: because of people like you we cant have fun
Seconded{{sticker:katarina-love}}
: > My choice here is to not lose my lane even though I am behind, which other choice should I test? Losing my lane? thats the point since you have already pre-determined what your choices are in a losing lane.. hence your decision making is repetitive. since your losing anyway, its great idea to explore new options anyway, ill give you example. A toplaner has a possible losing bot and the toplaner himself isnt doing so great... so he decides to TP bot and gain double kill and take bot tower inexchange for his top outer. This trade could possibly bring back his botlane into the game, and also since its 1 for 1 tower trade, it evens out, furthermore if he gains kills he possibly is now ahead of the other toplaner. if he keeps being creative like that than he can carry. Now this is just a example. However there are multiple options in any given game, but if you create a linear choices than that is your destiny that will keep repeating. and **no matter type of team you get, your choices are all that you are left with in each game as they define, who you really are as a player.** > I am asking whether the scenario changes when the circumstances change (in this case I rise to a better rank). This is me actively seeking change, how is that insanity by repeating the same thing and expecting different results? I meant the choices, you are making ingame are the same hence the results will be the same. Forexample imagine yourself as that toplaner.. would you TP bot to attempt to go for a risky tower trade and a possible snowball for your team and yourself ? or would u rather hug your tower, because your **Losing** your lane.. to me personally it sounds like your just having 0 impact on your own games and your willing to let others carry or not carry you. **inevitably if you dont do anything, than ofcourse the Things will run their course.** than a better option would be to learn how to make better decisions, that could potentially turn around your losses.. instead of delaying a inevitable loss. > So I should adapt from being behind in lane to snowballing out of control and 1v9 the game to victory, when my skill level is just about the same as every other guy in the game? Sounds legit. Besides, I never talked about hard carrying, I talked about my team not getting stomped in their respective lanes when I can stop that from happening in mine. ill give you a set of questions, so you can estimate your own skill level. 1- how hard do you punish mistakes that your opponents make, **out of position** etc summoner down, lack of mana or bad b's or no flash etc ? 2- how often do you take free objectives, like Tower, Drakes , Barons, Do you watch if your enemies make bad rotations and take them ? do you watch their backs ? do you watch if their out of position to contest ? 3- When 1 Enemy is feeding on enemy team, how much advantage do you take out of it ? do you force him to AFK and turn game into 4v5, are you capable of forcing a player out of the game ? 4- when single enemy is performing poorely, How far do you punish that player .. lets say only enemy toplaner is bad ? how often do you spot players that you could snowball from that are having bad game. > So I should adapt from being behind in lane to snowballing out of control and 1v9 the game to victory, when my skill level is just about the same as every other guy in the game? Sounds legit exactly, even if your presented opportunity, if your unable to spot them or act on them, than its like they never existed. your focus is on the fact that your weaker than your enemy, thats likely because hes spotting and appreciating to punish your mistakes and not vice versa. you being weaker than him is just 1 Moment in time and based on a certain choice, but if the enemy makes 1 Mistake, how hard are you able to punish them ? In any level even Challenger, players make mistakes or tilt.. to assume that you cant return is basically, poor decision making, and knowing how to return is good decision making. are you willing to lose in new ways ? and see improvements in the ways you lose ? unless you do something new than you wont learn from your losses. its really your choice, go for roams or hard push your lane if he roams, invade enemy jungle or rotate to your stronger lanes etc, do Tp's, Go for barons, push your limits and find out what works in a losing game. and thats how you learn to carry.. it has **NOTHING** to do with mechanics. A lot of the game is about Mentality, you cant carry with a Losing mentality. mechanics is only a small part of the game. you can either outgrow your elo in terms of efficiency and decision making, or focus on other things. its what you appreciate and focus on that defines on who you are as player, and what you will likely develop into. and its all your choice and it will remain same no matter how high or how low you go.
even though you sound like an old hermit living on a mountain top, I see your point now. You are right, I rarely take chances to test my limits, assuming I will lose if I do. Never occured to me it could be turned around because of my skill. Would be nice if I could start doing that and climb, thanks
ISIRileyI (EUW)
: Zoe OR Zed ?!
don't Zed. Hate that guy and the people who bring him to my games. People at Riot who implemented him and are not removing him, as well as the players that play him. {{sticker:sg-shisa}}
: Yeah i don't want all unlocked at once or something. I just want some useful champs from those capsules. Not 450 Champs where i still have to pay 270 to unlock them. This is just scam. People complaining about EA should look at this trash.
you will get more expensive champions, dw about it. For now you should just focus on getting ti know the game, so you can play ranked some pointer after level 30. By that time you should be able to get some of the champions you want. P.s. about the 450 for 270 champions, you save 20% on the champion when you get a shard. So let's say you get a 6300 BE champ shard it costs you 5040 to unlock. It will all be good in time :)
: Getting champs as new player
it takes time to get champions. I started a little over a year ago and without paying for any champions I have maybe around half if that. Just the way game is made.
: it never changes and there is no elo-heaven. you gotta focus on yourself. league is a game of choices and in your example that you provided, you keep repeating the same choices and getting the same results. you have to learn to adapt and test new choices to the same scenario's untill you find the ''Sweet spot'' or golden ratio. **definition of insanity is to repeat the same thing and expect different results** Roam or TP to bot, or gain vision control over rivers, any number of different approaches to the same problem is preferable until you learn, which one works best in comparison. **you can blame your team, however what you have explained is that you are also not willing to adapt to how bad they are.** yes a better team would be useful, however you would not be considered a better teammate by the rest of your team, as you are unable to adapt. **a good team mate knows how to adapt and work with different ''types'' of scenario's** and teams and thats the type of experience needed to hard carry.
{{sticker:sg-lux-2}} > league is a game of choices and you keep repeating the same choices and getting the same results. you have to learn to adapt and test new choices to the same scenario's untill you find the ''Sweet spot'' or golden ratio. You are not making sense to me right now. I am adressing a scenario in which I am at a disadvantage early in lane, either by lacking the skills of my champion or by misplaying early, but still managing to not lose my lane singlehandedly and even sometimes winning it, while my team is losing the two other lanes, a scenario which I feel happens more often than not. My choice here is to not lose my lane even though I am behind, which other choice should I test? Losing my lane? > definition of insanity is to repeat the same thing and expect different results. I am asking whether the scenario changes when the circumstances change (in this case I rise to a better rank). This is me actively seeking change, how is that insanity by repeating the same thing and expecting different results? > you can blame your team, however what you have explained is that you are also not willing to adapt to how bad they are. When I am behind in lane, just how do I adapt to every other lane losing, since I am at a disadvantage, either by my skills on the specific champion or by my enemy straight up being stronger? Other than not losing my lane, making him snowball even harder? > yes a better team would be useful, however you would not be a better teammate in that case as you are unable to adapt. How is going from a bad starting point in lane to not losing lane unable to adapt? > a good team mate knows how to adapt and work with different ''types'' of scenario's and teams and thats the type of experience needed to hard carry. So I should adapt from being behind in lane to snowballing out of control and 1v9 the game to victory, when my skill level is just about the same as every other guy in the game? Sounds legit. Besides, I never talked about hard carrying, I talked about my team not getting stomped in their respective lanes when I can stop that from happening in mine.
Hydnoras (EUW)
: Well in diamond people tend to listen to your pings but there are times when they don't. Usually when they dont listen, they don't still blame you for it because you did ping it (if you pinged early enough). People in high dia also don't tend to blame you for not pinging because it's also their fault for not watching the map. You should still ping though. Blaming does happen rarely though and it usually happens if your lane opponent roams bot a lot and you never do anything about it or get some benefit elsewhere. In silver, you should be able to dominate enough to force the enemy to stay in lane. If they refuse to stay in lane, ward their usual route to your side lanes and then keep pushing and just ping your allies when the enemy is seen on the ward. Push the tower down and then roam to take side lane turrets. If your side lanes die to the roams, that isn't your fault but you must always ensure you did the best you could to avoid it. Also, if you are ahead, then you can follow the enemy. Keep in mind that having a cs lead is far more impressive than having a kill lead. Kill lead will lead to shut downs which will grant more gold to the enemies and they will catch up faster, but if you just have a lead in farm, you will not give any more gold to the enemy team if you die so they can't catch up as fast even if they kill you.
ah, good to know I only havce to climb 3,5 leagues xD Thanks for the tips, one thing you forget though: > In silver, you should be able to dominate enough to force the enemy to stay in lane On average, I am on the same level as my opponent, I am not smurfing.. So my ability to keep the guy in lane is roughly equal to his ability to make opportunities to not stay in lane. A lot of you high elo guys tend to forget people in low elo are equally bad :P
Rioter Comments
: Any that get a lot of S's could premade with me and get me a box
An easier way might be to play some support. I got a lot of chests by playing support and doing my best to heal/shield/cc/whatever when a kill was emminent so I got a lot of assists. Just play back and die as little as possible with as many assists as possible and you get that S easily. Another trick is to play "unusual" champions in different roles. E.g. Malphite support. He is not as good as other supports in general, but if played right he can initiate, peel, deal damage and slow AS of the enemy making you win your lane and later team fights for a lot of assists and kill participation. This way you are measured against the small pool of players playing him support as opposed to the larger pool of players playing him top, which should make the S easier to get. This being said, don't do stupid shit like Nasus support or stuff like that that simply does not work unless your whole team is just leagues above the enemy, which should not be the case in a normally matchmade game.
Furthren (EUW)
: New Player- Seeking advice on what I should do in a situation Like this one (TOXIC PLAYERS)
If you are reported for nothing it is ignored by the system, so don't worry. But no matter what, if people are jerks, report them, any little thing so you can tick multiple boxes. They get a report flag for being jerks and you suffer nothing in that regard. And yeah, mute them and play your best, don't walk on glass or anything. When you are not toxic and just play to win, nothing they can do to you
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sahber14 (EUNE)
: Apparently Zoe is even more broken
Make a bug report so it can be fixed if it is a thing :)
Bíbs (EUW)
: How do I beat a lategame Yasuo?
When he ults he is stuck for a second or so. Use this time to do as much damage as possible to hopefully burst him down. Though you will probably need team members to help you. Also as stated, CC is good
Fealthas (EUNE)
: Permabanned for nonsense reports from premade groups...
Personally I agree game 1 is just venting, though it may have created a negative atmophere in the game, hence the ground for report going through. Now game 2 - you call someone noob, you say you don't have a team, and you call someone bronze as an insult - that is insult on insult, sorry buddy Game 3 - You call out for reports in chat, that is toxic behaviour. And calling a trollpick is worse than calling something not viable and is not the same. These games in and of themselves should probably not warrant a permaban in and of themselves, I agree. But after the 14 day ban it is your last chance and you wasted it - better luck on your next account mate
jOhNyP (EUNE)
: 14 days ban for this! lol
you are commenting negatively on someone elses play instead of asking him politely to do something else. You blame Xin and Riven for losing. Also wish for Xin to get banned. Very unsportsmanlike = bannable offence. Besides, you had no racial or homophobic slurs or anything of that nature, which means you have been hit by chat restrictions before this, showing you are a genuinely toxic guy. Please improve your attitude so I won't have to read your chat in my game {{sticker:sg-soraka}}
Rioter Comments
: the best way to get good at jayce is just remembering this simple thing if you miss your q, you're probably now behind.
: smash your keyboard,it usually works for jayce players
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Hydnoras (EUW)
: >Also is W in Cannon Stance like a AA reset, so I can get 4 attacks off at max A? Yes, it is an aa reset. If you are ahead, you should start with hammer form because then you can burst the opponent and follow up with range mode so the enemy can't escape. Note that you need to wait a bit after going to hammer form before you can engage because your r is still on cd.
ah, nice! But starting with hammer stance - how do I manage my E? It knocks them away giving them more distance to run away, unless I can knock them into tower or something. Otherwise it makes sense to start hammer sometimes, thanks
Rioter Comments
: bro even if it deal 2 k dmg you can dodge it!!
dodgeable or not, why is the base damage more than double what it should be when you buy items?
GPet (EUW)
: Be careful to not mistake it with the damage that has already been dealt by it. New runes like to have a 'dmg dealt this game' statistic.
I hover my cursor over it and it shows the numbers I stated. I would never write 2347 damage as 257+157 :)
: How did you arrive at 235+135? Is it written somewhere or did you just math it out?
it is written in the box next to my champion portrait in game. Don't know how to upload a screen shot to this page.
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EldainSS (EUW)
: Why new skin for a pile of shit like VI ??.
Varus W is also a passive, useless if you don't land your other abilities.
Krubaver (EUW)
: what champ should I play to solo carry out of silver?
Seems like you should just go Braum top with botrk, seems to work fine
Rioter Comments
: Im plat 1 with D5 mmr tho.
Yeah, but if a high Plat player is defeated by a single 450 gold item, how much better is that item gonna be vs a Silver player?!? Imagine the opportunities!
Kian987 (EUW)
: Shen and Skarner
I am not a Shen player, but have played against him a few times and have seen him in videos and streams. Some of your conclusions about him I fail to se, could you illuminate me? - He has long cooldowns in lane, yes, but is very safe due to his passive and W. If you play around those you take very little damage in trades and will win a lot of them from what I have seen. Would it be fair is he had shorter cooldowns, since he is manaless and so safe? Plus he has a lot of gamage on that Q if you position to land them all. - His shield is low at level 1, yes, but 2 ADCs being equal, then one gets 200 extra hp, that is huge. If it is bigger I do not see how it would be balanced at all. Later into the game where people can do 1000+ damage in 2 seconds probably means that person got caught out by an assassin or is being focused, in which case, why would the Shen barge in there and probably die as well/ do nothing while the Assassin used his assassin abilities to get away? - Imo the strongest part of the ultimate is the teleportation, making even fights uneven in your favor. Ult botlane to get a 3v2, Jungler for a 2v1 or 3v1 if he ganks and so on, maybe even use it to rotate bot with mid and jungle to take tower as five. That is very strong, on par with TF ult, which is a pain in the ass if done right. If you use it and get interrupted or die, or if your ally dies while you channel or you do not get a kill or objective that at least matches what your enemy toplaner gets, how is that not you misjudging either the situation you ult to, or the situation you ult from? - It is true Taric can make your whole team invulnerable for 2.5 seconds, but it is a very telegraphed setup that you can easily react to by engaging hard on a low health target or disengaging and waiting, letting them waste it. You need some good foresight as Taric to pull it off, I know I can't. Sorakas heal is countered by Grievous Wounds (which you should probably get on most champions if the enemy Soraka is good or fed), Kindred makes the enemy invulnerable, too. Janna and Lulu are a %%%%% to deal with, agreed. Every big ult has trade-offs, maybe except Lulu's, Shen's is no different, and an instant shield with an incoming tank is nothing to snuff at if used correctly imo. Do feel free to counter my points, those are my tohughts on Shen, and would like your thoughts on mine. No input whatsoever on Skarner, the three times I ahve seen him is not enough for me to know anything.
: jungling characters?
Rengar takes skill? That is news to me. In mt games he is always on the enemy team shouting "first time Rengar", 20 kills in 20 minutes... Seems like a good champ to main for me (Never played Rengar, but died to him and his stupid leap too many times, red.)
DeathCody (EUW)
: I suck.
Watch some coaching videos on youtube by NEACE. In every single one of them he speaks about people not getting exp and map pressure. That is what I focus on atm and I have actually improved a lot. Every decision you make, ask yourself: will my opponent get more exp than me if I do this? Yes, get back to lane, no, go ahead and try stuff. It is very simplyfied, but enough for scrubs like us to get through Silver with more carry potential then everyone else. Also, if you are like me you are thinking "damn, he just blew his WHOLE COMBO on me, I am less than half health, I am scared, better go back to tower", lost me a lot of lanes and fights. Now I try to think "Everything on cooldown, eh? GL dealing with my stuff". These few things have made me improve a lot. Now I just need to learn how to actually carry games after laning phase...
jaohava69 (EUW)
: Fizz
I had/have the same problem. My conclusion now is to play something mobile like Ahri with my only goal being not to feed and ping the hell out of my lane when he goes into fog of war. Then my botlane dies over and over, and Fizz carries the game. So yeah, I can deal with him, but my botlane can't. But the core thing is, play safe, dont feed. Take Barrier and Stopwatch if you are not confident, then farm, push waves, roam, don't give him the opportinity to get close enough to kill you. Then team fights happen at some point, he uses E, you unleash hell on him and kill him with your team.
Pifster (EUW)
: Which assassin should I buy with ekko and akali's playstyle?
Diana, assuming you can go in and get the kill without needing to escape
: Dorans Shield
So Darius cannot wreak havoc in my Silver games?!? Wuhuuu!!
: How does future's market work?
You can go 150g in debt at first, and it goes up by 5 every minute, so you can go 200 in debt at 12 minutes etc. It helps to get your early items faster. For example {{champion:41}} really like his Sheen, so when you are low on mana/ health at 900 gold you can normally either greed for 150 more gold before you back, or back and get half a buy. With Future's Market you get the Sheen, putting you at -200 (50 gold fee), but much stronger in lane.
158 (EUW)
: Revert huge jinx buff
they take 0.7 seconds to arm, so she has to place them well to be effective, also it is her only real escape, so if she managed to have enough distance between you and her that she could use them to effectively stop you it means her positioning was better than yours. Seems fair to me.
SzatanacY (EUNE)
: Is it possible to get RP refund for ur banned account?
: 6300 champs
assuming you don't get any shards of 6300 champs you need 5-8 levels, 5 if all level capsules are max BE, 8 if every level gives lowest BE
: Ban me, I'm toxic.
An easier solution would be to transition from top lane and only deal with him in team fights where your team can focus and kill him in a few seconds, wouldn't it?
WeAreDeath (EUNE)
: Yeyyy i got responded by Ritooou. :D
he literally responded 6 hours before that as well :D
WeAreDeath (EUNE)
: U didnt understand. :D if your main tole is ADC for example but your second role is support its most likely that tou are gonna support in 98% of your games. But if you do not play support at all, if you get autofilled you will get autofilled to support. So its support anyways. I may be wrong but Ive never got autofilled to mid or jungle.....only support. Riot could easily change the autofill name to "Support autofill" and noone would notice it.
I understand it perfectly :) It is just that your question was already answered by a Riot employee and since you consider autofill to be autofill, his/her answer is the correct one :) But yeah, you almost always autofill to support when it happens
WeAreDeath (EUNE)
: No, its always Jungle/Bot. But when iget autofill its always Support. I never got autofilled for mid or top.
So the answer was one of the other three roles. Thanks.
WeAreDeath (EUNE)
: Its always support dude.....always support. And if you put support as your second role, you are...guess what? Going to support.
: Getting Autofilled Doesn't Grant Autofill Protection
since I have seen people making the mistake i am gonna ask the stupid question: When you got autofilled was that to your secondary role or to one of the three roles you did not wish for?
: What is the best way to treat toxic players in a match?
what works for me most of the time is simply stating that however bad I am we were matched to be at an equal level. They rarely say more after that.
WõOxer (EUW)
: No one cares about your shitty map.
I care. So you are wrong, my good sir.
zeketius (EUW)
: No, and I did highlight it by bolding it. Saying that was my only mistake but I dont think that I got punished fairly since im overall not a toxic player at all and that one slipped due to a lot of factors.
Well, that is the thing. It does not seem fair, but don't ever use the flagged words. It was not an inside joke, so you got the punishment they reserve for such cases. I totally agree there should be context and the other players should be flagged is they provoked you, but it is a well-established fact you cannot use certain words under any circumstances.
zeketius (EUW)
: I am not going to end my life, thank you :D. Like I said in the original comment it was not used as an insult but as an inside joke to my friend that was in the same game when all went to hell and I died stupidly to a gank. And yes, so many ways, I have regretted saying that word, a lot. Especially when I now have to play a shit ton of league to get my honor rewards again.
You highlighted this as a comment to your friend: > zeketius: im gonna %%% (<--inside joke to my friend when I died if you think I said this as an insult like riot did) Was this also for your friend? You did not highlight it as such > zeketius: stfu %%%got
zeketius (EUW)
: I did not say "I'm gonna kill myself. you should join me!". What I meant was " I'm gonna kms :D". And about if i'm gay or not is for you to think.
If you are really gonna end your own life, do as you please, because, dead soon. If you are not serious about it, it is easily construed as toxic behaviour if it is not you getting solokilled in your sololane. If ever it is a response to anything involving another player, don't do it. Again, oh so many other ways to make your point without using flagged words. And I don't think so. {{sticker:sg-ahri-2}}
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