Shamose (EUW)
: Riots Punishment system is godlike. (Feat. TF Blade.)
Holten (EUW)
: At this point I'm just muting all
I think riot made a bad choice by making it a snowball meta. There have always been flamers in this game. But I kinda feel like it got worse when the snowball meta came. They even hade to put in a "surrender at 15 min" thanks to players just going afk when they saw how the enemy team snowballed. They want a competitive game, but they don't want flamers, so making players snowball hard as hell just made thins worse, players are gonna get more frustrated when they feel like they are being bullied in lane and not receiving any help. That's just my opinion.
Kurotsu (EUW)
: How many toxic people have you seen in TFT?
Think I've seen one only. I don't play it that much. But when I do it's mostly quiet.
Player 00 (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Glennplank,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=hM3r0PNT,comment-id=00080001,timestamp=2019-09-01T12:11:04.717+0000) > > I've seen plenty of inters this season, also seen a lot of players admitting to troll and lose games. So you must be quite lucky if you haven't played with one single inter all season long. I don't really care if you think I am full of BS, but the fact is that you call people with bad games inters. So was your 3/11 TF also inting ? What would you do if some one went ballistics and reported you for inting and then Riot would actually punish you for it ? Exactly. Same goes to all the "Inters" you reported for inting and they received no penalties because they were almost 100% not inting, just like you probably didn't either. And that's why you didn't get any punishments over it either even tho some salty kid like you probably reported you for inting :D
> [{quoted}](name=Player 00,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=hM3r0PNT,comment-id=000800010000,timestamp=2019-09-01T20:43:46.801+0000) > > I don't really care if you think I am full of BS, but the fact is that you call people with bad games inters. So was your 3/11 TF also inting ? What would you do if some one went ballistics and reported you for inting and then Riot would actually punish you for it ? Exactly. Same goes to all the "Inters" you reported for inting and they received no penalties because they were almost 100% not inting, just like you probably didn't either. And that's why you didn't get any punishments over it either even tho some salty kid like you probably reported you for inting :D How good of you to take an aram game as an exempel for "inting", and no, I don't call people that die a lot for inters. I call inters for inters, players that tilt so hard they just feed, or players that go in to games to troll and int and make the opponent stronger. I have had players admit they troll and throw games. And it's not hard to see if someone is just unlucky a game or just inting. Knowing you are far behind and still you dive in to 4 or 5 champs is inting, and not only doing it once or twice, but doing 5-8 times and you end up with the same result of you dying over and over again making it harder for your team to win the game is INTING.
slick408 (EUNE)
: ***
Unfortunately there are way too many riot sjw's here. I actually had someone tell me that an Udyr on my team never trolled or made us lose just by looking at the stats of the game. That Udyr did a good job until he got tilted. Then he even wrote In the chat after the game finished he made us lose. But 'cause he had the most dmg to dragons I got told by a rito sjw he never trolled.
Player 00 (EUW)
: ***
I've seen plenty of inters this season, also seen a lot of players admitting to troll and lose games. So you must be quite lucky if you haven't played with one single inter all season long. PS. I think your full of sh*t.
LuckyChloe7 (EUNE)
: Riot doesn't care anymore
That's the reason I stopped playing jungle. And also thanks to rito making it harder all the time to be a jungler.
KiogeST (EUW)
: League players need to stop flaming.
Players will never stop flaming seeing how this is a competitive game. And me personally, I have no problem with flame, but I do have a problem with players trolling, inting, being afk, and rage quiting.
: The problem on my opinion isn't the fact that they're adding new skins instead of fixing the game. On my opinion the problem is that tey're releasing skins to the same 20 champions and not giving the other 120 any love whatso ever. Also the REAL problem here is that riot is trying to make us believe that the reason why they refuse to fix the game is because tft has been taking up too much of their creative power, which is probably half true but I don't believe for a god damn moment that a multi billion dollar company like Riot Games doesn't have the %%%%ing man power to fix the main game and assign like 5 people to work on TFT. Team fight tactics is not complicated or important enough to hold riot back from fixing the main game that people have been playing for 10 years now, I honestly can't believe that riot removed future events, and refuses to fix the thing that made them who they are in the first place while lying to our faces about TFT taking up all of their creative power. %%%% riot, atleast for now... let's see how things are going a month down the line, but for now %%%% riot.
: Would you like Rito to stop making skins and start fixing the game?
Rioter Comments
: anyone else been getting feeding teammates more than usual?
: The community is at its peak
I had a player 1 or 2 weeks ago that told me 3-4 times during the game to go and kill myself. Didn't even say anything at all that game, or played bad, so was quite surprised.
: Can you even get banned for Aram games?
If they flame they'll get banned eventually.
: can u read? or u just want to force ur opinion on others? there are differences on the afk. THERE ARE THE TOXIC ONES and the others. I said if someone just said fk this ill troll/afk permaban. Still if u leave in mid game, 14day mininum. Cant help u more than this, if u cant read not my problem, btw my opinion is my opinion i dont need tho change the way i think cause u dont like, if i queue to a ranked is cause i want to win not just to play, so when i queue to a ranked i know i can play that game until the end, my relatives/friends/family dont appear from nothing, they call, if they want to do something they dont expect to snap their fingers and BOOM here i am free. but ok in my family/friends people are organized.
No point in arguing with JustClone. He always defends riot and is not even here on his real account, so clearly he has something to hide.
Pxerkza (EUNE)
: riot is in no way obligated to notify you when a person you report gets banned nor should they be just check the boards from time to time and you will see plenty of perma ban complaints
I usually look up the players that are toxic and troll from time to time. And guess what, they are still playing. And I don't care about people complaining here. I've looked at the threads and I'm quite chocked that they actually complain over being banned, especially when they show the chat log and you can see what they said.
jacktjong (EUW)
: Not true. There's always champs you can play that are easy enough for you to be effective in any role. Top? Garen. Jgl? Nunu, Sej or Xin. Mid? Annie or Lux. Bot? Caitlyn. Support? Morgana or Lux. But if you pick some random champ that does need skill to be effective with, it's on you. Nobody will complain when you're not an absolute god at your role, but they have a right to complain if you're not even trying or making dumb decisions.
I don't agree with that. You need to know how to play the roles. And seeing how much riot have changed jungle and force you to focus on ganks 24/7 and at the same time have control over drakes, it's not that easy to play if you never jungle before. Same with top, you say Garen is easy to play, and sure he is, but there are match-ups where he gets destroyed. And if you're not a toplaner it's not that easy. Same thing with every role.
Pxerkza (EUNE)
: beyond a permanent ban how would you suggest them getting punished harder?
That's what I want to see, them getting perma bans. 'Cause from all I've seen it only seems like toxic players are the once being punished harder than trolls, inter, afkers, and players just making you lose. He even admitted to throwing the game. But I guess that's fine 'cause he didn't say any really bad words, right?
reprot (EUW)
: Im suspecting you are sugar coating this whole thing. It's no way he went afk and trolled for no reason after trying. Someone must have upset him.. Those who provocate someone and get trolled can only thank themselves,
But no one trolled him. No one flamed him. No one provoked him, at least not from what I saw. Stopped looking at the chat after I had to mute him and when he started to spam ping. But from what I saw the other players on my team tried to calm him down. He basically got med 'cause people pushed lanes when we had baron. Some didn't follow his shot'calls, and after that he straight up gave up, rage quit at one point, he did come back, but only to watch us lose. So he more or less provoked himself by thinking he had the best calls and ideas and when some players did something else it tilted him to throw the game.
JustClone (EUNE)
: I will tell you how... I open your match history and I check this: Your damage to objectives: 16.3k Udyr damage to objectives: 59.3k To be honest, all 4 of you had less damage on objectives, than Udyr. **C O M B I N E D** So while I cannot see his "gameplay", I see the RESULT of his "gameplay". What I cannot see, is how some people who did RIDICULOUSLY less, have the nerves to complain about others... This is what I cannot see. Can you comprehend how I see gameplay in match histrory now?
Yeah, its that high thanks to him actually trying before he rage quit. But it's only from drakes and baron. He only had 824 dmg on turrets. And after he came back from his rage quit he did nothing to help. And my dmg to turrets was 5653, highest on my team. And Udyr gave me s**t for pushing mid. He lost his cool when he died botlane when we had our second baron. When we tried to take the 3 baron he just casually farmed top lane. So I don't really care what you think by just looking at the stats. There are a lot of player doing there best until they lose it and just start afk'ing or something else that makes them lose the game.. I've had a jungler before that played really well, but just because someone said something to him he typed in chat "Fine afk" and went afk. Even telling the enemy team to push. I would put up a video showing his gameplay, but it's not allowed to out players, so I can't.
JustClone (EUNE)
: But is it really?
How can you see if someone is refusing to help by looking at match history? How can you see for example that Udyr just stood still besides Jhin in our last fight before we lost and just watching us fight alone and waiting for us to die? How can you see that he refused to help us with Baron a last time? Instead he went top farming and let us try to get it alone.
JustClone (EUNE)
: I cannot see in your match history any teammate player that matches your description. Is this a made up story, or it happened on another account?
Kinda hard seeing gameplay by looking at a match history.
: But if your friends kept talking didnt they also intentionally lose you the game? If there is one thing more annoying that Int'ing it's people who chat more than play...
They tried to calm him down. They didn't flame him or anything, they just tried to make him focus instead of blaming others all the time. That's exactly what Udyr did. He was the only one inting. We all tried our best, he just gave up 'cause he, more or less, thought he had the best shot-calling. He started to flame me when I tried to get the inhib.
Rioter Comments
: You know, what do you say when these junglers do not bother to come to the line at least once and help, even when they are asked. They just farm and farm their filthy jungle, and completely ignore your line. And this person does not deserve a report and a low priority for it? I believe that he fully deserves this report. Yes, if I stand on the top and things are going well with me, I don’t ask the jungler for anything, he is farming his jungle, well, let him farm. But when I write that I need his help, and he just ignores me. This is normal ? NO ! These are his problems, not mine, if it is difficult for him to run up and help to kill. Yes, I lost the line, but he could have fixed it if he had come, and we would have killed the enemy 1-2 times. But he spits on me, but wants to win the game. No, these players do not deserve victory. If they ignore their team, even when they are asked for help, if they do not want to play in a team, they do not deserve victory! And so that you do not think about me, I understand everything and do not demand that the jungler immediately run to help, as soon as they ask her. But he should not throw the line completely without attention, especially if you see that your player began to lose on the line. Your task as a jungler is to start helping your teammate so that you win the game, and not spit on him and write - that he himself lost the line, and he is a feeder. I always give a report to those junglers who believe that farming the jungle is more important than team play, and I will always give it to them. They do not want to play as a team, then let them not climb out of the Low Priority forever. I want to add that I do not give a report to everyone in a row. If I see that the jungler is trying, and we are all trying, but we lost. I will always praise the team, even if we lose. I give a report really to those who deserve it.
I've had plenty of games when I'm pushed back all the time. Free ganks for my jungler. But instead he focus on farming and trying to gank other lanes. And when you ask for help he either ignores you or flames you. I've even seen junglers tell me I push when I'm pushed back all the time. P.S. it seems like a lot of players that jungle still believes that it's old school jungle when you can AFK farm all game. Rito made changes in jungle to force junglers to gank early, still a lot of players just afk farm.
ChefGG (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Glennplank,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=QvRHTPaw,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-08-16T22:25:56.900+0000) > > It all depends. Sometimes everyone agrees that the game is lost(Hardly ever) and ff 15. But then you have games where your team gets trashed, but for some reason the players you play with refuse to ff. And what their reasons are for not ff'ing is hard to say, it might be that they think you can actually win the game, or they might just be a**holes that wants everyone on their team to suffer. It does happen to often that people are just aholes and want to waste everyone's time and make them suffer like you said yes. Happens to often
Ye, I know. I actually think that if 4 people wants to surr after 15 min you should get to do so. Plenty of times someone takes "no" just 'cause they are mad and wants everyone to suffer.
DerVide (EUW)
: in 10 years your report system has never worked at all
One bad game can't, and shouldn't, result in a ban.
ChefGG (EUW)
: How do you deal with teammates intentionally trying to loose ranked games?
It all depends. Sometimes everyone agrees that the game is lost(Hardly ever) and ff 15. But then you have games where your team gets trashed, but for some reason the players you play with refuse to ff. And what their reasons are for not ff'ing is hard to say, it might be that they think you can actually win the game, or they might just be a**holes that wants everyone on their team to suffer.
: No matter my performance, I get flamed almost every game I play jungle.
One of the main reasons I stopped playing jungle. You always get flamed, you always get singled out as the reason your team lost, you hardly get any help if you get counterjungled. And the other reason is Rito f **king up jungle.
: We kinda need this .... i have a friend who play bad .... but always invite to ranked when i'm online
Being a girl playing lol can't be easy. lol
Yraco (EUW)
: Appear offline to friends.
I've been wanting this for years. I mean, sometimes you just have days when you wanna play by yourself, other times you want to ignore some friend that might have upset you or just being annoying. And hey, some days you just might feel a bit down and don't want anyone to bother you when you want to play some LoL.
zulkijind (EUW)
: Why Riot can't delete my accounts?
If you flame you get punished. The only thing you can get punished for in LoL. Troll, int, afk and nothing will happen to you.
Luciferrx (EUNE)
: They can say whatever they want.But s9 i saw tons of ex diamonds players stuck in gold. Its a clown fiesta.And evryone knows it.Just soy boys that defend riot as usual are here.
: > [{quoted}](name=Glennplank,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=stUzyYsE,comment-id=000d,timestamp=2019-08-16T01:59:49.887+0000) > > Riot are PC. So everything might be offensive nowadays. u know there is a way to make the pc alive if all people just charge backtheir money and crash riot
PC = political correct.
: > [{quoted}](name=Lynxmetal,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=siGO9avz,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2019-08-15T20:43:26.153+0000) > > I've taken a break from ranked because I'm genuinely so sick of it man. Started maining jungle again and legit I had every lane lose completely alone in the first 5 minutes and start blaming me for not ganking. Top died twice in a minute, bot got double killed at level 2. Mid solo killed three times. Then my ad just starts running about the jungle taking camps. It's unbelievable man, I climbed to Plat a few years ago, but at the moment I'm just constantly jumping between Gold 1 and 2. > But yeah people genuinely don't seem to give a crap in ranked anymore. I downloaded an app that lets me see player's experience on champs in the loading screen, and the amount of times I get someone that has played 1-2 games on that champ and has decided to take it to ranked is unreal. I had a bot a few days ago that admitted he was first time Jhin and third time Pyke. Obviously I didn't even bother going bot all game and they couldn't understand why. > Ranked is a sh*theap at the moment. Players get banned so much because of trolls etc. That others are starting to show this behavior also, not caring cause it's my xxxth account. The bans have lost people their interest for their accounts. Gg rito
It's really sad how Riot thinks being toxic is worse than trolling. I've lost so many ranked games due to trolls rarely 'cause of flame. When people flame or spam ping, I just mute them. But it's kinda hard ignoring trolls or people going afk. Yet the once flaming are punished harder.
Asiaomo (EUNE)
: Perma ban
Riot are PC. So everything might be offensive nowadays.
MrJossy (EUW)
: Chat restricted for arguing about xerath support?
Riot sees everything as flame. Best to just shut up and smile.
Hansiman (EUW)
: > I rarely play a single game now when no one flames. I actually do that often. However, if you look at the pure numbers, you should encounter at least one toxic player rather often. Roughly 5% of the community is toxic enough that it warrants a ban. Since a game usually has 10 players, that means that you should encounter one of these players between every 2-3 matches, just going by numbers. However, that doesn't mean other players can be toxic once in a while. We're all human, and we all let our emotions get the better of us. Most unwanted behavior you encounter do not come from that 5% of players, but the 95% that's generally well behaved that just happen to step out of line in that one game you encounter them in. So just by looking at the numbers, and how many people you encounter, yes, it's rather likely that you'll frequently see unwanted behavior. --- > And the truth is that if my friend has gotten more than 5 accounts banned and still plays Again, this just paints your friend in a negative picture, rather than the community as a whole. --- > I can't recall all the times players that have typed in-game that they don't care if people report them and they get banned And I can't recall the amount of times I've seen people upset here on boards because their account got banned, and then their logs show that they said exactly that in their games, "report me, I don't care". It's just something they say to get on your nerves, and deter you from reporting. Odds are, they do care.
That's really strange how people like you never seem to get toxic players when you play. Just in the last few days I can't seem to play without toxic players. If I'm lucky I might get on 1 game without it out of maybe 8-10 games. Again, if 1 person does it, others do as well. Sure, it might be. But I know that plenty of them aren't lying. Some have smurf accounts that they can troll on 'cause they don't want their main account banned.
M3GTRDragon (EUNE)
: Lol. Why add me as a friend if you are going to insult me anyway?
'Casue riot wont ban you for that. Happened to a friend of mine. Some player sent him a friend request. My friend accepted it. The player then started to harass my fiend and calling him all sorts of thing. He took prints of this. Sent to riot. What did riot do? Nothing. Because it was outside of a match and just in the client, my friend had himself to blame, seeing how he accepted the friend request.
Hansiman (EUW)
: A single example isn't evidence to suggest something isn't working. Permabans are a last resort towards players that simply refuse to behave. If a person has 5+ accounts banned, and doesn't remotely see that they're the problem, the issue isn't with permabans.
Every game, more or less, is evidence that it doesn't work. I rarely play a single game now when no one flames. Most of the games consists of either toxic players or straight up trolls. And the truth is that if my friend has gotten more than 5 accounts banned and still plays, a lot of others are doing the same thing. I can't recall all the times players that have typed in-game that they don't care if people report them and they get banned, 'cause they are just playing on a smurf account.
Bombario (EUNE)
: Face the truth
Permabans aren't working to stop toxic players. My former stepbrother has had 5 of his own accounts banned, and he has even gotten 2 of our friends accounts banned for being toxic. And now he's leveling up a new account, and I'm pretty sure he will get that banned too. And you know what? He'll just create a new account and still be toxic when playing.
xFrosten (EUW)
: The way that their report system works is basically a placebo. A placebo for you to stay silent, no matter what. The more you talk in the chat the higher the risk you face at being punished. Riot games doesn't care that their system is unfair and broken, and they don't care that sub 40% of their community is probably really toxic.... And the way that they only look at YOU when they make a decision of punishing you... completely disgus****. When you face abusive players you are not even allowed to defend yourself, like honestly....
I'd say it's like 60% or even more that are toxic. I can hardly play a game now without getting toxic players on my team or on the enemy team.
Zedaholic (EUW)
: Riot should start punishing the people that AFK instead of focusing on bad words being said in game.
Sylaelque (EUW)
: It is very extreme so sadly many afk players, feeders, troll pickers and toxic players even in the gold tier. :/
Yeah, it's never ending. Feels like it's just getting worse
Yancer (EUW)
: Why are Yasuo mains often and more flamed than anyone else sometimes without reason too
Maybe 'cause most of the Yasuo mains just dies and dies until they get their items. And by then the game is pretty much lost. Rarely do I actually see good Yasuo players that plays safe and don't go 0/10/0 before doing any dmg.
Rioter Comments
: you think trolls in games like that ever say yes to surrender?
Nope. Just had a ranked game earlier that was lost. I lost lane, bot lost lane, mid lost lane, and jungler was nowhere to be seen. At 15 min we voted to surr, 4 voted yes and of course 1 voted no. Pretty sure it was our jungler that trolled us that game. Refusing to gank lanes. And only afk'd farmed all game. And I also think people enjoy voting no in games like that. They know that it till piss people off.
MSF Akito (EUW)
: The sad truth is: This is not going to change anytime soon. A few days ago someone posted an "experiment" about ingame behaviour. He trolled in every game, he ran it down, he inted on purpose. (He even had a screenshot to prove it). BUT he didnt get a ban, because he didn't type anything in the chat. Funfact: The post got deleted on the same day.. I wonder why? Riot ONLY punishes people who are inting if they are streaming. Everyone else will NOT get any sort of punishment whatsoever. The only thing which will lead to a punishment is being toxic in the chat (this results in a chatban, which is fine..). But inting or trolling on purpose is not something that Riot is going to punish.
The sad truth. :/ But it also shows how PC riot are. Typing bad words are worse than actually making your team lose a game.
: i just had this ranked game screenshot at 15 minutes: https://i.imgur.com/iIn0mTX.png i'm velkoz btw LOVE THIS GAME
Those games happen thanks to riots snowball meta. Riot even had to put in a surrender option at minute 15 thanks to that.
: Man , just think of this , many people say I feed because I have bad games sometimes and they report me , meanwhile I try explaining them that I just have a bad game.... What if I get banned?{{champion:202}}
Riot can easily see if someone ints or is just having a bad game. Some players even type that they are gonna make you lose or that they are gonna straight up feed.
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