: 'They Are Coming' Analyzed: Yes, it's probably a new champion, and heres why.
First thread about this was posted before the 03/14/2015. It's not 4 months but 6 months => http://boards.las.leagueoflegends.com/es/c/creaciones-de-la-comunidad/gELAHNut-dhama-la-fuerza-del-balance
: Would you play Malzahar in SoloQ?
Malz has an ugly hippie pant... Consider that.
Petsho (EUW)
: It started off good, but then it got trolly.
> [{quoted}](name=Petsho,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=oAAopv3l,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-03-30T13:30:50.561+0000) > > It started off good, but then it got trolly. It looks like more humoristically than trolly to me.. But where are the bounds.
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: A small example: A player (main mid, ok in top and jgl) has: {{champion:103}} {{champion:63}} {{champion:55}} {{champion:38}} {{champion:238}} {{champion:112}} {{champion:59}} {{champion:91}} {{champion:17}} {{champion:107}} as playable Champs in Ranked. Now he has to go Bot: So your choice - 1. Current: He plays first time Cait or Leona and tries to do something. 2. Your Idea: You´ll get Teemo ADC or Rengar Supp What do you want? ;) [OFC thats just an example with terrible starting position, but there are enough situations where player´s can choose between total bulls*t or play a Champ first time] You could say: Ok than they need at least 2 Champs for every "Role" to be able to play ranked but, defining a "Role" would enforce a META and Riot said multiple times they wont do that! (OFC they do with every single Patch, but thats another story. ^^)
> [{quoted}](name=Titanium70,realm=EUW,application-id=ln3nNJrX,discussion-id=YaeEuzZf,comment-id=000b,timestamp=2015-03-13T21:48:47.871+0000) > > A small example: > A player (main mid, ok in top and jgl) has: {{champion:103}} {{champion:63}} {{champion:55}} {{champion:38}} {{champion:238}} {{champion:112}} {{champion:59}} {{champion:91}} {{champion:17}} {{champion:107}} as playable Champs in Ranked. > > Now he has to go Bot: > So your choice - > 1. Current: He plays first time Cait or Leona and tries to do something. > 2. Your Idea: You´ll get Teemo ADC or Rengar Supp > > What do you want? ;) > [OFC thats just an example with terrible starting position, but there are enough situations where player´s can choose between total bulls*t or play a Champ first time] > > You could say: Ok than they need at least 2 Champs for every "Role" to be able to play ranked but, defining a "Role" would enforce a META and Riot said multiple times they wont do that! (OFC they do with every single Patch, but thats another story. ^^) Yes, it's a question, but exactly the same than own or not some ADC. Actually you have to own at least 10 champions to play ranked. You acquires those during your leveling phase. I hope you try at least once each, don't you think ? So if a player buys more champions, he'll surely play them. This system assure that his first game after acquisition is a normal game and not a ranked game. Is that so bad ?
Sauas (EUNE)
: What if someone wants to pick something for someone else?
> [{quoted}](name=Sauas,realm=EUNE,application-id=ln3nNJrX,discussion-id=YaeEuzZf,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2015-03-13T20:33:35.577+0000) > > What if someone wants to pick something for someone else? It's the same question as owning or not the Champion. Actually, you cannot pick for someone else if you don't own the champion.
: This was intended before smartcast was a mainstream thing. It happens on: Ahri's Spirit Rush Cassiopeia's Noxious Noxious Blast Fizz's Playful and Trickster Irelia's Transcendent Blades Karthus's Lay Waste.png Lay Waste Riven's Broken Wings.png Broken Wings and Valor.png Valor Urgot's Acid Hunter.png Acid Hunter Vayne's Tumble Yasuo's Steel Tempest Zyra's Rampant Growth Nidalee's Pounce Flash
> [{quoted}](name=A Wild Umbreon,realm=EUW,application-id=ln3nNJrX,discussion-id=p7fHkoW6,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2015-03-13T18:05:02.364+0000) > > This was intended before smartcast was a mainstream thing. It happens on: > Ahri's Spirit Rush > Cassiopeia's Noxious Noxious Blast > Fizz's Playful and Trickster > Irelia's Transcendent Blades > Karthus's Lay Waste.png Lay Waste > Riven's Broken Wings.png Broken Wings and Valor.png Valor > Urgot's Acid Hunter.png Acid Hunter > Vayne's Tumble > Yasuo's Steel Tempest > Zyra's Rampant Growth > Nidalee's Pounce > Flash As I said before, a lot of these are not AOE in an "user define spot". It's disturbing with the Q of Karthus/Cassio because both of them look like a regular AOE. Now, SmartCast is a common thing, maybe Riot should give choice to the players.
Jens Cole (EUNE)
: Can you tell me why would I use this option instead of the usual quickcast? I turned it once and it felt awful (but maybe it's because I didn't notice that I need to hold the key :p).
> [{quoted}](name=Jens Cole,realm=EUNE,application-id=ln3nNJrX,discussion-id=p7fHkoW6,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2015-03-13T16:04:30.045+0000) > > Can you tell me why would I use this option instead of the usual quickcast? I turned it once and it felt awful (but maybe it's because I didn't notice that I need to hold the key :p). It's all about feeling. But I like to display areas and ranges of my spells, it help me a lot. especially when I have to play with edges (Like with Veigar, RIP).
: It's designed to work like that because the designer of those Champions deemed it necessary. For example Karthus can use his Q without any CDR once in a second, making it pretty weird to use without smartcast. If i remember correctly Cassiopeia's Q wasn't auto smartcast back in S2, the last time i played without smartcast. Maybe they changed that with her rework? In most cases where abilities have auto smartcast the ability has a rather low CD (1-2s) or are more useful if cast immediately. Other abilities are: Ahri's R, Fizz' E, Irelia's R, Riven's Q and E, Vayne's Q, Yasuo's Q, Zyra's W, Nidalee's W and Flash
> [{quoted}](name=Fume Knight,realm=EUW,application-id=ln3nNJrX,discussion-id=p7fHkoW6,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2015-03-13T15:40:11.873+0000) > > It's designed to work like that because the designer of those Champions deemed it necessary. For example Karthus can use his Q without any CDR once in a second, making it pretty weird to use without smartcast. If i remember correctly Cassiopeia's Q wasn't auto smartcast back in S2, the last time i played without smartcast. Maybe they changed that with her rework? In most cases where abilities have auto smartcast the ability has a rather low CD (1-2s) or are more useful if cast immediately. > Other abilities are: Ahri's R, Fizz' E, Irelia's R, Riven's Q and E, Vayne's Q, Yasuo's Q, Zyra's W, Nidalee's W and Flash But except Flash which is not a Champion ability, all of these abilities are not AOE which can be lauched at some random spot (within a range). All implied a dash, and Yasuo's Q is more like an aura with a stick shape than a skillshot, but still an aura at a static place, in front of Yasuo (and during the special Q, max range circle is displayed). Maybe the design for this 2 spells is not right... :\
Derezz3d (EUW)
: smart cast by design because faster is better
> [{quoted}](name=Derezz3d,realm=EUW,application-id=ln3nNJrX,discussion-id=p7fHkoW6,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2015-03-13T14:45:43.786+0000) > > smart cast by design > > because faster is better Yes but, there is no reason to not let the choice to players, no ?
: Upvoted now, as I liked the main idea :) I'd also suggest changing the amount of games you need to play from 10 to 5, as 10 seems a bit too much in my opinion. I believe that 5 games are enough to grasp the basics of **most** champions, and usually people won't play ranked anyways with a champion they are not comfortable with.
> [{quoted}](name=C 0 o k 1 3,realm=EUW,application-id=ln3nNJrX,discussion-id=YaeEuzZf,comment-id=000700000000,timestamp=2015-03-13T14:25:50.997+0000) > > Upvoted now, as I liked the main idea :) > > I'd also suggest changing the amount of games you need to play from 10 to 5, as 10 seems a bit too much in my opinion. > > I believe that 5 games are enough to grasp the basics of **most** champions, and usually people won't play ranked anyways with a champion they are not comfortable with. Actually, I said one victory at least, not 10 ! I don't know why this idea persist in this thread ! ^^
Good Be3r (EUW)
: [Bug?] Karthus Q and Cassiopea Q are NOT intuitive at all
Can we upvote this thread to give it some visibility ?
: > Summoners have to train 10 champions in **Normal Draft** Mode to unlock ranked games. I downvoted this just for this part. Why, you may ask. **Normal draft is no better than blind pick when it comes to learning new champions!** Oh, wait, blind pick is actually better for this purpose, as in draft pick, it's quite likely that the champion you wanted to play will get banned if it's one of those 'op champions'.
> [{quoted}](name=C 0 o k 1 3,realm=EUW,application-id=ln3nNJrX,discussion-id=YaeEuzZf,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2015-03-13T14:01:45.004+0000) > > I downvoted this just for this part. > > Why, you may ask. **Normal draft is no better than blind pick when it comes to learning new champions!** Oh, wait, blind pick is actually better for this purpose, as in draft pick, it's quite likely that the champion you wanted to play will get banned if it's one of those 'op champions'. You right on this. I'd edited my first post in this direction.
Kolfin (EUW)
: > The leveling is NOT enough to play good enough. Yeah, that's why there are bronze, silver, gold, platine and diamond tiers in ranked. > Not because I didn't understand Last-Hit, the meta or others general things... Because of my lack of knowledge about Champions. Now I'm Silver 3 again. And it's because I'd train some champions. No, you just played enough rankeds to climb. And stomped players who don't know how their champion / the game works. It doesn't really mean you are "skilled". You just want to have "better teamates" in your ranked game. So you want an other "rule" to avoid some players in ranked. It's useless.
> [{quoted}](name=Kolfin,realm=EUW,application-id=ln3nNJrX,discussion-id=YaeEuzZf,comment-id=0001000100000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2015-03-13T13:57:26.977+0000) > > Yeah, that's why there are bronze, silver, gold, platine and diamond tiers in ranked. > Now I'm Silver 3 again. And it's because I'd train some champions. > > No, you just played enough rankeds to climb. And stomped players who don't know how their champion / the game works. > It doesn't really mean you are "skilled". > > You just want to have "better teamates" in your ranked game. > So you want an other "rule" to avoid some players in ranked. > It's useless. Yes of course I want better teamates... But It's mean nothing, because enemy team would also be better.
Good Be3r (EUW)
: [Bug?] Karthus Q and Cassiopea Q are NOT intuitive at all
I'd love it if it was modified. I don't play Cassiopea because of this.
Kolfin (EUW)
: Normal is unbalanced. AI is too easy and boring. The grind from level 1 is enough, no need to wait more just for ranked soloq. "Ranked spirit", what a joke ...
> [{quoted}](name=Kolfin,realm=EUW,application-id=ln3nNJrX,discussion-id=YaeEuzZf,comment-id=00010001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2015-03-13T13:27:32.742+0000) > > Normal is unbalanced. > AI is too easy and boring. > > The grind from level 1 is enough, no need to wait more just for ranked soloq. > "Ranked spirit", what a joke ... The same MMR system exist for Normal games (but without leagues displayed). I'm a new player (maybe 6 months). And I can say one thing, The leveling is NOT enough to play good enough. After my 10 placement games, I was **Silver 3** (it's a better joke than yours). So I fucked tones of games until I come down **Bronze 3**. Why ? Not because I didn't understand Last-Hit, the meta or others general things... Because of my lack of knowledge about Champions. Now I'm **Silver 3** again. And it's because I'd train some champions. **PS : **The first post was edited, some clarifications was needed.
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Zutha (EUW)
: Silly grinding idea. Married and have kids? forget about playing ranked :) Also, not like a takes 10 games to learn some champs.... take riven/yi for example.
> [{quoted}](name=Zutha,realm=EUW,application-id=ln3nNJrX,discussion-id=YaeEuzZf,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2015-03-13T13:12:54.474+0000) > > Silly grinding idea. > > Married and have kids? forget about playing ranked :) > > Also, not like a takes 10 games to learn some champs.... take riven/yi for example. Stop with this 10 games thing. I never say that. It's obviously too much. (No kids yet, btw)
Kolfin (EUW)
: No, i just grinded from level 1 to level 30 because it's one of the 2 rules to unlock ranked (basically to check your internet connection). Ranked is for everyone, not only for the "goods" players (or in this case "the players who will spam xx champions for yy more hours to have their "master icon").
> [{quoted}](name=Kolfin,realm=EUW,application-id=ln3nNJrX,discussion-id=YaeEuzZf,comment-id=000100010000000000000000,timestamp=2015-03-13T12:57:09.278+0000) > > No, i just grinded from level 1 to level 30 because it's one of the 2 rules to unlock ranked (basically to check your internet connection). > Ranked is for everyone, not only for the "goods" players (or in this case "the players who will spam xx champions for yy more hours to have their "master icon"). But it's not about how good or bad you are... It's about team philosophy and ranked spirit. Most players I know, never play a champion in ranked without tried it in Normal or vs AI first.
Rich (EUW)
: The problem with this for me is that I know I'm good enough to play with the people I'm matched against, I don't pick stupid champions-- But I play a game every other day on average. Forcing me to play at least 10 games with every champion I want to use in ranked, and forcing me to play AT LEAST 100 games to play in ranked at all, is just a stupid idea. If this was implemented I would basically be barred from playing ranked for about a year. Fuck this idea.
> [{quoted}](name=Rich,realm=EUW,application-id=ln3nNJrX,discussion-id=YaeEuzZf,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2015-03-13T11:25:16.054+0000) > > The problem with this for me is that I know I'm good enough to play with the people I'm matched against, I don't pick stupid champions-- But I play a game every other day on average. > > Forcing me to play at least 10 games with every champion I want to use in ranked, and forcing me to play AT LEAST 100 games to play in ranked at all, is just a stupid idea. If this was implemented I would basically be barred from playing ranked for about a year. > > Fuck this idea. Nobody said 10 games, but it's now clarified in the first post.
: No thats stupid af, so many broken things in this: Last pick really really wants his Fizz jungle, a high valuable pick right now. You cannot pick it up for him to trade later on because you didnt play 10 games with fizz yet. you will just handicap your own team and your own champpool
> [{quoted}](name=Koert13,realm=EUW,application-id=ln3nNJrX,discussion-id=YaeEuzZf,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2015-03-13T12:39:58.527+0000) > > No thats stupid af, so many broken things in this: Last pick really really wants his Fizz jungle, a high valuable pick right now. You cannot pick it up for him to trade later on because you didnt play 10 games with fizz yet. you will just handicap your own team and your own champpool From my own experience, players are way better with a known but not OP picks than with a never played OP pick.
Kolfin (EUW)
: I don't play normal because i don't like it. So "i" can't play ranked anymore with your idea ...
> [{quoted}](name=Kolfin,realm=EUW,application-id=ln3nNJrX,discussion-id=YaeEuzZf,comment-id=0001000100000000,timestamp=2015-03-13T11:20:52.495+0000) > > I don't play normal because i don't like it. > > So "i" can't play ranked anymore with your idea ... You play only ranked, but you train Lol through 30lvl right ? Isn't it the same thing ?
: Actually, it's a good idea for partially taking Normal Draft out of its current "trash bin" status.
> [{quoted}](name=Photos of Ghosts,realm=EUW,application-id=ln3nNJrX,discussion-id=YaeEuzZf,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2015-03-13T11:11:34.356+0000) > > Actually, it's a good idea for partially taking Normal Draft out of its current "trash bin" status. I think so. :-)
Zerelous (EUW)
: Meh, sounds boring, you want everyone to go and play 100 games with 10 champions before we can continue to play ranked games?? Yeah, I can really see that one working...
> [{quoted}](name=Zerelous,realm=EUW,application-id=ln3nNJrX,discussion-id=YaeEuzZf,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2015-03-13T11:06:51.457+0000) > > Meh, sounds boring, you want everyone to go and play 100 games with 10 champions before we can continue to play ranked games?? Yeah, I can really see that one working... Becauses **logs** and **statistics** exist, it's easy to do something retroactive. I bet, Riot could easily recover data from the beginning of the game.
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: Tell here your most hated champions
{{champion:74}} : Make laning annoying as fuck, imo this champion just not fit in LoL. {{champion:75}} : Annoying laning. {{champion:92}} : Broken in soloQ
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