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: > I bet you any money if this was a 1v1 game thoes people would flame their self. Okay, give me all your money, because literally all they do in 1v1's is to flame their 1v1 opponent or to blame the champion picks or the game. People aren't picky about what they flame or blame as long as it is not the one thing responsible or causing the problems: themselves.
> [{quoted}](name=Stahlvormund,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=b87rvjEL,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2020-01-12T12:49:44.127+0000) > > Okay, give me all your money, because literally all they do in 1v1's is to flame their 1v1 opponent or to blame the champion picks or the game. > People aren't picky about what they flame or blame as long as it is not the one thing responsible or causing the problems: themselv I play fighting games, i have never flamed the opponent? There are no teammates to flame.
Rioter Comments
Ch0pCh0p (EUW)
: Chat restriction for this (with chat log)
If Riot was a country we would have death row and create wars. oh wait...
Griaule (EUNE)
: Permabanned for this?
there perma ban system is a %%%%ing joke. i got perma banned for something very similar. apparently only 0.006% of players get perma banned. every time i check these forums someone one perma banned and i have friends who have also been banned. This is just ridicules.
Semaka (EUW)
: > I got reported for 2 games out of 120 that would make my report rate at lower than 2%? so why is it that i have been perma banned for my 2% yet my 98% has not been accounted for? Like in real life, you can be a model citizen all your life, get a good education, donate to charity, help old ladies cross the street. Then one day you decide to rob a store, or a bank. Maybe because you were a model citizen, you will get off with a fine and some working hours for the community (that is the 14 day ban). Then after that you go and rob a store. You will go to jail (perma ban). So, in a way, it doesn't matter if you played for 10 years and you have been a model player on the rift. You snapped twice, you got banned. Simple. The thing is, you didn't snap only once, you did it many times. That is why you got to the perma ban.
> [{quoted}](name=Semaka,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=pf7IJnGF,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2020-01-11T01:12:10.694+0000) > > Like in real life, you can be a model citizen all your life, get a good education, donate to charity, help old ladies cross the street. Then one day you decide to rob a store, or a bank. Maybe because you were a model citizen, you will get off with a fine and some working hours for the community (that is the 14 day ban). Then after that you go and rob a store. You will go to jail (perma ban). > > So, in a way, it doesn't matter if you played for 10 years and you have been a model player on the rift. You snapped twice, you got banned. Simple. > > The thing is, you didn't snap only once, you did it many times. That is why you got to the perma ban. robbing and having an argument with someone are 2 different things, heck in the UK if i was to threaten to kill someone the police just take that as "heat of the moment" argument and let it go.
manolis201 (EUNE)
: I got honored 60-80% of my games LUL bruh honors dont matter to save you from a perma ban or suspension.
> [{quoted}](name=manolis201,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=pf7IJnGF,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2020-01-11T05:30:39.466+0000) > > I got honored 60-80% of my games LUL bruh > honors dont matter to save you from a perma ban or suspension. What I am trying to get at is that I am well behaved 98% of my games.
: So maybe he was a bad player, so what ? Being bad at the game does not mean he can't play it and it does not give you a free pass to verbally harrass him. What were you even trying to achieve by that ? If he really was bad, do you honestly expect your flaming would somehow magically be able to change him into a good player ? Of course you did not expect that, you were just taking out your frustration on him. Which is exactly why you deserve that ban.
> [{quoted}](name=LootAndPillage,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=bYEqMgA7,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2020-01-11T08:51:49.717+0000) > > So maybe he was a bad player, so what ? > Being bad at the game does not mean he can't play it and it does not give you a free pass to verbally harrass him. > > What were you even trying to achieve by that ? If he really was bad, do you honestly expect your flaming would somehow magically be able to change him into a good player ? Of course you did not expect that, you were just taking out your frustration on him. > > Which is exactly why you deserve that ban. It's notyour concerned what I was trying to do, you dont simply give out perma bans just becuase I got into an argument with a player.
: your banning system is DOGSH!T
Stealing and having a go at someone are 2 different things mate. You can do better than that
Shamose (EUW)
: _Toxic person who got banned for being toxic thinks system that banned him is dogshit_
> [{quoted}](name=Shamose,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=pf7IJnGF,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2020-01-11T01:05:23.064+0000) > > _Toxic person who got banned for being toxic thinks system that banned him is dogshit_ telling someone there bad is not perma ban worthy.
Rioter Comments
Arcade Lulu (EUNE)
: Well how do you want riot to manage the community then? Just let people break the rules? Riot's game, their rules
> [{quoted}](name=Arcade Lulu,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=0KY9ZY2x,comment-id=00010000000100000000,timestamp=2020-01-11T00:19:58.399+0000) > > Well how do you want riot to manage the community then? > Just let people break the rules? > > Riot's game, their rules We make riot for what they are. with out us they are nothing.
Semaka (EUW)
: Trust me, all who flame, will get punished. It's what Riot does best.
> [{quoted}](name=Semaka,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=0KY9ZY2x,comment-id=00010000000000000001,timestamp=2020-01-11T00:17:30.044+0000) > > Trust me, all who flame, will get punished. It's what Riot does best. rito can go suck my ass, calling someone a dustbin bag gets you banned, LMAO. %%%% me world is coming to an end.
: > [{quoted}](name=HairyGorilla,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=0KY9ZY2x,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2020-01-11T00:08:57.847+0000) > > so telling someone is bad is a ban-able offence? then you my friend is a special snowflake who has never taken a good old beating from your parents or bullies, i bet your parents always said you was a winner even if you came at last place. maybe not, but calling me clinically insane, stuped dumbbss mofo and braindead trashcan maybe is
> [{quoted}](name=Setsunaikii,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=0KY9ZY2x,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2020-01-11T00:10:13.017+0000) > > maybe not, but calling me clinically insane, stuped dumbbss mofo and braindead trashcan maybe is sorry lets go cut out my tongue for calling you such offensive words like trashcan and dumb dumb.
KuroCorbeau (EUNE)
: Bruh you were hella toxic in these logs. You do kinda deserve that one. Flaming means you get banned, not flaming means you won't get banned. Simple as that. Also u probably already had a 14-day ban before which was your last chance to stop that behavior, so it's not like riot didn't warn you. After a first ban u gotta sit down and think about what u are doing wrong instead of blaming the company for not putting up with toxic behavior.
> [{quoted}](name=KuroCorbeau,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=bYEqMgA7,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2020-01-11T00:10:26.086+0000) > > Bruh you were hella toxic in these logs. You do kinda deserve that one. Flaming means you get banned, not flaming means you won't get banned. Simple as that. Also u probably already had a 14-day ban before which was your last chance to stop that behavior, so it's not like riot didn't warn you. After a first ban u gotta sit down and think about what u are doing wrong instead of blaming the company for not putting up with toxic behav "bruh" your telling me that telling someone who is bad at the game and telling him to play something else is banable? have you always been a winner in your life without winning or something you sound like a special snowflake. i guess you have never been flamed in your life.
: > [{quoted}](name=HairyGorilla,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=0KY9ZY2x,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2020-01-11T00:03:57.834+0000) > > riot banning system is a %%%%ing joke mate, do us all a favour and stop playing and supporting this game. The game in its essence its fun, i just wonder why Riot decides to support such a toxic enviroment, i want them to go full banhammer mode even if it means lossing my acount
> [{quoted}](name=Setsunaikii,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=0KY9ZY2x,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2020-01-11T00:05:51.006+0000) > > The game in its essence its fun, i just wonder why Riot decides to support such a toxic enviroment, i want them to go full banhammer mode even if it means lossing my acount so telling someone is bad is a ban-able offence? then you my friend is a special snowflake who has never taken a good old beating from your parents or bullies, i bet your parents always said you was a winner even if you came at last place.
: What am i supposed to do in these situations?
riot banning system is a %%%%ing joke mate, do us all a favour and stop playing and supporting this game.
Rioter Comments
Semaka (EUW)
: > when league dies down which it will and has slowly declined over the years People have been saying that for 7-8 years now, mostly banned people. Yet their player base grows every year. Not only that, but they are developing even more games now. Eventually League will die, like everything on this planet.
> [{quoted}](name=Semaka,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=bYEqMgA7,comment-id=000000000001000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2020-01-10T23:24:01.642+0000) > > People have been saying that for 7-8 years now, mostly banned people. Yet their player base grows every year. > > Not only that, but they are developing even more games now. Their income will rise also. > > Eventually League will die, like everything on this planet. League is 100% dieying, i have been playing since season 3 and since season 6 i have been experience 3-5 min queues in gold elo, and gold elo has the highest amount of player base. back in the day games never took longer than a minute. and we are talking about days when the old roles system was laid out and no one wanted to play support. (not the days when people typed there role but the first ever "choose your role before you queue) oh talking about supports, realise how they made supports so that they can deal as much damage as solo laners? made players switch to support roles to lower queue times yet we still get 3-5 minute queues. you can also tell by their targeted skins, they usually make skins that sell well like yasuo, akali, irelia, riven and so on, these skins sell because people enjoy playing these flashy champions and want their cool looking skin, but yet they make new skins for other champions that are not played often, very rarely. this indicates milking the consumers which further indicates we need more money to cover our loses. on another note, i have played 150 games including my smurf in 1 month!!! i have only flamed about 5 of these games 2 of which got me a 14 day ban and a perma ban. The banning system is broken. if i had spaced out my games maybe 3 games a day i would have gotten a 14 day ban. so i have been punished for playing more games than your average person. %%%% riot. they can kiss my ass.
Semaka (EUW)
: Blizzard's rules. Riot has its own rules. And everyone who flames, will get banned. It's fairly simple. If this would have been your first time being toxic, I'm sure you wouldn't have gotten even a chat ban. But you had your last warning when you had the 14 day ban. You should have taken that very seriously.
> [{quoted}](name=Semaka,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=bYEqMgA7,comment-id=0000000000010001000000000000,timestamp=2020-01-10T23:12:29.156+0000) > > Blizzard's rules. Riot has its own rules. And everyone who flames, will get banned. It's fairly simple. If this would have been your first time being toxic, I'm sure you wouldn't have gotten even a chat ban. But you had your last warning when you had the 14 day ban. You should have taken that very se I honestly cant be arsed to waste any more of my energy to a happy trigger company who permanently bans people for idiotic things. even there 14 day bans are over the top. when league dies down which it will and has slowly declined over the years , they will come and lick our asses and i said it here first that when league dies these bans wont be as harsh as they are now. right now they can afford to loose a few players. League has realy put me off player vs player games and to be frank even though i am extremely upset that my 8 year account with sooooo many hours got banned i am also great full that it is now gone so i can move onto something else.
Semaka (EUW)
: > **I am all for punishing bad behaviour** but this is just absurd. **yes i might have acted badly and my behaviour was not friendly** Then you agree that you were banned correctly. You had your warnings, this is not your first punishment, you should have stopped after the 14 day ban.
> [{quoted}](name=Semaka,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=bYEqMgA7,comment-id=000000000001000000000000,timestamp=2020-01-10T23:10:23.183+0000) > > Then you agree that you were banned correctly. > > You had your warnings, this is not your first punishment, you should have stopped after the 14 day ban. no i am not agreeing i got banned correctly. I am saying that i spoke out in an unfriendly way and pointed out his mistakes. do you think its okay to perma ban someone for debating if there bad or not? do you think i just wrote to him with out him replying back to me?
Semaka (EUW)
: You are confusing this with a democratic country. This is not a democracy. This is a private company and you play by its rules, rules that you agreed to follow.
> [{quoted}](name=Semaka,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=bYEqMgA7,comment-id=00000000000100010000,timestamp=2020-01-10T23:05:16.112+0000) > > You are confusing this with a democratic country. This is not a democracy. This is a private company and you play by its rules, rules that you agreed to follow. everyone flames, even the ones that stay quite... rules are rules but the i believe i don't deserve a perma ban, on blizzard games you get a chat restriction for x amount of days. you dont get perman bans.
Semaka (EUW)
: > I mean, it isn't an instant perma ban. You'd get a 10 game chat restriction for that. But you've had a 14 day ban before, right? So the next punishment step is a perma ban Not only that, but what people forget is that after the 14 day ban, you are a high priority target for the system. Even a little hint of toxicity and you will get banned. You've got your warnings, now the system acts like a predator on steroids.
> [{quoted}](name=Semaka,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=bYEqMgA7,comment-id=0000000000010000,timestamp=2020-01-10T23:01:02.435+0000) > > Not only that, but what people forget is that after the 14 day ban, you are a high priority target for the system. Even a little hint of toxicity and you will get banned. You've got your warnings, now the system acts like a predator on steroids. I am all for punishing bad behaviour but this is just absurd. yes i might have acted badly and my behaviour was not friendly but i am still human and got triggered that our jungler was trolling. chat restrictions were very effective and i remember getting this once in a while and i would try not to get them again. a 14 ban does shiit and a perma ban is just going to keep people away. they say only a small percentage are perma banned but i have 4 friends who have been perma banned. im guessing it is alot more. i had every fuucking champion and alot of skins on the account and there all gone because i told someone there bad... **i feel like i have been issued a death sentence for arguing with someone. **
Arcade Lulu (EUNE)
: Why should they remove the chat system just because some people can't behave? I mean, it isn't an instant perma ban. You'd get a 10 game chat restriction for that. But you've had a 14 day ban before, right? So the next punishment step is a perma ban
> [{quoted}](name=Arcade Lulu,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=bYEqMgA7,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2020-01-10T22:57:42.708+0000) > > Why should they remove the chat system just because some people can't behave? > > I mean, it isn't an instant perma ban. You'd get a 10 game chat restriction for that. But you've had a 14 day ban before, right? So the next punishment step is a perma ban so its okay to perma ban a account just because i told someone how bad they are at the game? what is this america? where people get shot for jay walking, oh wait....
Arcade Lulu (EUNE)
: Maybe you should stop being toxic? On your 14 day ban reform card it CLEARLY said that the next offense would lead to a permanent suspension
> [{quoted}](name=Arcade Lulu,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=bYEqMgA7,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2020-01-10T22:51:14.524+0000) > > Maybe you should stop being toxic? > > On your 14 day ban reform card it CLEARLY said that the next offense would lead to a permanent suspension Maybe they should remove the chat system. Me telling someone is bad shouldn't be a perma ban. this company is a troll.
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: S3 was fine (the last season when traditional assassins not named LB were actually good, oh I miss those days), but S4 and S5 were some of the most boring seasons we've had. At least when someone oneshots me with a brokenass ability something is happening. S4/5 was literally just u doing whatever for like 50 minutes, then one teamfight and that was it. Nothing u did in the early game mattered since it was pretty much inevitable for things to drag on until late game hit and everyone had 5-6 items. Now u can actually close out a game if u get a lead early.
> [{quoted}](name=Tempest of Flame,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=ABlGB2yi,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2020-01-06T12:36:24.497+0000) > > S3 was fine (the last season when traditional assassins not named LB were actually good, oh I miss those days), but S4 and S5 were some of the most boring seasons we've had. At least when someone oneshots me with a brokenass ability something is happening. S4/5 was literally just u doing whatever for like 50 minutes, then one teamfight and that was it. Nothing u did in the early game mattered since it was pretty much inevitable for things to drag on until late game hit and everyone had 5-6 items. Now u can actually close out a game if u get a lead early. I have to disagree, the TP top plays were really fun. ADC's were relevant and could carry games, top lane bruisers and tanks were balanced. supports actually supported and the best supports knew how to set up kills and peel. control mages and assassins were balanced. tbh it was all round balanced game, the bruiser rework was a bit OP but that got changed a little, saying this bruisers are a lot stronger now then it was back then, a fed bruiser can just walk up to your low armour targets
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ÌnDeed (EUW)
: Riot doesn't give a fk about you, cuz that happens only to minority of the playerbase.
> [{quoted}](name=ÌnDeed,realm=EUW,application-id=eZuvYsEr,discussion-id=QUtu9JAO,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2020-01-06T11:55:54.982+0000) > > Riot doesn't give a fk about you, cuz that happens only to minority of the playerbase. its happening to one of my friends, i get disconnects while he gets spikes in lag
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tudodark00 (EUNE)
: Random disconnects
i get the same problem
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: Agreed , I've noticed the same thing . Main account is p4 , 200 games in, about 54% wr Smurf is over 70% wr, fresh account , hit p3 in about 20 games , quality is much better and could probably keep climbing to p2 at least
> [{quoted}](name=McKuntalds,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=bVfKorVj,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-12-29T13:42:32.131+0000) > > Agreed , I've noticed the same thing . Main account is p4 , 200 games in, about 54% wr > > Smurf is over 70% wr, fresh account , hit p3 in about 20 games , quality is much better and could probably keep climbing to p2 at least Takes so much skill am I right. There is something about low elo players, I thinks all the boosted players are at this range as i see some pretty bad plays for a gold player and then when you see the players in my smurf, i get carried hard sometimes. I had a twitch lvl 1 dive tower in gold 2 elo.... which got me banned for flaming.
Silent Note (EUNE)
: It's not broken, it's called MMR. You've probably been losing a lot on your main, and your MMR is low, that's why you're only gaining 18 lp and you're matched with worse players. On your smurf you've probably had a very high winrate, so you got matched with better players, and you're gaining more. It's literally just how MMR works, there's nothing broken about it.
> [{quoted}](name=Silent Note,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=bVfKorVj,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-12-29T12:35:20.823+0000) > > It's not broken, it's called MMR. > You've probably been losing a lot on your main, and your MMR is low, that's why you're only gaining 18 lp and you're matched with worse players. > On your smurf you've probably had a very high winrate, so you got matched with better players, and you're gaining more. > > It's literally just how MMR works, there's nothing broken about it. so I get penalised through maths and not skill? Sounds about right does it not.
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IzzŸ (EUW)
: > her CC is not reliable Her EQ GUARANTEES her root. That's reliable.
> [{quoted}](name=IzzŸ,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=JB76Ie4z,comment-id=00010000000100000001,timestamp=2019-12-18T18:44:25.874+0000) > > Her EQ GUARANTEES her root. > > That's reliable. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYOk80rF_6Q&t=362s Faker game with Qiyana, watch the game, if you dont feel like watching it look at 21:00 he is stuck in the jungle in a tight area, he is relatively fed and should be in a good place to ulti. if her ulti and cc was so great he would have managed to land it and get kills with his team mate, yet even though his area was favourable for an ulti he and the enemy team was not in the right position to throw the ultimate. she sucks plain and simple. if you watch the whole game you realise that even though she is getting kills she only gets them at certain chances with her team and hardly alone. if you was to ask your self if he was playing with another champion his presence in game would be a lot higher with the same KDA. she is a brain dead champion and the only thing that makes her "HARD" is the stupid requirements to **her position AND the enemy position. ** its like trying to get water and oil to mix with out a bonding agent. once you have the "bonding agent" then she is strong, You can only force a good enemy team out of position with a good team and that is not happening unless your in high elo like diamond or in a premade with plat players. so much for "best assassin in game", assasins can only go into teams fights at certain times, not only does she have to wait for this she also has to wait for the enemy to be near walls. might as well play malphite full AP and pop ulti and win game if i was to play him the same way i do as qiyana.
IzzŸ (EUW)
: "Her ultimate has one of if not the biggest counter play than any other champion." are you forgetting how it interacts with walls? It has enormously LOW counterplay. Your examples are awful as well, Amumu and Malphite are VERY simple TANKS who not only are SUPPOSED to be easy to play, but are also SUPPOSED to have strong CC and not damage. And Oriana's ult is easily HARDER to land so I'm not sure why you've included it. Qiyana is a high skill ASSASSIN; a class that is not SUPPOSED to have strong CC ultimates. It's ok for it to be hard to land - except for the fact that it doesn't matter if you land it, because it still does damage AND CC if it hits a wall. Removing the elements doesn't increase counterplay either, I don't understand what that's supposed to achieve apart from removing what is EASILY the best part of her kit!
> [{quoted}](name=IzzŸ,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=JB76Ie4z,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2019-12-18T18:42:00.521+0000) > > "Her ultimate has one of if not the biggest counter play than any other champion." are you forgetting how it interacts with walls? It has enormously LOW counterplay. > > Your examples are awful as well, Amumu and Malphite are VERY simple TANKS who not only are SUPPOSED to be easy to play, but are also SUPPOSED to have strong CC and not damage. And Oriana's ult is easily HARDER to land so I'm not sure why you've included it. Qiyana is a high skill ASSASSIN; a class that is not SUPPOSED to have strong CC ultimates. It's ok for it to be hard to land - except for the fact that it doesn't matter if you land it, because it still does damage AND CC if it hits a wall. > > Removing the elements doesn't increase counterplay either, I don't understand what that's supposed to achieve apart from removing what is EASILY the best part of her kit! just shows you have no understanding of the game, your comments are irrelevant, a amumu and malphite who builds into dmg can one shot squishes and also have a high base tank stats paired with HP dmg AP items so not only do they do dmg but they are also tanky. Qiyana is not high skill assasin her tool kit is basic. anyone can pick her up and do EQWQ combo.
IzzŸ (EUW)
: > her CC is not reliable Her EQ GUARANTEES her root. That's reliable.
> [{quoted}](name=IzzŸ,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=JB76Ie4z,comment-id=00010000000100000001,timestamp=2019-12-18T18:44:25.874+0000) > > Her EQ GUARANTEES her root. > > That's reliable. Her root is only for 1 second and it requires you to have enchanted it in river which makes it unreliable. it is also a skill shot with out E for a 1 second short range root. 1 second of root is not going to kill you.
IzzŸ (EUW)
: - she doesn't need buffs - the changes you're suggesting include removing some of the most interesting aspects of her kit (enchantments) - the changes you're suggesting include making her simpler and reducing her already shockingly low counterplay (ult) no
> [{quoted}](name=IzzŸ,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=JB76Ie4z,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-12-18T17:40:15.572+0000) > > - she doesn't need buffs > - the changes you're suggesting include removing some of the most interesting aspects of her kit (enchantments) > - the changes you're suggesting include making her simpler and reducing her already shockingly low counterplay (ult) > > no The reasons for the change in her elements is to make it fairer for counter play as i know she has some strong points to her kit but also very bad ones at that too. Her ultimate has one of if not the biggest counter play than any other champion. if you look at champions with similar ultimate's who have a easier time landing them like malaphite, amumu or oriana. Her ultimate is short and thin and her push back on the ultimate is even shorter, all it takes is for you to position your self in the middle of your lane and her ultimate will not push you far enough to stun and damage you.
: She’s a difficult champion, her win rate will be naturally low... that doesn’t mean she’s weak. She’s an assasin who can completely remove counter play in many situations thanks to her cc chain, and as she has a teamfight ult she gets to be infinitely stronger in a teamfight than any other assasin. So yeah strongest assasin and will remain as such unless she loses a lot of her kit, having that much burst and relisble cc together ain’t healthy
> [{quoted}](name=swampert919,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=JB76Ie4z,comment-id=000100000001,timestamp=2019-12-17T18:42:53.993+0000) > > She’s a difficult champion, her win rate will be naturally low... that doesn’t mean she’s weak. > > She’s an assasin who can completely remove counter play in many situations thanks to her cc chain, and as she has a teamfight ult she gets to be infinitely stronger in a teamfight than any other assasin. > > So yeah strongest assasin and will remain as such unless she loses a lot of her kit, having that much burst and relisble cc together ain’t healthy her CC is not reliable, she has a root and slow on a short duration that requires river and a ultimate that requires enemy team to be near a wall. Qiyana is not a high skill champ, her only and most useful combo is EQWQ this combo can delete a squishy depending on your gold/lvl advantage and is relativity easy to perform. she is hard in a sense then she performs extremely poorly with a okay to bad team mates that cant utilise her ulti and kill potential. I think this is due to her not being able to run out of fights once in them. I know many assassins who can carry a game by their self but Qiyana just cant do it, even if your lvl and kills ahead you simply cannot 1v5 a team. For a champion to have a team play ultimate she should perform well late game but does not. especially if you are in a base.
M3GTRDragon (EUNE)
: she is a counter-engage assasin, and the amount of utility she has in her kit makes her good as fighter and stupidly difficult to deal with when she does go assasin(which is like every game lol)
> [{quoted}](name=M3GTRDragon,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=JB76Ie4z,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-12-17T15:22:28.068+0000) > > she is a counter-engage assasin, and the amount of utility she has in her kit makes her good as fighter and stupidly difficult to deal with when she does go assasin(which is like every game lol) fighter who gets popped in an instant? the best way to play against her is not do go near walls and you can survive her burst. after her burst you have 6 seconds to kill her before her WQ combo come back. 6 seconds in league feels like an eternity.
: 57.67% winrate in challenger over the last month. Zed has 51.76 Yas has 51 How is she the lowest? Akali is 55.62
> [{quoted}](name=Timethief49,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=JB76Ie4z,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-12-17T15:07:06.679+0000) > > 57.67% winrate in challenger over the last month. > Zed has 51.76 > Yas has 51 > How is she the lowest? > Akali is 55.62 You cant compare challenger with a performance of a champion. you can have the same argument with pro play, some champs are better in premades then others. I mean Master yi has a higher win rate in Bronze then he does in challenger so your argument is irreverent. look at her win rate per tier: Bronze 45% Silver 45% gold 46% Plat 49% Diamond 52% This just shows that Qiyana is heavily reliant on team performance then her own. as a whole she just sucks. I have seen fed qiyanas in silver and gold that can not seal the win because of bad team mates who do not understand her and utilise her well. She is only good in premades or very high elo's I can't make risky plays in gold and hope that my team reacts to it. even though it's a team game you pretty much play it solo till you start getting into high elos. Qiyana is not a solo champion.
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: Well you’ve got the tower itself, wait for your team to initiate, and during that EWR them back into your team/turret... you can also wait for them to stray too close to a wall or save your ult for clean up or disengage. And again just like all skill shots, if the enemy team is hiding behind a minion you can’t hook them, if they enemy team is spread out you can’t get a favourable malphite or ori ult. all skill shots rely on identifying and punishing positional mistakes
> [{quoted}](name=swampert919,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=JB76Ie4z,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-17T13:55:05.951+0000) > > Well you’ve got the tower itself, wait for your team to initiate, and during that EWR them back into your team/turret... you can also wait for them to stray too close to a wall or save your ult for clean up or disengage. > > And again just like all skill shots, if the enemy team is hiding behind a minion you can’t hook them, if they enemy team is spread out you can’t get a favourable malphite or ori ult. all skill shots rely on identifying and punishing positional mistakes do you know how short and thin her ulti is? the push back is also misleading, the ulti does not push you all the way back to the tip of the telegraph, it has a fixed push. not only is that difficult but you also get bursted by the back line or then just run away from you if you try and pull something like this off. if the enemy adc or mid is not near a wall what do you do then, with out her ulti she cant burst down. if you look at qiyana 90% of her kills are from landing ultimate.
: She’s considered the strongest assasin at the moment, she needs straight up nerfs. She’s an assasin who can perma stun someone as they kill them and it’s near impossible to avoid her cc because of how it works with her EQ combo
> [{quoted}](name=swampert919,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=JB76Ie4z,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-12-17T13:20:51.126+0000) > > She’s considered the strongest assasin at the moment, she needs straight up nerfs. She’s an assasin who can perma stun someone as they kill them and it’s near impossible to avoid her cc because of how it works with her EQ combo strongest assassin with a the lowest win rate in the game? Tell me how this champion is better then Akali who can get in and out and also does some serious damage to tanks and one shot back line by walking through your tanks and also has more sustain dmg, or zed just ulting back line ruining out or Diana dashing in bursting your back lane and staying tanky due to her W shield or katarina waiting for team to engage and then aoe ult and jump from champ to champ with resets. a fed khazics can 1 shot your back line or clean up very effectually and he can also do some big damage on tanks. blue can can roam the map with ease and shot back like and run. She needs to get of her 2nd Q with wall buff in order to kill you if she is even remotely fed, a EQ combo alone cannot kill you. not to mention her second q is a skill shot and has a position requirement. her cc is heavily position required by her and the enemy, with out river you have ulti as only cc which her ulti is seriously crippling unless your in a realy good position then her ulti is very powerful. Qiyana is the worst performing champion at the moment. if you look at the statistics on champion.gg she has a 39% winrate in jungle she also has 47% win rate in mid, Yes she is very strong early game but that power and being fed does not translate to wins. i have played her maybe 30 games and i have played against her, no matter how fed you are, you don't have enough damage to kill tanks, you don't have the escape and you cant position your self effectively to use your ult when enemy just pushing down mid. her ulti is so small and short , by the time you get into range to throw it your dead, a Caitlin can 2-3 shot you before you even get close, a aphelios can snare you and kill you in 1 cc before you touch him, a ezreal and trinstana can blink away before you use your 2nd q to execute them. a Jhin only need to hit you once when rapid fire canon and out run you and by the time you reach him your on 10% HP. she is the worst assassin I have ever played and her kit plays more like a bruiser like Ireliia, she has mana as a resource that runs out very fast if you use it to poke. and her q range can be blocked by a wall or minion to make it even shorter.
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