: > I accepted an invite Why do you do that if you already know they are massive jerks? I mean, of course their behavior is still their fault, but it's kind of your own fault that you intentionally encounter those players again. What did you expect? And why didn't you just leave? You could have ended their harassment at any moment by simply walking away. Don't get me wrong, they are still jerks, that part is of course not your fault. But if this behavior annoys you (which is 100% understandable), you need to protect yourself and not intentionally walk into a trap. > Now I heard that the punishments doesn't always give a instant feedback That's correct. > This is a thing you have to put some work into to prevent aswell. How? If there would be a legal method to actually prevent smurfing, Riot would have done it years ago...and all the other games who struggle with this problem too. But they didn't, because there isn't. It's not that simple, I'm afraid. If you want to block a specific player, you have to identify a specific player. And you have to do it in a way that both technology and the law allow you to do. And especially the latter is not possible, mostly due to privacy laws. It's always easy to say "Riot has to improve this, this is not good enough". The problem is that it's not that easy, it's not like Riot isn't trying. There just is no real solution for the problem, only tiny improvements. If you want to fix the behavior problem in League, you have to fix the behavior problem on the internet. And in order to do that, you need to change culture, society, and laws. Riot obviously can't do that on their own.
I do not know how to quote and I am not sure if you edited or if it just didn't show up, but I didn't see the first part. This behaviour doesn't really annoy me personally, I don't get hurt by words from people that doesn't know what they are talking about anyway. I could just have walked away, but I did feel like I had to see what they wanted, since they tried to drag both me and my friend into this. So to avoid any further harassment against my friend, if by any chance they do get a hold of him, why not just accept and let them say what they gotta say and be done with it. However, I did feel like I had to make a post about it. And honestly, even though I may not get hurt by their made up facts, others might be. And I have not ever in all my time playing League since S1, seen this kind of extreme behaviour, and this is why I also reported this in a ticket.
: Go to player support with it.
: > I accepted an invite Why do you do that if you already know they are massive jerks? I mean, of course their behavior is still their fault, but it's kind of your own fault that you intentionally encounter those players again. What did you expect? And why didn't you just leave? You could have ended their harassment at any moment by simply walking away. Don't get me wrong, they are still jerks, that part is of course not your fault. But if this behavior annoys you (which is 100% understandable), you need to protect yourself and not intentionally walk into a trap. > Now I heard that the punishments doesn't always give a instant feedback That's correct. > This is a thing you have to put some work into to prevent aswell. How? If there would be a legal method to actually prevent smurfing, Riot would have done it years ago...and all the other games who struggle with this problem too. But they didn't, because there isn't. It's not that simple, I'm afraid. If you want to block a specific player, you have to identify a specific player. And you have to do it in a way that both technology and the law allow you to do. And especially the latter is not possible, mostly due to privacy laws. It's always easy to say "Riot has to improve this, this is not good enough". The problem is that it's not that easy, it's not like Riot isn't trying. There just is no real solution for the problem, only tiny improvements. If you want to fix the behavior problem in League, you have to fix the behavior problem on the internet. And in order to do that, you need to change culture, society, and laws. Riot obviously can't do that on their own.
Well, atleast we try. Thank you for taking the time to read and reply.
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Fake0 (EUW)
: Wow....
First of all, thanks for all the answers! :) And second, no its not fake, its all copy pasted with changed names to champ instead of summoner name because I wasn't sure if you're allowed to mention summoner names. I also deleted a link, club tags, and "**** left the lobby" and added spaces to make it easier to read. Besides that its all just a copy paste. :)
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: Way to turn of Game invites?
We really need an option to stop game invites, atleast from people who is NOT on our friendslist. I'm getting really sick of this crap aswell. *sigh* Rito Pls...
: Did you break the summoners code? **Yes**. End of discussion. Just because someone abuses you doesn't give you a right to abuse them back. Just shut up and report, it's what it's there for.
> [{quoted}](name=Wildcardhs,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=zkBApEh9,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2015-07-09T17:24:53.588+0000) > > Did you break the summoners code? **Yes**. > > End of discussion. > > Just because someone abuses you doesn't give you a right to abuse them back. Just shut up and report, it's what it's there for. This, I can tell you, and I think that if you actually think about it, you will agree. It is easy to stand beside a fight and say "Stop fighting", but when you're in it, and with the adrenaline, it is not that easy. It is easy for someone neutral who doesn't have any part in it, to just shut up or talk like you did right here, but when you are the victim, it is not that easy, and especially not when you feel the need to defend yourself. This is not end of discussion, because I asked for peoples opinion and not a discussion about it. I may have broken the summoners code, but that actually does not matter here at all, since I asked for thoughts and opinions. I also said, and I can quote: > [{quoted}](name=the Stoned Clown,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=zkBApEh9,comment-id=,timestamp=2015-07-09T14:54:03.561+0000) > > (Except for forgetting that there is a mute button) > (Except for mute **_and ignore it_**)
ItsMaz (EUW)
: You were banned because you decided to act like a child and throw a fit right back at the Trundle, sinking to his level, instead of simply muting him and moving on with your life.
> [{quoted}](name=ItsMaz,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=zkBApEh9,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2015-07-09T17:49:59.728+0000) > > You were banned because you decided to act like a child and throw a fit right back at the Trundle, sinking to his level, instead of simply muting him and moving on with your life. > [{quoted}](name=the Stoned Clown,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=zkBApEh9,comment-id=,timestamp=2015-07-09T14:54:03.561+0000) > > What are your thoughts about this? > Do you believe that I did anything wrong?(_**Except for forgetting that there is a mute button**_) > Do you have any thoughts on what I could have done differently?(_**Except for mute and ignore it**_) > Have this ever happend to anyone else? *Edit*: I know that I could have acted another way, and I am not proud over every single thing I do. We are humans, we make mistakes. However, when my behaviour have improved A LOT, and I have played through all of these chat blocks(Which is an unnessecary and silly amount of games), and just the second I get rid of it, I get to play 5 games, without saying a word that is rude or offensive, I play one more game and I get this trundle flaming me like a flamethrower, without a legit reason really, and I actually did not reply that much if we compare to his trolling and spamming the chat every single time he fails one thing, and blames it on me, I think that this was really rude by Riot, since my behaviour have improved a lot. I barley talk in games anymore at all, because I get chat blocked every single time I play no matter if I talk or not. I been reported for nothing, I have accepted that, and played through chat blocks that I was not supossed to have, because appearently when you are a bad player, you are rude and offensive. This however, must, and I am pretty sure of it,(No source or proof that it is because of this, but I really havn't been banned or chat blocked a single time since I started in S1 and if I really was a toxic person, wouldn't I have recieved bans and chat blocks before the tribunal, and even more when the tribunal was invented, and not now, when it is down for "updates"?) be because of the Tribunal being down for "updates", and the new system they use while it is offline is flawed. I have no idea what is going on, but the thread is here because I wanted peoples thoughts and opinions. (Y) Maybe you all will help me improve even more, who knows. Maybe in 13 days, I log on, play one game and get reported for offensive language when I did not say a single word in the whole game, and get banned for 30 days? However, they should fix their system, and work more in it, before they lose their customers. I really hate being flamed, and when I get flamed, I usually reply because I have a hard time ignoring it. If I am called a retard, my feelings are hurt, because I am not a retard just because I failed a skillshot. These kind of people acting like this, shouldn't be allowed to play, but me, who defended myself, should. Why? Well, since he can flame me like a flamethrower, he shouldn't even read my messages, and if he does, well, does he even care? No he doesn't, he doesn't care for shit what I say, he just gonna report me because it is fun for him to report others. Not gonna matter what I say or what I do, if I act nicley towards him, he is just gonna keep flaming and be rude, and report me anyway and what if I ignore him? Well, then I get reported, why? Well, because trundle thought I was bad, and nothing will change his mind, no matter what I do, he will still say I am a retard and sucks and noob, and well, so on.
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
Yes, I do know that it does not justify my behaviour, however, he brought that part of me forth, and he provoked me to it. I am a generally shy and nice person, and I am -REALLY- nice and friendly to people who is nice and friendly towards me. However, if they are rude, ofcourse, like probably everyone, I will be rude towards them aswell. Don't get me wrong, I hate flaming and rude people more than anything, but what I've learned from life so far, is that being nice doesn't get you anywhere but to pain and suffer because of rude people around the world. What I see, is that if the system does not work, what if they get treated the way they treat others, wouldn't that work? My parents raised me to treat people the same way they treat me, though ofcourse, I've realised these later years that it doesn't work that way at all, because if you are nice towards people, they are rude back because they see you as weak.(This, I am not refering to League of Legends thought, but an incident that happend just a few days ago where a friend of mine stole from me, something that was on the table, when both me and my girlfriend was in the apartment.(Alittle off-topic, but just to explain the point.)
huckasex (EUW)
: sure, you say that NOW you wanted him to live up to the threat so you can punch him
I did not post this to get rude replies like yours. I wanted him to live up to what he is saying, because it is immature to threat over the internet, and while I have been on the internet for over 10 years, I've learn that nobody ever shows up either way. I admit that I have never in my whole life been in a fight or punched someone, and I have not planed to start. If he wants to beat me up because I failed an E, well, be my guest. You can say and believe whatever you want, but I repeat, I did not post this to get rude replies. If you're going to be rude, go ingame and flame like Trundle. ;) (JK tho, don't do this you will probably get banned. (Y))
huckasex (EUW)
: so you threatened him to punch him cause otherwise you wouldntwant to meet
No, I did not mention anything about punching or anything like it. However, he did, and I replied to him with a "Sure, where do we meet?" as in "I am not scared of you, if you going to threat me, you may aswell live up to your word, or grow up."
Emabi (EUW)
: They don't report such people 'cause they are usually in a premade. Been there, seen it. But thank you for explaining better things to me.
^this. So dusgustingly true. Premade flamers are the worst there is, 'cause nobody backs up the flamed but instead report the flamed because three people is talking in all saying the flamed is flaming and in the end the flamed gets the report and punish instead of the disgusting premade flamers.
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
I did not threat HIM, HE threat ME. I just replied to his threat, and said sure, where do we meet.
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HCgamer13 (EUW)
: Sorry guys but this Thread sucks so mutch! U say all : watch my pro sona Plays pls watch it so like a Pro. Damm its like Bronze! I watch now all realy all videos and realy maybe 100 videos and 1-2 good plays. U have luck that i dont recording my Sona games it would burst u all that u cry like a baby! U all think, that your over pro because u hit with ulti 2-3 People ..
*Suck, Much, You, Please, Really, You are lucky, Record, You'RE** Bring it, post your Sona plays. Or you know, you could stop braging without proof. ;)

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