ߥD (EUW)
: About New Aatrox
Well riot managed once again to destroy another champion with the reworks... fist shaco ... since it wasnt enough they kept on nerfing him ... but well about aatrox, he did already suffered a mini rework which was actually nice since he kept being the aatrox of before with some minor changes (which I cant recall it was long ago) .... NOW .... the new Aatrox ... its not even a new aatrox it is a new champion to which they decided to give the name aatrox ... it is not fun to play, it is not as mobile, not as fast, not the carry he once could be if he got ahead ... no... they decided to give him a sword like gare, a Q and E like Riven (I'm not talking about the dmgs, just how the mechanics of the ability are the 3 hops the little dash). This aatrox cannot kite, cannot jump in, doesn't sustain as the other old one ... TL;DR - It's not aatrox, it's a whole new champion ... Thanks Riot ... if you're to do the same to so called yet fogotten rework to shaco, light as well not do it ... or do it to your lovely protected champs, Yasuo and Riven ...
: They never said end of 2017... they said that shaco was high in priority for a rework, that's it... It's difficult to determine how long it will be until the shaco rework but we can be certain it's after irelia at the very earliest, and that's just a rough estimate.
> [{quoted}](name=swampert919,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=f7vuAz5t,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-10-31T16:11:48.716+0000) > > They never said end of 2017... they said that shaco was high in priority for a rework, that's it... It's difficult to determine how long it will be until the shaco rework but we can be certain it's after irelia at the very earliest, and that's just a rough estimate. I do remember reading, "by the end of the year" ... now I just dont remember if I read it of reddit or on the official riot article explaining the assassin update... but well, I do recall, that the last time they changed shaco it came more as a nerf than a buff ... so having no reowrk might actually be a good thing ...
Rioter Comments
: Actually, nerfs and buffs are made based on the pros feeling or the win rate, for example, a 60% win rate champion is problably going to be nerfed, while a 40% win rate champion is problably going to be buffed, the problem is that they should also nerf/buff based on how healthy those champions are, for example, some champions with 60% ban rate have less than 50% win rate. For example: Yasuo have 51% Win rate with almost 60% Ban Rate, he is problably going to be nerfed because his win rate is 1% higher than how it should be (for every champion to be balanced, they should all have 50% win rate) While Camille have just 51.1% Win Rate, so she is just barely stronger than Yasuo, yet, she have 65.4% Ban Rate, that's much higher! On the other hand, we have Darius with a 51.9% Win Rate, much higher than Camille and Yasuo, yet, just 36.4% Ban Rate, so, he should get nerfed, yet, players don't feel like they demand it, because even if he is the 3nd most banned in Bronze/Silver (1st one being Camille), he is just the 6th more banned in Gold, 10th more banned in Plat, and not even in the top 10 in Diamond+ This problably means that Darius is a free-elo champion in Bronze-Silver, with a lot of hate, but, Gold+ Players know how to play against him and don't feel the need to ban him Same with Rengar, he have 58.37% Ban Rate on current patch Plat+ Ranked, yet, just 47.25% Win rate, this means he is weak and not going to be nerfed, but problably buffed, yet, unhealthy, so people will get angry when he will get buffed. P.S. All of this according to LoLKing EUW Server or Champion GG Current Patch Plat+ Statistics P.P.S. Also, according to Champion gg, Shaco Jungler is the 3rd champion with the highest Win Rate, with 54.78% Win Rate, also, he is the jungler with the top win rate (Sion Support and Kayle Top have the 1st and 2nd places)
> [{quoted}](name=Elhim,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=2EVbn4Qg,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-01-13T08:25:36.508+0000) > > Actually, nerfs and buffs are made based on the pros feeling or the win rate, for example, a 60% win rate champion is problably going to be nerfed, while a 40% win rate champion is problably going to be buffed, the problem is that they should also nerf/buff based on how healthy those champions are, for example, some champions with 60% ban rate have less than 50% win rate. > For example: Yasuo have 51% Win rate with almost 60% Ban Rate, he is problably going to be nerfed because his win rate is 1% higher than how it should be (for every champion to be balanced, they should all have 50% win rate) > While Camille have just 51.1% Win Rate, so she is just barely stronger than Yasuo, yet, she have 65.4% Ban Rate, that's much higher! > > On the other hand, we have Darius with a 51.9% Win Rate, much higher than Camille and Yasuo, yet, just 36.4% Ban Rate, so, he should get nerfed, yet, players don't feel like they demand it, because even if he is the 3nd most banned in Bronze/Silver (1st one being Camille), he is just the 6th more banned in Gold, 10th more banned in Plat, and not even in the top 10 in Diamond+ > > This problably means that Darius is a free-elo champion in Bronze-Silver, with a lot of hate, but, Gold+ Players know how to play against him and don't feel the need to ban him > > Same with Rengar, he have 58.37% Ban Rate on current patch Plat+ Ranked, yet, just 47.25% Win rate, this means he is weak and not going to be nerfed, but problably buffed, yet, unhealthy, so people will get angry when he will get buffed. > > P.S. All of this according to LoLKing EUW Server or Champion GG Current Patch Plat+ Statistics > > P.P.S. Also, according to Champion gg, Shaco Jungler is the 3rd champion with the highest Win Rate, with 54.78% Win Rate, also, he is the jungler with the top win rate (Sion Support and Kayle Top have the 1st and 2nd places) Very beautiful answer... does all your stats account for how many times a champion is played as well?? For example if shaco has 54,78% but was played only 10 ten times against a lower winrate champion that is played 100 times... obviously he gets a higher winrate cuz the sample is smaller .... Even though some of the champions you mentioned are getting nerfed none of them got the axe like shaco who will be losing "all" his AP side... to be cut off of 200 AP on his ult??? Plus de rations on his Q and E ??? Sorry that amounts for a loss of almost 300 or more AP .... say whatever you want .... Shaco does not deserve such consecutive losses of power ...
: the riot balance team is retarded AF silver 4 trash. does it make sense now?
> [{quoted}](name=ITG Ban Yasuo,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=2EVbn4Qg,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-01-11T11:25:35.692+0000) > > the riot balance team is retarded AF silver 4 trash. > does it make sense now? They just ahve eyes for their babies ... Yasuo, Riven, Rengar, etc,, etc, their niche players.... I remember the last time they "nerfed" Yasuo... it actually made him even stronger.... I wonder what they're gonna do now.
Infernape (EUW)
: Those three champions you've mentioned don't have the ability to literally appear out of thin air and delete you before you have a chance to react. Syndra's been nerfed, Yasuo's getting nerfed (hard by the looks of it), Ziggs's oneshots can be dodged (and is open to getting nerfed if it becomes a problem), and there was something not quite right with junglers being at higher levels (at times) and being majorly ahead of the laners in the game.
> [{quoted}](name=FurorDivinus27,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=2EVbn4Qg,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-01-11T08:53:51.897+0000) > > Those three champions you've mentioned don't have the ability to literally appear out of thin air and delete you before you have a chance to react. > > Syndra's been nerfed, Yasuo's getting nerfed (hard by the looks of it), Ziggs's oneshots can be dodged (and is open to getting nerfed if it becomes a problem), and there was something not quite right with junglers being at higher levels (at times) and being majorly ahead of the laners in the game. You're talking about the old shaco ... new shaco is so weak early that he's barely useful for the team.... and does get one shotted more often that he one shots. He's so dependent on items to be relevant that if he falls a little bit behind that's already a huge difference to recover in regards to other junglers ....
Rioter Comments
FNC Warlord (EUNE)
: Removing the surrender option
It's because of people like you, who think like : "oh "I'M" carrying" "oh "I'M"having such a great game", while your team is getting ripped apart, that the surrender button exist ... so people dont have to keep playing the game for "hours" on end when they know they don't have the chance to win ...
TheTomeyh (EUW)
: Poppy this aint cool!
I find all her available skins ugly .... apart from battle regalia .... but in a whole she only has two viable skins as far as I'm concerned.{{sticker:zombie-brand-clap}}
: Looking for a couple of players - just fun
Noibla (EUW)
: League of Legends, if you're gonna be accurate, stopped being a game after around season 1 where it turned into an eSport instead. I like to play it and treat it as a game, but people are too hellbent on winning, even in Normals, ARAM or Dominion. Hell, even in Feautured Game Modes (such as One For All or URF) you have to play to win! You can't even use "off-meta" picks because you *will* be reported for "trolling" (it's not against the Summoner's Code)... If you wanna do a 'different' meta (e.g 2 top, 1 mid, 2 bot)... Unless you're 5 people that's premade, that's not gonna happen - people can't play if it's not according to the meta. Oh and Lord forbid you have FUN. You have to WIN. If you don't win, you're not having fun. It's counter productive and I hate it. And I've been playing since around week 20 in Season 1 (when it was an actual GAME and was actually FUN).
You hit the nail with your comment ... people don't know how to have fun with a "game" ... especially the off-meta part of your comment. It is completely ridiculous how you get kicked every time you want to play a champion that goes against the meta... Even those who are in the meta, for example, Ashe is listed as both marksman and support ... EVERY SINGLE TIME I try to play Ashe support I just can't ... everybody kicks or say I'm trolling ... abd this on an effin normal game...
: Well firstly teemo shrooms are an ult while shaco box is a basic ability so it's entirely fair for the shrooms to be better as ults should be better. Secondly shrooms still need to be stepped on to activate while boxes have a larger proximity activation zone thingy (what ever it's called), so a better arm time doesn't mean much for the shrooms as you can still see were they where placed and avoid them while the boxes could be used as an instant cc/damage source when they should be used as traps. Thirdly boxes are superior forms of cc (fears>slows). And finally... a good ap shaco can already turn the game into a nightmare with good trap placement, imagine if they could have fast arming boxes... put it behind them then it fears them into the trap where they are cc'd and killed with little counter play. Not very fun for the victim.
The shrooms have a longer slows and deal much more damage .... and you can place them for lesser mana and shorter cooldown than Shaco's boxes .... The boxes can also be seen ... an ap shaco functions as a teemo ... only that we cant spam boxes the same way teemo spams his shrooms .... it is not fair still ... also the shrooms last longer than the boxes, are harder to take down since they have more durability, and a box can be insta killed even before being used .... Yes an ult should be stronger than a basic ability .... and the shrooms are way STRONGER than shaco's box ... Not to mention Shaco needs some love from riot... but I only ask for the boxes to act faster than they do ...
iHeyt (EUNE)
: You can block every skillshot with Shaco boxes. Also, they have AoE fear.
Not giving any newsflash there .... The fear they have takes more than a sec to proc ... that's the main point of this thread.
ChiTenshi (EUW)
: After the Earlier Change on his 'Ultimate - Noxious' Trap (a bit of a Nerf), his Win-Rate fell further below Average. Hopefully this Buff will bring him closer to the Average Win-Rate.
You're presuming that, or do you know for sure? If they changed a champion for the sake of win-lose ratio they should do nothing at all instead... it should be more about the way summoners play their champs .... it is still unfair in my opinion .... {{item:3070}}
: How do I counter Kindred?
Early game .... gank her hunt camps, jambush her jungle as much as you can .... remember she's incredibly squishy early game ... {{champion:35}}
Rioter Comments
: Why is Veigar getting nerfed?(actual question, no rant)
Because he deals huge amounts of AP dmg lol ... hate a fed veigar ...
: this guy has edited this post 2 or 3 times since i last said anything. he hasn't changed the pictures though, which look really similar to arctic ops Varus, and Akali's actual in game weapons. the stealth champions are part way to having a skin group with the criminals / thieves that Evelynn and Twitch has, why didn't he call it Jewel-thief Shaco and put it as a new member of that group? rather than trying to add another champion to a fully done series. you could suggest PROJECT any champion and it would work visually. the game already has 4 ninjas without skins, it's literally the most overdone thematic he could've chosen. i'm sure they will release all of the champions as project skins sooner or later, so it's whatever to me.
No edits .... it says exactly the same I posted the first day I posted it ... and even if there were edits it would be to correct my english ..... Still I might add that a new Shaco skin could draw inspiration from Spider man's Carnage. As far as I'm concerned, Artic Varus doesn't look like a cyborg, and even if Gray Fox ressembles AO Varus I said they could use the idea to create a skin instead of making a similar one ... the english is correct and takes that sense ... just saying, "for a good listener, haf word is enough".... Concerning the weapon and the fact that they are akali's weapon, I completely forgot about her... I only thought of a real ninja.... but just like the comment follow ... different stylisation to fit the skin ..... again everyone draws the conclusions they want ... in order to look so sure of themselves .... Jewel-thief could be a good idea too .... yet I would prefer to have a more serious skin for Shaco ... there you go.
: every shaco is crit shaco, read his Q
It's part of his kit.... but you can either play him IE, Stakhiv, RavHydra, I mean go full AD Crit... and be useless in the late game .... Or build .... Red Cinder, RavHy, Dead Man plate, thornmail, steraks, and boots (I usually take berserkers for AS, but it is up to you that)... You still deal a good amount of dmg and you can be useful for your team all game long....
MicroBr3w (EUW)
: "Oh, no...."
> [{quoted}](name=MicroBr3w,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=ZvmnK8LT,comment-id=,timestamp=2015-09-18T12:36:03.125+0000) > > During champ select, what champs cause you to think "oh oh, we're in trouble" when they are picked by the enemy team? Pick up to three. > > Here's mine: > > 1. > {{champion:107}} > 2. > {{champion:92}} If you have probs with Rengie hihihi I have to doubt your gameplay (probably not we all have those champions we're always going to have probs with) My picks are: 1. {{champion:1}} 2. {{champion:72}} 3. {{champion:114}} /{{champion:92}} (these two share the same position as I have similar problems with them...) The ones I feel ease with are: 1. {{champion:107}} 2. {{champion:64}} 3. {{champion:76}} Playing as {{champion:35}}
: I'll listen to the jungler if he deserves it. The rest of us aren't the only ones making bad calls, I've seen some rather terrible calls made by jungler too. Particularly me, whenever I play jungler, which is as rare as I can manage, because I despise it, lol. Way too difficult. Definitely the most difficult role to play, in my opinion :)
I main the jungle and I wouldnt say it is the hardest to play .... but it is the one that gives you more responsabilities and pressure... the other lane being mid.
Lsayu (EUNE)
: People don't trust each other. Often in botlane too, where trust is basically mandatory. I see too many people just deciding their partner is shit and then lose the lane to nothing other than self-fulfilling prophecy because you denied your partner the support he or she needed. The same way people don't trust that their jungler is good, because so many of them have the mentality with one or more of the following: - I always get a team that afks or trolls - I'm at the place I am because I get matched with noobs - I want role A because only I can play role A and if someone else gets it I'm going to scrutinize his every move to prove to myself (and team-mates, and enemy in all-chat...) that he is noob. - our mid/jungler/bot gave first blood, gg. - our jungler failed a gank, trash; gg Basically they play league not 5v5 but 1v9.
on ranked the only thing I say is .... I don't play ADC, I main jungle, all the other roles are so-so ... this way ppl wont give me what I don't want ... or blame me for this and that ... because I give them the choice of where to put me, and they are the ones taking the consequences by making me play roles other than the one I main ...
: since i play jungle i have to say EVERYONE CAN SOLO DRAGON i dont need all my team at drake to help me while taunting the entire enemy team to come help me as well instead help me for drake pressure lanes and make sure no one comes to check drake while i am doing it deny enemy path to drake just stop them coming and i will do my job go and pressure mid lane while i am doing drake which is something that rarely people do helping getting the 1st drake is ok but there is no need 5 people to take down every drake
xRaykim (EUW)
: Hey, I only read to "... love and respect in games.". Why? Because it's bullshit. If jungler is a moron that won't listen to pings or anything anyone says in a chat, then he doesn't deserve to be respected.
Yes but when all the lanes are pinging and guess what it is always the junglers fault .... well... listening to pings means nothing at all when you're shit and you can't play on your own ..... the jungler also needs to farm and take kills ..... also needs to counterjungle ... to ward and what not .... And the worse is when you play with certain champs .... I main Shaco, whenever the other team gets first blood it is always "shaco's bloody fault"... Learn how to lane first .... and ward to avoid surpise butt secks ...
: no, shaco is not a ninja, play a ninja if you want to play a ninja. meanwhile play your clown joke of a cheese champion
I guess you play against crit shacos ...
: {{champion:35}} "Why So Serious?"
He got a shaclone on his ass .... the rage is real.
Rioter Comments
: Shaco is a flippin ninja!
C'mon he has everything, imagine his Deceive animated by a smoke bomb! His clones as the result of his speed just like goku used to do to clone himself ! Instead of shivs he would have "Sais" (tridents)
: Confirmed??!?!?
I would love to see this skin but for {{champion:35}} ! The only and true ninja of the game
Ebola san (EUNE)
: It's always April
that comment just made my day xD
Ulliete (EUW)
: The "juggernaut" thing. WTF ?
Darius is almost like the Katarina of ADs .... well I don't play him much so he doesn't bother me too much.... NOW .... Skarner????????? This bullshit with the crystals? An already low dmg super tank who is already slow will need to waste time with crystals that at the same time can be stolen by the enemy jungler and give them vision too ... well Riot you just made Skarner unviable... CONGRATS ! Did I mention that he does almost no dmg too ... and you're nerfing his dmg even more ?? Just sayin Skarner is the next brolaf
Rioter Comments
xLikeMike (EUW)
: Shaco
Why not all ? I only need the Nutcracko and Clockwork Shaco to complete the collection! But between Wildcard and Masked Shaco, one has different animations the other look creepier. I love them both
Káki (EUW)
: "Group mid", "All mid"
I'm {{champion:35}} ... I never group mid or group anyways.
TrustEdY (EUNE)
: Officer Leona Skin
Feminazis raging at maximum salt level will say she has a big cleavage... "so typical; showing dem biewbs" {{summoner:11}}

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