Sakuczya (EUW)
: Why is lol so difficult...
Because people are stupid, don't want to learn, ego wont allow them to listen to better players and refuse to work for and as a team.
: and? unless your diamond that doesnt make a big difference, especially not heal and barrier, heal is better yes but not an instant win over barrier
don't chat shit, take barrier every game over heal and notice the difference.
: you type so much and complain all the time.. when do you actually play ?
I wonder myself, I love the fucknig game, I hate that you're totally restricted to what you can say, if its so fucking bad there is a mute option. Spend time banning people for saying why are you building like shit instead of uncompetitive wusses crying report all game or feed because there ego got touched
: Great, you again. Hopefully you'll at least _try_ to resist the urge to label people you disagree with as "babies" again. > [{quoted}](name=GGeasynoobz,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=qYblj6jH,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-07-22T17:21:43.889+0000) > > Game 1 > : are you trolling me/ Blaming. > : fuckong done Negativity. > : YOu > : ARE > : MY FUCKING PROBLEM Aggression and negativity. > i: your fucking keystone > : is useless > i: keystone > : is shit Aggression and negativity. > : its not reportable for me to roam, have fun Negativity. > : jihn with barrier and keystone like that > : is cance > : so dont talk about troll, when you think thats legit > i: ITS TERRIBLE > : you talk all you like > : you cant > : justify > : your summonerts and keystone Negativity. > : no > : you dont have a clue > : heal > i: IS > : BETTER UTILITY > : ignorant Insulting. > : you knew i was dumb? though i never said a word in champ select Retaliating to flaming. > : report me for nothing Negativity. > : im not flaming Yes you are. And even if you weren't, it's hardly the only thing I'm seeing you do thus far. > : and remind me of your division jhin? Using rank as a means of insulting. > : why dont look at this fantastic comp you guys put together? > : 4 ad champs, with zero tanks, zero cc, zero engage :) > i: i apparently am the troll with that comp :) Blaming. > Game 2 > : stop > : pishing > : and play Negativity. > : we have kill > : pressure > : you > : fucking > i: bnoios Aggression. > : against a pair of bronze > : with wrong masteries > : and he makes it look tough Negativity by way of using rank as a means of insulting. > Ofc this is perm ban worthy Why yes, I intentionally see past your sarcasm and say that it indeed is - I would not want to have you as my teammate if you escalate situations like this into aggressive raging rather than focussing on the match _this_ easily. > So i want an explaination, why aren't more people banned if im being banned for explain why barrier is shit compared to heal and not verbally abusing anyone, and the rest of the team can call report and say no different to what i did. Because leaving aside how you actually _were_ verbally abusing people as well as how you seem to think that your teammates weren't punished just because you didn't see it happen, that isn't the only thing that you did. You also escalated exchanges with your teammates into flaming, and overall created a very negative vibe around your behaviour. And in any case, there _are_ better ways to explain that _don't_ involve the condescension and insulting attitude you display here. Maybe _try_ thinking of a more polite, less tilt-inducing means of informing someone of their poor setup than, "barrier is shit compared to heal". > Game 2- Someone moaning and threatning to leave so i said go. Then saying they flash for no reason, is this honestly PERMA BAN WORTHY? On it's own? I wouldn't say so. When combined with your entire history of bad behaviour? It's pretty much the cherry on the metaphorical sundae. > Yes i deserved previous bans, but for this to be perma banned? IS this pre school? Don't try to twist it like that. That is not the whole story and you damn well know it. The 14-day ban warning explicitly tells you the system keeps a closer eye on you for infractions once the ban is up. If you fail to show that you're willing to move past the bad behaviour, that's what gets you the permaban. You weren't permabanned because of what you specifically did in those games alone, because they don't exist in a vacuum. You were banned because you showed Riot that you don't care about reforming even after being warned against it repeatedly. The league community does not want people like that around, hence the permaban. So, after all this...well, it really puts [the last time I saw you mindlessly complaining on this forum]( into greater context, doesn't it? You only hold such acrimony towards this community because they rightfully don't like the way you act, and Riot agrees with them. Punishment deserved.
Go ahead and play with people like this jhin on a regular basis, bare in mind you can't say anything but positive things because even if they are doing something completely wrong and totally unviable, you are not welcome to say anything as its negative. Lets all adhere to the babies of the game that know nothing about the game. Its like this baby community where people cry about a few words in a game, im not there to be nice, I'm there to win a game. Telling a person what he picks is garbage should not be perma bannable. No verbal abuse, so idk wtf you're talking about. Telling people there build is shit. Telling people why are you doing this. IS not fucking abuse......
Pootis 5 (EUNE)
: What keystone did Jhin take?If he took fervor it's acceptable,even if it's pretty useless Regarding the ban,yep you derserved it
He took stormsurgers ffs along with barrier.
Riddarn (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=GGeasynoobz,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=qYblj6jH,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-07-22T17:21:43.889+0000) why aren't more people banned if im being banned Because the punishment system is complete trash and doesn't punish nearly all the players that deserve to be punished. It got you, though.
There you go, its complete trash.
: Greetings. I hope I can help you understand why you have received this punishment. >im being banned for explain why barrier is shit compared to heal You hardly explained anything. All you said was "your keystone / summoner is shit" and that "99.9% of people use heal" - I don't see any explanation here. But of course this wasn't the sole reason you got punished. It was more likely the fact that you blamed your teammate for their choice of summoners. Honestly, you completely overreacted. Having Barrier over Heal is not going to cost you the game. Blaming others, and arguing for the whole will grant you a loss, and a permaban... But wait, there's more: ---- >its not reportable for me to roam, have fun You apparently trolled by leaving your laner behind, not the reason for your punishment, but it certainly justifies one. > you dont have a clue ignorant You're getting close to blatantly insulting your teammate here, If you wanted to discuss Summoner Spell spell choices you would not talk like this. You just wanted to belittle others at that point. Note that just because things are true, doesn't mean they can't be offensive too. >either top or roam or afk, i chose to carry on exactly why i wont afk? Threatening to go afk, even if you don't do it, is reportable. Just like in real life, threats are taken seriously. > and remind me of your division jhin? Mocking others for their rank. >you fucking bnoios Though "bnoios" might not be a real word, the intention of an insult stays the same. Replacing a word is not enough to "hide" an insult. >Ofc this is perm ban worthy, get a fucking grip. Well this isn't the only thing that got you banned. As you said, you had punishments previously, and the mail you received it clearly stated that your next punishment will be a permanent ban. So even mild toxicity is enough to cause this action. >If this is ban worthy 90% of the community would be banned. Even mild toxicity isn't spewed by such a large portion of players. The vast majority is either positive or neutral, and far away from reaching the punishment stage you got to.
You need to read the whole log as to where i explained why heal is better. Nice word, apparently. There is no "set" meta, if my adc is bad and I don't enjoy playing with him, i will roam, i will just sit there and do nothing but get riled and frustrated as the game is lost as I sit there in "fear" of being deemed a troll. I went top lane. There was no threat of going afk, read it again ffs. I said there was a choice of top, roam or afk, I decided not to afk but to go top, wtf are you talking about? pathetic if you cant say someone is being ignorant, when they are being ignorant, by god. What is this? You can speak truth if its not super positive? Because you cant see there responses you are seeing it differently to how it was. Didn't mock his rank, he never even stated it, i wanted to know what it was, but of course you don't see there responses so again assume he told me and im slating him for it. wrong. To be tipped to be perma banned for this is pathetic. Game is turning into a 12 rated.
Rioter Comments
Leptyx (EUW)
: It's like asking "do i build IE or Youmuu first on Lissandra adc ?", argh this thread just makes me want to flame on this thread lol --- > movement speed is so important on him to stick to targets As trundle support you won't really need to stick to targets, since you're not gonna deal damage (low gold income + sightstone, etc). At best, your ult will indirectly (thru teammates) deal more damage than your basic attacks xD You have your Q+W to stick to targets anyways, but you'll focus more on tanking/cc.. which will lead me to say "pick leona instead" if i argue deeper Regardless of the champion, the choice of boots depends on enemy team. Tabi against aa/AD, Mercury against cc/AP, Swiftness against slows, pretty simple
Not really? i'm not ask to state the obvious in if you're playing against a lot of ap you build mercs. I'm just feeling that swifties aren't worth all that much and wasn't really sure if that little bit of movement speed is worth forgoing stats. Trundle much tankier than Leona, totally different play style to.
: The team's total kills doesn't matter. All that means is that your team didn't do well in terms of kills, which has no effect on whether such an amount of assists is good. Thresh is a champ who makes kills happen anyways.
How does a teams total kills not matter?
ThePikol (EUNE)
: 46min game and only 51 minions? work on your cs, even as supp and u will get that S
Yes my cs was the problem :)
Tarolock (EUW)
: thunderlords is still crap on thresh, as a support you dont build ad nor ap to make thunder worth it, you could go for grasp of the undying, that would make more dmg and it would heal you
Just curious how many thresh games you got this season?
: Sooooo, rank sucks.
Being a support main, I feel your pain. Some games you feel completely hopeless, especially if you're playing something like janna for example. I honestly don't have an answer for it to get better besides premading. I refuse to play solo because i don't trust the randomness of other players. I like being able to talk and dictate what i want in games, solo queue you can't. Another thing is playing with people you know you won't get trolls, afks and people who are commited to winning. Take mid for sure, you have a much bigger affect on the map. Don't know if this has any relevance, but thought I'd let you know you're not alone.
Tarolock (EUW)
: warding 56 good, kill participation 81% good, you destroyed 7 wards thats okish, i cant see objective participation (towers/dragons/baron kills) so not sure about that, so far so good but then i look at your mastery, wtf is thunderlord on thresh? based on that i guess your dmg taken is low and thats kinda bad on a tank, then i have no idea why do you have less gold with 30 assist than a 3/9/9 sona with same cs, so thats really bad too, and then there is your dmg, even tho you are a tank 8k dmg in a 50 min match is low with thresh, looking at my match history (it was a while ago): 5/5/23, 32 min match 13k dmg done
We got an early drake, think i participated, we lost the rest of the drakes. We lost a lot of map control towards mid game. There are two ways i see it to play thresh, Either i see my laning phase being hell and hard to get kills, with a weak adc so i would run bond of stone. However when i can be more aggressive and because i generally like the extra CDR and damage in lane, i go thunderlords. I don't consider thresh to be a tank, he's kind of mix I think. Even though Sona had more gold, you cant argue I contributed much much more.
Rioter Comments
Silico (EUW)
: What's the deal with boosted people?
Never understood it myself and agree with you, its a waste of money for the boosted as like you said, if they are so below the skill line at that level, he will always feed until he is where he belongs. Its crappy for people who have to play with someone unskilled because the game is unbalanced. Only person that benefits from boosting is the booster. Maybe the boosted just get a sense of pride from people thinking they got to this position. Ego thing.
Boop chan (EUW)
: Good chmapions for climbing in low elo?
for support, Bard = pick potential, the power is with you to initiate. Great roam and ganks. Soraka to is forgiving for bad adcs + they don't know who to focus most of the time Adc = Ashe, same as above, you get to initiate picks as people 100% over extend in lower elos. Mid = TF, same reason, make picks and ganks with ult, snowball and pressure all lanes. Good wve clear and split push possibilities. Top = Meta picks / Split pushers, people in low elo can't deal with this, and if you're ahead they always need to send people to pressure you. Jungler = Good gank junglers with cc, why? because people over extend and don't ward. so maybe gragas, nothing to mechanically challenging.
: Grades: Still legit
that was the 2nd placement game. Don't get you soda, 30 assists, no deaths is not good apparently. Depends if you're playing in bronze elo i guess. I did look at the gold difference and wondered why myself. We were actually struggling majority of that game until they started going to our base and getting picked off eventually throwing baron. Our 2 inhibs restored then we won from there. I placed 4 more pink wards at 6, 56 wards, 9 more than sona and killed 7 compared to sonas 21... wow. I do tend to let me adcs take the ward kill as i rather give everything to them. I also think it was the gold item that accumulated more.
Rioter Comments
: lf other smurfs for DQ
Flavius890 (EUNE)
: Hi.. I have a new account level 24 and i`m looking to make it 30 at least next week, Monday. I am Diamond 4 on EUNE. IGN = Flavius890EUW I am top main.
not implying what i added is about you btw
: lf other smurfs for DQ
Just want to add i only want smurfs, not to elo boost you with your current 50% win rate in silver 5 over 600 games. Thanks
Rioter Comments
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
who cares, a good player with experience naturally would want to lead and direct his team, you're the type of player to cry if anyone tells you to baron and then you type in chat, you should of asked you rude player......
Caraméla (EUW)
: Is this flame?
People in this game are genuine whinebags over a few curse words which they can mute. People state toxic for every little thing that offends them cause they're babies. Sure i get why people call abuse toxic, but saying shit like why pick a champion if you cant play is perfectly fucknig alright if you want a competitive game
: Sounds like someone got chatbanned for "giving advice" :) Seriously though, the line between constructive criticism and flaming is quite thin. Judging by your comments and how you're wording stuff here I can tell you're one of those players that confuses pointing out mistakes with giving advice. Next time you "give advice" take a few seconds before typing and think about how to phrase your question towards your fallen teammate, so that he can understand that you're trying to help him and that you're not attacking him.
Fair point.
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
Because i don't like something doesn't make it toxic
: > [{quoted}](name=GGeasynoobz,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=Hs4OP2Yb,comment-id=00090000,timestamp=2016-07-02T00:48:54.490+0000) > > Were not even discussing flamers, You bring up flamers twice in your original post. Who are you trying to fool here?
The amount of babys wrapped in cotton wall is ridiculous. What people call flame and toxic, get a fucking clue and a grip on whats a real issue. People telling you to heal/flash/ult, giving advice, asking why not do this instead of this etc.. is deemed as flaming. Honestly if you can't handle little comments like this life will suck for you. Grow a bit of skin and report for necessary stuff jesus My whole discussion is people crying over nothing, things that aren't toxic are being labelled so. So imo flamers don't even exist in this topic, if you get what i mean?
: > [{quoted}](name=GGeasynoobz,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=Hs4OP2Yb,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2016-07-01T20:02:57.162+0000) > > no stupid point, Because you're offended doesn't make it flaming or toxic does it. Umm...yes it does. The entire natural reaction to flaming and toxicity is offense. It's a negative thing by definition, so a negative reaction in that vein is inevitable. You saying it's stupid doesn't make it less true. You only say it's stupid because it means you can't flame any more.
I'm not looking to flame, I'm annoyed that asking questions and wondering why people ult one time on jhin in a game is now offensive and toxic.............................
: > [{quoted}](name=GGeasynoobz,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=Hs4OP2Yb,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2016-07-01T20:11:38.129+0000) > > that's a dangerous thing to say. Blaming victims, asking a person who ults once on jhin all game and refuses to heal/flash is offensive behaviour? Is it toxic? How do we know that's even what you have a habit of doing? There's a difference between "asking" and "demanding", and as RebelsAgainstGod already said, even if you _were_ just "asking", that's assuming that what you're saying is even warranted in the first place. > What is ytour suggestion? sit silently and do nothing all game? No, it's "don't be a jerk". And considering a lot of your replies in this thread, you evidently think you're somehow above that.
You don't know. Obviously theres a difference which i know the difference with telling and asking. Again not a reason to cry and be offended and call report. Asking questions doesn't make you a toxic flaming jerk either..
: If alt+f4 doesn't work, try restarting your computer and uninstalling, that might reduce toxicity by about 9001%.
you can take your own advice if this is the kind of shit you want to post ;)
: The only people who need to get a thinner skin are flamers themselves, you tell them anything/do anything "wrong" in the game (Because if you aren't perfect, you're bronze kid who ruined their game and should uninstall, obviously) and they start raging like I insulted their whole family tree. Crimea riven {{item:3070}} {{champion:92}}
Were not even discussing flamers, you know the kind of people to insult.
: Had a game like that recently, wirh the differenc that i roamed while i wasnt evem playing my best role, he got 2 kills and was 2/10 (at te emd 2/11) He was riven vs jax and i was nice amd gave him advices, at the start he was negative and timted but in the end he actually listened and build tank so that he could absorb the dmg-> we won What do you think would flaming her have done?
Depends on the person. But its good that he listened, just simply flaming he probably wouldn't of built tanky.
: Nobody asked for your "advice" So please keep it to yourself unless they ask for it!
you're right mate, you never been in a game with a player going 0/10 and you can see him pushing and fighting the enemy laner have you? you stood back and said nothing which helped the guy so much ;) then you probably lost. Such an asshole to try and help and give a tip to your feeding team mate....
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
Who says its constantly? if you constantly harass every single thing, sure i can relate.
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
Flaming is a hostile and insulting interaction between Internet users, often involving the use of profanity. It can also be the swapping of insults back and forth or with many groups teaming up on a single victim. Flaming usually occurs in the social context of an Internet forum, Internet Relay Chat (IRC), Usenet, by e-mail, game servers such as Xbox Live or PlayStation Network, and on video-sharing websites such as YouTube. It is frequently the result of the discussion of heated real-world issues such as politics, religion, and philosophy, or of issues that polarize sub-populations, but can also be provoked by seemingly trivial differences. This is why. Flaming is flaming. Asking a question isn't, therefore these people who cry about this need to get thicker skin and saying so isn't treating a person like garbage, doing so makes you sound like the people im describing
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
Flaming is a hostile and insulting interaction between Internet users, often involving the use of profanity. It can also be the swapping of insults back and forth or with many groups teaming up on a single victim. Flaming usually occurs in the social context of an Internet forum, Internet Relay Chat (IRC), Usenet, by e-mail, game servers such as Xbox Live or PlayStation Network, and on video-sharing websites such as YouTube. It is frequently the result of the discussion of heated real-world issues such as politics, religion, and philosophy, or of issues that polarize sub-populations, but can also be provoked by seemingly trivial differences. Kinda wipes your argument out the water when i say " why don't you heal? doesn't it ;)
: Please think about your picks. PLEASE!!!! (just venting about a lost gam, carry on)
Careful before people start calling you toxic for being legit annoyed at idiots on your team
: Well, some people consider "stop feeding noob" or "uninstall" to be advice. They are not wrong. But they are still jerks ;) Actually...i wonder why I never posted this under any of those threads (probably because of the "asshole"):
Oh no you said a naughty word, banned for life
Najns (EUW)
: >asking why not do this instead of this etc.. Because it's usually like "WTF WHY NO FOLLOW NOOB REPORT IDIOT!" Why people consider comments toxic is because they are mostly extremely negative.
I'm not talking about those people am i? I could understand a negative reaction to that
: I'm afraid it's not your decision what kind of behavior other players have to accept. There are rules in this community and if you don't keep them you'll be kicked from this community eventually. Blaming the victims won't prevent that. Either keep the rules or accept the concequences like an adult (which I suppose you are, since you complain about others being "babies").
that's a dangerous thing to say. Blaming victims, asking a person who ults once on jhin all game and refuses to heal/flash is offensive behaviour? Is it toxic? What is ytour suggestion? sit silently and do nothing all game?
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
Who says you treat them like garbage?
: > The amount of babys wrapped in cotton wall is ridiculous. What people call flame and toxic, get a fucking clue and a grip on whats a real issue. So basically, because there are worse things out there, that means that this specific objection shouldn't be focussed on? Well, there's clearly worse things out there than being banned from League, so under your own ideology, you shouldn't have even made this thread. Because hey, it's _nothing_ compared to the "real issues" out there in the real world! See how stupid that sounds? [It sounds _really_ stupid,]( doesn't it?
no stupid point, Because you're offended doesn't make it flaming or toxic does it.
: Your attitude will probably get you banned at some point, so I wouldn't worry about us if I were you.
No, you're forced to be completely silent because suggesting or saying anything is "toxic and flaming" its like you can't say a word without people crying
Valzuuuh (EUW)
: He/She have been permabanned already 2 times
those were justified, i flamed on those accounts. However, my point stands
LA Losty (EUW)
: There is a difference between giving advice and calling other people garbage for not doing exactly what you wanted, whilst saying it in full caps, often accompanied by a few rude names.
You can suggest not overextending with no ward, is that rude or force someone to completely tilt or tell you to stfu?
Rioter Comments
Aptest (EUW)
: Every attempt to make a "general mindset" list that I have seen so far has failed miserably due to the creator biassing the list with his own prejudice. Thus: I refuse to reply.
: Have you been punished? [poll]
had 2 perm bans, probably 4/5 2 week bans and a shed load of chat restrictions. All for flaming. Yes i deserved the bans but I guess i can give a little insight as to why. i want to win first and foremost... i don't have fun getting stomped, hate losing. I do my best to win and play as smartly as i possibly can, but when I see my team mates half assed, effortless, doing brainless things, whining about the jungler not ganking the lanes that they lose, you back ping and they give cheap kills, i lose my shit. Its infuriating seeing all your efforts thrown away for no reason. I only have fun playing with people i know, solo is hell for me.
Àvalon (EUW)
: Platinum I, 99LP on my main: My mindset: Instead of trying to get kills, I try to add as much pressure as possible to my enemy laner (top main and mid), and when my jungler comes to gank, I go in for it. And not making the gank too obvious tho'. Also, pay a lot of attention to the vision my wards gives, and make sure to get objectives with my team, like dragon, or when my jungler gets invaded, I notice it directly, isntead of taking like 10 seconds like in bronze or silver elo. And importantly, not being too greedy or underestimating them. ^_^
how about your attitude? do you wanna really improve or casual?
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