: The garbage called Matchmaking
Kinda strange , recently I played against / with Plat players even though I'm just Silver 2 lol. Honestly I don't have problems playing against plat players because I always learn something new from them. The problem is that the teams aren't equal in terms of skill level , one team can have 4 silvers and 1 plat and the other one can have 4 plat and 1 silver so that's not really fair.
: A Guide on how to climb and Improve in Season 7 from a Master Mid Main
I'm a main ADC , as you may know ADC is a role that relies mostly on your support and teammates. Let's talk about Silver-Gold elo , many of them don't peel properly and no matter how skilled I am , I will die in team fights. Support plays too passive , misses many opportunities on free-kills and good engages , I realize this but I can't do anything about it (Cause 1v2 botlane is nearly impossible in laning fase since Silver/Gold players have a brain). For instance in Challenger/Master main Marksmen have the highest rank , why ? Because their pro jungler and support are always there to make excellent engages and protect them from any threats and thats why they're able to carry so much. However in low elo (Silver/Gold) , you get NONE of this , so the question is : How am I supposed to carry as an ADC ? From watching Challenger streamers I realized that I learn only about mechanics but not about how to carry a low elo team which from my prospective is a totally different thing (And even meta). Should I change my main role to jungle/mid to climb faster ?
: Why on earth did riot think it was a good idea to buff assassin's?
Actually the ADC role had always the biggest carry potential. For instance in Challenger/Master , the players with the highest rank are main marksmen , why ? Due to their good team coordination and excellent peeling. A team that lacks coordination and good peeling / protection , any ADC becomes pretty much useless (Not entirely but doesn't have much chance to carry). Basically your team has to "carry" you and you carry them even more in return. However you must be very skilled in order to do that and this shows a big difference between a bad and good Marksman.
TeeTohr (EUW)
: Diamond Ad Carry answering every questions asked
How can I 1v2 bot lane ? I know it seems stupid but as you may know in low elo you usually get bad teammates. Most of the supports are just walking statues and miss many opportunies on getting a free kill. The enemy bot gets free AAs in their face but that's about it (Including bad positioning) , if the support doesn't do a decent engage , I just can't kill them. Well I get decent supports sometimes but that happens only in 3-4 games out of 10. You may say "Just farm" and trust me that doesn't work if the enemy mid - top gets so fed that I can't do anything about it.
Enlight13 (EUW)
: So yeah.
Looking at your profile , you're currently sillver , former gold in previous seasons. So I'm assuming you actually are a gold who has a pretty hard time carrying silver games. Lemme tell you this : silver games are the MOST difficult to carry and it has been proven by many high elo players. It's hard to carry because teammates have little game knowledge , team-fights aren't coordinated , kills>objectives , useless deaths , taking an advantage but throwing it at the end. You should always adapt yourself to your teammates playstyle , If they're bad you just have to carry it yourself , if they're good enough , trust them. Even high elo players can't carry those games that easily simply because some plays that work in plat/diamond , don't work in silver (Team doesn't follow). I suggest you to play with a premade ADC , so you can plan strategies with him through TeamSpeak and make sure he follows up every time you engage , that's the best way to climb as a support.
GO0D GUY (EUW)
: URF isnt fun
Because many players hate losing , so when they don't get kills and start dying , the game suddendly becomes not fun. I think there are too many tryhards out there , no matter what mode they play , they must win the game.
Rioter Comments
Kinez333 (EUNE)
: Problem in this game(Ranked)
I think a player who was Diamond 3 should be able to climb through silver/gold/plat pretty easily because of the skill gap / game knowledge. Honestly it's the first time I see a Diamond elo player complaining about solo queue and how many bad teams he gets. I don't know maybe you are too accustomed playing with Diamond players where everybody know their task but in low elo you can't really expect someone to play properly. However a player like you should know exactly how to win/carry a game by analyzing team comps , picking the best champions and having a specific plan in your head despite having bad players in your team.
: Vayne
Vayne is a viable / strong pick in lane but definitely not a top tier adc. You must be a mechanical dog to use her to her full potential because of the low range and every skillshot is based on a single target , so you need to switch targets very often which is hard. Due to her range (550) , she must get close to the enemies , so she's automatically exposed to danger while other ADCs are way more safer than her.
: Yes, but how many other peoples MMR will he lower in the process? The fact remains: A matchmaking system, which bases its decisions purely on a win/loss ratio, which is dependent on the actions of **TEAMS**, to perform the matchmaking process for **INDIVIDUALS**... ...is not an objective system, its BS.
> [{quoted}](name=franticFurball,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=6AbPirXk,comment-id=000200000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-02-27T13:31:23.018+0000) > > Yes, but how many other peoples MMR will he lower in the process? > > The fact remains: > > A matchmaking system, which bases its decisions purely on a win/loss ratio, which is dependent on the actions of **TEAMS**, to perform the matchmaking process for **INDIVIDUALS**... > > ...is not an objective system, its BS. You're right but how would you change the system ? Do you have any better ideas ?
: >Sorry my bad but my point was that everyone can choose how they want to approach the game. But not everyone else should be forced to put up with it. If someone plays badly, and wants to play that way, fine. But when he still gets a better MMR, because the 4 other players in his team went above themseleves and carried that guy, which for some reason grants him the right to be placed in a team with even better players next game, then there is something **SERIOUSLY WRONG** with the system.
> [{quoted}](name=franticFurball,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=6AbPirXk,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2016-02-27T13:13:12.734+0000) > > But not everyone else should be forced to put up with it. > > If someone plays badly, and wants to play that way, fine. > > But when he still gets a better MMR, because the 4 other players in his team went above themseleves and carried that guy, which for some reason grants him the right to be placed in a team with even better players next game, then there is something **SERIOUSLY WRONG** with the system. You have a point there but he will eventually drop down.
: When did I say, there's something wrong "being unskilled?" Why are people writing this all the time, when I clearly said in my thread, that I have nothing against being unskilled? And like I said there's a difference between "being unskilled", and "obvious feeding avoiding.", but you talk only about the unskilled part, like you've completely ignored my content...
> [{quoted}](name=Shiro Kurimu,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=6AbPirXk,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2016-02-27T12:52:39.259+0000) > > When did I say, there's something wrong "being unskilled?" Why are people writing this all the time, when I clearly said in my thread, that I have nothing against being unskilled? And like I said there's a difference between "being unskilled", and "obvious feeding avoiding.", but you talk only about the unskilled part, like you've completely ignored my content... Sorry my bad but my point was that everyone can choose how they want to approach the game. It's a different thing if they just don't realize that they are bad and blame others , these players are really stubborn , it takes some time to make them realize.
: Why are there only "Threads", about the toxic players and why not about the "unskilled players?"
There's nothing wrong with being "unskilled" , every player can choose between competitive play or just play for fun. However I don't think there are many skilled players , so the majority of us don't have that much of skill in terms of mechanics and game knowledge. The percentage of "skilled players" is really small if we are talking about High Elo , anyone below high elo can't be considered "skilled" , including myself.
: Ha! When has low range ever bothered Vayne? She has a tumble gap closer as well as the ability to condemn stun targets. Condemn even negates some of the problems of being short ranged by allowing Vayne to get away from targets that stray too close. She is *not* weak in trades as tumble + 3rd strike ***percentage maximum health true damage*** allows a great deal of damage, which is added to by her ability to make the trade completely with either a condemn *stun* or a timely *knock-back disengage*. Vayne is definately not "baby's first ADC" but that does not mean that she is difficult to play. Her main problem is the *percentage maximum health true damage*. Remove the true damage aspect for physical or magical instead would make her increasingly fairer to play against. A mechanic that has little to no counterplay like that is not healthy. What I would like to see is mechanics like Vayne's true damage to be removed, just so you can see if people are actually *good* or just being carried by over the top advantages. Seriously, I am sure so many people would find out that they were not actually skillful because they can not live without the zero-counterplay mechanic. Vayne is not the *only* bullshit champion out there. There are many more who I would like to see have their unfair mechanics removes, for a short time, to point out what is actually carrying you through those games. Vayne is only a bigger problem because her problem has been ignored for far too long. No need to remove her tumble, or her condemn, just the damage. You can keep her high skill cap while removing the toxic damage she does. A percentage of any champion's health is still very harsh. Also, winrate does not mean that a champion is balanced. It can *suggest* that a champion is overly strong, but you also have to look at how well that champion did in that game (K/D/A) and would have to make an analysis of every play that champion made in every game. A champion could have a 100% Winrate because 10 people play their balls off being really good, but you could have another champion with 100% winrate played by 10,000 people who don't get punished for mistakes, have no need for thought when playing the champion and win with no effort on their part at all. 50% winrate could easily mean that half the people playing a champion are LCS players, and the other half are human-potato hybrids. Not that the champion is balanced.
> [{quoted}](name=Fleedling,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=dOGRpN6M,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2016-01-07T17:49:53.354+0000) > > Ha! When has low range ever bothered Vayne? She has a tumble gap closer as well as the ability to condemn stun targets. Condemn even negates some of the problems of being short ranged by allowing Vayne to get away from targets that stray too close. > > She is *not* weak in trades as tumble + 3rd strike ***percentage maximum health true damage*** allows a great deal of damage, which is added to by her ability to make the trade completely with either a condemn *stun* or a timely *knock-back disengage*. > > Vayne is definately not "baby's first ADC" but that does not mean that she is difficult to play. > > Her main problem is the *percentage maximum health true damage*. Remove the true damage aspect for physical or magical instead would make her increasingly fairer to play against. A mechanic that has little to no counterplay like that is not healthy. > > What I would like to see is mechanics like Vayne's true damage to be removed, just so you can see if people are actually *good* or just being carried by over the top advantages. Seriously, I am sure so many people would find out that they were not actually skillful because they can not live without the zero-counterplay mechanic. > > Vayne is not the *only* bullshit champion out there. There are many more who I would like to see have their unfair mechanics removes, for a short time, to point out what is actually carrying you through those games. Vayne is only a bigger problem because her problem has been ignored for far too long. No need to remove her tumble, or her condemn, just the damage. You can keep her high skill cap while removing the toxic damage she does. A percentage of any champion's health is still very harsh. > > Also, winrate does not mean that a champion is balanced. It can *suggest* that a champion is overly strong, but you also have to look at how well that champion did in that game (K/D/A) and would have to make an analysis of every play that champion made in every game. A champion could have a 100% Winrate because 10 people play their balls off being really good, but you could have another champion with 100% winrate played by 10,000 people who don't get punished for mistakes, have no need for thought when playing the champion and win with no effort on their part at all. > > 50% winrate could easily mean that half the people playing a champion are LCS players, and the other half are human-potato hybrids. Not that the champion is balanced. Many High elo / Pro players said that she's really weak in laning phase and hard to master. You said that she's not that hard to play and she is a super OP champion. So Basically those High elo / Pro players are all idiots spreading lies about Vayne , while your "theory" is 100 % true I guess ... If you really think that Vayne is a Free-Elo champion , why don't you try yourself climbing with her ?
: Smurf = Cheating
Purposes of smurfing : 1 - Verify if you really deserve your current rank on your main account (ex. Plat V) 2 - Have fun at destroying low elo players 3 - The MMR on the main account is really fcked up (ex. Diamond V) , you get 5 LP per win and you loose 10 LP per loss , so you have to start with a fresh MMR account From my prospective smurfing is really useful , especially to verify your own skill and if you really deserve your current rank. People make multiple smurf accounts just for that purpose. Getting smurfs in games is really rare and if you get them , you should consider yourself lucky. They usually punish you for even small mistakes and you will eventually learn from them.
: You're not allowed to learn new champs in a normal
Well you can't pretend from a Diamond 3 to play perfectly every role , he can do quite well with at least 3-4 other roles but there is always a role where you suck at :/ . The ones who play every role perfectly are D1 +
: To all people who are toxic :P
this is internet my friend , a place where people say things without thinking twice. If you care so much about these random flamers then this place is not for ya.
Metallix (EUW)
: Eu West down for 5 hours now. I vote free RP.
the NA was once down for 2 weeks and you complain about not able to play just for 5 hours. All NA players got 2k RP as an apology from Riot but you won't get anything for 5 hours.
Sarokh JR (EUW)
: is it just me?
I'm playing only ARAM , playing normals became pretty boring after this patch. Basically If one team picks Graves / Yasuo , they won the game no matter what their rank is. I played just one normal as a Gold 4 I won the lane against a Silver 5 which is normal and got 4 kills with renek. There was a Silver 4 Yasuo and he got 2 kills and 75 cs at minute 15 while I had 135 cs and 4 kills , guess what I tried to 1v1 because I had an evident advantage. When I almost killed him , he used his tornado + ulti + 1 AA and he took half of my health and I died. My flash was down and my E was on CD so I couldn't dodge his tornado but I didn't expect that he could kill a tanky Renekton with an Ulti + 1 AA , this damage it's just ridiculous. After this he got 2 pentas , only by AA his enemies.
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=Infernity Vei,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=WawBuERE,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2015-11-10T17:00:37.676+0000) > > It took me just 2 weeks of hard work to climb from Bronze 1 to Gold 4. No matter how many trolls / feeders I had I still carried those games and never cried for being stuck. My main goal was the improvement not the rank , I couldn't care less about the rank , honestly I didn't even realize when I got gold 4. If you have the improvement as the only goal , you will climb for sure. B1 to G4, you must be a smurf or extremely talented to get their in just two weeks... edit: just did a quick check up, you started playing ranked since S3, so your lying..
> [{quoted}](name=Indirulz123,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=WawBuERE,comment-id=00040001,timestamp=2015-11-10T18:54:18.222+0000) > > B1 to G4, you must be a smurf or extremely talented to get their in just two weeks... > edit: just did a quick check up, you started playing ranked since S3, so your lying.. In S3 I played a few ranked games , didn't even put much effort in these games. In S4 same thing got placed in Bronze 1 and rarely ever played rankeds till the end of the season. Then in S5 I decided to put some effort to improve as a player and I watched many guides about league and then I played many normals to test the new things that I learned by watching guides. After this I started playing rankeds and got placed in Silver 3 and I won many games in a row and got Silver 1 (3-4 days playing rankeds). Took me 4-5 days to pass to Gold V and then stopped playing rankeds for 3-4 months. When I restarted playing it took me a week to get to Gold 4. Now I just practise on normal / team builder because it's pointless to play ranked right now.
Grimmrok (EUNE)
: Is it impossible to climb the ladder from hell?
It took me just 2 weeks of hard work to climb from Bronze 1 to Gold 4. No matter how many trolls / feeders I had I still carried those games and never cried for being stuck. My main goal was the improvement not the rank , I couldn't care less about the rank , honestly I didn't even realize when I got gold 4. If you have the improvement as the only goal , you will climb for sure.
gnvL (EUW)
: Bronze/silver truly is elo hell
It took me just 2 weeks of hard work to climb from Bronze 1 to Gold 4. No matter how many trolls / feeders I had I still carried those games and never cried for being stuck. My main goal was the improvement not the rank , I couldn't care less about the rank , honestly I didn't even realize when I got gold 4. If you have the improvement as the only goal , you will climb for sure.
: Shy 19y/o boy looking for a FEMALE friend
Why so many downvotes ? I think this troll thread is hilarious xD
: [Resolved] [07-11-15] Unable to login
Ammaar (EUW)
: bronze help
Well it seems your "best" is not enough to carry in bronze , try to improve and make less mistakes.
Sayainji (EUW)
: What if.. division skin
Everyone likes your idea but Rito doesn't care.
BenasBr (EUW)
: Need an advice
Talon is very vulnerable when his Cutthroat is on cooldown. Try to take advantage of the situation when it is on cooldown. Also his early damage lvl 1-3 is really low, try to use this in your advantage, and harass him.
Eeten (EUW)
: How about a little Change to the Ranked Promos next Season ?
: Search for the best ARAM players
: Why do we need promo games?
I don't really agree because it would be easier to climb and get ranks that you don't deserve. The League rank system determines your skill / game knowledge and it puts you in a division where you should be. If promos were removed , at this point I would be Gold 1-2 , a rank that I DON'T deserve yet . The important thing is not the rank itself but the improvement you did to get that rank , actually many players think " Oh If I get Gold/Plat , It will be so cool , I'll have a plat/gold border and a nice symbol in my profile" but being plat / gold is that really important ? Well for many players who have cheap goals yes but for a player who only thinks to improve his skills / game knowledge the answer is no , his ONLY goal is the improvement NOT the rank. Having improvement as the only goal will make you achieve ranks without you even noticing and get even higher. Besides that Riot won't even consider the idea of removing promos , so our / your hopes are in vain.
: permanent new game mode
: Smurf adventures
Bronze logic -------> Blitz
Zhonyas (EUNE)
: logic
Morgana is indeed a tank
Vionicesca (EUNE)
: It goes the other way around as well. if you're Soraka and your ADC is bad, there is not much you can do. I mean, sure, I try to help but what can I do when he walks right into a Blitz who is sitting in a _warded _ bush?
> [{quoted}](name=Vionicesca,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=hFe8tEyx,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2015-10-19T10:19:40.224+0000) > > It goes the other way around as well. if you're Soraka and your ADC is bad, there is not much you can do. I mean, sure, I try to help but what can I do when he walks right into a Blitz who is sitting in a _warded _ bush? You just let him die , if this goes on then try to roam and help mid , say to your adc to just farm under the turret and it will be ok. If the midlaner is already winning the lane or even fed then there's no point in roaming , just stay in botlane.
: Survival on the rift, tips and pointers part 2 : Bot lane
Your tips are good but you can't rely too much on a random support in solo q because no one can tell what he might do. If a support is bad you have to try to win the lane yourself or play safely until the jungler ganks. Playing with a premade support is a different thing , through Skype / TeamSpeak he will tell you when he wants to engage or not and also all his plans. For example I play Vayne only with my premade support because she is an ADC tha relies on support help , If I play alone , I usually use Jinx since with her you can farm safely and pull out some good plays even with a small help of your random support.
Gazelca (EUW)
: Thanks for your reply, i get it where you're going with it :) I'll keep an eye on my mistakes and try to get better... But i guess it will be hard because as i've posted i commonly get in situation where only ultra safe play can deny enemy bot lane getting kills, but i guess i'll just have to try harder... Thanks again!
> [{quoted}](name=Gazelca,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=6IA2sPLI,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2015-10-15T17:58:12.520+0000) > > Thanks for your reply, i get it where you're going with it :) I'll keep an eye on my mistakes and try to get better... But i guess it will be hard because as i've posted i commonly get in situation where only ultra safe play can deny enemy bot lane getting kills, but i guess i'll just have to try harder... > Thanks again! You usually play ultra safe because you use Vayne. Let me remind you that Vayne is really weak in lane phase and you can be killed pretty easily. Vayne is a champion based on mechanics / game knowledge and locating enemies mistakes , if you can't locate enemies mistakes you can't play her to her full potential and get fed in early. However Vayne benefits from a long lane phase because she becomes really strong after she gets Btork and lvl 6 power spike , at this point you can probably 1v1 anyone and all in with your support any time. If you really like playing her , I suggest you to play duo with someone and communicate through TeamSpeak / Skype because as I said she has a very weak lane phase and can't do much in the first 3-4 lvls , with a premade support you'll have a higher chance to get fed in early. I don't suggest to play her in low Elo without a premade support since you can't predict what's your random support gonna do. Instead of picking Vayne , try to play Jinx or Sivir (When playing alone) these champions are based on pocking in lane and require less mechanics , even if your support is bad , you can still pull out good plays without you getting killed.
Gazelca (EUW)
: Always getting shitty team in ranked
If you want climb and get better , you have to put effort in every game and learn from every tiny mistake because playing the same / usual way for many games it won't help you at all. If you think you already putting effort and you can't win , it means you have to put even more effort. Your teammates aren't the main reason why you lose , the fault it's mostly yours because you probably didn't even try to win / carry the game. You might say "This is a team game" , yes it is but somehow this system (Solo q) is made in a way where only individual skill of every player matters and not of the whole team , if a player is more skilled than his team and the enemy team , he will climb up for sure. If a player (Like you) has the same skill as his team / enemy and doesn't improve / learn , he'll probably be stuck in that division. A real team game in solo q can only be seen in D1/Master/Challenger where players have the same skill level / Knowledge and solo carry it's REALLY difficult unless you play duo with someone because they learned almost everything from league of legends.
sonictest (EUW)
: hey guys if you want to win ranked you must choose champ is very goood and he can fight 1 v5 solo
: Whats up with Normals queue time?
It means you're challenjour
: Well I hope that u atleast play her decently? I hate seeing teammates picking Vayne into top and then going fullin in earlygame, feels totally sht. And in late they will just focus tanks. Like all the others.
> [{quoted}](name=Abysmal Scream,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=e8zHROat,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2015-10-11T19:18:01.778+0000) > > Well I hope that u atleast play her decently? I hate seeing teammates picking Vayne into top and then going fullin in earlygame, feels totally sht. And in late they will just focus tanks. Like all the others. Actually I carrying myself with her through Gold , she's the weakest adc in lane phase but she has one of the best late games. Players pick her having in mind that (Strong late) thinking "Even though I may fck up , late game is mine" well that's not really true. You have to be really careful in lane phase and make sure you get many CS. A Vayne who doesn't farm well , is not a good vayne. If you farm well and get Btork before your enemy ADC gets his first item (Ex. Infinity Edge) , well you can win botlane pretty easily. Another thing that bad vaynes do , is that they use Ulti without using the stealth , I mean they instantly tumble after they use R and start to AA. To use the ulti effectively you have to tumble mostly for defensive purposes because 1 sec. of invisibility , it REALLY confuses the enemies , make sure you don't AA until the stealth is over to find a safe position and then start to AA. A good example of stealth is in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pr0ZEW4ENI as you can see he used tumble to confuse Vi and made his escape
: Remove Vayne from lowelo.
I main vayne , I wouldn't say that I play her to her full potential but since I really like playing this champ , why not playing it ?
: How am i suposed to climb...
When everyone is feeding or playing bad it doesn't mean you're better or deserve a higher rank. A player is stuck in a division because it's his fault not of his teammates. If you want to climb , you need to improve as a player and prevent your teammates from feeding or help them when they're behind. In solo q you should only focus on your mistakes and fix them. Pointing out the mistakes of your teammates is totally useless , instead of blaming them , try to help them as much as possible and carry those games.
: How do I keep myself from flaming?
If you can't control yourself then muting everyone is the only option. Internet (Including online games) is such a place where people can write whatever crosses their minds because they are behind a screen. If I were you I would stop caring about people's opinion (That also applies in real life) , strangers can't say many facts about you because they don't know you in person , they just say many negative things about you that aren't even true.
: u cant just mute everyone, u need comunitation with ur team, if u mute them like that its going to be worse, only if u see that the situation is terrible
> [{quoted}](name=Majora haunted,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=o3Qnvy5m,comment-id=0000000000000001,timestamp=2015-09-25T20:02:17.211+0000) > > u cant just mute everyone, u need comunitation with ur team, if u mute them like that its going to be worse, only if u see that the situation is terrible Communication is important but muting everyone doesn't really affect anything (Depends in what elo you are) , muting everyone might help you to not get Emotional as Akalith said. If you want to communicate , you can use pings which are very useful.
VRChat (EUW)
: Story: Why the game isn't fun for me.
If your goal is to climb up the elo ladder then make sure that you don't listen to those complaints. Even If they are facts , they will only stop you from focusing on your playstyle. Solo q is about improving only yourself , not as a team , in every game you get different players and it's useless to complain about their mistakes , the mistakes that really matter are yours which determine whether the game will be lost or not. I suggest you to not expect anything from your teammates , If you expect them to play good then you'll think you can rely on them , NO just NO , don't rely too much on them because every player has his own playstyle and might do different things from what you expected. To make it clearier , I'll make an example : you're an ADC and you're playing with a thresh support after a while you realize that he can grab the enemy ADC pretty easily , you expect him to do that grab and you already going on the enemy ADC , there are 2 options : He successfully grabs the enemy ADC and you get the kill - N"2 He misses the grab because he's bad and you get grabbed by blitz (While you were going on the enemy ADC) and you die. That's just a mere example but in every situation there might be many options and you can't predict which option might happen that's why you should never expect something from your teammates. Another advice to improve is to watch many guides on youtube , streams and play many games with your favorite role/champion.
: Except we Riven mains already saw her get nerfed and called trash for the next 6 months when suddenly Jax/Akali and other stomper champs in Bronze/Silver got nerfed and people started using Riven for stomping which resulted in massive numbers of crythreads by players who are not even Platinum. The only opinion I would respect at this point is a Diamond 1+ player's. And those are the only opinions Riot will respect too, because they belong to players who play instead of crying. That's the harsh truth. I've seen this kind of crying a lot in my 4 years of League. Forums have been full of Annie, Trynda, Jax, Akali, Vayne, Kata and even Thresh, Morgana and Blitz crythreads. By full I mean the whole first page when you enter the forum. Would you like it if your main champion enjoys crucifixion on the forums by people who never played or understood your champ but feel like they obviously know better than the people who actually played the champ hundreds of games? And the number one argument is "It's your main ofc you will defend your freelo". Well, if it's so fucking FREELO, why are most ppl saying this in fkin SILVER or GOLD or even BRONZE?
I agree , actually only low elo players cry about it but i've never seen a diamond/Plat player saying that riven should be nerfed. Every Champion has weaknesses but it's our task to find out and it seems low Elo players are not able to do that
SKT Apathy (EUNE)
: How to Carry when... ?
Well if you feel that you play better than your opponents in botlane , you should always be aggresive and push your minions to their tower so you keep them under pressure. With this you will attract the attention of other lanes mid/top with tp/ jungler , they will try to gank but IF they don't get any kills , they will lose Gold/Experience and Time. So my idea is trying to be a big "problem" for the enemy team by destroying your opponents in bot lane , so they will gank often and lose time without getting any kills (If you are good at escaping and dodging their skillshots). This is just an idea but it might work some time to help your teammates to recover , get some CS and experience while the enemy team is desperately trying to kill you.
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Leopard III (EUNE)
: Whoever came up with those ideas to restrict everything probably has mental issues.
You got what you deserved , Riot made a lot of effort to make this system and you just sit on a chair behind a screen writing things that don't make any sense. You are insulting Riot even though they try to do their best to give a better playing experience to everyone , if you don't like the system you can uninstall LoL and never play again.
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