Zedant (EUW)
: Yeah I agree on that too. You didnt know it but I voted chat restriction,guess you did it too many times.
> [{quoted}](name=Zedant,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=AeG5hPEz,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-10T21:08:00.629+0000) > > Yeah I agree on that too. > You didnt know it but I voted chat restriction,guess you did it too many times. The problem is: I didn't really write anything in the last 20(ish) games. This was my first solo game in 30 games, so I doubt I did it at anytime. Usually when I play with somebody I can talk to, we just flame our teammates in voice, but almost never write anything.
Zedant (EUW)
: Yes there should. Its not about insulting someone,but the act of chatting/wrinting that much. Now: Why responding to flamer/trolls is not good and shouldnt be done: "Defending" yourself is stupid,why should you care about them,just go on, you cant change a flamer,riot already gave you all the tools to experience the game whitout flame if it bothers you. You might said Oh he trolled,yes,thats not ok,are you going to change his mentality by flaming him back and giving him what he wants? but then what can you do about it? Ignore,report and move on. Now why you should be punished a bit: After the first few words you would get its a flamer/troll and instead of focusing on the game,you chose to write in chat to "defend" yourself Noticed how I always used " " around defending? Its because you arent defending yourself,but rather responding to flame by making "jokes",you arent making jokes either,you're just flaming them back. This makes you just as annoying from the perspective of someone who want to play/win the game and thus not much better than a flamer for them and in my personal perspective no different at all,same annoying behavior. Writing in chat instead of playing the game(and its not like you are bring positivity or communicating) takes attention away from the game,which leads to more misplay. It affects me just as much as troller and flamers and I belive alot of people agree whit me.
> [{quoted}](name=Zedant,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=AeG5hPEz,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-09T19:42:35.394+0000) > > Yes there should. > > Its not about insulting someone,but the act of chatting/wrinting that much. > > Now: > > Why responding to flamer/trolls is not good and shouldnt be done: > > "Defending" yourself is stupid,why should you care about them,just go on, you cant change a flamer,riot already gave you all the tools to experience the game whitout flame if it bothers you. > You might said Oh he trolled,yes,thats not ok,are you going to change his mentality by flaming him back and giving him what he wants? > but then what can you do about it? > Ignore,report and move on. > > Now why you should be punished a bit: > > After the first few words you would get its a flamer/troll and instead of focusing on the game,you chose to write in chat to "defend" yourself > Noticed how I always used " " around defending? > Its because you arent defending yourself,but rather responding to flame by making "jokes",you arent making jokes either,you're just flaming them back. > This makes you just as annoying from the perspective of someone who want to play/win the game and thus not much better than a flamer for them and in my personal perspective no different at all,same annoying behavior. > Writing in chat instead of playing the game(and its not like you are bring positivity or communicating) takes attention away from the game,which leads to more misplay. > It affects me just as much as troller and flamers and I belive alot of people agree whit me. Yes I agree with you in some points. I could've focused more instead of answering them in a passive agressive way. Imo it should be okay wanting to get over with the game and surrender and flame back a little, I don't think thats enough to get punished. I also agree with you that I could've tried way harder to win instead of chatting, but nobody on the team really tried, everybody flamed each other and missplayed, including me probably. I assume with "punished a bit" you mean getting chat banned, which I could accept if you consider I wrote too much and didn't focus, but still I don't think this behavior should be punished with a 14 day ban.
: > [{quoted}](name=Jhín Beam,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=AeG5hPEz,comment-id=0004000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-09T15:28:49.211+0000) > > To be honest with you: I didn't really flame the past like 20 games, because i rarely play ranks and almost never get flamed by team and accused of griefing. I think it's kinda weird that i'm getting banned for using jokes, instead of direkt attacks towards my teammates. And yes, I thought i was safe, because i didn't use any words that get instantly flagged, like terms associated with suicide etc., and I thought that using jokes would be safe. But tell me - what term i used or sentence i said is worthy a 14 days ban? I already answered you: you take for granted (why?) that's the only game you have been punished for, while i frankly doubt it. Not because i don't believe you, but rather because it's apparent that you tend by default to minimize your responsability, so it's high likely that you DID attracted attention even before while being convinced otherwise (and why exactly playing normals rather than ranked should make some difference when it comes to flaming? Stay assured that most players WILL flame a lot in normals EXACTLY because they kinda think it's safe to do it because "it's not ranked", while, well, it's really not).
> [{quoted}](name=Sarchiapon,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=AeG5hPEz,comment-id=00040000000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-09T15:45:36.180+0000) > > I already answered you: you take for granted (why?) that's the only game you have been punished for, while i frankly doubt it. Not because i don't believe you, but rather because it's apparent that you tend by default to minimize your responsability, so it's high likely that you DID attracted attention even before while being convinced otherwise (and why exactly playing normals rather than ranked should make some difference when it comes to flaming?). So it's the only game i got banned for because of the messages. I only flame in ranked, because normals aren't so frustrating for me. I play normals with friends, to have fun with the game. I play ranked only to climb, which results in me getting way more tilted. In normals and in DuoQ Games i never write anything in chat, I mostly flame my mates in voice chat talking to friends. This is the only solo game in probably 20 games, so i really doubt I attracted attention before, maybe like 30 games ago(?). I take it for granted that i don't get banned because I think I said nothing offensive in any way and just joked about the situation in this game, but somehow Riot thought what I said was inapropiate. I really can't figure out what thing that I said was crossing the limit from "only another tilted player" to "offensive tilt-lord which needs to be banned".
: > [{quoted}](name=Jhín Beam,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=AeG5hPEz,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2019-10-09T14:01:01.109+0000) > > It wasn't "defending", it's more like answering passive aggressive with sarcasm, but imo i didn't write anything that is so offensive that i deserve a ban. If you think i wrote something that went to far, tell me. You probably upholded that behaviour for one too many games, as a result you were flagged as annoying and punished when it became clear it was not just a bad game. Your false step, in this case, was thinking that you somehow found the "magic quota" of arguing with your team, one that, god only knows why, you convinced yourself was safe and would have not brought you here. Well, i'm afraid you were wrong.
> [{quoted}](name=Sarchiapon,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=AeG5hPEz,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2019-10-09T14:54:23.380+0000) > > You probably upholded that behaviour for one too many games, as a result you were flagged as annoying and punished when it became clear it was not just a bad game. Your false step, in this case, was thinking that you somehow found the "magic quota" of arguing with your team, one that, god only knows why, you convinced yourself was safe and would have not brought you here. Well, i'm afraid you were wrong. To be honest with you: I didn't really flame the past like 20 games, because i rarely play ranks and almost never get flamed by team and accused of griefing. I think it's kinda weird that i'm getting banned for using jokes, instead of direkt attacks towards my teammates. And yes, I thought i was safe, because i didn't use any words that get instantly flagged, like terms associated with suicide etc., and I thought that using jokes would be safe. But tell me - what term i used or sentence i said is worthy a 14 days ban?
: Chat restriction for 10 games would do, i got banned on 2 accounts now 14 days for flooding chat, altho it's nothing good i dont tell anyone to go kill them selves or something real horrible, but yet i see those people still playing ... typical . Im playing now on another acc and after 10 games, still no chat restriction or ban, but then 1 game if i will flood again i guess it will be a ban and then they will add random games to it , like game 1-2-3 that u said stuff in chat, who da fuq cares, i want to win , not have a 1-10 guy with 30 farm in 20 min telling me it's winable and still inting .
> [{quoted}](name=Icy Slaughter,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=AeG5hPEz,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-10-09T13:55:29.916+0000) > > Chat restriction for 10 games would do, i got banned on 2 accounts now 14 days for flooding chat, altho it's nothing good i dont tell anyone to go kill them selves or something real horrible, but yet i see those people still playing ... typical . > > Im playing now on another acc and after 10 games, still no chat restriction or ban, but then 1 game if i will flood again i guess it will be a ban and then they will add random games to it , like game 1-2-3 that u said stuff in chat, who da fuq cares, i want to win , not have a 1-10 guy with 30 farm in 20 min telling me it's winable and still inting . Imo Chat restriction would be even too much, because i really don't think I offended them so much that any punishment is okay. It really weren't any direct insults oder anything like in directed towards them, exept maybe the flame at Kindred in the beggining, but something like this is written in every game, so not ban worthy imo.
: The good old "i was just defending myself"... {{sticker:zombie-brand-clap}}
> [{quoted}](name=Sarchiapon,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=AeG5hPEz,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-10-09T13:58:02.745+0000) > > The good old "i was just defending myself"... > {{sticker:zombie-brand-clap}} It wasn't "defending", it's more like answering passive aggressive with sarcasm, but imo i didn't write anything that is so offensive that i deserve a ban. If you think i wrote something that went to far, tell me.
GilxeN (EUW)
: As I said thousands times this system is utter mediocre trash, it does absolutely nothing besides looking for said phrase and a bad word. Either you are silenced in the game and forced to shut up or you lick everyones ass and spamming fake motivative word or phrase to increase honor level. Dumb as fk system and who ever thought this is a good idea to implement.
> [{quoted}](name=GilxeN,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=AeG5hPEz,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-10-09T11:33:54.071+0000) > > As I said thousands times this system is utter mediocre trash, it does absolutely nothing besides looking for said phrase and a bad word. > > Either you are silenced in the game and forced to shut up or you lick everyones ass and spamming fake motivative word or phrase to increase honor level. > > Dumb as fk system and who ever thought this is a good idea to implement. Trueeeee
: You deserve this ban. Next time ignore them and make them trigger and then report them. Just do the same they do, don't give a fck about the game and report your teammates after.
> [{quoted}](name=dikketietje,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=AeG5hPEz,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-10-08T19:37:47.784+0000) > > You deserve this ban. Next time ignore them and make them trigger and then report them. Just do the same they do, don't give a fck about the game and report your teammates after. So you are telling me i deserve the ban for talking back in a sarcastic way? Thats like punishing a kid thats get bullied for making jokes about his bullies. (I wasn't innocent, but certainly not provocating and insulting)
Zedant (EUW)
: Miao? Miao! Translation: You deserve a chat ban,why? Look at how much you typed, getting you off the chat for a couple game should teach a lesson,its not ok to repond to flamers or inters! (I know those are some long ass miao)
> [{quoted}](name=Zedant,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=AeG5hPEz,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-10-08T19:19:44.904+0000) > > Miao? > Miao! > Translation: > You deserve a chat ban,why? > Look at how much you typed, getting you off the chat for a couple game should teach a lesson,its not ok to repond to flamers or inters! > > > > (I know those are some long ass miao) Yes I typed much, but should there really be a punishment for talking back, using sarcasm and defending yourself?
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