: > investigate the situation for 5 minutes What exactly would that investigation look like? Would you provide an army of workers always on call to judge these cases as soon as they happen? > if he's wrong, ban him for a week! How do you decide if he's wrong? What if he think he's right, but you think he's wrong? Won't you just have more "I was banned for no reason" complaints?
> [{quoted}](name=Torpedosheep,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=w6FAMG9n,comment-id=000100030000,timestamp=2019-03-18T15:35:32.021+0000) > > What exactly would that investigation look like? > Would you provide an army of workers always on call to judge these cases as soon as they happen? > > How do you decide if he's wrong? > What if he think he's right, but you think he's wrong? > > Won't you just have more "I was banned for no reason" complaints? first of all, that is a post-trolling resort! you can give the player the option to wait in queue for as long as it takes, but get his desired role! actually that's when the fill option in desired roles would make sense! but since you don't give that option to anyone, you have to put in more human resources and waste your own time and ours to get on cases in person. you can adjust your system to analyze player behavior... you guys don't really care about reports either! I reported a guy in support tickets twice in like a month for trolling in ARAM and he got no punishment! He buys no items at all and walks around the base the entire game! No matter how you define trolling, this guy is doing it... And he's still active and he still plays most of his ARAM games with no items and no engagements! I have no idea how I'm supposed to let you guys know that this guy is TROLLING! the answer I got both times is that you can't let me know of the result because of privacy concerns but I watched streamers report someone and get informed of the detailed punishment in 5 minutes! It leads me to believe that this is not a matter of privacy; it's just that Riot doesn't have time to get to my problem! The same way it doesn't have time to care about the simple 5 minutes I have to waste for some troll behavior -if only it happened once a day! Riot doesn't care because that's easier! Yet I see streamers complain about losing LP on their main role, while dodging a game where they're assigned another role, and BOOOM the positional ranks are gone because they're challengers and I'm some ordinary guy trying to have some fun! And as of the matter of deciding if someone is trolling; I don't see it as a diplomatic affair! Junglar doesn't gank your lane because you have heal on top lane? TROLLING! the case in this topic? DEFINITELY TROLLING! I play Ranked and the top laner bans my pick(ADC) and says fck you all? TROLLING! Someone in lobby says he doesn't like the random champ he got in ARAM and will sit around and watch the others play? doesn't dodge? gets reported twice? you say you investigate? you see he hasn't bought items in most of his ARAM games? TROLLING DUDE! HE'S TROLLING! How am I supposed to define something obvious? I lose my game because of that guy! the post owner has to wait like 10 more minutes because of someone else? OK it wouldn't kill him... I agree! at least not as long as it happens like once a week! But when he takes his time to submit a ticket, make a topic, come up with suggestions JUST TO HELP YOU CREATE A HEALTHIER GAME ENVIRONMENT, you can't just tell him to DEAL WITH IT! that's more toxic than the trolling players! It's your job to come up with ideas to fix the game that is making money for you, yet players are helping and you just don't care!
: Greetings. Obviously this behavior was not cool. Dodging that game is definitely understandable. It's really debateable to what extend you were "punished"... Cause waiting 5 Minutes probably won't kill you. I can understand that you feel like you came out short here, of course it sucks. ---- But I'd like you to actually think about this problem! **How would you avoid such a situation if you were in charge of the game?** Would you allow dodging under any circumstances? Would you allow dodging only if people troll? Then how exactly do you define trolling? And how do you build a system to differenciate?
> [{quoted}](name=Torpedosheep,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=w6FAMG9n,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-03-18T10:25:22.175+0000) > > Greetings. > > Obviously this behavior was not cool. Dodging that game is definitely understandable. > It's really debateable to what extend you were "punished"... Cause waiting 5 Minutes probably won't kill you. > > I can understand that you feel like you came out short here, of course it sucks. > ---- > But I'd like you to actually think about this problem! > **How would you avoid such a situation if you were in charge of the game?** > > Would you allow dodging under any circumstances? > Would you allow dodging only if people troll? > > Then how exactly do you define trolling? And how do you build a system to differenciate? Ask that player why he's dodging and then investigate the situation for 5 minutes which probably won't kill you either and then if he's wrong, ban him for a week! but if he's right, punish the guilty! It's not a matter of those 5 minutes! It's a matter of the guilty and toxic trolls getting by, while you have to suffer for it! And believe me a 10 minutes punishment(considering Queue time and champ select and stuff) is a lot of time for someone trying to have an hour of fun a day! And I define trolling as acting in a way that doesn't fit the situation... Declaring ill intentions to get to people and vent your frustrations... getting assigned top laner and wandering between your mid and outer turret early game! going Dark Harvest Blitz support and last hitting your ADC's solo kills! most of MOBA mobile games already have an option to report trolls, guess what? LOL doesn't even have a definition of that after like 9 years; though the game is filled with them!
Irarius (EUW)
: Why i personally dont want to play this game anymore... after almost 9 years
I agree with every single word you said dude. I only started playing this game last year and I instantly realized the only fun thing in this game is anything besides Ranked! I play normal SR games, just fine, sometimes 15 W 5 L out of 20. Then I go ranked, my support is Blitzcrank Dark Harvest! Top goes trolling cause I'm an auto-filled Junglar who hasn't ganked his lane in 5 minutes... 4 out of 10 supports are Lux with Dark Harvest and Death Cap first item... it's just a joke... And recently even ARAM isn't fun anymore... I play ARAM and some troll is in my team, few of the teammates know him and start asking him to leave or don't troll... He says he doesn't like this random champ and will sit aside and watch us play... buys no items and just wanders around base the entire game, I submit a ticket to report him, they say they take care of it, I check his match history in a week, he still doing it in like 70% of his games, I report him again, they say they can't inform me of the result because of privacy concerns, he's still doing that! I'm done reporting that guy... but then I'm watching a stream and suddenly a streamer reports someone, in 5 minutes he gets a message from Riot telling him they have banned the guy for 2 weeks... no privacy concerns? No mate he making money for Rito! I can complain for hours and hours... don't even get me started on champion shards and stuff since I live in Iran and have no legal way to buy RP and I just rely on free stuff which is 150 Orange Essence out of a weekly chest for me! Seriously dude they don't care... everything they tell you is just excuses... you're not supposed to have fun if you neither spend nor help them make more money... IT IS COMPETITIVE OF COURSE FOR YOU TO ADJUST TO THAT AND DEAL WITH IT!

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