Luciferrx (EUNE)
: I didnt try the champ but evryone says that.Is she sayng some stupid shits or what?
she is literally everything we hate about toxic players. xD Now they have perfect champ to suit their attitude. Nice job, Riot.
: Arcade Kai'sa - Disappointment
Ugh colors are so damn ugly >.>
CJXander (EUNE)
: Qiyana is toxic!
Did she really says to Caitlyn to spread to everyone in Pilt-over? What the... I really want to know who the F created those lines. So I can spit at him
: honestly, WHO was Qiyana made for?
Why she sounds like india person from customer service? XD
CJXander (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=AntiqueRoses,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=TJeuJf4l,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-06-12T10:07:14.989+0000) > > Can one be banished from quoting her? Cuz it is toxic ? That's really likely. I know people that got banned for quoting Gankplank.
> [{quoted}](name=CJXander,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=TJeuJf4l,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2019-06-12T14:19:07.529+0000) > > That's really likely. I know people that got banned for quoting Gankplank. And Riot's reason to do that?
Rioter Comments
Marcua (EUW)
: A little reminder
The most annoying thing - that is sadly not registered by chatlogs but also imo toxic - is pinging. You die - they ping you dead. You buy not popular item - they ping it milion times. You go somewhere - they ping you "enemy is missing". I don't want to mute pings to see the more important pinging in game but it's so damn annoying and it makes me want to troll them and do the opposite they are asking for... Just to say fk you in a safer way...
: Best feeling ever!!!
This month I saw 6 of them. I'm really happy because last year I saw maybe... 3 in 12 months? ._.
: To be honest, they should add a mastery level cap. Because this isn't just a problem with new champion release, but anyone first timing a champion... I think mastery level 3 can be correct to make sure they played enough games with the champion to know him without asking for an absurd amount of games.
This will also be problematic for smurfs, acc selling and boosters which is nice.
xStyrosx (EUNE)
: RIOT ARE YOU NUTS ?
I totally don't understand the whole leaver thing. People can have some issues with computer or internet and they should feel motivated to fix it ASAP and go back to game. If Riot gives us only 5 minutes to do it then people decide to not go in since after 5 minutes they will be leavers anyway. So what's the f* point of this?! I think it's good that people are going back to game, few times it saved our game with person going back. It's not their fault and it's GOOD they came back! {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}}
: A league player whose hard disk died
When you start reading thinking it's going to be a crypost about leavebuster and you end up reading the whole thing and actually enjoying it. So what your name means?
: > Now everyone will be in the same place, no matter how skilled they are. {{sticker:sg-lux-2}} This is not a change. In the ex ranked system all went to Silver. Now all will gonna get to Iron. But now is more easy to climb because you will gonna get a big amount of LP after placement. And the ranked system just changed so Riot can't know what division all should get. If you are weak you can't climb, if you are good you climb. Is so easy to understand. If you are weak and placed above your division then you will gonna drag the others down too. They will get rid of you by playing good and in the next 3-4 games they will gonna meet another one like you who will gonna drag them back again.
> In the ex ranked system all went to Silver can someone tell me where this BS cames from? No, people were not going all to Silver.
Kabakadamn (EUNE)
: Man I understand you too. But there are 143 champs in this game, 143*5= 715 skills, some of them even have different effect in different uses etc. So it is definetly good that they have their own tier now. Probably it as less than 143 champs when you start :D But the reason why it is hard especially for players like me is I play supp heros. And not champs like Lux who can cary, I do not enjoy them etc. And for me it is very important if team know how to play, when to engage etc. You may play good with 3-5 champs i top or mid so you can carry easy; that is what I am gonna do this season :D And SO far I am doing well with my top and mid tries. WHat is annoying is when the adc don't know the lantern of thresh is there for them to carry them next to you, Or when you R them with Zilean they run away etc till the effect is gone.. So it is definently needed for people to see champs, play with them and play with them to get used to their tactics. So New player who jumps into to Sİlver tier like me, it is basically disaster for team.
It's not their own, I'm sure that at least 50% of them are smurfs. So it will be hell for beginners AND smurfs. It will be a total lottery who will you play against. And as a pesron who plays since season 2 - I didn't play every champion in this game and there are some champions that are totally mystery to me too because I don't like to play melee much, so Im focusing on casters and adc.
Kabakadamn (EUNE)
: New Ban System
But silvers don't know how to ward. So you were placed in a good place. :D When I see midlaner who has on his yellow trinket vision score 0 (which means he didn't even used FREE WARD) for like 15 minutes then... well answer yourself. Also I think you have no idea why smurfs accounts even exist. They are not only because people are banned. They are because people want to have more accounts (for reasons) or they are "omg famous streamers" lol. I created new account on EUW for 2 reasons: first 1 yeah I was banned (not for flame, for very stupid reason tbh that I still dont understand) and second, more important, I wanted account on EUW to play with friends. I play on EUNE most of the time and I didn't want to change my acc to EUW so I created new one. Smurfing will never end no matter what, it exist in every game...
Kabakadamn (EUNE)
: Thanks god. New player won't know WHOLE CHAMPS AND SKILLS. How do you expect them to be silver? Sİlver tier player are actually playing good, they just can not predict when to angage. If new player is assigned for silver tier, it is only good for smurf accounts, SMURF ACCOUNTS which have been punished. SO that smurf accounts will reach their skill level faster. They were really causing pain for silver tier, thanks god we don't have them anymore. But I am feeling sorry for iron tier now, but they will win when they have smurf in their team now. SO HERE İS MY SOLUTION TO ALL SMURF PROBLEMS https://boards.eune.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behaviour-en/JBp9udM9-new-ban-system
Do you even read any comments here? It's not about new players in Silver. it's about smurfs and streamers. Also, my first division ever in LoL was Silver 4 and I ended in Gold 5 pretty fast, I didn't had to know all champions to be good with mine champion and win. Silver is not a high elo, you can win simply with a bit brain and luck with teammates. > They were really causing pain for silver tier, thanks god we don't have them anymore Ohoho I don't know how to tell you this but... You know it will be much worse? Now not only smurfs will BE in silver for a while, they will also accidentally boost all that Iron players in their games, getting them to Bronze-Silver level. I really want to see all of you guys, commenting here, when this will happen. Just waiting for it.
M3GTRDragon (EUNE)
: basically what everybody is trying to say is that it makes matchmaking more stable, even tho it wont remove the imbalance
"Everyone" you mean that few people talking nonsense below? I saw maybe 1 rational argument the rest is "omg dont cry", "bo hoo I am little silver and i know everything". Nothing more. Like always, people tend to downvote and shtcomment posts that needs a little thinking to understand and talk about it.
: You act like: "Hi, I start a new account and I will be placed in Iron because this will be the bottom of the divisions. How is this fair?" > with new accounts and beginners will have to start from the bottom "New account" and "beginner" is the same sh it for Riot because they can't detect smurfs so good. Just because you was high Silver, low Gold on another account that doesn't mean that you play so good than beginners so Riot can't say if you are a good beginner or a smurf. Only good players who are in Plat II and higher may be but somewhere else, but I think that they will be also placed in Iron and after they will gonna get more LP than usual. Im not so sure, but this happen on PBE. > So, we have no chance in making placements like any normal person? This is the placing for any normal person. Don't act like you are so good at this game than you need to be placed in Gold IV or higher.
It's not my first new account, I had many placements before and it was much better (still bad tho) in first ranked games. Now everyone will be in the same place, no matter how skilled they are. Think before commenting. Ty.
: it reduces it by putting everyone new in Iron, forcing them to climb with their own skill instead of getting lucky placement games and ending up on a plat mmr when they are at a bronze/silver lvl at best. The current MMR system up to now was god awful, getting a couple of lucky games where even people going 0/11 getting carried by their teammates, sure they eventually will drop to their rank, but until they get to their deserved rank they will ruin a whole lot of games as long as they are at an mmr to high for their skill lvl
> it reduces it by putting everyone new in Iron, forcing them to climb with their own skill instead of getting lucky placement games it's hard to agree since I had few times placements when I won 9-1 and ex-Plat 1 I was placed in Silver 5. If I lost 5+ games in placements maybe I would be even in Bronze because of what? Of bad luck? Bad day? It works in both ways. > people going 0/11 getting carried by their teammates and how it's going to be better? It will be worse now because everyone in Iron can be carried by all that smurfs and streamers in games rising them even to Gold. Before we were landing in Silver as better players, Now we will have to go from Iron, Bronze and Silver - taking some unskilled, beginners and trolls with us sometimes.
HitYourHead (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Hexa XV,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=5Ex0UMK8,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2019-01-22T10:45:36.691+0000) > > who ruined games? Earlier when you won placement like you should you were getting a better division - simple as that. And either you climbed or you were lowered if games were bad. > the players that were placed in silver even they deserved bronze 5, and they ruined games until they dropped to bronze, that's why system was change, that's why majority of players complained of old system. > No. In old system people were placed from Bronze 5 to Silver 1 mostly. There is a huge difference. Now they will be placed in Iron 5 all of them, from what I read. > smurf of those players still need all the grinding and players in silver, gold ,etc still needed to fight smurfs and get destroyed > Majority were placed around silver 2-3, maybe 5 if they lost all 10 promos not bronze 5 not even 1, nobody was placed in bronze 5 that was the problem. > Yes and you think it was fair for anyone? Now it's going to be much worse because all that smurfs - no matter if from Gold, Plat, Diamond or higher, will have to go from 7 circles of Hell up crushing any beginner they will meet. > Now is not fair for irons, back then was not fair for silvers, so smurfs problem is same, or players that deserve more, but instead nobody will have games destory by bronze players in silver 2. So new system is far better and fair. > I see lots of people think are thinking that smurfs are only one wave that will pass. > But sorry - you are all wrong. It will not pass just after 1 week. I'm sure that there are lots of smurfs right now climbing to 30 level (well I play with them right now) and there are people buying accounts on 30 level unranked to start from Iron 5. It's going to be like that for whole season because streamers want to show people "funny" games and how fast they are climbing. > Nobody think smurfs are passing by, but problem is same, back them they beat silvers now irons, same thing different divisions, but like I said players wanted changes not because smurfs but because new players being placed in silver 2-3 and ruined game with lack of knowledge. Also any smurf that is at least gold can rise from iron in couple of games unleash they throw game intentionally to stay iron, but those players did same in old system also, losing games to drop in bronze. > Back then streamers were intentionally feeding and losing to get Bronze 5, risking bans. Now they don't need to try or anything. They will just instantly start from the bottom. You think that's fair for any other people that are below their level? > What about Gold/Plat players? Not only they are going to be forced to work with beginners and ex-bronzes but they will have to play against smurfs even from Diamond+. > Any smart person can drop game without being banned, you need to be stupid and immature to get caught dropping a game, its easy to go fight a feed enemy in every fight and die fast which seems like just a bad move never intentional, even if a human review those games can't punish smart players. Also compared to millions of players, trust me streamers and jerks are not so manny, instead were so many bronze players end up in silver 2 after placements and made silver players crazy. Again any gold player will have no problem to climb from iron in couple of games. > People smurfing for fun are destroying this game for years. Creating 4-5 accounts per season. And how many of them exist? My friend was Diamond 1-2 for 3 years in a row and last season he couldn't reach Diamond 5 because of trolling, bug splats, crashes and "streaming" people in Plat making stupid things for viewers. Now I feel it's going to be even worse... People that smurfing unless they are bronze or maybe silvers will climb from iron very fast so they can't "enjoy" beating bad players to long, only like I said if they intentional drop games, but those are not so many Also its not different that old system in which the need to lose intentionally to get bronze from silver, now they are already iron like you said, but this is a good thing because now they are already in iron, in past they trolled silver games to drop in bronze.
> the players that were placed in silver even they deserved bronze 5, and they ruined games until they dropped to bronze, that's why system was change, that's why majority of players complained of old system. that's total BS. Sorry. "They deserved bronze 5" - well they didn't because they were placed in Silver. If you felt that you play with people who deserved Bronze then you should just climb much faster and end in division that suits you. > Majority were placed around silver 2-3, maybe 5 if they lost all 10 promos not bronze 5 not even 1, nobody was placed in bronze 5 that was the problem. Never heard about it. I saw lots of posts on boards about people placed in Bronze 5 or 4. Some of my friends were placed in Bronze too. Even after 5-6 won games. > Now is not fair for irons, back then was not fair for silvers It's not fair for at least 80% of people who are throwed there. And for people who deserve Bronze, Silver or Gold. Because they will have a hell to climb back to their divisions, beating better smurfs, streamers and cooperating with Irons. In Silver people at least had the basic knowledge. It was hard sometimes but never too hard to cooperate and carry. Honestly I don't know what I'd do if I was placed in Bronze 5 at the beginning but watching my friends (who were not that bad in game at all) trying to leave Bronze in first 2 weeks was exhausting enough...
: This game has far more problems than the ranked system, honestly for me as a jungle player I actually appriciate that change, reduces the amount of boosted top/mid/botlane players in my games who have 0 map awareness. Literally every game being that I have to get fed af in the first 5 - 6 minutes of the game and if that isn't the case I can just aswell go afk and turn on smash ultimate to play until the inedivable loss comes.
> This game has far more problems than the ranked system yeah that's true > honestly for me as a jungle player I actually appriciate that change, reduces the amount of boosted top/mid/botlane players in my games who have 0 map awareness. how it reduces it?
WarlockBN (EUNE)
: if you are in low elo than how 6 did not do much for you if you are in a good elo ... then why you talk abut that in the first place ... if i to play in low elo ... mostly to have fun and play for kills
you know it would took you 2 seconds to check which level I have on EUW? 23.
Mada (EUW)
: Why I report players
I have to say that Riot really started to impress me with bans - I got at least 4 notifications this month. And I report ONLY people who are just toxic without any reason and they are openly trolling and afking. Since I have still 23 level, there is really no point in being frustrated for lose or flame people for losing lane... I'm amazed how many people are gamethrowing and flaming in normal games on low level. :| It's really sad.
: Being positive results in bans too, so it doesn't even matter what you do. Protecting your brother and saying "we pray for you too", because a guy wished my brother dead and called people disabled, was enough for a permanent ban, according to Riot games. If these are reasons to ban someone: 70% of the players should have been perma banned. Another proof that the system is crap x)
That's why I talk with premades on voice chat. Bruh if what we are sayng was on the chat... We all would be banned because babies would cry and Riot later with them. xD
jurjen909 (EUW)
: Riot you have outdone yourself again with the new cinematic.
Ugh... He looks horrible {{sticker:sg-lulu}}
HitYourHead (EUNE)
: Hey Everybody complain, for 9 years people complained that new players got in silver and the ones that deserve lower they ruined games, finally they change it and now the other side of players complain. It's never fail so we need to settle for a compromise. Now lets see the difference old system vs new system for new accounts. Old system players were placed around silver 2-4 depend of their placement games, now players are placed somewhere in iron depending of placement. Old system good players let say future challenger they need to grind silver, gold, platinum,etc to reach challenger - so still not fair for them smurf of those players still need all the grinding and players in silver, gold ,etc still needed to fight smurfs and get destroyed players that deserved silver no problem for them or players they play with them players that deserved bronze they wil get frustrated being destroyed, and ruine a lot of games until the got demoted to bronze. New system good players need to grind same as before just 2 more divisions smurfs of these same grind with 2 more divisions players that deserve iron it's fair for them and players that they play with ~~and that's it no more players that destroy game until they drop to were they deserve.~~ As you can see in new system its own category of players less, the category of players that suffered being matched with players that had no clue about ranked and game in general and got their games ruined by bronze player suntil thao players got demoted. Now the only unfairness is for players that will be betenby smurfs/players that deserve better and will climb, but it's ok since that happened before also but in silver and above now its happen in iron and above, so same unfairness until good players climb just 2 divisions below. Players that need to grind to rise they did same before now they need to grind more. Also the most important fact is that now games are only ruined because good players are placed in bad mmr so they destroy the players there before they climb, but there will be no cases of players having games ruined because of bad players that are in the way down from silver to bronze. So at least now players only suffer from good players not from bad players and since climbing is faster than demoting theoretical less player surfer and at least they have something to learn for good players, but before the good players/smurfs were still a problem just 2 divisions above. So as nobody can make a perfect system, a compromise need to be made since nobody can magically knwo a player skills before play rank, the new system is less unfail then old one.
> Everybody complain, for 9 years people complained that new players got in silver and the ones that deserve lower they ruined games who ruined games? Earlier when you won placement like you should you were getting a better division - simple as that. And either you climbed or you were lowered if games were bad. > Old system players were placed around silver 2-4 depend of their placement games, now players are placed somewhere in iron depending of placement. No. In old system people were placed from Bronze 5 to Silver 1 mostly. There is a huge difference. Now they will be placed in Iron 5 all of them, from what I read. > good players let say future challenger they need to grind silver, gold, platinum,etc to reach challenger - so still not fair for them smurf of those players still need all the grinding and players in silver, gold ,etc still needed to fight smurfs and get destroyed Yes and you think it was fair for anyone? Now it's going to be much worse because all that smurfs - no matter if from Gold, Plat, Diamond or higher, will have to go from 7 circles of Hell up crushing any beginner they will meet. I see lots of people think are thinking that smurfs are only one wave that will pass. But sorry - you are all wrong. It will not pass just after 1 week. I'm sure that there are lots of smurfs right now climbing to 30 level (well I play with them right now) and there are people buying accounts on 30 level unranked to start from Iron 5. It's going to be like that for whole season because streamers want to show people "funny" games and how fast they are climbing. Back then streamers were intentionally feeding and losing to get Bronze 5, risking bans. Now they don't need to try or anything. They will just instantly start from the bottom. You think that's fair for any other people that are below their level? What about Gold/Plat players? Not only they are going to be forced to work with beginners and ex-bronzes but they will have to play against smurfs even from Diamond+. People smurfing for fun are destroying this game for years. Creating 4-5 accounts per season. And how many of them exist? My friend was Diamond 1-2 for 3 years in a row and last season he couldn't reach Diamond 5 because of trolling, bug splats, crashes and "streaming" people in Plat making stupid things for viewers. Now I feel it's going to be even worse...
WarlockBN (EUNE)
: ya ... that is good ... for you ... learn the game and learn how to carry .. and mostly you need to learn how to be toxic ...
I think that 6 years were enough to learn that.
: Well, if you've been silver V before, you shouldn't have an issue getting back there, so what's the problem?
You know what the problem is? The problem is tons of wanna-be-famous-streamers who are going to be spreading in Iron to show how cool they are. The games are not going to be Iron vs. Iron but Iron (ex-Bronze) vs. Iron (ex-Diamond) etc. etc. I don't worry about myself as much as I worry about friends or people who are playing this game for the first time. I think I will be able to reach at least Gold but I played in Gold/Plat/Diamond for at least 2-3 years. And there are people who are going to be forced to play against people like me and worse. For smurfs it's frustration and waste of time and nerves - for beginners it's all of that + big unfairness.
Shozis (EUNE)
: Imho, it's a good system to start from the bottom and climb back. Some competitive games use it already. My only concern is indeed smurfs. Before this a lot of streamers dreamed being placed in Bronze for a challenge or to show viewiers how easy it is to climb but couldn't without feeding and inting because their skill was just too high. Now they can. Iron might be infested with smurfs.
> My only concern is indeed smurfs. Yes this is the only thing that worries me, nothing else... Maybe I was in Diamond, long long time ago, but played last year calmly in Gold/Plat mostly. And I'm sure that if there will be a high Diamond smurfs (or even higher) then I will also have a problem in games where my team is full of ex-Bronze/SIlvers and beginners... And even if I will win games - which I think is possible - then still, there are people who can't win with their experience and knowledge... It's really unfair for them to be forced to play with smurfs. I saw what's going on in games at the beginning of game, it's hell. And I feel that Iron is going to be that hell too.
: smurf problem is a separate matter from the fact that every person now start from the bottom, and it's only fair this way, previously newcomers to ranked were automatically placed in silver, and a lot of players complained about that because they weren't good enough, it make sense that when you start your climb you start from the bottom
Can you imagine what it will be in iron to play against smurfs? I had few games with beginners (until it started to add me to smurf games too) and it was really sad. I at least tried to help but lots of smurfs were taking Zed or Yasuo or Master and they were slashing them and mocking all game feeling like Gods. They will do the same in Iron, I'm sure about it. And I will be really shocked if people will be determined to try more to leave this hell division.
: There are several competitive games who have that very system, you start from the very bottom and have to climb up to your actual skill lvl which in my opinion is completly fine, it's a normal ladder system. About smurf having to start from the same rank, could be a bad thing cuz iron players will have to face people way above their skill lvl and knowledge, yet many will deliver youtube or twitch footage that will show you exactly what you have to do in order to get out of that rank
> About smurf having to start from the same rank, could be a bad thing cuz iron players will have to face people way above their skill lvl and knowledge, That's what I'm talking about. It's unfair for both smurfs and beginners. For smurfs because they will need to carry people for at least 20 games to reach a decent level and for beginners because they will have to play against smurfs to climb and I'm sure it will not be an iron level game...
: You are not treated worse than others. It's just that previously ranked accounts have already proven that they can play at a certain level. New accs haven't. The fact that smurfs and new players both start in iron may be a bit unfortunate, but smurfs will rise through the ranks pretty quickly so it won't have too much of an effect on real low elo players. I started from bronze V in season 3 (which was the lowest division at the time) too. It makes sense that way. If you're good enough, you'll climb pretty quickly.
> but smurfs will rise through the ranks pretty quickly so it won't have too much of an effect on real low elo players. You are forgetting that smurfs are not a one wave that will simply rise and never return. I started from Silver V in season 3, and never was below. That's why I just think it's damn unfair for people to start from the bottom even if they not deserve it.
Rioter Comments
: Second week of poro champion emotes!
You can try to work a bit on rendering. AO looks a bit unpolished and it gives a "I made it very fast" feeling. I love the ideas tho :)
: I've never understood the whole EZ crap either man. Winners or losers it's not exactly sportsmanlike, which is meant to be part of the Summoner's Code after all. Personally I've reported players like that and said that it breaks #6 of the Code: _"Show Humility in Victory, and Grace in Defeat"_ Bit anal? Oh yes! Worth it when you get the feedback reports from time to time? Absolutely!
For me it's funny as hell when I see people writing this. Just like the game I had few minutes ago - enemy botlane was fed by my trolling adc and they were thinking they are gods writing "ez" and "suck me" on all chat. I killed both of them in 2 seconds - few times in a row. They still wrote "ez" at the end of the game. I think they are just looking for boosting their ego. Because probably in real life they don't have any chance to do it. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
Rioter Comments
Ariin (EUNE)
: Harder to carry this season?
You make more harm than good for your friends... They are forced to play against smurfs because like others said - game detect that you are smurfing. And about carry games - I think the main reason is that you play with 2 newbie friends who probably (only guessing) aren't that good while enemy can have 5 smurfs in team. Sometimes it's harder to carry normal game because picks and strategies are unusual. People are trying new things and are not acting the same like on rankeds. I remember I had a problem to Q with Morgana because enemies were not trying to avoid it. :v That was weird.
11wildy (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Hexa XV,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=0KB1L6YE,comment-id=00040000000000000000,timestamp=2019-01-04T14:42:02.741+0000) > > I don't know numbers but I play Nami and Soraka a lot and I feel huge difference in healing. And it doesn't bother me that it costs so much because in teamfight the most important thing is to keep adc safe. In late I can heal practically 50% of adc missing health in seconds while with Bard it's practically impossible. > I seriously don’t see how you find him having low damage, do you not go electricute or something? > > Maybe you are right. I played him long time ago and not often because I didn't like him. So maybe his damage is better than I remember. Hard to say since I don't see people playing him anyway. > > So... looking at your comments Bard is just a champion to play outside of teamfights. Which is pretty... useless as support. At least it's my opinion. > > Yes I can agree that this ultimate has huge potential and can save the game sometimes. But the problem is - those moments are rare in game and usually opportunity is gone before you can see it. If you are skilled with Bard then maybe he is a good champ but overall people just prefer supports that are easier to handle and better for fights. That last message sums it up so well. Soraka is super easy to play, so even a new soraka player will do well. Meanwhile a new bard player will be terrible. Bard is the support I fear the most, because a great bard player can completely destroy the game for our team. A good soraka will be annoying to deal with, but Grievous Wounds help a lot there.
Yep, but that's why this kind of champs are a failure, imo. People don't want to play hard to master champs and if they want they cant' always take them (matchups etc).
: > well his heal is very weak. Much worse than Nami's and Soraka's. Or even Tarics. It gives a speed but the speed is also worse than Lulu's. So I prefer to have either good heal or speed than both but weaker... Except it’s not weaker, just different. You can set them up to allow for them to be used when needed... but the main thing is that it’s essentially free. Soraka costs health which she has to spend more mana getting back, Nami W costs an arm and a leg (seriously it’s like 110 mana or something like that), and taric not only is just as strong but is also still bloody expensive. Bard gets his mana sustain through his passive, so while his heals are weaker he can do it for a hell of a lot longer than anyone else... ultimately that’s the goal of a war of attrition, to outlast. > His damage is also very low comparing to other supports. I'm finding poking much better with Janna than with Bard ;_; Are we talking about the same champion here? Q auto with a meep and electricute can easily take 1/3rd health early game... I’ve solo killed carries with the burst before. Plus I maybe build him near full ap so like the burst gets pretty big later on especially as he’s an infinite scaler like nasus. I seriously don’t see how you find him having low damage, do you not go electricute or something? > And if you avoid to use utlimate then it tells us everything about the design of this champ. They failed hard making him. I don’t avoid using the ultimate becauseits bad, I avoid using it in teamfights because that’s not when you use it... teamfights are explosive using the ult doesn’t help your team at all. Perhaps avoid was the wrong word, perhaps save is better. You don’t use it mid teamfight cause that’s not the best time, you use it just before to help set up the initiation, you use it just after to cut off escape or to cover your own escape, you use it to create picks. So it’s not a bad ult, prob one of the strongest in the game... it’s just gonna be a bad ult if you use it at the wrong time, not every ult is for a teamfight.
> Except it’s not weaker, just different. You can set them up to allow for them to be used when needed... but the main thing is that it’s essentially free. I don't know numbers but I play Nami and Soraka a lot and I feel huge difference in healing. And it doesn't bother me that it costs so much because in teamfight the most important thing is to keep adc safe. In late I can heal practically 50% of adc missing health in seconds while with Bard it's practically impossible. > Are we talking about the same champion here? Q auto with a meep and electricute can easily take 1/3rd health early game... I’ve solo killed carries with the burst before. Plus I maybe build him near full ap so like the burst gets pretty big later on especially as he’s an infinite scaler like nasus. I seriously don’t see how you find him having low damage, do you not go electricute or something? Maybe you are right. I played him long time ago and not often because I didn't like him. So maybe his damage is better than I remember. Hard to say since I don't see people playing him anyway. > don’t avoid using the ultimate becauseits bad, I avoid using it in teamfights because that’s not when you use it... So... looking at your comments Bard is just a champion to play outside of teamfights. Which is pretty... useless as support. At least it's my opinion. > So it’s not a bad ult, prob one of the strongest in the game... it’s just gonna be a bad ult if you use it at the wrong time, not every ult is for a teamfight. Yes I can agree that this ultimate has huge potential and can save the game sometimes. But the problem is - those moments are rare in game and usually opportunity is gone before you can see it. If you are skilled with Bard then maybe he is a good champ but overall people just prefer supports that are easier to handle and better for fights.
: Adc player looking for a dedicated support
Hey, I like playing Morg, Soraka, Sona, Brand on bot. But I'm open to unusual picks too. :D I have 15 lvl here.
: Bard is amazing when you’ve got a bard player who knows their stuff. He’s got a lot of burst for a support so he can trade really well and his sustain is among the best in bot lane (can also sustain mana so he can outlast other healers). And yeah his ult can ruin teamfights which is why I tend to avoid using it there unless I know it will work... but it’s awesome for picks, retreats, and clean ups... So I wouldn’t say worst champion in league, just unusual and difficult. Still unpopular though pretty sure I’m the only one I ever see playing him.
> So I wouldn’t say worst champion in league, just unusual and difficult. Still unpopular though pretty sure I’m the only one I ever see playing him. But in my opition there are many other difficult champs that can be great when learned. Bard is just... well his heal is very weak. Much worse than Nami's and Soraka's. Or even Tarics. It gives a speed but the speed is also worse than Lulu's. So I prefer to have either good heal or speed than both but weaker... His damage is also very low comparing to other supports. I'm finding poking much better with Janna than with Bard ;_; And if you avoid to use utlimate then it tells us everything about the design of this champ. They failed hard making him. Yeah he is funny and mobile and everything but he sucks on any role.
: Which champions you think players play less? Like which champion you almost never see in-game?
{{champion:432}} - thank god for it because I think its one of the worst champions in LoL. I find him really uncomfortable to play on support and personally I don't like it when he is in my team, lots of people ruin teamfights with failed ultimates. {{champion:427}} - same, maybe I don't recognize his abilities well or idk. {{champion:429}} - I think that in last season I never saw her in any ranked game. Maybe it's because her ultimate is pretty hard when u have no premade on bot or maybe it's just that champ si not that good. {{champion:421}} - the same, I never saw her on ranked. {{champion:223}} - he was played a lot before but lately he is also "gone". {{champion:163}} - honestly, outside of ARAM I saw her maybe 10 times since she was released. And all above are pretty new champs. So what does it says to us..?
: There is flex queue for a reason.
Since when exactly you can play 4 premade in flex? O_o
Camp2 (EUW)
: So I got my comment removed ahaha xD. Pile of shit of a company srs...
idk not by me lol, I didnt even report it because I didnt saw what you wrote :v
Camp2 (EUW)
: your comment could be applied to someone that complains about not being able to play when they are 6 friends: "Me and my friends always struggle with a fact that we are always 6 So what - we shouldn't be able to play together at all?". The solution is simple split in two teams of 2, in case of the 4 premade lik if you were 6. It has been too many games with this kind of kids... And is different from 3 or 2 because when its 4, oh boy, they are all relaxed cause if you dont do as they want they will report you or ruin your game. It even happen to me once that i wanted to win so i could get a mission and we were winning, almost destroying their nexus, and just to troll me, because they want to look cool to each other, they all surr 4-1 after 20 mins... And btw, Thank god you cant pre 4 in rank... That is just hubber %%%%%%...
> The solution is simple split in two teams of 2, in care of the 4 premade. The solution is more simple than this - just stop being egoistic. Just because you play alone doesn't mean that everyone does. You know what I have enough of? Of people like you - always will find a reason why they are losing, not improving or having fun. Maybe the problem is inside you? Maybe you should chill a bit on normals? Or just play rankeds where there will be definitely no 4 premades in game.
Camp2 (EUW)
: 4 premades....
> I think riot should just forbid 4 premade games, because it is going to be most of the times hell to the solo player. so you want to take from us fun on normals too? It's bad enough we can't play any rankeds as 4. Also just because you had few times bad situation in preme doesn't mean everyone are like that. Me and my friends always struggle with a fact that we can't find 5th person. So what - we shouldn't be able to play together at all? Also premades can be bad no matter if there are 2, 3 or 4 people. They can "trap you in a feeding game" even as a duo. So if you don't want to be with 4 premade then find one guy to duo.
VIT Laati (EUNE)
: Malphite is highly ult reliant. Maokai can lock down opponents with basic abilities. Maokai also has sustain. Imo Maokai > Malphite in any role.
Ok, thank you!
TheHammy (EUNE)
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I'm not mocking you, I replied to your comment where you unkindly replies that I should accept your opinion because I ASKED ABOUT ONE. LIke I should feel... idk grateful that your grace decided to comment? This is really dumb, don't you see? All I said was that I don't agree that he is not mobile because even against someone like Lulu on botlane I still didn't feel slow - just like any other melee against caster. And you started this discussion like you are highly offended because I have different opinion. Time to grow up.
TheHammy (EUNE)
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Man, it's you who started so please can you just stop and don't talk if you have nothing else to say? You are spamming and it's not going to help me or anyone. I asked a question but it doesn't mean I know nothing about those champs or the gameplay. Just because you *exist* doesn't mean I have to agree with you. > I wonder why you ask questions on board if you formed your opinion, just to gain confirmation? not so confident eh ? I asked a question because I want to know people's opinions about those 2 champions. You started being toxic when I answered that I don't agree with you. So again, please, let it be. Go somewhere else, bye bye. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-catface}}
TheHammy (EUNE)
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Well, I have a right to have my opinion, sorry if that is offending you. {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}} And I was asking people who main toplane and are actually good players, you are in silver and since last time I was in silver it was season 3, I don't think your experience on SR is going to help me in any way. And yeah, this website is useful, maybe try to check it somtimes so u can at least end in gold.
TheHammy (EUNE)
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emm what? I played him on support, he is pretty mobile with his slow and ult.
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