: You simply don't want to see it. Make a new meta, without ADC's in it. Make it work. I believe in you. Good day.
: OK, lets do it. There is no APC that can shred tanks like Kog/Vayne. There is no APC that can do sustained damage to baron/dragon/turrets as well as dps carries like Kog/Vayne/Ashe/Twitch/Tristana There is no APC that can siege turrets better than Caitlyn/Tristana/Jinx. ADCs like Draven or Lucian rival the instakill burst of burst mages (not assassins, that's another category, burst mages) Want more of these "don't exist" examples? I'm not discussing the need for a balance between magic/physical damage.
again, i said examples. you've just made claims here to which i can easily just say Yes, there are plenty of APC that kill tanks like kog and vayne can (which there are) There are plenty of APC that deal sustained dmg. there are plenty of APC that can siege turrets (have you not heard of lich bane???) No ADC in the game match AP burst....you have got to be kidding. It takes an extremely fed adc at least 3 seconds to kill someone, it takes a regular non fed apc half a second to kill someone. You gave zero examples because you have none. good day.
: Tank shredding. Objective control. Sieging. Sometimes mobility. Sometimes dps. Sometimes even the burst.
Go ahead and give me examples rather than just blindly claiming they have these things, i guarantee you i can debunk any example of an edge that ad carries supposedly have. but you won't give examples, because they don't exsist.
: Why dont you Play an APC on bot then?
because having a purely magic damage team is a smart idea /rolls eyes why don't you ask a question that makes sense or has some thought put into it? oh right, no brain, which is why you cant see that ap carries have it infinitely better than ad carries.
: Not really, APCs mostly pack some CC on their own, giving them the ability to solo. ADC's are the only role to get a support to watch their back. APC's are mostly not capable of sustained dps needed to melt tanks.
Nope, not true, azir has plenty of sustained damage. as does malzahar, as does annie, as does ahri, as does cassiopeia, as does rumble, as does brand....i could go on and on, APC is riots favorite role and they treat them as such.
: Depends on the ADC and APC no?
Not really, it honestly doesn't. Generally speaking APC have an easier time csing, laning, dealing damage, teamfighting and have better roaming capabilities. not to mention higher burst and more evasion. APC is superior to ADC in itemization, damage, freedom of things to do while playing, and have better range even than ADC. There is literally not one category that ADC is superior in.
: > [{quoted}](name=Illazuel,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=R5qn7dEW,comment-id=00030000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-06-13T12:19:13.604+0000) > > whatever bud, just making yourself look stupid at this point. You mean, whatever bud, I insulted you without reason, and you were right that you can downvote threads from the list? Come on, I want you to admit it, before someone looks at your insults, deletes them and blocks you for few days :)
Honestly could not possibly care less. oh noes! my boards account for the game that is heading downhill VERY fast!!!! whatever will i do?!?!?! lel.
: > [{quoted}](name=Illazuel,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=R5qn7dEW,comment-id=000300000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-06-13T12:16:14.809+0000) > > pft, okay. Pft, I just called you lying crap of bag and told you that you are full of shit, but I tested it and I have seen I am wrong? At lest have the balls when you insult me, to admit I was right... dont just "pft, okay".
whatever bud, just making yourself look stupid at this point.
: I tend to play a lot of ADC and i also play a lot of support. Riot doesn't hate ADCs. Riot wants them to be teamplayers. Weak on their own. Super strong when protected. And...that's kinda how ADCs should be. Just take Kog or MF as an example. Have you heard recently their damage is off the charts? I bet you did. Because it's true. However, they are also immobile and completely reliant on their teammates. There is no way for a Kog to outplay a Zed. There shouldn't be. There is a possibility for Kog and Tahm Kench to outplay a Zed and that's totally fine.
So, if i'm ADC i have to constantly team play since im ADC, but APC doesn't? seems like everyone and their dog would rather be the APC in that situation, or in other words, why does riot hate ADC?
: > [{quoted}](name=Illazuel,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=R5qn7dEW,comment-id=0003000000000000,timestamp=2016-06-13T12:11:44.727+0000) > > Nope, you cannot do that anymore, good try though. Theres even a whole riot post about it. Good try though, lieing sack of crap. Actually, you can do it. Nothing has changed...
: and that's how long Fizz has been OP for lol.
Lol, very good point. Its such an old joke and it is still being told for a reason, fizz has been horseshit since release and still is.
Tarolock (EUW)
: then why dont you play with him to learn his weaknesses and next time youll know what to do against him?
Weaknesses? name one.
: By this logic toxicity only bothers retarded people. You are making it too easy for me, buddy.
Can't expect someone with an argument as irrational as his to understand logic.
Xenoid (EUNE)
: Hello, In my opinion, the "loot" system influenced your loss streak. Ever since it came, most players try hard to get an "S" grade.
I could see this being partially to blame in combination with DQ
Loonsta (EUW)
: IM SICK OF THIS RIOT AFK AFK AFK AFK AFK AFK
Dynamic Queue is going to be the death of this game eventually, or they will take it out after it causes some damage
: How Riot made the playerbase accept Dynamic Queue at first
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
Lol yep. and you are welcome to say whatever u want to me dude, unlike most people i don't get irrational and violent when someone has a different viewpoint than my own. Its a shame the rest of the world isnt that way. Also, by the same "your freedom ends where someone elses begins" applies to what im saying, just because some thin skinned puss is in my game doesnt mean i should have to walk on eggshells or lose my account because they suck at the game and ontop of this want to insult me while i try to carry them in vein.
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
Lol yep. and you are welcome to say whatever u want to me dude, unlike most people i don't get irrational and violent when someone has a different viewpoint than my own. Its a shame the rest of the world isnt that way.
: I think that you might have missed the point of my post. What I am saying is that, if you are right and that he is OP, then surely he would see more play by pro players. I don't see him banned much in those games either. Which makes me think that there are better champions out there? I agree that he can be a nightmare to play against but that is more indicative of my skill than his ability.
because pro players can practice and make strategies together as well as count on their team mates for help, the fact that he is not picked in LCS play means nothing and the two cannot even be compared. Apples and oranges. or do you really expect 5 random people to do what they do in lcs?
Tarolock (EUW)
: it still has a range at which he can cast it on you...
oh, so i just cant go anywhere near zed all game. that makes so much sense in a game based around contesting objectives.
SteveMineru (EUNE)
: Actually noone disliked me, I got reported as a joke not from someone getting mad, and I would accept the ban if I did that when I was with strangers / in ranked.
oh no i get it. Its hilarious that you did nothing wrong and got banned and it shows how horrible this system really is. All it takes into account is number of reports clearly, which is fucking horrible.
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
Exactly my point about taunts. And having laugh emotes. And free speech. If you are going to censor rude words, then we must do away with all rudeness in any form, which leaves us with hello kitty island adventure. Here's a tip: If you get your feelings hurt easily, Do not spend your time online.
SteveMineru (EUNE)
: Account suspended for being reported by friends as a joke
Just shows you how little it matters how you behave and that you will get banned for no other reason that people disliking you. Not actually doing anything wrong.
visje (EUW)
: Can't win anymore
Its dynamic queue, you are likely solo queueing and you shouldn't do so until they remove this monstrosity from the game. The reason you lose is you are playing against people who know each other and are going to work together using their unfair numbers advantage over you. Seriously quit playing ranked until this is over, im a plat player and i cant climb out of silver with dynamic queue. call me a liar whatever don't care. truth is ranked is no longer about skill
: How to report people who are being obviously boosted
This is how dynamic queue works now. People boosted beyond where they belong simply for having team mates.
: Incredible raise in toxicity levels?
You can thank dynamic queue for turning ranked into a worse version of blind pick.
Viavarian (EUW)
: You don't get banned for being rude, unless you really overdo it. You get banned for insults, whining, negativity, personal attacks, passive-aggressive behavior. Chances are you just don't know the difference.
No, i'm well aware of the difference, I just think it is a child's way of dealing with things. Go run and tell mommy so she can take his toys away cuz he said a mean thing to you on the playground, you poor poor baby. This is literally how punishment in this game works. They don't actually watch the game to see who is truly being toxic and who is just getting upset about it, they just ban people for saying mean people to the people who are wasting their time and effort. I feel bad for these people out in the real world where there is noone to protect them from the mean things people say to them. People who support this kind of crap are pathetic. He said something mean! arrest him officer! my feelers are hurtied!
: The problem I find with Zed is not the midlane. Because for example: {{champion:127}} {{item:3157}} = {{champion:238}} {{item:3070}} So a midlaner only loses against him if he wants. The problem is that from lvl 6 on, he won't look to feed on mid. Now he can just feed on the ADC the entire game, getting the reward of taking control of the game at very little effort and NO RISK. Someone said that a champion being countered by a single item was bad and toxic. Yeah... and having a team being forced to have to pick 5 champions around him, along with having the ADC build Sterak's before crap hits the fan , and the support having to be forced to pick from a VERY strict pool of supports that can kind of work around his damage (basically, MEANINGFUL shields and heals) to a meaningful extent, and again, having 5 people build strictly around Zed to avoid being run over by him after giving him half a kill...while being forced to disregard what the other 4 members can bring to the table... that's healthy right? Wrong. Zed indeed needs skill to play, but the problem is you don't have to even play him at 50% of his skill ceiling to completely run over a game while enemies, no matter how good they are, only have the choice to pick entirely against him, risking that his teammates will be free to do their own thing, or not do it and stand there and watch powerlessly as your game goes to hell. And that's the problem. I'm not against a champion that has a bigger skill ceiling being able to get better results. I'm against him not having to even reach half of his skill ceiling to be able to get better results than others. That's where the word toxic comes in. Little skill required to be effective. Little risk, especially before it's already too late. WAY TOO MUCH OF A REWARD. Toxic.
excellent, intelligent, well written post. Wish i could give you a plus 20
: And yet... According to probuilds.com, he is not in the top 25 win ratio list or in the top 16 most played. I didn't go further down the list to see exactly where he is but he is not getting played that often -> [Look here](http://probuilds.net/champions/details/Zed) You don't see him get picked in LCS or banned that often. If he was that OP then surely the pros would be tearing up the rift with him on a regular basis. As someone else has said...Zhonya's Hourglass could be the answer to your problems?
Kinda hard to win games when you are banned constantly. Yep, im aware there are a few counters to zed, they also happen to be absurdly op and need nerfs. Did you have a point or were you trying to use winrate as an excuse for zed being horrendously OP? don't answer, rhetorical question, zed main. 80% ban rate in platinum and above, but no, he isn't OP at all. Whatever you need to tell yourself to believe that you are good.
: More like season 2...
More like season negative 4 amiright? zomglez
: You get upset by pixels on your screen taunting you and yet you wish to propose how others should raise their children. Now. You say ''you dont want emotes removed''. In the next sentence you say they should ''remove emotes''. You are confused. Stop raging at pixels laughing at you. They aren't real. Its just a bit of fun.
Here's what you don't understand. I'm making a point. The emotes don't actually offend me at all, similarly to how people don't actually offend me at all online, because I am not a whiny 7 year old child in a 30 year old body. Stop raging at people giving you their opinions of you. Their opinions shouldn't matter to you if you have any kind of self confidence or backbone. It's just a bit of fun.
Tarolock (EUW)
: why do you let him close to you then? just poke him with some ranged abilities and he cant do anything :D
> [{quoted}](name=Tarolock,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=OoPuZE6N,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-06-12T14:24:47.071+0000) > > why do you let him close to you then? just poke him with some ranged abilities and he cant do anything :D Let him? are you joking? you are aware of how his ultimate functions right? That it is a targeted ability and makes zed disappear completely for 2 seconds and then appear ON TOP OF YOU, thus closing the gap for him no matter what you do?
: So what exactly do you propose? Removal of emotes? Or are you just here to have a moan?
Good question. I propose that people raise their children properly for several reasons -They don't behave like little shit heads on online games. -They have enough self confidence and backbone to handle mean things being said And, no, I don't want emotes removed. My point is that if you are going to ban people for being rude, then you probably should remove emotes as well, because it makes the same amount of sense.
rastko2005 (EUNE)
: Why can't fizz stay on his pole for longer than a second?
Yeah, and why can't tryn be invulnerable all the time?? you could just nerf his movespeed or something to compensate #riotbalanceteam
bulz7 (EUNE)
: As of patch 6.9: "The actives of Quicksilver Sash and Mercurial Scimitar now only remove crowd control debuffs".
Yeah, I was just pointing out that its fairly irrelevant anyway, since QSS gives you MR and zed deals physical damage. But good point none the less, can't even QSS his ult anymore....which needed to happen *rolls eyes at zed players*
Joyi (EUW)
: Logical counter-counterargument: Riot has a system where they put 5 random players on one team in an extremely competitive environment with no voice chat or ease of communication aside from typing and expect them to be nice to each other even when 1 player sabotages 40 minutes of the other 4 player's time?
+1 for explaining it so that I didn't have to. Nice explanation too. Would also add that riot encourages the toxicity by allowing players to taunt and laugh at each other via game play.
: How its suppost to stop flame?
The ugly truth about this matter is that this game is very toxic. Riot is toxic. The community is toxic. Honestly, i'd think there was something wrong with you if you weren't raging occasionally. Do not give into the herd mentality. It is perfectly acceptable to yell at someone who fucks up. It happens all the time in the real world. Its like going to work at a chemical plant and spilling toxic chemicals all over the place and then expecting your superior to pat you on the back for causing millions of dollars of damage. Riot lives in a fairy tale world where you can be as worthless as possible as a human being and other people will respect you and be polite to you for it. Grow up. All of you. There is no way to stop raging OP, just rage on and realize that throughout history, those who side with the majority are overwhelmingly wrong and stupid.
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Azure9861 (EUW)
: Are people using Dynamic Queue as an excuse for them sucking?
I'm just waiting for the day that gold and platinum start to play more like bronze and silver.
Azure9861 (EUW)
: I suggest lowering the time LB has to go back to a W by a second
I suggest we remove this derpy un fun champion from the game.
: > [{quoted}](name=KaXX,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=6U0lx9YK,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-06-09T10:05:37.074+0000) > > STOP THIS RAGE AND BLAMING over your team mates, it makes you loose the games. > For real, if you can't play a team based game with random people without blaming them over their mistakes, and constantly flaming to them this isn't game for you. Or just play with your friends who you can abuse all time. Try to act like a grown up! > Sometimes I just wonder how these rage kids can climb to platinum or higher.. > > **YOU DON*T WIN GAMES BY FLAMING, YOU WIN THEM BY TEAMWORK!** I think that their logic is more like : the game is lost, lets at least flame them while Im waiting for the next one...
You are close. It is more like : The game is lost, I'm going to at least try to get this idiot to realize how bad he really is by communicating his misplays to him in text form while insulting his intelligence because he is in fact the dumbest person i've had to deal with today.
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Aladyyn (EUNE)
: SoloQ is not coming back, Riot doesn't care about ranked solo players. Either you come to terms with that or stop playing.
Or you just wait for DQ to inevitably kill itself off when que times skyrocket for everyone but 5 man premades.
: Its because golds have to play vs challenger.when i was plat 5 i had a game with 1 challenger in my team and a master and 2 challengers in the enemy one.now as plat 1 playing with/vs challenger isnt rarely at all.and to wait 30 mins as a plat just to find ppl 3 tiers up isnt so healthy at all
Yeah, I've known for a long time that at least some of the "pro" players used unfair practices to reach their elo.
: A Song for the Hopeless
Yeah, i hear you and agree. It's so funny too because riot tells us we aren't allowed to do things such as taunt enemy players in the way you describe, and yet every champion in the game has a taunt and emotes that are frustrating as all hell. For example: Anyone who has laned against a taric who spams his gems emote.
: Leveling experience
This is what happens when you punish people for getting mad at toxic behavior, not the toxic behavior itself. Example: A guy is playing a ranked game on his main account. He gets an AFK or rager or flamer or troll on his team. He gets mad at them for being toxic. He is then banned for being toxic, thus encouraging him to play on his lowbie account and be toxic himself, as he will not get banned for actually being toxic, just for getting mad about it.
: My first (and last) ''omg what happened to this game'' topic.
I agree, as does most of the playerbase who isn't getting unfairly boosted by DQ right now.
CJXander (EUNE)
: I've voted NO, since dynamic Q was introduced i've managed to climb a lot, by solo queueing. I'm taking the advantage of premades assuming that they will only communicate with eachother and won't help the team :). Also if you want people to take this poll seriously you'll have to come with counter arguments why isn't dynamic Q healthy, not throwing just a simple question/sentence.
Spoken like someone who cannot climb on their own.
Giøn (EUW)
: Where do i find Eloboost in the boost´s section?
Usually under the champion page, buy the new ones, they are almost exclusively better than older champs because riot is getting increasingly bad at balance
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