if up to 10 champions were eliminated from the potential pool of champions you would still get assigned a random champion... Not to mention 1. you can trade champions in champ select as it is, and 2. when you, like me, don't have all champions I am still limited in what champions I can potentially get. So it is not "all random" in the sense I think you describe anyways.

Ha! Well played! :D didn't quite catch that. Are you then gold now? {{sticker:slayer-jinx-catface}}

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And you didn't win? What are you, Silver? {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}} you can do it next time!

Ha!

Thanks!

Thanks! {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}

You can do it!

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You seem like a scoundrel. And with that winrate over that many games you are obviously boosting! {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}

Guess I can {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-rainbows}}

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thanks :D

Shit, now I can't excuse my bad plays on being Silver anymore {{sticker:sg-ahri-1}}

I feel the no.2 part. I have learned you can alt+m1 on the champion to target it. It wil last a few seconds, so if you do that slightly before they close you can tell which is the right one. hard to do in the ehat of battle tohugh, but it actually works

can't ban, need to also ban Zed, Kassadin, Fizz, Kayn, Shaco, irelia... Too many champions, too few bans. So need the guide.

N O !

would be dandy indeed {{sticker:sg-lulu}}

yes, very lucky. But again, by a few I mean a few. Maybe 3 games this past year all in all. Out of, maybe, a few hundred. So yeah. I don't know what you play, but what you can do is not die, play something that can be relevant without getting kills and ping all the pings you can ping. I have a 60% winrate on my cass atm (only 40-ish games, but still) and I don't do anything fancy, mostly I just don't die in lane, maybe once against good assassins, and 2 if I really screw up. Then I somehow get to minute 20, have my 2 items and a 4/1/3 score. Then I start to do damage and am a presence in team fights. It is legit like "damn I have done nothing this game. Wait, when did I kill 4 people?!?" sometimes.

ah, thought it was something like that and it makes sense. Thanks {{sticker:vlad-salute}} Though I was kinda hoping something had slipped by me and projection/hologram technology had anvanced a lot lately {{sticker:sg-lulu}}

I have won a few of those kind of games. Mostly luck though, since it was when I had teams that 1. didn't tilt from early feeding and 2. knew objectives were the way to win the game. So I personally did what I could to not die mid on my Cass so I would scale, and my team stopped taking random fights after lane phase and grouping for objectives. This meant that the enemy team was looking for picks, that were not there, so we were mid doing a 5v3 a lot of times, taking a tower and backing off. But again, you need to be lucky enough to get a team that knows not to die when you are behind and taking towers win games. Most of the time this is not the case

Easy. You have a fountain, don't you? Your mistake is to leave it.

Mundo throws Q. Mundo hits Q. Aery does damage to the enemy. Mundo happy.

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So, how do you not let the mid roam when he has superior waveclear and kill pressure if I follow or contest in the middle of the lane?

"why do you ignore the information map gives you" Because no one has map awareness in Silver. That is what it is. Therefore pings should save lives, yet they don't.

So there is nothing to do. Just let you die and accept the flame you are inevitable goinna give for me "not pinging"? (not saying you do this, but a substantial amount do)

So how should I ping to convey the enemy Zed is coming your way and you are gonna die if you don't back off? Assuming you have not turned off pings 10 minutes into the game

okay, so you reduce the whole post to this? Seriously?

> Have you ever see any champioship where someone skips banning? It has happened. It is very tactical and something about pressuring the other team into a favorable pick/ban for you, but I have seen it happen once or twice.

I made a report to support once with such stuff. They told me they would log it (not their exact words, but meaning that), but there is no guarantee the guy would do anything to troll the game and therefore I should not expect any actions to be taken against him (again, not a citation here, but that was the basic meaning)

Actually she is not too bad. Basically you only have to cower under your turret for the first 15 minutes of the game and make a few goat sacrifices to your local pagan god so your botlane listens to your pings when she roams and she does not get fed. If she does, well, it's on your for not providing a first class goat to your god.

I am against anything that makes Shaco more viable in any way.

I only have 22 games so far, but a winrate of 68%, so as a champion she is definitely not a problem down here. The problem is me wanting to get more farm later in the game, so I can keep it up when i advance.

thanks for understanding. I play Cassio mid, so kinda-but-not-really utility. but I have found, though, that when i get Rylai's I can basically set up a perimeter for my ADC so they can't be dived (?) upon, even if I get behind. What I want, tohugh, is to do damage, since that is where she shines obviously. And that gets really hard without items. Not to mention when i play against assassins who are out for me and I need to get my defensive stats as well.

Okay then

Okay, clean slate. We are talking way besides each other. My statement is that the current system supports trolling behaviour. It does not endorse it, nor does it encourage it, but it simply does not discourage it. Any decent troll knows not to int, leave or flame in a game and all in all he should be good and still get his honor 5 reward by end of season. there should be an automatic system in place to catch all the obvious sinners and as many as possible of the not so obvious ones, too. And I think it can be done more extensively than it seems to be the case now. I say seems, since as a player I don't feel like bad players are being punished. there are laws against me knowing how many players are punished or not, but the point is that I don't know and that shapes how I see the system. Riot should be able to release and get the word out about how effective their system is. Can I find the information? Possibly. But I am not gonna search for it as a casual player. It is all about perception. And silly as it is, the sense of justice. This makes the system flawed and does not prevent players from trolling, since there is no perceived threat. I ahve literally had games with players stating they troll, and they do, and that they don't give a %%%% because they have been doing so for a long time. I agree forums are mainly people complaining about this stuff when it is mentioned, but I also experience the hopelessness in games when there is a troll. In response to a game where there is an obvious troll I have never seen anyone type anything along the lines of "don't worry. He will be treated as he should and his kind will be fewer in number soon." It is more "*sigh*, well this happened again." I am totally fine with people reforming, what I want is games where people do not troll and destroy the game experience. And if they do steps should be taken to stop the player from doing it again. This is where you can punish people and either make them reform or simply remove their account from the game. Punishment for me is anything from low-priority queue to permanent/ID ban. Whatever is the necessary step. Or some kind of positive reinforcement I have no concrete idea of, since I have spent the better part of 10 minutes thinking about this. Or something I haven't even considered, as long as it does its thing.