have connections with riot. and am a customer.
: Manual chat restrictions?
agreed! no clue why you dont have the option.
Mcgalakar (EUNE)
: Wasn't there something about "Christmas is about giving, not receiving" thing? So you should ask, what can you give Riot, and not what you can receive.
obviously not.. greedy company.
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
because in MOST cases those f*ckers troll me FIRST. that is not manners is it, you get what you deserve and ill take my own justice im not gonna wait for some trash system to MAYBE punish him. he ruined my game, he ruined my points, he ruined my fun, SO SORRY IF I CALL HIM A c*nt. on top of that u pull it way out of context, 1) telling someone to kill himself isnt MILD FLAME. 2) i would never say that over someone following a baron call slowly.. dont bend it in your favor. but im done argueing with you as i said in my other post.
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
actually they banned me on just that 1 game its been several days and i now have more info. so that is that. and who the f*ck talks about excuses i always talked about UNDERSTANDING why someone flamed. im not gonna argue this again.
GLurch (EUW)
: Riot NEVER does this. They either banned you for something else, you are lying to us or you are not telling us everything.
uhmmm this happend to me 2 days ago dude. i was shocked myself. i made a ticket, i contacted them we shared several messages and they just found it so offensive to that 1 person i flamed that they just instantly permabanned me.. quite fricken harsh.
GLurch (EUW)
: So you're saying insults are perfectly needed in a teamgame? If we want to do baron and someone doesn't instantly follow up, better tell him to kill himself, because I am sure that will help, right?
pulling it way out of context and your giving an extreme example.
GLurch (EUW)
: >but I know it is still mean When something you say is mean, you can get punished for it. Although you would probably first start with a 10 game chat restriction, after that a 25 game chat restriction, 14 day ban and then a perma ban. For xenophobia, racism,... (REALLY harsh words) steps might be skipped, but there is at least a 14 day ban before the perma ban. And yes, behavior also stacks up. But those stacks get deleted after behaving good for about a few months.
NOPE, 2 days ago i got permabanned for homophobic remarks and telling someone to kill himself. i never had a chat restriction, never had a timeban.. they skipped everything and just instantly permabanned without any warning, message or whatsoever. 6 yes SIX years of good behaviour, all down the drain because of one, yes ONE flame game. harsh as f*ck.
Tiichu (EUW)
: Saying these things will get ban eventually?
those are the typical babys reporting you.. and riot is happy enough to please the babys.. riot wants us to treat eachother like its kindergarten. walk hand in hand, eat together, share crap. BACK IN MY DAY people didnt just get offended when you called them a noob or bad. but nowadays pfffff you get reported for those things you said. the world is raising a world of easily offended people. which just isnt healthy. something and someone shouldnt easily offend you. you have honor and dignity.
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
> [{quoted}](name=Shiwah,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=r0k2zUWg,comment-id=0000000000010000,timestamp=2016-12-25T10:03:13.147+0000) > > So, you mild flame 4 people, those 4 people, annoyed at you, mild flame other 4 people each, which makes 16 more people that get annoyed, and so on... > And you keep "mild flaming" new teamnates. > > You signed a contract stating that you should NOT flame, you broke this rule several times, no surprised you got shoved through the door. never did i say that ME PERSONALLY flame every game. on top of that if you read properly i got banned AFTER 6 YEARS. and only because of ONE GAME. also like i said, people can just mute and not be a baby everytime someone calls them a noob. jesust christ.
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
not that bad tbh imo.. you get new teammates every single game and so at most they will get mild flame towards them. IF he even flames, and u can mute aswell.
LordHumzy (EUW)
: hey guys honest opinion on my ban
i think its all mediocre flame.. nothing drastic. but hey, the world is becomming very pu$$y, and everyone keeps being easily offended.
: "You must be young." Completely the opposite..... "Your mother could have died, your girl could have just broken up with you." I wouldn't be playing games if this happened. "i had a terrible week to put it lightly." This doesn't excuse poor behaviour. "so a lot of gamers play to keep their minds occupied and for a small time get distracted from their real life problems. and just ''be'' something else for a bitt." If this is your escape then you really do have problems that sitting on a computer will not solve. What happened to playing for fun..... In short there is a whole world outside to go and explore, LoL is not the be all and end all. If you can't deal with real world problems then you need to seek help.
you might not play games others would for sure. it is best to carry on with things and do the daily things. the things around me happening might not excuse it but make it more understandable. also playing to disctract yourself etc, do you have any idea howmany people do this??? millions. i am also already getting help. but that doesnt mean i cant or shouldnt play games. peace.
DearPear (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Drackk,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=nidzqZH1,comment-id=0007000000000000,timestamp=2016-12-22T14:09:43.464+0000) > > thats something entirely different. > when u get out of jail you dont lose all your belongings. The accounts are the entire property of Riot Games. You lost no belongings. Only the access to the account that Riot lent you.
yes i know that, but they punish by taking it away. including all the money you spend on it. then atleast give back the money. you got back what u lend me. now dont take the rest. either way im not looking for a refund, im looking for an appeal.
Komkommer (EUW)
: Except the punishment for this behaviour is set as a perma-ban, and I fail to see why your case should be handled any differend. If Riot has to ask every player about the circumstances of their ban they will have to hire double the manpower to handle all the cases. Left aside every player is speaking the truth or not. Don't understand me wrong. I feel sorry for you and the loss of your account. Especailly since you show remorse. But you have to handle every report the same way. Otherwise there will be even more chaos and confusion about this punishment system
then its a very simple punishment system that holds not much value.. if your not gonna look at all factors thats quite well.. lazy.. though i understand there are millions of players and people get punished everyday. and this is why i made a ticket instantly yesterday. though i have seen A LOT of legit cases of people getting banned without being toxic. its all automated stuff, handled by bots and a self running operating system. but the point here is i know what i did was wrong, i know i didnt even get a restriction 6 years straight, and so i find it quite harsh to just throw in the perma.. so lets see what happens. maybe there should be a rule for first time offenders after x amount of years. we are humans.. not robots is what im saying. our real life affects everything
DearPear (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Drackk,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=nidzqZH1,comment-id=00070000,timestamp=2016-12-22T11:55:57.481+0000) > > ya but eventually they let you out of jail. And you can recreate an account. Sincerely, a robot.
thats something entirely different. when u get out of jail you dont lose all your belongings.
: > [{quoted}](name=Drackk,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=nidzqZH1,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2016-12-21T18:37:47.226+0000) > > Fair enough but it was only a few days of flaming, and due to personal issues, in all those years and thousands of games i never got a chat restriction or anything. > isnt that a big indicator that something happend to the person? > which is the case right now.. if you used hatespeech at all or made death threats or death wishes its an instant perma ban.
i know the ''rules'' that was never the point of my post.
Komkommer (EUW)
: Ok so in my countery you can face huge fines or even jailtime (depending on the severity) for racism and hatespeech. You won't escape your punishment if you explain to the judge you just had a bad week. You still did it, and you have to face the consequence of your actions. Same counts for LoL, you still have to deal with real people, with feelings. The rules are set for everyone, including those with a bad day/week. So face them, and move on.
ya but eventually they let you out of jail.
Me0wstic (EUW)
: Maybe you can send a ticket to riot?
I already did and im waiting for a reply. I hope they understand my case and dont treat me like a ragekid and send me some automated message. i hope they understand that im only human aswell, and see that i was behaving 6 years straight without even a chat restriction.. and see that something was wrong with me and thats why after 6 years i flamed for some games. im not a flamer, im someone that had a TERRIBLE week.
Lutka Lux (EUW)
: Seriously get over it create a new account. This is my 5th account, i am not even abusing chat anymore really i just did some griefing on the game because douche player banned champion i wanted to play as only so i could not play with it. But i must ask why you want your account back? what is so special about it that you cannot just swallow your pride and create a new one?
You still dont understand? i behaved for 6 years in a row and took flame, whine, trolls, afks, feeders without flaming back whatsoever. i was your model citizen. now all went to hell in only 1 day.. or even 1 game. THAT is why im appealing. we aint robots, we are humans.. i did fine six years long. what is 2 days on 6 years of good behaving. we people get stressed and frustrated etc.
: Hi Drackk (EUW), i think that you made a singel mistake that cost you your account. I will not agree or oppose you. All i can say is that the report system that deals with negative behavior in chat is a bot. Its a A.i., a cold and heartless machine/algorithm, so think about this when you type anything bad in chat. Everyone knows the consequences of going against the terms of use of the game. It does not matter if you were emotional unstable in that day or if you behave negatively frequently. Riot dont give instant perma bans without a reason, i am sure that if you look closely to the email Riot send you justifying your penalisation you will find those reasons. Note: > rather then taking it out on my family, breaking my furniture or stuff like that i took it out on league. You cant walk in a bar, punch everyone on the face, walk home and expect that will not be consequences... next time chose the furniture.
no, that simple logic wont work on me. i know the risks, however my point is im NOT a robot, im a human being and did fine 6 long years in a row in which i got trolled, flamed at, and yelled to day in day out. now sorry that i didnt uphold your code for the last couple of games and instantly got the perma. and unlike the people online, i CAN harm myself by hitting the doors, break things (including my hand) i rather yell at people that can simply mute me. HOWEVER i wish i didnt flame at all. it was wrong, but if i was a fortuneteller i would know when to stop beforehand and not play at all. also there was no email. i already send them a ticket and lets see what that will do. if they think outside the box and actually hear what i have to say, then i have a chance. not every rage is the same. if i flamed everyday, and called people homophobic things on top of it then fair enough. but this is far from the actual case.
Purejoyce (EUNE)
: This is weird and I feel like you don't give us real context here. ~~I wonder what you had to say in order to skip all the punishment tiers and jump right into perma ban?~~ Also why do you say that it was >1 BIG rage game even tho in a previous post you wrote >it was only a few days of flaming ? So which one is it, one game or few days in a row? I don't think you're telling the truth here. Maybe you even had previous "warnings" (chat restrictions/2 week ban), but decided to not say the truth again. Already seen the thread on this forum not so long ago where OP claimed he got "insta perma banned without previous warnings" and then Riot stuff member cleared up that he had 2 week ban a month or so earlier.
no.. i had 1 BIG rage game in which i mostly flamed. and that game was also the game that riot decided to show me when i got banned.. no other games were shown. i raged 2 days long, though i didnt flame every game at all. im not 12, i dont lie. me saying i have 1 BIG rage game, doesnt mean it was the only one.. its just 1 BIG one.
Hansiman (EUNE)
: Greetings. When it comes to permabans, it's no as much as exactly how severe your behaviour is, but rather how consistent you are with your negative behaviour, and for how long you've had this behaviour. A permaban is a final solution for players that have refused to reform over time. Even if you consider this behaviour mild, am I not correct in assuming that you've had multiple punishments already for this behaviour? The punishments you had in the past were warnings, indicating that you're not behaving within community standards. Since you haven't shown signs of wanting to reform, or at least far from enough, Riot is left with no option but to permanently ban you from the game. --- In your case, what others said or did in your game doesn't matter. Only your behaviour is judged, which is all that matters here. If other players were being negative, they'll get their own cases where their behaviour gets reviewed, and not yours. If people bother you ingame, the correct approach is always to mute them, and report them once the game is over. If you did that, only they would risk a punishment, and not you.
> [{quoted}](name=Hansiman,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=9wEftqpa,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-12-21T21:00:41.285+0000) > > Greetings. > > When it comes to permabans, it's no as much as exactly how severe your behaviour is, but rather how consistent you are with your negative behaviour, and for how long you've had this behaviour. > > A permaban is a final solution for players that have refused to reform over time. Even if you consider this behaviour mild, am I not correct in assuming that you've had multiple punishments already for this behaviour? > we talked about mine half an hour ago! no time given to reform, no consistent flaming for long either! but w/e gues mine is a different case :)
Hansiman (EUNE)
: You can contest the ban by contacting support, and have them do a second review. But I can't be here to claim that this will be a good chance for you, because it isn't. Riot is very strict on their policies to never unban players that have been correctly punished by the Tribunal systems. They treat every player the exact same way in that regard, and will not provide special treatment. If the ban was 100% a mistake, they'll revert it.
im not asking for ''special treatmeant'' im looking for thorough investigation instead of branding everyone the same. every case is different, yet we get treated like you said the same. and if its a 100% mistake or not is a matter of perspective, i 100% broke the rules that is certain. those laws are clear. but we are also humans with intentions and emotions, just like the people that created those rules, and they know damn well that we aint robots and more often then not mean WELL.
Hansiman (EUNE)
: Homophobia has always been one of those things that can escalate you straight to a 14 day ban, or permaban, since the vast majority of the community states that it is **never** acceptable under any circumstance, regardless of what the behaviour of others towards you is. It's pretty simple I'm afraid. It's not ok to use homophobic behaviour in this game, and you're unwanted when you have such behaviour.
i dont care what the vast majority of 14 year olds think.. i care about how riot thinks about stuff and the ''suspect'' if hes sorry, his motives, his believes and how and why he did something. while also looking back at his criminal history. but by the look of it, riot doesnt look into any of it and give a verdict on 1 or a few max games over 6 years. and hell, even criminals that shoot someone get out of jail. im not even given the chance to reform, nore did i recieve a warning message saying ''1 more time and you will get an instant permaban, you have been warned'' what i did was wrong and i broke the rules but dang.. cut some people a bit of slack. not everyone is a hating rage clown. this doesnt solve anything either really.. i could just go and create a new account aswell. while being more pissed off. and if that gets banned i can make another 1 and tell people horrible things again. hell you can even buy accounts from e-bay nowadays. give someone a chance to rehabilitate. now there is a bigger chance to just make someone super mad.. (im not, im a mature adult) but im just saying.
: if you have personal issues why are you not sorting them out rather than playing games.....
You must be young. Some things you cant fix on the spot, or in 1 day. Your mother could have died, your girl could have just broken up with you. you could have lost your job. and here you sit at home bored and frustrated. you could get even beaten up by your parents, or a lot of other things. i had a terrible week to put it lightly. and so a lot of gamers play to keep their minds occupied and for a small time get distracted from their real life problems. and just ''be'' something else for a bitt.
Infernape (EUW)
: So did you use hate speech, make death threats, etc.? Do you mind posting your complete, unedited chat logs.
there is no need to post it, i said some horrible things and im ashamed of it. my point is that its the first time in 6 years.. SIX YEARS of good behaviour. all gone down the toilet in 2 days, or even in ONE game.
Hansiman (EUNE)
: > they only showed me that 1 game aswell. In cases of permabans it's normal that they only send you one game as evidence, since that's really all that's needed to show you what type of behaviour got you punished. However, every single game you were reported in were judged.
maybe, either way would be nice if a dev replied himself. i wanna see if they are human and understand that not everyone is just your average ragekid and would like to see how they view things besides the standard rule book. a person that always flames and then gets banned on homophobia is different from someone that has never done anything and then gets banned for it.. we all have bad days man. and 6 years of consistent good behaviour is a sh!itload.. sorry that i broke for 2 days in those damn 6 fricken years.
Hansiman (EUNE)
: > and it came really fast. That's the point of the current system. When an investigation on your account has been triggered, a verdict is issued within 15 minutes. If you're up for an immediate permaban, we're not talking about mild stuff. There's simply no excuse for it, and it's completely unwanted behaviour.
like i said, what i did was wrong.. but it was still only 1 outbreak in 6 fricken years. and mostly i think based one game, they only showed me that 1 game aswell. i think its a really harsh verdict. do they take nothing in consideration? just look at the words and boom? come on now.. i had people telling me that my family should die, that i should get cancer, and that hitler should rise and destroy my jew family AND HE DIDNT GET BANNED. and thats a true story, one of many in the 6 long years of playing. now i behave and never argue or flamed back, and now this 1 time i do, i instantly get doomed.
Hansiman (EUNE)
: > anyone can snap for a game.. and thats exactly what happend to me, 1 BIG rage game. and i got permabanned.. i used some homophobic remarks, and said that he should die etc. Then that's enough to skip waves of restrictions. Also, you earlier stated that you had this behaviour for a few days, so it's more than 1 game as you state here. If your account has been permabanned for verbal misbehaviour, I'm afraid that's it. There's absolutely no coming back from it.
a few days, like i said i had a terrible week.. whats a week on SIX YEARS of good behaviour, hell in life we also sometimes fight and call eachother stuff. we aint robots. also with a few days its actually just 2 days.. barely 2 days. 2 days of unhappy gaming, in which i didnt even flame every game. besides they only showed me 1 game anyway indicating that they mostly cared about that 1. since that one was 10x more severe. i still think its overkill, and doesnt really do justice for all the good behaviour. a 1 week ban and a message would have been a clear signal to knock it off. this came out of the blue. and it came really fast.
tihs (EUW)
: ***
OK your a robot. and a true mature, grownup, president like obama. its not that simple. but thanks for your informative, well build up, deep wisdom.
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