TiJota (EUW)
: My friend told me that she already apears in the chmapions unowned but its unplayable , i dind´t have time to read the patch notes
New champions are always added to the champions tab with the patch. That doesn't mean they will be actually released soon.
Salron88 (EUW)
: question for every jungler out there.
I'm not a jungler but i know that your match up is a losing one and generally speaking, you aren't supposed to gank for losing lanes.Even if you get a head in that match up, you won't be able to do anything to ryze thanks to his good wave clear and ability to kite you. In that match up, you should just prepare and spread your buttcheeks from minute one. It doesn't matter if elise will os him, it gets nothing of real value to your team compared to what she could get from elsewhere.
TiJota (EUW)
: When will Qyana come to the EUW servers ?
: > [{quoted}](name=GonahtanuGepardi,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=HhUzkEFR,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-06-24T18:27:15.532+0000) > > Because that is important information when deciding between people with similar behavior. Not to mention people tend to actually value skill more than behavior unless the behavior is atrocious. If they value skill more than behaviour then they have a misconception of what the honor system is for (and probably can't read...) and including stats would only further this misconception and would encourage people to honor based on skill - which literally defies the point of it. Stayed Cool = nothing to do with skill Shot-calling = you could argue it is semi-skill related, e.g. timing ganks well, but more to do with calling objectives/strategy etc. GG (Team-player/friendly) = not really skill related, could be someone who helped out their team mates, but more just meant for general friendliness.
>If they value skill more than behaviour then they have a misconception of what the honor system is for (and probably can't read...) and including stats would only further this misconception and would encourage people to honor based on skill - which literally defies the point of it. How does it defy the point of it? The 3 categories even you listed are stayed cool/tilt-proof, shotcaller and GG (loved playing with this player). 2 of them are open to interpretation and 1 of them isn't. While you could argue that those 2 are not skill related, i could argue that they aren't related to behavior either. It all depends on point of view. Even the word "honor" itself doesn't translate to good behavior but is closer to stuff like respect. >Shot-calling = you could argue it is semi-skill related, e.g. timing ganks well, but more to do with calling objectives/strategy etc. This one is the 1 that is not open for interpretation. It's 100% skill related category as it has literally nothing to do with behavior. It's a pure aspect of gameplay. >Stayed Cool = nothing to do with skill This one is probably the least skill related out of the 3 but being tiltproof is also a skill and the person who doesn't tilt, don't have to behave well in other ways. He could just remain silent so technically it's not that related to behavior either (but it is more than to skill, i agree here). >GG (Team-player/friendly) = not really skill related, could be someone who helped out their team mates, but more just meant for general friendliness. The "friendly" part is not correct as it doesn't state that anywhere. It's GG/loved playing with this player (that's what it says if you leave the end game lobby too fast and get the honors retroactively). This one is completely in the eyes of the player who gives the honor. You can love playing with a friendly person or you can love playing with a good player (I mean prefer one over the other). It's not at all behavior related when it comes to players like me who value skill in teammates more than their behavior unless their behavior is actually trolling. So as we can see, there is overall more weight on skill than on behavior.
: Why are their stats relevant?
Because that is important information when deciding between people with similar behavior. Not to mention people tend to actually value skill more than behavior unless the behavior is atrocious.
: i was talking about milkrogane
: That's the point. And still some times somebody wouldn't leave spawn and remake would not appear.
Well that comes from the stupid fact that the game knows if someone is trying to reconnect so it starts the timer all over again instead of waiting for them to actually reconnect.
: I got option to remake while i was campin on lane as velkoz in bush. I got leave buster for that. https://imgur.com/0NCkx65
Then you didn't move for over 90 seconds and that's called afking, not camping.
: yeah dude Thats what happened when u r a iranian or ur just living in iran AND "**RIOT TEAM**" i want u to know "clearlyyyyyyy thats not my fault ok?" I just want to play league man wtf Im like **whyyyyy??!?!?!?!?!??!?** when i saw **they banned iranian IPs in every single server** _ i have 3 account in EU west and 1 in NA I watch NB3,SRO,Tyler1,RTO,Redmercy . . . prrety much every thing is related to league then RIOT GAMES do this awkward action from my "first favorite game" BTW _ they probably not gonna unban iraninan IPs, i use to play with **90 ping in EU** and now if i want to play League i must use a VPN :D and play with **160 ping** at least **I just want to ask a simple question guys ** : what would u do if u wake up and see the whole world is against u and u cant even play a F game, lame **u judge ...**
It's not Riot's idea. They have to follow the law.
: That's not how bans work, those are punishments for breaking the rules that completely blocks an account from playing. All their accounts are still up and not banned. It's only the IP of those countries isn't allowed to connect due to US laws. In other world, they can use a VPN and play without a problem since their accounts aren't banned.
>That's not how bans work, those are punishments for breaking the rules that completely blocks an account from playing. That's still a ban though by the definition of the word "ban". A ban is a formal or informal prohibition of something, which this very much is.
: ***
Why are you replying this to me? I obviously know what i'm talking about. And i do google stuff when i don't know about something before i comment. And I never said arab and iranian are the same thing... You are giving your culture a bad reputation with this kind of behavior.
Aezander (EUW)
: To be fair the Crusades could be easily called the *Jihad* of the Christian world, in the militaristic sense of the word. And as unfortunate as it is, whatever meaning *jihad* originally had, it was made popular as the equivalent of a "holy war" that is to be waged against the "unbelievers", and thus it will remain for years to come. Same thing as the term "lesbian" that was completely taken out of context and molded to another use, disregarding it's original meaning.
>To be fair the Crusades could be easily called the Jihad of the Christian world, in the militaristic sense of the word. You are kinda just repeating what i just said. >And as unfortunate as it is, whatever meaning jihad originally had, it was made popular as the equivalent of a "holy war" that is to be waged against the "unbelievers" The word means striving or struggling in a religious context. This holy war thing IS its original meaning. >Same thing as the term "lesbian" that was completely taken out of context and molded to another use, disregarding it's original meaning. It wasn't taken out of context at all and it didn't have any other original meaning. The same word can have multiple meanings. The term "lesbian" refers to a person born in the isle of lesbos but it also means a woman attracted to another woman. Nothing like the word "gay" that actually changed its meaning.
: Nah, people says its terrorism .
To be fair though, a crusade would be considered terrorism in this day and age too. And what "people" say doesn't change what it is actually known for. Get your negativity elsewhere.
: Cant find your other comment, so im gonna reply here: You make three arguments for the ban to be deserved and while one makes some sense, the other two surely dont. Yes, he should have told them in lobby - but should he? Sivir already had picked (and unknowingly picked an adc that can solo decently). If botlane would be something like a vayne who cant clear waves and is easy to dive id see your point - but sivir might even have picked sivir if she knew she had to solo. Your next point is that his team begged him to change the strat. But we all have been begged to do stupid stuff by our team ("stop splitting" as nasus, "pls gank top i need kills" by a 0/6 fiora or "get drake" when enemy laners had priority are just a few personal highlights). We rightfully ignored our team in those momentes. And we never got banned for it. And your last point outright confuses me. Riot stated numerous times that the number of reports DO NOT MATTER. In his first GDC-Talk Lyte proudly announced that while - strange coincidence - Teemo gets reportet very often, Teemos do not get banned more often than other Champions. He used this example to proof that the system (it was the tribunal back then) worked and making other people angry is not bannable per se. Now suddenly the number of reports are enough to justify a ban?
>And your last point outright confuses me. Riot stated numerous times that the number of reports DO NOT MATTER. Sure but when riot said that, they meant in a single game. If you get reported way more often than the average person over a longer period of time (or more games), you will get punished. The singed case is a perfect example because this is what happened to him. The teemo players do not get reported THAT much more and not by multiple people in a single game. Just some salty individuals.
: Dude you know nothing. Can you just shut up ? "Jihad" . This word is known for u as "terrorism" . But its another meaning . Stop bullying arabs and get a life .
Known as terrorism? what, no... It's basically just their version of crusade.
: > It's good that you acknowledge > this little discussion ends here > Have a good day. Ah, nice runnig away. I think, we score a fail here. Come back when you find anything more rational than "I say so". Bye-bye.
Yes, you scored a fail. All the information you ever needed was right under your nose but you are willfully ignorant so you refuse to take that information and say you are right unless all the information is spelled out for you. I'm not here to teach you how these things work. I'll let someone else with more time to do that. You refused to answer my legit question and yet you are saying i'm running away? pathetic...
: > Tell me, what would happen if azir was balanced around low elo instead of high elo? That should be enough to see the flaws of balancing around low elo players. I can tell you that as soon as I see real solid data. > It's common sense really, but i guess common sense is not that common I.e. that's your idea of what should happen. I see.
>I can tell you that as soon as I see real solid data. It's good that you acknowledge you don't have the necessary knowledge or skill to realize what would happen. That should also then make you realize why you are not eligible to talk about balance in a serious manner. >I.e. that's your idea of what should happen. I see. A fact, not an idea. Apparently you have ran out of valid arguments so i guess this little discussion ends here. Have a good day.
: > Funny thing is though that the game is actually more "fun" for the majority when it's balanced around high elo, not low elo. Any proofs? Any solid data?
Every competitive game in existence is the proof. It's common sense really, but i guess common sense is not that common. It's not something i have to prove. Tell me, what would happen if azir was balanced around low elo instead of high elo? That should be enough to see the flaws of balancing around low elo players.
: > Silver and gold aren't really considered in balance like this. Below gold you have >50% of the playerbase. If the game is unfun in every other case, then there's no reason to play it. > A clever enemy doesn't use qss before morde ults unless there are multiple big threats that can be handled with qss. and a very clever Morde will cooperate with his ally so that an enemy spends his QSS for something else, and then Morde ults. C'mon! Do you even realise that it is an argument of ultimate shield and ultimate spear? I.e. pointless. ALL cases of Morde's ulti fall into one of two large bins: a banished opponent either can beat Morde in nether realm, or he can't (QSS falls into the bin of "can" cases, naturally). If Morde ults someone who can, then there's no reason to ulti. If Morde ults someone who can't, then he just gets more fed. Either you're behind and stay there, or you're ahead and snowball further. Same as in the whole game, i.e. your ulti only keeps the status quo, changing almost nothing in the fight between you and your adversary. The only case where ult changes anything is team cooperation. You can take your enemy from his support, or take a tank away from his damage dealer, or you can remove mass CC caster (like Malphite). The bad thing here is that you also remove yourself from the fight, and therefore you should always remove an opponent that is more important than you (or the one you can quickly kill, but why bother then). Which is... strange. Being a top carry, you've got practically no reason to go the nether realm: you make your team short of their strongest player. And being well behind, you need the team to help you win fights, which means you also don't want to go there. If only to sacrifice yourself... But you won't resurrect like Aatrox could. You see, if the purpose of the ulti was to remove the team cooperation, then you could achieve it via a lot of different means. For example you could banish a champion away without going with him. Or maybe you could cast a new kind of cc that makes him immune to heals, shields, buffs from his allies. Or it could be "disarm" + "silence" for 7 seconds. It could be anything! And nether realm doesn't look like the most clever decision here. And if the purpose of Morde's ulti was something else, then I do not see, what it could be. PS: you know what this banishing reminds me of? Old Urgot's ulti. The one they removed on rework.
>Below gold you have >50% of the playerbase. If the game is unfun in every other case, then there's no reason to play it. Funny thing is though that the game is actually more "fun" for the majority when it's balanced around high elo, not low elo. So it simply doesn't matter if the majority of the players are in low elo. All of this speculation about morde here isn't very accurate because he is a split pusher so it's not ideal most of the time to group with his team. My point was related to a situation where he is simply force to group up and there it's a completely valid argument.
: Excuse me? you compare assassin and fighter who literally need to come on your face to kill you and hard to master with a champion like malzahar or mordekaiser or oh yeah maybe hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm VELKOZ WITH HIS 24/24POKE AND HIGH DMG? right? hehe
morde is a juggernaut that builds tanky and a bit of ap. So can't blame ap items. Malzahar is a wave clear mage and his ult is what makes him good, not ap items. He doesn't even deal much damage before 3 whole items. Vel'koz deals damage mostly with his base stats, not with items. So what is your problem exactly? Clearly not the ap items.
: > QSS removes his ult Doesn't change anything. Clever Morder ults when QSS on cooldown. Or he ults someone without QSS (maybe in pro play 5xQSS is possible, but not in silver-gold.). > Except you can use it in a fight to get rid of someone strong so your team can win a 4v4. I.e. give another free kill to the enemy carry and hope like hell that your team can 4 vs 4 without you. Also, the time you buy totally depends on how long you survive.
>Doesn't change anything. It changes A LOT. >Clever Morder ults when QSS on cooldown. A clever enemy doesn't use qss before morde ults unless there are multiple big threats that can be handled with qss. >Or he ults someone without QSS (maybe in pro play 5xQSS is possible, but not in silver-gold.). Yes, someone of not importance which is almost like wasting it. Silver and gold aren't really considered in balance like this. Lack of skill is not the reason to nerf/buff anything. >I.e. give another free kill to the enemy carry and hope like hell that your team can 4 vs 4 without you. If your team can't 4v4, then you have lost already anyway. So taking off the carry from the fight can acctually turn the tides, even if you die in the process. That's actually something you have to do sometimes on other champions as well. Dive in and kill that one person that is carrying the enemy team so your team can clean up and win. It's not even specific to morde but he can do it more reliably with his ult. >Also, the time you buy totally depends on how long you survive. Build in a way that helps you survive long enough. As long as you don't die in a second, it's going to be plently of time. Morde can just build full tank and hold the enemy hostage for up to 7 seconds.
: IMO death realm was not a very clever idea since the beginning. Against those stronger than you it is kinda non-existent (you don't want to duel an opponent who kills you), and against those weaker it is an almost sure kill. And where's fun in that?
>Against those stronger than you it is kinda non-existent (you don't want to duel an opponent who kills you) Except you can use it in a fight to get rid of someone strong so your team can win a 4v4. >and against those weaker it is an almost sure kill. QSS removes his ult. Morde still steals the stats from the target so it's not completely useless for him but at least the enemy isn't going to die 100% of the time.
equipoise (EUNE)
: You definitely need a break. Play something else for a while. If you lose the first game of the day and you see something like this happen, dont start next queue. Leave it be. You will grind another day.
Taking a break for the whole day is not ideal. A small break is in order but any longer than that does nothing but hurt your skill level.
: Normal and aram games are generally a lot more friendly than ranked games. I don't think it would be a good idea to flood them with even more negative people to be honest.
>Normal and aram games are generally a lot more friendly than ranked games. Dunno about friendly but the last info we have is from 2016 when riot said ranked had become less toxic than normals. That's still my experience now. I find a lot more toxic people in normals than in ranked. Even if i play in a 4 man premade, the one random somehow always manages to be toxic in some way, even though we aren't doing anything to antagonize him/her and we aren't talking to them unless they are saying something that requires an answer and isn't toxic. But yeah, ranked ban is not a good idea.
: "He needs to have his team's approval, but he can't be banned because his win rate shows he is being serious and effective." why would you need teams approval ? if you want to play yasuo and i hate yasuo players do you ask me for my approval or you just instalock yasuo and dont give a fk? why should he care or need an approval from his team lmao. you do your thing he does his thing and the goal is to win. thats what soloq is. the only time you should ask your team if you could play some niche champ/strat is if you are a pro performing live in lck/lec/lcs etc..
>why would you need teams approval ? if you want to play yasuo and i hate yasuo players do you ask me for my approval or you just instalock yasuo and dont give a fk? No, i wouldn't ask your approval because that is not the same situation. Yasuo is a completely normal pick and nothing out of the ordinary. So it's not out of your expectations about how the game will play out. If i would go full armor yasuo support in the mid lane with you as a mid laner, then i would need your approval in addition to my whole team's approval because that is not a standard play style. > why should he care or need an approval from his team lmao. a) because the game has had a standard play style for years which means players expect to and want to play in a specific way. b) believe it or not, your fun doesn't go over someone else's fun. In these cases, you are most of the time going to be the one ruining the fun for _**more**_ people. Your fun < your teammate's fun. This is also in the summoners code and riot also stated this in the singed case. You are not allowed to "have fun" if your fun ruins the fun for others. It's the majority that matters. >you do your thing he does his thing and the goal is to win. Sure, as long as you don't affect the other persons expectations of how he was going to play the game. If he is playing mid and expects (and wants) it to be a 1v1 lane (junglers ofc act naturally), then you are not allowed to go mid and support him all game and steal his xp and ruin his chances of outplay (the enemy mid will play more passively and there is really no room for kill to happen) without his permission. That's what it means to have standards in the game. Mid is expected to be a solo lane and when someone queues up for it, they want it to be a solo lane (most of the time). >thats what soloq is. No it isn't. > the only time you should ask your team if you could play some niche champ/strat is if you are a pro performing live in lck/lec/lcs etc.. Your soloq teammates are human too. You are not allowed to be a selfish asshat.
: I think you are muss understanding something. They didnt nerf aftershock for tanks and buffed it for mages, it was the other way around. Tanks are way stronger now with aftershock if you compare it to prenerf aftershock. The problem is the base resistances are just too high. I mean come on 70 armor and mr on lvl1? The should just cut the basic resistance you get in half and maybe let it scale better with bonus mr armor and health. Imo this would solve the aftershock abuse on mages
Just make aftershock give more resistances when more enemies are around and make ranged champions gain half the effects or less. That way it doesn't make a champion unkillable when they use one cc in a 1v1.
Memuru (EUW)
: Riot can't really do that this time, since they banned the Teemo. A 2 week ban would be fine this time, along with a warning, which would ofc be of the threat of heavier consequences if he does anything like this again, first of which being loss of partnership.
>Riot can't really do that this time, since they banned the Teemo. That's not relevant at all though. He broke the rules of the partnership which means it needs to be taken away. What happened to teemo is COMPLETELY irrelevant. Even their normal automated punishment system is built around what YOU did wrong that game, not what others did. What others did is completely irrelevant.
Memuru (EUW)
: Thanks for writing such a good response, I really appreciate people discussing this with me. I'd like to have a strong influence on boards, as I'm interested in working with LoL team :D I'm sorry it's not very clear in my original comment but while I'm making a defence for NB3, I completely agree with you! I do believe he should receive punishment, and certainly not get off lighter than a player would. My point, however, is that maybe full-time streamers need to receive different types of punishment. If we're talking about what the severity of the punishment might be, then I strongly believe a written warning for him could be worse than a 2week ban for a normal player. The way I see it, and how I've been made aware that fulltime streamers themselves see it (quoting some who have never really received a penalty) is that if this consideration is not made then it is extremely harsh on the streamers. They are then paranoid about the safety of their careers, as they know that one slip up, or one misinterpretation could destroy everything for them. One day soon there will be a union for streamers for this reason, I may attempt to found one myself. I highly recommend watching the OfflineTV podcast episode that I linked someone else, if you're interested at all in the streamers' perspective. One further point I remind you of is that Riot can ban a toxic player from streaming their game altogether, like they did with Tyler1. Some people are calling for this action here, which I consider a major overreaction, because this incident was in no small part a misunderstanding. I hope that helps clarify my point of view :)
Well that is why i suggested taking off his partnership. It doesn't stop him from playing the game and it's still more effective than just a ban because changing an account makes the ban meaningless for a streamer. Getting a ban doesn't actually destroy the career of the streamer when league is concerned because it has to be an indefinite ban (ban on sight) to actually have an effect on their careers. There are plenty of streamers that have gotten permabans before and that hasn't stopped their careers because they can just make a new account. This is why the punishment has to be something that actually affects them, like taking away the partnership. Being toxic is against the requirements of a partner anyway so it's only natural that it would be taken away from him. By allowing him to continue as a partner, Riot effectively accepts and encourages his type of behavior.
Memuru (EUW)
: Unpopular opinion, but I'm firmly defending NB3 in this, and I'm not even a major fan of his. Please hear me out, I think you'll most likely agree. He definitely gets far too carried away quite often, especially if something triggers him. I selected overreaction in poll however, because tbf seeing a roaming Teemo support would be an automatic trigger for most of us, and that guy playing it is clearly very aware of this fact and is potentially revelling in it lowkey. I strongly believe he needs someone from Riot to tell him personally that his behaviour is out of order, so he can be better. I think anyone would agree that successful streamers like him do deserve to get a personal warning rather than be slapped with a penalty, since he does it full time and a penalty will bear major financial consequences to him. In turn, this may have major impact on him mentally for the duration of the ban. Everyone makes mistakes, and I'm sure he can understand, apologise and improve. Sorry for commenting even though you said to not, but 'should receive a personal written warning' was not one of your options. :) EDIT: Thanks to everyone who is joining this discussion with me. I'm sorry for not being more clear, I do believe that NB3 deserves to be punished - I've decided I would give him a 2 week ban from streaming LoL. Also, knowing more about the Teemo player I fully believe he deserves to be unbanned and should receive apology and compensation from Riot. Btw, I played almost exclusively Teemo support in seasons 4 and 5 :D
> I think anyone would agree that successful streamers like him do deserve to get a personal warning rather than be slapped with a penalty No one agrees with that. In fact, it's the opposite. Streamers should be given harsher penalties than average people because they are "the face of the game". If anything, they are ruining the game's reputation with their behavior if they do not get punished for bad behavior. The game doesn't need a specific streamer. If one goes away, another one takes it's place. Streamers are replaceable and it's not the streamers that make the game survive. They help it to grow faster but they have nothing to do with how well the game does after the initial growth. > since he does it full time and a penalty will bear major financial consequences to him. He can still use other accounts etc. I don't actually want him to get a ban even though he flamed and left the game. I think he needs to have his league partnership revoked. Then he can appeal for it again later. Someone as toxic as him shouldn't be allowed to be league partners. Also, major financial consequences? Who cares? He made a big mistake and has to pay for it like everyone else in any other area of work. Not to mention he definitely has the money to not suffer from something like that. You are basically saying here that it's ok to be toxic and act against the rules if you are a big streamer. However, it should be easier to get punished then. Also his reputation suffers more if he doesn't get punished because this thing will keep growing until he gets a punishment. Imaqtpie got a chat ban and it didn't affect his reputation so people who like him will still watch him. He deserves a punishment though, that isn't even debatable.
WAVenom (EUNE)
: watch video again gonah
I did and there is no indication of any real person manually banning him.
Teahyun (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Blakex13x,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=PqIk0fZE,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-06-15T11:43:01.874+0000) > > i would have done the same to be honest its a cope out people saying support can support anyone we all know support is meant to be on the bot lane with teh support and you can clearly see bot lane lost because sivir could not 1 v 2 like the so called troll thinks, he shouldnt have been in mid and should have been with his adc simple as that the ban was more than deserved people like this thinks its ok and lose matches. i agree. This is why many supports are insufferable. They only look at their net-gain. Maybe his sivir is pro and now gets denied to carry. Maybe his irelia is shit and the strat doesnt work because both tilt and int. Its soloQ and too many factors are there, which is why role selection exists. Its not a pro strat, a pro strat would be to learn how to play a real support and not gamble a game on teammates not tilting for someone having an autism explosion calling it "pro strat" btw the main point is that his entire team tilts and wants him to play properly and he refuses. Basically forcing his stupid sht onto all his teammates. This is also why the lvl1 roaming singed smite support got banned. EVEN if he would have a 80% winrate. The overal negative impact these players have on all their games = toxic. Toxic tilts people , tilt people create more toxic games. addition: you people trying to defend this are also the reason these boards are a fcking joke
There are many aspects to this topic. Yes, Riot's system expects people to play support in the bot lane and you can see this in the champion select where the support role's location is shown in the bot lane. Champions that go mid lane want to be on a solo lane because of the experience advantage that was now denied from irelia. Sivir doesn't do much with levels unlike irelia. Sivir relies more on items. >btw the main point is that his entire team tilts and wants him to play properly and he refuses. Basically forcing his stupid sht onto all his teammates. This is also why the lvl1 roaming singed smite support got banned. If he informs his team about the strat in the champion select and doesn't use it if his team doesn't want to, then it's fine. The singed example communicated at his team, not with his team. That's why he got punished. However, Riot specifically said that the singed player (or anyone like him) will never get permabanned for doing stuff like that. So the teemo is basically safe on that end. >EVEN if he would have a 80% winrate. The overal negative impact these players have on all their games = toxic. This is false. Win rate does play a big part in the start being acceptable. The singed player had less than 50% win rate with his start and he had played hundreds of games like that. The teemo has a very good win rate, meaning he isn't hindering his team like the singed did. He needs to have his team's approval, but he can't be banned because his win rate shows he is being serious and effective. >Toxic tilts people , tilt people create more toxic games. True but it isn't toxic to play off meta if it works. It's toxic to assume the worst and be negative from the start towards a strat like that. His teammates are the toxic ones, not him. >addition: you people trying to defend this are also the reason these boards are a fcking joke I gave arguments for both sides, I hope that's more satisfying. The conclusion still is that this shouldn't be ban worthy in this specific case.
: Fire the riot employee who banned him. nb3 is guilty for flaming and afk
Hard to fire an automated system though :/
Zanador (EUNE)
: Because it's a crowd control but it isn't a debuff that has been placed on you. It just turns off the light around you. Just how you can't cleanse the slowing AOE from Kogmaw and Singed.
>Because it's a crowd control but it isn't a debuff that has been placed on you. Actually it is a debuff. If you have a banshee's veil when nocturne uses ult, you can still see but the veil goes on cd, which makes it a debuff. Even malzahar's passive blocks noc r.
: > [{quoted}](name=GonahtanuGepardi,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=ygeVvVB5,comment-id=0004000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-13T13:14:24.401+0000) > > That isn't enough proof. He could have meant that the poison is simply super hard to see like it sometimes is with some skins and also, there are cases where the poison is invisible without any cheats like for example, the poison is only visible when singed is visible. So if you walk in a bush that has no ward in it, the enemy can't see your poison anymore (a bug that has existed for years and happens every game). I will not show you any proof of it working, I will not guide you on how to do it, I will not give you any links of videos showing that it works, I do not want to put my account in harm. When i used it, it worked and I'm not sure if it still does work after his Q got updated because I will not test it. And no, it it's not the bug in the bush. > False information. I will not stop saying server sided because it's a fact. How about you go to the practice tool and test it right now? I just tested it and i could always use his q so that it would only take the mana once and it left one tick worth of effects. And it was definitely not invisible. Harder to see yes, but not invisible. As a side note, if the program clicks and ability for you, that's scripting and also against the rules. It's one of the worst offenses. His q particle spawns multiple times a second. Even if you managed to pull it off to use only one mana cost, you would have used multiple ticks of it already. So in a sense, you already used multiple ticks. >It is serversided but what the .bat file does it that it blocks the connection to chat specifically. It is not serversided anymore because i blocked the connection :D If it was not serversided, i would be able to edit the text, change the color and delete it, but i can't. Why? Because it's on the f@#!@# server.
>I will not show you any proof of it working, I will not guide you on how to do it, I will not give you any links of videos showing that it works, I do not want to put my account in harm. When i used it, it worked and I'm not sure if it still does work after his Q got updated because I will not test it. I didn't ask you to prove it and i won't ask now either because i KNOW that it didn't work like that. >His q particle spawns multiple times a second. Yes, but i can toggle his q on and off faster than that. I know how his q works and how its animation and particles work. I used one tick. >It is not serversided anymore because i blocked the connection :D If it was not serversided, i would be able to edit the text, change the color and delete it, but i can't. Why? Because it's on the f@#!@# server. Well, this proves that you don't even know what "server sided" means. Let's use something like ezreal's q as an example. Even if you can somehow make it invisible to yourself, others can still see it just fine. Why? because it's server sided. That means the server knows you used that ability and then it will display that ability to other players normally with normal effects. Otherwise your ability wouldn't deal any damage if the server didn't know you used it. So you can't block the visibility of the spells for other players. When it comes to chat. You send a chat message to the server and then the server sends it to all players, including you yourself (that's why if you disconnect and try to type, you can type it but the text doesn't appear on chat before you gain connection again). So no, you can't edit it and that makes it server sided. However, the CONNECTION to the server is not server sided because it's you who fails to connect (or block the connection) to the chat server and not the other way around. I don't know why you are being so defensive about this. I simply clarified things you didn't know, like what you got punished for and how the "cheats" work. No need to be defensive about it. Some people know more about things than you and it's best to just admit it to yourself and not lose hairs for it for no reason.
: > [{quoted}](name=GonahtanuGepardi,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=ygeVvVB5,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2019-06-12T18:02:00.178+0000) > > > Might be invisible to you but not to other players. This information comes from the server so any files you may have touched on your computer doesn't affect the visibility of this ability to others. Sorry if someone had tricked you into believing that this would actually be a thing but it's not. Oh it was 100 % invisible, i remember the enemy tryndamere saying in chat how he can't see my poison, also please stop saying sever sided when it is a game mechanic if you used exactly 1 tick, it is invisible. But a normal human can't do this fast enough, try it, you will at least use twice the mana it costs if not triple before you can toggle the q off. > This is also on the server side, which means the others can see you. The only thing you could somehow do is be disconnected from the chat which means others can't see you on their friends list but they can see you just fine if you are in the same game with them. It is serversided but what the .bat file does it that it blocks the connection to chat specifically. So in a sense, you can't see them and they can't see you. What i meant so say with "they wouldn't see you in-game" is that they can't see you in the client if you were in-game.
>Oh it was 100 % invisible, i remember the enemy tryndamere saying in chat how he can't see my poison That isn't enough proof. He could have meant that the poison is simply super hard to see like it sometimes is with some skins and also, there are cases where the poison is invisible without any cheats like for example, the poison is only visible when singed is visible. So if you walk in a bush that has no ward in it, the enemy can't see your poison anymore (a bug that has existed for years and happens every game). >also please stop saying sever sided when it is a game mechanic if you used exactly 1 tick, it is invisible.But a normal human can't do this fast enough, try it, you will at least use twice the mana it costs if not triple before you can toggle the q off. False information. I will not stop saying server sided because it's a fact. How about you go to the practice tool and test it right now? I just tested it and i could always use his q so that it would only take the mana once and it left one tick worth of effects. And it was definitely not invisible. Harder to see yes, but not invisible. As a side note, if the program clicks and ability for you, that's scripting and also against the rules. It's one of the worst offenses. >It is serversided but what the .bat file does it that it blocks the connection to chat specifically. Which means it's not serversided... If you block your connection to the chat service, then it's not serversided.
: I remember there being a .bat file that you can download to do this. But then again, my previous acc was banned for exploiting. Things used to do on that acc: * double tap W to ward hop with lee sin * invisible singed Q * having the same key for multiple slots on items (i could activate redemption, gunblade, locket, cutlass, botrk, yommus all at once) * going incognito mode (appear offline, they wouldn't see you in-game as well) aka the .bat file. Since riot refused to tell me why i was banned, I can't help you here. You could contact support and ask them if it is okay to do that. Also I can not give you any links because I would violate the rules.
Let me shed some light on why you were banned then. >double tap W to ward hop with lee sin This is a so called combat macro. Combat macros are against the rules. >invisible singed Q Might be invisible to you but not to other players. This information comes from the server so any files you may have touched on your computer doesn't affect the visibility of this ability to others. Sorry if someone had tricked you into believing that this would actually be a thing but it's not. >having the same key for multiple slots on items (i could activate redemption, gunblade, locket, cutlass, botrk, yommus all at once) Same thing as the first one. A combat macro. >going incognito mode (appear offline, they wouldn't see you in-game as well) aka the .bat file. This is also on the server side, which means the others can see you. The only thing you could somehow do is be disconnected from the chat which means others can't see you on their friends list but they can see you just fine if you are in the same game with them.
: Stuns are every champion's weakness, your point is invalid
Different champions can handle cc differently. So no, YOUR point is invalid. As an example, tanks most likely won't die after being hit by a single cc.
: From the trailer, I can tell that she lacks ability to survive. One stun and she done for
Well, that's something that can be said about all assassins (except rengar in certain conditions). Stuns are their weakness and they have high mobility so they can possibly avoid it.
: Because riot can't make assassins and overall damaging champions without DASHES YOOO DUDE STEALTH BRO EXECUTE XDDDDDddDD
Assassins definitely need dashes. That's not even up for a debate. However, stealth and hard cc on top of it is something they shouldn't have. Assassins overall shouldn't have cc... Mobility is one of the things that defines assassins along with high burst damage.
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: Productive use of time. What if he was just having a bad game?
FlameClub (EUNE)
: Why cant i buy for example LPL team pass in EUNE? i dont like EU teams at all !
: > [{quoted}](name=GonahtanuGepardi,realm=EUW,application-id=eZuvYsEr,discussion-id=HT0b2s9o,comment-id=000700010001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-06T15:05:35.310+0000) > > How about you actually give us an example question someone would ask that MUST be answered and can't be answered with pings. There are two comments for that in this thread. Do I really have to pamper you and have to copy them again for you?
Yes because i couldn't find them with a quick glance and i'm not gonna waste more time searching for those hidden questions. So either you give those to me or you admit you don't have any valid arguments and leave.
: If you continue rising the chat ban numbers (this was done before the current system as you see it now was implemented), players would run it down due to frustration, and/or manifest their toxicity in other , more creative ways. And it's not even the same category. Trolling results in an instant 14day, while chat toxicity results in a chat ban. If the things said in the chat are EXTREMELY grave, then yea, you're basically getting your 2nd and last chance, after a 14 day ban. The system works well.
>If you continue rising the chat ban numbers (this was done before the current system as you see it now was implemented), players would run it down due to frustration, and/or manifest their toxicity in other , more creative ways. But that is the major flaw in all this. This whole current system expects chat banned players to become trolls or inters but that's not what a punishment system should do. It shouldn't expect anything. They should only get punished for something they did and not what riot expects them to do. So giving a ban for only verbal toxicity because riot expects them to become trolls/inters shouldn't happen. Only ban when the player actually does those things.
: > [{quoted}](name=Beating a horse,realm=EUW,application-id=eZuvYsEr,discussion-id=HT0b2s9o,comment-id=0007000100010000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-06T13:57:59.482+0000) > > Of course, not having a chat is a bad thing, but doesn't affect the team whatsoever. > > Per say, you're a jungler and your botlane is spam pinging for help. You're 1/4 of your help doing wolfs and you're planning to back after that. > > Now, you can either say "Sorry, can't really gank right now, since I'm low on health" or you can just not say anything, which wouldn't change the fact that you can't gank them. Stop making examples that goes in your direction. Answer thoses which does not.
How about you actually give us an example question someone would ask that MUST be answered and can't be answered with pings?
: It's working.
Can't really say that since they aren't using it so you wouldn't know.
: Emerald Winter Wonder Neeko and chromas availability criteria in the Essence Emporium
>For example, why are base Morgana, Lucian and Blitzcrank chromas not purchasable with BE anymore (rp only)? That's because chromas are on sale depending on when they were released. As an example, currently the chromas that were released between july and december are for sale.
: ye that is probably one of the core challenges, I dont want to force a change in someones persona after thinking about this a few more hours. maybe I will only flex with the high school group as a solution I am fine with, but I dont know how my other mates can deal with our mid laner because they clearly play for fun but his toxic attitude is dragging the mood down and they dont want to leave him alone. thanks for your advice my friends and me are probably going to have a talk about this matter.
>ye that is probably one of the core challenges, I dont want to force a change in someones persona after thinking about this a few more hours. You don't have to change his persona. You just have to tell him that you don't appreciate it and he will most likely adjust his behavior around you. He can still think those things but he can just avoid saying those things. I mean, in my main friend group there are 3 people who either win their lane max 10% of the time or NEVER win their lane. From my perspective (someone who basically always wins his lane and carries the game every single time), you can expect me to get frustrated. However, i do not say anything about it to them. It's mentally draining but i will endure it for the sake of their enjoyment. Instead i will give tips whenever i can in a polite manner. One of my friends is very bad at taking tips and for some reason takes it very negatively though so i have stopped giving him those tips. Your friend might be a bit more dense but i'm sure he cares about what his friends think of him. Just mention it politely and quickly and i'm sure he will try his best to be more pleasant.
: Don't expect Riot to help. Their payment model is based around banning as many accounts as possible in order to push people to buy skins they already paid for. Riot Games has all intentions of %%%%ing you over, and they enjoy doing so.
That wouldn't be a very effective business model.
: every game has someone who flames(usually more than one). Thats a very good proof that people easily get away with toxicity.
No. That just means your definition of toxic is twisted and not accurate. You think someone is toxic when they are not. Ironically, that's a very toxic perspective.
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