Infernape (EUW)
: It's temporary.
feels badman emote would been nice :C
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: Please don't be mandatory. I will lose it. 100% the only person it'll stop from logging into my account is me. :(
> [{quoted}](name=Zantonny,realm=EUW,application-id=Mpd1UjGe,discussion-id=TMJ04qtW,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-12-25T11:55:34.048+0000) > > Please don't be mandatory. I will lose it. 100% the only person it'll stop from logging into my account is me. :( you know you have choise either get it or not. Blizz and jagex gives you choise for phone authenticator or they will send you one via mail.
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: dont you feel that if you "have to" counter pick him to succeed he is too strong most of the time if i get countered ist like, ok lets try to play safe and farm but if darius counters me you are just going to die over and over. and also you dont always get th oppertunity to counter
> [{quoted}](name=sirhobbles,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=s6VuYBx8,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2016-07-29T14:43:05.576+0000) > > dont you feel that if you "have to" counter pick him to succeed he is too strong most of the time if i get countered ist like, ok lets try to play safe and farm but if darius counters me you are just going to die over and over. and also you dont always get th oppertunity to counter thats not really true. counter doesnt always mean you can beat him or if he counters you, you dont have chanse to beat him. You just need think: Can you win him 1v1 in lane? or like "if jungler comes, can we 2v1?" and play around that.
: NERF KOG MAW
kog'maw is very squishy and immobile champ. He dies for cc or assassin can shot him dead. only escape he got really is flash/ghost but if you cc him down or assassin jumps on him and he dont have backup like tank/cc champion, you pretty much deal him dead. Kog'maw is only strong if gets ingored like twitch.
: the current state of darius
darius is not that strong in the end if you can avoid his q or his reach ability (e). he is very kiteable and many champions does well against him like fiora (best short trader against him); trundle (with fervor you pretty much beat him at lv 1-3 but if you dnt, wait 6 and kill him with your ultimate). He is strong but if you know how to play against him, you can pretty much beat him in lane. He is good at low elo beacuse people dont know how to play against him or how to kite him. If you are melee champion, only fiora can kite him well and then again its about can u stop his hook with your w or do u mess it up. He is those champions that are strong only if gets ahead (like pantheon but he doesnt get punished that easily.) but if you can get him behind and punish him hard he will be squishy first 20min unless he goes smart and buy resists first but 90% of them goes still to black cleaver and armor boots/mr boots so you dnt have much problem against him. Best way to deal with him is wait jungle gank and try outfarm him while avoiding his hooks and trades unless you know you can actually beat him 1v1.... Trundle is imo best way deal with him beacuse he cannot really kill you lvls 1-3 but if you are not sure that u can kill him that early or fail doing it... wait trundle 6 and then go all in and keeping him in long duels with pillar. pretty much you've won or atleast forcing his flash out. but he cannot dive you early so if you can freeze wave near tower, he pretty much need to overextend for xp and cs. gives jungler good time to come and take him out with you. Just be careful and avoid his reach ability, you do fine even if q hits you. darius comes under tower: use your ability that slows or stops him getting out from tower range like (fiora w, shen taunt,trundle pillar, maokai root,cho q etc) i'm s5 yes and some people think i dont know a shit what i'm talking about but i've had so much experience about darius while palying trundle, i pretty much have good insight what to do again and yes i'm bad explainer but i hope this helped you even little.... and if you have hard time still in lane, you should watch leaguecraft videos. they give very good tips for you.. sorry about this off-topic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iko2tqmDpJQ anyway if you have some questions about darius match up or you didnt understand something i said you are free to ask and i bet there is a lot high elo players who can help you better than i am :).
Doomley (EUW)
: well I am a Finn and i have coached a few challenger teams and a challenger friend. (this is a smurf account so don't let that deceive you :) )
> [{quoted}](name=Doomley,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=rhMLn1Ql,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-07-28T20:06:42.057+0000) > > well I am a Finn and i have coached a few challenger teams and a challenger friend. (this is a smurf account so don't let that deceive you :) ) who is your real account :P
R FLASH XD (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Father Tios,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=rhMLn1Ql,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-07-28T21:54:22.443+0000) > > But... Why Finnish..? So they can talk in their own language duh
> [{quoted}](name=Horny Flamingo,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=rhMLn1Ql,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2016-07-28T22:12:16.027+0000) > > So they can talk in their own language duh you got that right xD. english is little harder on me and i'm euw so .p
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: When this shit gona be stoped !?
its aram. dont care about it.
: I think the focus of the discussion has slanted a bit to the side. I never said that "bad play" should be punished, now did I. What i asked for is that games are reviewed more thoroughly before handing out bans. Preferably with an actual replay instead of just the chatlog. You might argue that it doesnt matter since only "bad language" is to be punished. however, i think, how someone comes to the conclusion that the guy he is complaining about sucks, factors in to it. This is exactly why judges (actual judges, not just "CaptainFreckles14" when his internet is too choppy to play ranked" ) always consider the motives behind a misdeed. True, punished will be according to law, but this is why we have iurisprudentia, and this is why laws are revised from time to time. Consider this: The laws regarding murder in Germany are being reviewed RIGHT in this moment: For example, if a woman poisons her abusive husband - should that be considered "full" murder, with at least 15 years in prison awaiting her, or can (a degree) of clemency be showed? The deed may be premeditated (kind of) but are there REALLY what german law used to call "niedrige beweggründe" (base motives) for it ? By tribunal logic this means: She = Warwick , He = Urf ---------------> PUNISH I wont talk about the game that got me banned, its pointless, and bad taste to bring that up. Also note, that i repeatedly stated that i am not doing this for MY benefit. AS for "why i cant rise above them" - You know where this is going right? As a matter of fact, I am a fighter. I play just as well if fueled by a little righteous anger. "Flaming" has nothing to do with how i perform (Neither does being flamed, which happens rarely. See what i said about the mute function. Even if i mute them - why would i care about what some douche on the internet thinks, right? Oh wait, why i am even on this forum... EXISTENTIAL CRISIS DETECTED). Yes I think that i am not playing my elo, and yes my main lane (adc) is definitely a cut above silver (and has been for about a season now), and yes, people who know my actual play, know this. That doesnt matter here though (since i can not prove it to you in a meaningful way, and even if i could, it wouldnt matter much) All I am saying is, ELoHell is VERY real. You know what would solve a lot of problems?** Voice over IP for ranked games**. (Mutable, of course) If you could just communicate to the players what you need in the situations, or how to counter specific matchup, the gameplay of even the most unexperienced would improve IMMEDIATELY. The in-game-chat is a nice feature to have, but fact is, **you dont have the time to communicate all the necessary information in the middle of a game via the chat**, especially if you have someone in desperate need of coaching. Every second counts - and every second you are typing, you arent playing. _ Its like whipping out your phone to send a text message to your Left Winger to get the ball during a soccer match. _ And if someone flatout doesnt listen to any of his teammates (buys full magres with galio despite the enemeis being full ad............. Has no Tankkilling items vs a tank comp at 30 minutes......... magus enchantment on ad jungler........whatever the fuck). Then, no shit, THIS one needs to get reported, and not the frustrated player calling him an idiot.
> [{quoted}](name=GemischtesGemüse,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=di1E7ElV,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2015-07-07T04:09:40.696+0000) > > I think the focus of the discussion has slanted a bit to the side. I never said that "bad play" should be punished, now did I. What i asked for is that games are reviewed more thoroughly before handing out bans. Preferably with an actual replay instead of just the chatlog. > > You might argue that it doesnt matter since only "bad language" is to be punished. however, i think, how someone comes to the conclusion that the guy he is complaining about sucks, factors in to it. > > This is exactly why judges (actual judges, not just "CaptainFreckles14" when his internet is too choppy to play ranked" ) always consider the motives behind a misdeed. True, punished will be according to law, but this is why we have iurisprudentia, and this is why laws are revised from time to time. > > Consider this: The laws regarding murder in Germany are being reviewed RIGHT in this moment: For example, if a woman poisons her abusive husband - should that be considered "full" murder, with at least 15 years in prison awaiting her, or can (a degree) of clemency be showed? The deed may be premeditated (kind of) > but are there REALLY what german law used to call "niedrige beweggründe" (base motives) for it ? > > By tribunal logic this means: She = Warwick , He = Urf ---------------> PUNISH > > > I wont talk about the game that got me banned, its pointless, and bad taste to bring that up. Also note, that i repeatedly stated that i am not doing this for MY benefit. > > AS for "why i cant rise above them" - You know where this is going right? As a matter of fact, I am a fighter. I play just as well if fueled by a little righteous anger. "Flaming" has nothing to do with how i perform (Neither does being flamed, which happens rarely. See what i said about the mute function. Even if i mute them - why would i care about what some douche on the internet thinks, right? Oh wait, why i am even on this forum... EXISTENTIAL CRISIS DETECTED). > > Yes I think that i am not playing my elo, and yes my main lane (adc) is definitely a cut above silver (and has been for about a season now), and yes, people who know my actual play, know this. That doesnt matter here though (since i can not prove it to you in a meaningful way, and even if i could, it wouldnt matter much) All I am saying is, ELoHell is VERY real. > > > > > You know what would solve a lot of problems?** Voice over IP for ranked games**. (Mutable, of course) If you could just communicate to the players what you need in the situations, or how to counter specific matchup, the gameplay of even the most unexperienced would improve IMMEDIATELY. The in-game-chat is a nice feature to have, but fact is, **you dont have the time to communicate all the necessary information in the middle of a game via the chat**, especially if you have someone in desperate need of coaching. Every second counts - and every second you are typing, you arent playing. > _ > Its like whipping out your phone to send a text message to your Left Winger to get the ball during a soccer match. _ > > And if someone flatout doesnt listen to any of his teammates (buys full magres with galio despite the enemeis being full ad............. Has no Tankkilling items vs a tank comp at 30 minutes......... magus enchantment on ad jungler........whatever the fuck). Then, no shit, THIS one needs to get reported, and not the frustrated player calling him an idiot. well your first message told clearly that building bad and playing bad is punishable
DireXcon (EUNE)
: Yea but the problem is that the minion wave was freezed to my tower for a reason because I know what Jax can do taking so much gold and xp from me and PUSHING me right to his tower is not a good idea, like I said, he is bronze V so you can get an idea (I checkd his acc. after the game)
> [{quoted}](name=DireXcon,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=8Whatd4R,comment-id=00070000,timestamp=2015-07-07T11:55:39.167+0000) > > Yea but the problem is that the minion wave was freezed to my tower for a reason because I know what Jax can do taking so much gold and xp from me and PUSHING me right to his tower is not a good idea, like I said, he is bronze V so you can get an idea (I checkd his acc. after the game) even if jax is my lane opponent. i dont care about how many minionshe got as long as i am ahead. And if u played in normal game, just let it be. I woulded probably do same as he did depending situation.
Eambo (EUW)
: Hi guys, Someone just mentioned they're now able to log in - can you try again? Does the issue still occur?
> [{quoted}](name=Eambo,realm=EUW,application-id=eZuvYsEr,discussion-id=nPl8lP8R,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2015-07-07T07:12:28.992+0000) > > Hi guys, > > Someone just mentioned they're now able to log in - can you try again? Does the issue still occur? i can log in now :). can i add you as friend in EUW? :)
Eambo (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Exzlu,realm=EUW,application-id=eZuvYsEr,discussion-id=nPl8lP8R,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2015-07-07T06:05:25.680+0000) > > what is ISP? I am from finland and i can log in EUNE but not EUW. I just made EUNE account and tried it out. ISP = Internet Service Provider. Thank you for testing this!
> [{quoted}](name=Eambo,realm=EUW,application-id=eZuvYsEr,discussion-id=nPl8lP8R,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2015-07-07T06:06:30.033+0000) > > ISP = Internet Service Provider. Thank you for testing this! how i can see ISP? and testing wut? XD
Eambo (EUW)
: Can you guys advise what ISP and Country you are from? If you have an EUNE account, does the same issue occur over there?
> [{quoted}](name=Eambo,realm=EUW,application-id=eZuvYsEr,discussion-id=nPl8lP8R,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2015-07-07T05:52:07.692+0000) > > Can you guys advise what ISP and Country you are from? If you have an EUNE account, does the same issue occur over there? what is ISP? I am from finland and i can log in EUNE but not EUW. I just made EUNE account and tried it out.
: I cannot log in to EUW. It says unable to connect to the pvp.net servers.
> [{quoted}](name=JohnnySins95,realm=EUW,application-id=eZuvYsEr,discussion-id=nPl8lP8R,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2015-07-07T05:49:18.459+0000) > > I cannot log in to EUW. It says unable to connect to the pvp.net servers. same here :c
: i am experiencing the same issue
> [{quoted}](name=mohamed ghoul,realm=EUW,application-id=eZuvYsEr,discussion-id=nPl8lP8R,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2015-07-07T05:48:55.546+0000) > > i am experiencing the same issue i tried log in all the time but no results. :/.
Eambo (EUW)
: Hi Exzlu, Are you still encountering this issue? I just tested and could log in okay from here - UK Virgin Media customer here.
> [{quoted}](name=Eambo,realm=EUW,application-id=eZuvYsEr,discussion-id=nPl8lP8R,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-07-07T05:44:32.933+0000) > > Hi Exzlu, > > Are you still encountering this issue? I just tested and could log in okay from here - UK Virgin Media customer here. yes i am experiening this issue still :C. and my network dont have anyproblems either. i tried it out
: Looking for fun.
well if u want play with me silver 4 player just having fun it would be awesome :). so yeah we can have some games together <3.
DireXcon (EUNE)
: How you want me not to FLAME?!
You know, he might followed high elo player examples. + i push lanes as jungler often if people go b and you can even roam if that is but for me, its easy keep calm beacuse i understand that people play bad, do bad decision making etc. it happens and game is only a game. And jungler can push lane. deny enemy xp and farm, giving some damage to turret. Like HuzzyGames, he does push lane very often as jungler + jungler gets gold and xp from empty lane which is good too. Like people goes get farm from junglers jungle, jungle goes lane take farm too. Sometimes i tax from lane creeps or i go farm in lane beacuse people take my jungle farm. So try to understand players and keep calm cuz those things happens. I dont hate more than people who are complaining some people playing. things happens and thats it. there is no reason to go angry from something small like this (i am nowadays main toplane)
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Her ADC (EUW)
: Login Error
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: A word about punishments
I sense mad player who just dont understand that, maybe jungler had good team when he did powerfarming while building something in earlier games. And there is no wrong builds. I've seen many "random" builds but they worked beacuse player knew how to use it + its not jungler work take care of lanes. Some junglers just farm only for midgame which is okay beacuse they have own strategic gameplay they want to do. Maybe they just used to teams that can handle ganks etc. I dont have any problem about jungler who is farming and not ganking early game. its fine imo and its somepeole gameplay. In high elo they not either gankin that much that low elo players does beacuse players can actually HOLD THEIR LANES vs ganks. If your jungle isnt coming, dont overextend and focus farming more than getting kills or pushing lane too far from your turret. and i can hold my lane until jungler comes, and if jungle dont come. It laner own fault he loses lane. So if you are complainign that jungler doesnt gank, look your own playing and think what did you do wrong in lane. Its not only jungle that loses games. its everyone in team. you cant just blame another player for losing beacuse its just stupid and i hate people like those. **BAD PLAYS ARE ALLOWED AND BAD BUILDS TOO** there is no reason to report somebody who plays bad as example. Mistakes, bad plays etc happens and its not jungler fault if lane loses imo, beacuse some junglers need farm and is focused for it more than ganking. Tbh i had one game where i did only 1 gank per lane and my team could keep their lanes after that and we won game cuz we had more money than enemy team had. Farm to win <3 but there was games that i didnt gank but we won beacuse they played SAFE and focused CS more than overextending or fighting. As Ex-main jungler, i can say that and even when i go jungle, i sometimes skip my jungle item upgrade (i take blue,red or purple smite ofc but i leave it that very long time in mach and not building it fully.). Ofc how many BF Swords he bought? if just one or two, its okay beacuse there is many things you can go. But this player might be just bad at building items so it wont suprise me. ANd what champion he played then? Give me one good reason why people wont be allowed play bad or have bad builds? hmm? Beacuse its just a game not your life and bad games happens etc. I've met many players who build badly like you had in ur example but so what? Somepeople has good experience in normals with those builds and then they go ranked try it out beacuse they want to see, how long it will carry them. Like i found many fun jungle builds or champion builds in normals. they worked fine. Mistakes and playing bad + building bad just gives player experience to learn from them But what i understand your complaining is that players are not allowed play bad or build badly. I am right? We are only humans not gods. some people need really understand that somegames are loses, some games are wins. you cannot win everytime or get good team everytime. And beacuse many professionals suggests to go ranked after hitting lv 30, maybe some new lv 30 people goes straight away there. so you need understand my point rigth now: IMprove your own game experience and playing skill and stop blaming others if you played badly and try understand that everygame has their own things. TBH you made me laugh about complaining bad player and i read your answers to other people. you are just mad player who cant stand bad playing or building bad. I think he didnt even done it purposely. and having fun in game is in both ranked and normals. and if some experimental builds works in normal, i have habbit try them in ranked too beacuse if they workded in more than 10 normal games, i am really pleased and try it out. in ranked ofc you need try hard and try play well but if you try force yourself to do it. you might end up failing and lose lane.
Bubi a Cica (EUNE)
: As you said, I build Thornmail as a 4th or 5th item, after Randuin's, Sunfire or Frozen heart, depending on situation. If I buy it, I buy it on Rammus or Amumu (rarely Cho top). And getting it late is exactly the problem. When you get it you already have 130-180 armor (depends on runes, build, champion etc), so getting an extra 100 armor benefits you less. (http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Armor - the mmore armor you have the less it protects you) Meaning you get Thornmail mainly for it's passive, which is not all that great (as I described in an example somehere here).
> [{quoted}](name=Bubi a Cica,realm=EUNE,application-id=ln3nNJrX,discussion-id=ZsXEikE7,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2015-06-19T10:00:42.285+0000) > > As you said, I build Thornmail as a 4th or 5th item, after Randuin's, Sunfire or Frozen heart, depending on situation. If I buy it, I buy it on Rammus or Amumu (rarely Cho top). > > And getting it late is exactly the problem. When you get it you already have 130-180 armor (depends on runes, build, champion etc), so getting an extra 100 armor benefits you less. (http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Armor - the mmore armor you have the less it protects you) > > Meaning you get Thornmail mainly for it's passive, which is not all that great (as I described in an example somehere here). it seems you dont understand point of thornmail.
: So do we get a loss prevented? i dont want to lose my promo due to some tech. issues it wouldnt be fair :/
> [{quoted}](name=Rany SouMeister,realm=EUW,application-id=WRrW6N5X,discussion-id=s2oJrcrP,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2015-06-19T10:32:37.247+0000) > > So do we get a loss prevented? i dont want to lose my promo due to some tech. issues it wouldnt be fair :/ we didnt got loss prevented
: Tank meta
> [{quoted}](name=RainbowSprite,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=5LN0vA4T,comment-id=,timestamp=2015-06-16T23:00:54.596+0000) > > Ok so you know that The Tank metas pretty dominant > > I was trying to see if any bruisers would fall off in this season. > > So far i have come to a few solid picks that no longer work in this meta > > Shyvana ( Top lane) : I really like shyvana but most tanks just stomp her > they have either allot of CC or allot of health to get through and with your early > game poke your not going to get very far. So i think Shyvana&#039;s jungle role is better > > Kennen ( Top lane) : Same goes for kennen, the tank meta is so strong kennen can&#039;t do much > if he&#039;s against a mordekaiser he&#039;s just getting poked the whole time, Rumble stomps on him. > So kennen is the second champ i have found that currently doesn&#039;t work in this meta. > > > Does anyone agree with me? who did you think fell off during this season? > > comment below > > -Rainbow- I disagree about top lane {{champion:102}} . She is pretty strong at toplane beacuse she can be build as tank and do well early game. Only AD item i mostly go is {{item:3071}} and/or {{item:3153}}. Rest is pretty much tank items. I go fire cape at toplane or cinderhulk (if i take smite to top. Ofc her late game is somehow weak but not too weak. Beacuse she has big impact in early game in lane. AD item is situational pick for me in the end as shyvana. I think she is as good at top lane as she always been. Kennen is just situational top laner. he have strong moments against some champions like renekton or any other melee range champions. If you can poke them effetively and keep them away from farm. but i agree he is pretty weak at toplane but i disagree that he dont work in this meta. You just need learn how to play him in current meta and which picks he is strong against. But yeah, i would pick rumble or mordekaiser over him if i would play that much ap toplanes.
Hi im Pete (EUNE)
: Well wont help the tank junglers who would build cinderhulk but the other ones you mentioned (not fiddle) this new item most likely will be quite nice.
> [{quoted}](name=Rumamuna,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=hOJX1nOL,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2015-06-19T09:43:25.246+0000) > > Well wont help the tank junglers who would build cinderhulk but the other ones you mentioned (not fiddle) this new item most likely will be quite nice. but now i talked about AP amumu and AP Malphite as example. Ofcourse tank amumu and tank malphite are far better than ap amumu and ap malphite. And believe me, for fiddle this item is good but yes most of players rushes for zhonya or something else. But diana,ekko and jungle fizz gets best benefits from it and ofc evelynn.
iTaLenTZ (EUW)
: New jungle item Magus only benefits Nidalee and kills every other AP jungler
> [{quoted}](name=iTaLenTZ,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=hOJX1nOL,comment-id=,timestamp=2015-06-19T09:12:33.678+0000) > > Items •Enchantment: Magus ◦Replaced by "Runeglaive" > > •New enchantment : Runeglaive ◦Built from Sheen + Hunter's Machete + 200g > ◦Stats : ◾40 AP > ◾200 Mana > ◾10% CDR > ◾UNIQUE Passive : Spellblade: ◾After using an ability, the next basic attack is converted into magic damage and deals 75% Base Attack Damage (+30% of Ability Power) bonus magic damage on hit in an AoE around the target (1.5 second cooldown). When attacking a monster, this also restores 8% of your missing Mana. > > > I don&#039;t understand this decisionmaking. They have been crying for months about jungle variety and then they kill 2 of the most emblatic junglers: Fiddlesticks and AP Amumu. Also things like Karthus, AP Malphite, Eve, or every other jungler you wished to play that scales with AP. This new item will only benefit Nidalee. Its literally saying we don&#039;t want fiddlesticks to be played in the jungle only Nidalee. She will retain her strong poke and will become even more devastating in closed quarters. For me this change is unaccpetable and completely opposed to jungle variety. Now you are wrong. This new item dont kill {{champion:28}} {{champion:54}} {{champion:32}} {{champion:9}} {{champion:105}} {{champion:20}} {{champion:76}} {{champion:57}} {{champion:245}} , Runeglaive actually helps them. So you think building something like lich bane kills them? no no and once again no. Ap amumu and fiddlesticks benefits from spellbade but most important is cdr there. Its always worth build them to champions, that I listed there but malphite is better as tank than AP malphite beacuse ap malphite is more like using his ult most of times. And he gets benefit from that spellblade effect anyway beacuse after ult basic attack is good. Karthus jungle is fine with that runeglaive too but karthus isnt that good in jungle as amumu,fiddlestick etc. But runeglaive helps him too. "only benefits nidalee" is wrong way to think. Why some AP Malphite players play something like lich bane? Beacuse its passive. Same it will be when runeglaive comes out. May i ask you: Why the hell you would build full ap amumu? Okay he is strong with ap but you can build him as tank and get ap item something like {{item:3151}} /{{item:3025}} ,/{{item:3116}} /{{item:3027}} /{{item:3001}} . it really doesnt matter. Beacuse instead of ap jungle item, you can just build {{item:3751}} and go for {{item:3717}} /{{item:3709}} (cinderhulk) Oh yeah btw: If you think runeglaive isnt good for evelynn, just go AD evelynn. they both are equally as good. Just think that runeclaive is lich bane in jungle. It does help a lot every AP jungle there is. You just see it as bad beacuse you have no experience of runeglaive. Overall its just like lich bane but jungle version of it. I didnt mention diana there beacuse she and ekko are kinda same style champions. Both melee ap champions. Runeglaive compared to magus: You get mana and strong effect. Runeglaive is strong item. Not OP that looking in paper. You lose some ap and cooldown reduction but you get AOE ap damage and you get 200 mana. So its pretty good jungle item. with magus you get only 80ap and 20% cooldown reduction. Jungle job isnt take kills but help your team get them so they get money and get ahead. OFc jungle can take kills but most of cases they just help lane get ahead of enemy lane. So explain us more better **how ** runeglaive kills fiddlestick and ap amumu or anyother jungle than nidalee?
Bubi a Cica (EUNE)
: Thornmail upgrade suggestion
> [{quoted}](name=Bubi a Cica,realm=EUNE,application-id=ln3nNJrX,discussion-id=ZsXEikE7,comment-id=,timestamp=2015-06-19T08:53:10.034+0000) > > Hello! > > **Intro:** > I would like to speak about Thornmail {{item:3075}} for a moment. While I don&#039;t think the current version of the Thornmail is useless, I do feel it&#039;s a bit underpar when comparing to other items like Randuin&#039;s Omen {{item:3143}} or Frozen Heart {{item:3110}}. Why? Cause these other items have a better special benefit (ability) and provide roughly the same armor as Thornmail. Their prices accurately reflect this. > > **Problem** > Now, when in a game, against a normal team you will probably never take Thornmail, and that&#039;s fine. But even against a full AD team the benefits of the other 2 items arguably hinder the abilities of enemy ADs better than Thornmail. So even when against the team it was meant against, most people (including me) will get Randuin or Frozen Heart first and only consider Thornmail after. > > **Reason** > Thornmail in itself offers survivability only in the form of Armor, where as Randuin gives you a significant amount of HP, a nice a passive and a nice active. Same with Frozen heart, not only armor, but mana sustain and CDR. Both debuff the enemy team, while Thornmail is only for you. > Thornmail&#039;s damage feedback sadly becomes insignificant because of Magic Resist, and cause the people you are targeting, probably have huge amount of lifesteal from: {{item:3072}} or {{item:3153}} or {{item:3074}} . They basically heal more, than you damage them, cause of the MR and Lifesteal together. So all you are doing is not letting enemy ADs heal up on you. > > **Suggestion** > Give Thornmail an active or a bonus passive (for maybe even an increased cost). > > Example active: > **Bleed out:** UNIQUE, For 5 seconds any enemy Champion that hits you with a basic attack recieves a grevious wound for 3 seconds. Cooldown: 120 secs > > Example passive: > ** Blood rights:** UNIQUE, Enemy champions cannot lifesteal from you. > > Well that&#039;s about it, I hope someone actually considers it. Thornmail gives 30% damage back before armor will be reduced so its good. It dont need buff even if they build either blade of ruined king or hydra. They still cant heal its full damage what they get. But like fiora, its true that some champs can build both of those or enough life steal to not get hurt at all from thornmail but here comes decision making. Do you want reduce your damage to get life steal and not to die to thornmail or do you build only one LS item and get more critical strike/AA/Armor pen. As long as enemy ad carries dont have 30% life steal, thornmail is pretty useful and yes, thornmail never is first item for reason. thornmail is always my 3rd or 4th item in build beacuse thornmail is morelike team fight tank item than 1v1 item. And it really depends enemy team ad champions. If you build Thornmail as first item then you are either too afraid of AD or its useful moments disappears or just bad at build order. Comparing thornmail to omen and frozen heart is kinda meh. Beacuse Omen and frozen hearts are made for reason. They give you early sustain that thornmail dont give. Thornmail is those "late game" items if situation needs it. So stop whining that thornmail is "not so good than omen and frozen heart" and those champions that dont have mana/any resource or those tanks (shen as example) which uses energy/other resource than mana. Do you build for them frozen heart? (answer is NO). Thornmail is for those champions pretty good pick with omen and fire cape (fire cape is in same situation as thornmail when you think about it. you get hp,armor and aoe damage passive yes but firecape passive can be countered with life steal like thornmail passive but yes fire cape gives you survivability but lose in armor to thornmail). Thornmail is as good as it is right now. There is no need for buff beacuse even if you cant use its full potential yet, you find way to use it later. Sometimes thornmail is just good to pick up instead of omen as item. its just about situation you go in. I'm not pro player myself and i might not always know, what i'm talking about but many pro players uses thornmail as situational item. Yes its bad in some situations if enemies has more ap than ad or they have high life steal but if they have only blade of the ruined king or only hydra in their build. They cannot fully heal thornmail damage. Tanks can counter thornmail by building MR (i think so beacuse thornmail does magic damage) but thornmail is used to counter carries if they focus tanks to take enough damage, rest of team kill them. Which champions do you build thornmail? beacuse its really important to think which champions benefits best from thornmail.
korniuxsas (EUNE)
: Rek'sai
> [{quoted}](name=korniuxsas,realm=EUNE,application-id=ln3nNJrX,discussion-id=GhVNn6co,comment-id=,timestamp=2015-06-19T08:54:23.001+0000) > > Hello,I want to suggest a reksai skin. > Soo, if you make rek&#039;sai skin called shark rek&#039;sai or soomething like that, and in the game you take an Iron potion to make you bigger and in the chat would be called Great white Rek&#039;sai or something. > ir would be great awesome skin tho ^^ well theorically rek'sai is already land shark
Wîcked G (EUNE)
: WTF IS WRONG WITH TOU COMMUNITY!
> [{quoted}](name=Khalifa Jr,realm=EUNE,application-id=eZuvYsEr,discussion-id=hJwKcKKt,comment-id=,timestamp=2015-06-18T23:04:00.318+0000) > > YOUR SERVERS FCKIN CRASHED I DIDNT LOGIN IN THE GAME AND NOW I HAVE TO WAIT 5 GAMES IN LOW FCKIN PRIORITY 20 MINUTES?! WE CANT EVEN PLAY A FCKIN GAME NOW WITH ALL YOUR BULLSHIT RULES AND EVERYTHING!! DAY BY DAY FCKIN THE GAME MORE AND MORE! I AM OUT! they got already in their knowledge about this dc issue
Maluber (EUW)
: Pool Party Points Update
how you track that? You cant see that anywhere IMO.
KuroK4ge (EUW)
: Login impossible
i got that problem too
: disconnected from game followed by inability to login
> [{quoted}](name=Rany SouMeister,realm=EUW,application-id=WRrW6N5X,discussion-id=s2oJrcrP,comment-id=,timestamp=2015-06-18T22:41:43.162+0000) > > so I just got dc&#039;ed (even though my internet and everything else were working just fine) and when i try to reconnect my account doesn&#039;t login and it gives me a &quot;cant connect to Pvp server&quot; error.. Other accounts go to the login queue while mine doesnt! > And in other servers it works just fine,,, > What to do? you are not alone with this problem. I got dced from game. Waited 6mins, then tried go in and i couldnt even connect to servers so i decided close my client. then i tried log in/reconnect to game. Didnt work. closed client again now i get log in error.
: Cant Login
I got same problem.
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