: i have definitive proof that riot manipulates games if you arent meant to win / have too many wins
Not sure if we should lock you up because you went crazy or we should give you an Oscar for best comedy.
daNyanta (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=FNC WolfClaws,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=qGNpyJGW,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-10-15T16:13:17.270+0000) > > I don't agree whatsoever. Basically every team member can die way more often than the rest of the team and still be useful. > Think about supports sacrificing themselves so the carries can do damage, tanks in that same matter or assassins diving to the backline to kill 2 enemies and still die. > Besides that, people who play Singed or Suicide-Sion will then only be matched with intentional feeders. > > Edit: Even not dying a lot might be a bad thing. This could mean you never go for a play and you don't know what to do and just wait for your team to do the hard work. So... from all of this... Are you really saying that dying a lot is better than not dying? Making plays has nothing to do with dying. Maybe is me but I count my every death as "I fcked up" or "I got doved by 4 man gank out of nowewhere and couln't do much". That's why I hate this game. People think that they make (or try to make plays) and die and that's ok. When I was being matched with golds (up to G3) in my short clibing this season it felt like going back to bronze. S5-S4 was the most fun games IMO, people didn't look for excuses.
I'm not saying that dying a lot is better per definition. Sometimes however, you will just have to die for the sake of a teamfight. For instance, if you play a 6k health Sion, it's way better that you die for your team, soaking up all damage and ults while your carry is unharmed and gets to shred through the team. Something resulting in a 1 for 5 trade can be a very useful death. Trying to force a game to a 0-death perfect utopia is simply impossible and IMO you do not understand how the game works if that is what you're looking for.
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I don't agree whatsoever. Basically every team member can die way more often than the rest of the team and still be useful. Think about supports sacrificing themselves so the carries can do damage, tanks in that same matter or assassins diving to the backline to kill 2 enemies and still die. Besides that, people who play Singed or Suicide-Sion will then only be matched with intentional feeders. Edit: Even not dying a lot might be a bad thing. This could mean you never go for a play and you don't know what to do and just wait for your team to do the hard work.
Arcade Lulu (EUNE)
: Gotta sell the championship skin
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Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
I am not basing my entire point on the fact that Rioters don't have the same experience. I'm trying to say that there needs to be done a lot more on player behaviour than is the case now. They are not normal players. They have worked on the game and can not experience the game as we do since they know what's going on behind it. Of course, they might have as much time put into it but doesn't mean they have the same experience as we do. Once again you're assuming things I never mentioned which makes this discussion a real pain. I never mentioned that a real gamer is someone who has 24/7 to play the game. There's a important difference between the gamers playing the game and the employees playing the game. For example, you own a boat and you're in love with it. You got it from your parents and have had it all your life. It's your boat, you take care of it and adore it. Your friends however, who do not have a special bond with this boat, might think it's not that great at all and needs quite some improvement. You'll think very differently than they do because you worked on that boat and are proud of it. Same counts for Rito employees. They love the game because they put so much work on it and sometimes that makes it really hard to spot the flaws. Also, I never mentioned Riot does nothing on player behaviour and you really need to stop twisting my points to make your arguments stronger. Riot is doing a lot on player behaviour, I know. They really do try, but it's just not as effective as they, and probably a lot of players with me, would like it to be.
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
How do I not get that? Of course Rioters do play the game. But there is no way that they experience the game in a way we do. They can't invest as many hours in it because they have to work on it and they play the game with an eye on improvement more than just having fun. I don't know why you added that last sentence since it's once again something I never mentioned.
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
I get that you're not attacking me, but you're putting things in my mouth I've never even mentioned. I have never ever mentioned that Rioters do not play and therefor I am not unwilling to acknowledge that. Rioters have more to do than to just play the game and they look at it from a different perspective than we, the players, do.
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
I've been giving my opinion and do not feel like defending it even more if your goal is to go against everything I mention. I liked the discussion up and til this part but imo your arguments are just as subjective as mine. Riot doesn't just need people that studied neuroscience or psychology, they also need people that know the in-game experience and have ideas how it can be improved. I never tried to say that I'm the chosen one to be able to actually improve the behaviour, I'm just willing to help them out since, even though they try their best, they are obviously struggling. The last changes haven't improved my personal experience in the game at all. If anything, it's getting worse.
Aladoron (EUNE)
: I tell you! Use the friggin mute button and stop whining like a baby.... Man, get your shit together, random guy from hundreds of kilometers away, who dont know you hurt your little baby soul by words. What a world we live in!? Rito already fixed the "flamer problem" USE THE MUTE BUTTON, and stop whining.... My god, this community is full of babies..... PS.: AFKers and intentional feeders should be banned, bc they really ruin a game....
ROFL. First you try to destroy my entire point and then your PS basically tells me you agree with me. Toxic doesn't just mean flamers, it includes the AFKers and int. feeders.
yoricksIV (EUW)
: few day a ago i had a game that people was saying that im toxic...(in aram) Player A was feeding playing volibear(0/5/0 at 8min+),dive into enemy tower and die... after the 5th time he die.... i just say "hey voli, pls stop dive into tower and die, u should wait for the team" (did i said anythings wrong?) he just say "this is aram , who cares about dying?just have fun!" until the 10th time he die....all my team also telling him to stop dying and stop feeding the enemy team by just dive into tower and die for nothings.... all i said is "dude, i agree with my other team mate , maybe you should really stop dive tower for no reason and play as a team" and the volibear said that im really toxic and curse me die from cancer.... after that i just mute the player and report him at the end of the game... CAN SOME ONE TELL ME !!!!PLS TELL ME THAT IM TOXIC OR NOT!!!!!
If you have truly described what has happened during that game, than I personally do not consider you as toxic.
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
Yes, I am very sure my friends get reported and even I sometimes. You get that notification on your screen but you can get that 3 times a week without any consequences. The automatic system isn't precise and strict enough imo. Reaching diamond doesn't equal putting a lot of time in the game. If you played a lot of MOBAs it isn't that hard to reach diamond+ after a few months of playing instead of the years it takes for others. You have been disproving a statement I never made, for I have never said that Riot employees weren't Diamond+. Of course, it's true that every single online game has problems with toxicity. Once again, you haven't read my text correctly since I never said that LoL is the only game that suffers from this problem. Games such as DOTA, CS:GO and Overwatch have the same problem, but LoL is by far the worst of them all. That's something that really disappoints me. I like that you have your own opinion and I appreciate that you try to have me explain my thoughts, but once again I'd like to tell you that I'm not here to tell Riot they are doing a bad job. I'm here since I'm willing to help them out.
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
A mayor improvement on the way to stopping this, or at least massively reducing this problem, would be to both increase the duration and speed in which a penalty is given. I have some very very toxic friends out there and they can say the strangest things without even getting a chat restriction for it. Also, I really think it's time for the Tribunal to make its return. It has been down for over 2 years now. Personally I always got the feeling that I was truly helping to improve the League of Legends community and I'm sad to see that it hasn't returned as of yet and a afraid it will never return at all. I never said I don't think there are Diamond+ Riot employees. What I'm trying to say is that a Riot employee doesn't have as much hours put into actually playing the game as we, the players, do. I know Riot is really one of the first companies that so actively listens to their community, but on the other hand, I can not name any single other game that has so much flamers and trolls in it. Like I said, I'm not here to cry about Rito doing a bad job. I really, truly, want to help them out because I think they are struggling with finding a way to tackle this problem and the community will gladly help them out.
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TsukiSora (EUW)
: Are you a support, I would love to duo with a support as I would also like gold before the end of the season :)
I do play a lot of support. Could in fact say it's my main role atm {{champion:12}} {{champion:53}} {{champion:201}} {{champion:40}} {{champion:25}} {{champion:111}} {{champion:37}} {{champion:16}} {{champion:223}} {{champion:412}}
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