Dratan (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Torpedosheep,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=EKn8UEaq,comment-id=00020000000100000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-11-01T17:10:30.522+0000) > > Uhm, I have reason to believe you are lying to me. > > First of all, the player support will not give you any information about other players' punishments. Secondly, they certainly didn't say this doesn't justify a ban, because we clearly see from all these banned players that this behavior is not okay. > > You'll have to show me screenshots of the Player Supports answer, otherwise I can't this story of yours, sorry. actually wasnt em to tell me he is not banned . i just cheaked it on my own. he is not banned. the one reporting me in this last game of mine was called (redacted) U GET IT his nick in game is (redacted)........ he trolls he ints he flames and he too is not banned but is playing today again.
ahh 1 more thing. why shoud i lie? i already got banned. i copy paste all the chat. if i wanted to lie i was going to delete the 1 word most of you said is "racist" i just want to have some faith restored at least from other players after what riot did to me in TOTALLY UNFAIR MODE. yes unfair cause if this behaviour is punishable then they MUST punish all not 1 or 2 . riot said me 0.006 % is that toxic as enough to get the ban....... serious? I MEAN SERIOUSLY? 0.006% in my last 30 games all 30 games there was at last 1 or 2 flaming someone else.
: Uhm, I have reason to believe you are lying to me. First of all, the player support will not give you any information about other players' punishments. Secondly, they certainly didn't say this doesn't justify a ban, because we clearly see from all these banned players that this behavior is not okay. You'll have to show me screenshots of the Player Supports answer, otherwise I can't this story of yours, sorry.
> [{quoted}](name=Torpedosheep,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=EKn8UEaq,comment-id=00020000000100000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-11-01T17:10:30.522+0000) > > Uhm, I have reason to believe you are lying to me. > > First of all, the player support will not give you any information about other players' punishments. Secondly, they certainly didn't say this doesn't justify a ban, because we clearly see from all these banned players that this behavior is not okay. > > You'll have to show me screenshots of the Player Supports answer, otherwise I can't this story of yours, sorry. actually wasnt em to tell me he is not banned . i just cheaked it on my own. he is not banned. the one reporting me in this last game of mine was called (redacted) U GET IT his nick in game is (redacted)........ he trolls he ints he flames and he too is not banned but is playing today again.
: Sigh.... wanna bet im way older than you? Nvm.. i would win this anyway. Thing is: you are still thinking about the problem, not the solution. The sooner you get it that your account is gone for good the sooner you can think about playing this game any longer. You can create a new account and keep being like above. Thats fine. But the next account will be banned aswell. Sooner or later. Or you can work on your attitude. Assuming my age and judging my opinion on it for example is pretty... well, i hope you get it. Get it in your had: we think you are toxic, rito thinks it. When you realize it yourself you are one step closer to improving yourself.
> [{quoted}](name=XxD4Rk5L4SH0RxX,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=EKn8UEaq,comment-id=0001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-11-01T17:37:45.598+0000) > > Sigh.... wanna bet im way older than you? Nvm.. i would win this anyway. > > Thing is: you are still thinking about the problem, not the solution. > The sooner you get it that your account is gone for good the sooner you can think about playing this game any longer. > You can create a new account and keep being like above. Thats fine. But the next account will be banned aswell. Sooner or later. > > Or you can work on your attitude. Assuming my age and judging my opinion on it for example is pretty... well, i hope you get it. Get it in your had: we think you are toxic, rito thinks it. When you realize it yourself you are one step closer to improving yourself. stop saying we big boy, is you., there is no we. others can write own opinion without getting represented by you. and dont speak as u speaking the only truth. if riot makes a decision to ban someone 1 thing is sure. this doesnt mean is the right decision. is only the decision taken from a random dude who sees the players as numbers. said that no way i am creating another account. already got dissapointed form this game once.
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
> [{quoted}](name=Shiwah,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=EKn8UEaq,comment-id=0000000000040002,timestamp=2017-11-01T12:56:57.838+0000) > > I'm Italian. I only heard that as a slur against Down syndrome patients. I never talked about racism. > And, as I guessed, you are Italian and you knew full well you were calling the other player a %%%%%%ed person. We know as well. We aren't stupid. u know but seems u know nothing. i dont know in what italy u living but u can hear it every freking where. everywhere inside families in streets etc etc. and I HIGHLY DOUBT people hate each other soo much to offed em that much as u seem offended from this . BE REAL . i went out for a coffe today today . and for what i heard from random people in the stress and at the bar. 90%of em is permabanned in this HEAVENLY GAME called LOL. (most of em were girls)
: It might be harsh, but it's fair, considering this isn't the first time you misbehaved. There's only a limited amount of chances you get, and the 14-day ban is the final warning, which you seemed to have ignored. --- Just because other people do worse things, doesn't mean your violations should be tolerated, that's never a good idea. The IFS isn't random, every player is judged in the same way, but of course there are many factors that have to be considered when issuing a punishment.
i send riot support. screen shots of people writing to me" %%%" "SLITT YOUR THROAT "etc etc etc,.... and they said "meh" cant ban em jsut for that.... please soo dont come and say me is the same fuc... thing please. i got proves of people writing %%% to others and they still playing. thats bannable not a shitty word that depends who u interpreat it.
: Im talking for system here which includes the whole playerbase. We all agree to the rules, most of us follow them. Well, you dont need that anymore, do you ?
why this level 16 account keep spaming in my post? how old are you by the way casue teh way u talk makes u seem a bit young
: That's not how it works. Rioters don't look at every report you get, and even if they would, they don't just ban you because what you said offends them personally. They keep their hands out of punishments. You clearly wrote this to insult your teammate, you can't twist this around.
> [{quoted}](name=Torpedosheep,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=EKn8UEaq,comment-id=0002000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2017-11-01T11:45:43.274+0000) > > That's not how it works. > > Rioters don't look at every report you get, and even if they would, they don't just ban you because what you said offends them personally. They keep their hands out of punishments. > > You clearly wrote this to insult your teammate, you can't twist this around. oh wow. ok then bohh. soo u think is fair someone gets a permaban for that?1 word in 7 years while others do and say way WAYYYYYYYY more every day? if u punish do it with same judgment for everyone or dont do it at all. otherwise is jsut unfairness toward some random player ,in that case me.
: keep spamming them mails until you get an actual staffmember and not a scriptbot answer
> [{quoted}](name=Kechoplsgrpmid,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=EKn8UEaq,comment-id=000100000001,timestamp=2017-11-01T11:51:59.933+0000) > > keep spamming them mails until you get an actual staffmember and not a scriptbot answer i will and let's hope ^^{{champion:32}}
: If something like this would happen in my game, i'd tell my team to ignore him and mute him to block any further harm to the game. Games can be won 4v5, I've been in those games. Inting and trolling is harder to detect, that's why you can type an explanation when you report someone. You got perma banned bot because of flaming one game, you must have flamed multiple games, like a minimum of 20 to 50 games to get perma banned, except if you used racism slurs and death threats because then you skip punishment tiers and you get banned faster.
it was only 1 game and u can read the chat. let's be serious here. go now and play a ranked game. u will read worse things with just 1 game . u know that .we all know it. i mute people too but never helped winning the msot part of games where someone jsut wants to lsoe it . u can do much about it,
: No, that is how they treat toxic %%%%heads. Noone wants you in this game.
XxD4Rk5L4SH0RxX u seem like a nasty person. why u keep writing in every single post offending me? why u even with a level 16 account? got banned maybe? why u talkign big saying noone wants me? who are you? why u talking for million of people?
Doomley (EUW)
: >if u ask an italian u will understand that mongol is not a racist thing or other. Well, it doesn't matter what something means in italy when the language used to communicate with others in the game is english. you can call someone ugly in english but if the word "ugly" means beautiful in italy (i'm sure it doesn't but as an example), you are still offending someone. You can't just put in words from your language in a sentence that is written in english. Then we use english to determine if you were offensive or not. Not Italian.
bor . not everyone playing LOL got the perfect caption of everysingle term in english. most of people got just a basic understanding of it. anyway cause we going out of the discussion here. is it fair 1 word which got different meaning is enough to permaban someone playing for 7 years?
: Yeah it is. You had your 14day ban. If you had had the slightest interest in your account than you would have googled what this is. Its a last warning. One more offense and your are out... Now look what you did, Im honest here. I dont feel sorry.
obvious u dont feel srry .is my account not your. once it will be your u will feel it. a lot of people get like 10 chat restriction first then 1 or 2 14 days bans only after that comes the permaban. u are seeing it like not your busines. but it shoudnt work like that. i repeat i was talking to someone who was offending me and another one for inted and trolled in ranked. I WASNT the one starting to abuse others. i only reacted. there is a huge difference
: No, because calling someone Italian is not commonly understood as an insult. It's not about how you and me interpret the word...
sure it is bro. if i write it in game and someone working for riot sees it and he is italian maybe. he gets offended and permaban me cause he thinks i called someone mafia . i didnt write to the other one something created to be offensive. and i wrote to riot to ban 2 mounths ban even 3 mouths,but not permma for something like that . we are talking about very few games with bad behaviour in more than 5000 games. keep that in mind. how can this be fair?
: Its not racism. Its hatespeech on the cost of disabled people. This is even worse in my oppinion.
> [{quoted}](name=XxD4Rk5L4SH0RxX,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=EKn8UEaq,comment-id=0000000000040000,timestamp=2017-11-01T10:51:05.808+0000) > > Its not racism. Its hatespeech on the cost of disabled people. This is even worse in my oppinion. no is not. u cant just make my words mean what YOU want em to mean. maybe in 1 language sayign hello is an actual crime. makes you a criminel saying hello? u can punish someone for something like that. and here it it the name of the troller that cause all that. [redacted] HIS ACTUAL nick in gmae is an offense toward the company that created the game and punish people but he is still playing right now after i reproted him for int and troll in ranked. he didnt get punished . he trolled he inted and LOOK AT HIS NAME go on op.gg or where u want. he is playing now. even his NICK is an offense. CMONNN
: Sorry for your loss. I can feel for you, I mean losing a 7 year old account over a couple of bad words in a couple of days. Just take it as a lesson and next time don't pay a single cent on your smurf account. You don't know when you are going to get banned so why put in, in an unreliable system. Everything is offensive to every one. Didn't knew Mongol was a racist term, this is another clue that people should just mute all from the start. I just wish they give an option of muting all from start including one's own-self. But I guess that way they wouldn't make as much $, as they do now. More banned accounts = smurf accounts = RP bought. And no, new players don't run away because of toxicity. Marketing, friends, recommendations drags them into the game and addiction keeps them in-game.
nahh new account? nahh 1 thing i really hate is seeing un unjust thing happen to you. there is no way i go and spend my time with new account. i had only 1 account , and if they dont give it back to me no more. this was a sad joke riot did to me after spending soo much time and money on them thinking they were a cool company. no more. the delusion towards them is to high if they dont turn on their steps
: "Mongolian" isn't a race, and deductive reasoning can help us understand that OP wasn't randomly assuming people's ethinicities. This is clearly meant to be an insult, and you know it.
1 more thing torpedosheep . if someone writes in game PUSH ITALIAN . shoud i be offended cause he meant to call me MAFiA?? some still may use it as offense for me is like totally "meh". u cant permaban someone for how you interpreat jsut 1 word.
: Greetings. It seems like this punishment was justified. The misbehavior itself might not seem like it deserves a permaban, but your history always plays an important role! The 14-day is your last chance, it even says so in the reform card you received. You clearly didn't use this chance to pull yourself together :/ --- >what a sad sad joke > ff and u are reported >is just a waste of time You started being negative, acting like the game is lost, and calling out reports is really not helpful. It creates a negative environment, and often leads to flame wars... But that's just a rather small problem here. >ori 4 times biot PUSH MONGOL THIS is a bigger problem. Your flatout insulting your teammate for making a decision that you believe was wrong... The word "mongol" is a very serious insult, and calling someone this word because they are playing the game wrong is a little over-the-top, don't you think so?
> [{quoted}](name=Torpedosheep,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=EKn8UEaq,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-10-31T20:01:58.978+0000) > > Greetings. > > It seems like this punishment was justified. > The misbehavior itself might not seem like it deserves a permaban, but your history always plays an important role! > > The 14-day is your last chance, it even says so in the reform card you received. > You clearly didn't use this chance to pull yourself together :/ > > --- > > You started being negative, acting like the game is lost, and calling out reports is really not helpful. It creates a negative environment, and often leads to flame wars... > But that's just a rather small problem here. > PUSH MONGOL > > THIS is a bigger problem. > Your flatout insulting your teammate for making a decision that you believe was wrong... > > The word "mongol" is a very serious insult, and calling someone this word because they are playing the game wrong is a little over-the-top, don't you think so? no i dont think so for the only fact i was over the line for sure, but i just got mad for 1 GAME with 3 trollers which 2 were premades and protecting each other for every misteke they made. and u know probably when all psuh on the other side of victory in solo queue , pretty sure everyone gets upseat. this is not the way i always do. i usully mute all and go chill mode but u cant do it every single timecmon ADMIT it. we all had that bad period. this 2 suspensions were the only 2 i got in 7 years soo maybe a bit of chill with the permabans woudnt hurt riot. we all know what happens in solo queue , let's be honest. and most part of people react way worse. but i am seeing em daily in ranked games. soo pretty sure riot is not using the same judgment for everyone. give me a chat restriction god damn it.if u dont want me to write. do a permaban chat restriction . i woud even be glad. but not my account. keep in mind i was jsut reacting to something unfair that someone else was doing to me. i wasnt the one abusing the others. 1 was trolling and the 2 premades were offending . jesus if i am not wrong my adc in that game (not premade) even honored me for trying to win an impossible game cmon
: Well, no... This is not how language works. You can't stick to strict definitions here! --- Even though terms might have perfectly harmelss meanings originally, people sometimes start using them as insults. And once they use them as insults, they'll be commonly understood as such! If OP used any other nationality, it would've been a different story, but for whatever reason "mongol" is often used as an insult, and is also perceived as such.
well u find it fair enough to permaban someone jsut for writing 1 word who some get it in 1 way and some in another. IS that enough for a permaban jsut 1 word jsut 1 game in 7 years?
Shiwah (EUW)
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in italian is not a slur . is something u hear in the daily life around. maybe not the nicest word but surely nothing to do with racism etc.
Doomley (EUW)
: >Dratan: PUSH MONGOL Racism is a thing that will get you banned very quickly.
w8 a second. i live in italy . if u ask an italian u will understand that mongol is not a racist thing or other. is something u hear a mother say to her own kid in the street . totally not in the category of "dont say words" . i dont know the meaning of it in other languages but here is kind of normal maybe not the most normal thing but surely nothing to do with racism. i dont know how to properly translate it. is like slowy or something like that. and for those who said means down syndrome..... wtf i repeat i dont know what those in britain or other countries use it for. in my country is nothing that bad. and a permaban for this only is unacceptable. i asked riot put 1 or 2 mounths suspension. permaban jsut for 1 game in those circumstances is just unfair. p.s. i copy paste all the chat and hide nothing.
Dratan (EUW)
: yes actually ,i learned something . i learned that if u want to evoid bans from riot u need to be the troller like the guy i was writing mostly who wrote in champ select" ohh shitt they picked my heimer. i am going to have fun this game and going yi top". 30 min later that yi top was 0 6 0 and was following me and other teammates in the map spaming the dance and laughing at us. he didnt wrote much. but he trolled and int in ranked in plat3 and now he isnt ban meanwhile ,me , the one who got trolled and lost a game in an unfair mode after playing seriously ,lost the account. p.s. we are talking about a permaban for an account with more than 5000 games for sure. and i got banned only this 2 times. in 7 years. now come and tell me u never ever lost patience with someone trolling you,at least if u are the one doing it to others .
ahh and blablabla is what he wrote to me while i was talkign to him he responded with blablablablabla. i was repeating his words.
: "This blablabla will cost you a report for intentionally losing a ranked game" This costed you your account buddy. I hope you learned from this.
yes actually ,i learned something . i learned that if u want to evoid bans from riot u need to be the troller like the guy i was writing mostly who wrote in champ select" ohh shitt they picked my heimer. i am going to have fun this game and going yi top". 30 min later that yi top was 0 6 0 and was following me and other teammates in the map spaming the dance and laughing at us. he didnt wrote much. but he trolled and int in ranked in plat3 and now he isnt ban meanwhile ,me , the one who got trolled and lost a game in an unfair mode after playing seriously ,lost the account. p.s. we are talking about a permaban for an account with more than 5000 games for sure. and i got banned only this 2 times. in 7 years. now come and tell me u never ever lost patience with someone trolling you,at least if u are the one doing it to others .
: you wrote as much in one game as i do in a week. permban not justified then again you had prior offenses because they dont hand out permbans , also this is not the place for it - submit a ticket if you really feel you´ve been treated unfairly and keep sending them mails about it until someone competent handles your case.
i did but they send a copy paste text and close the case. that's how they treat their costumers.
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