L0513N70 (EUW)
: Could we kindly talk about how much Mordekaiser requires a nerf?????
have you ever played support where your team kinda rely on you and then you verse a morde my god you are minding your own business proving peel for your adc and all of a sudden you enter a 1v1 relm versing that %%%% and he one shots you coz you're squishy and can't run away and bam your team is losing the 4v4 because they have a support protecting the carries whilst i had to jerk of a suit of armour
: They can. But they wont. Cuz its abusable
as long as they make it harsher for the afker and not giving the affected team an incentive it shouldn't be abusable so if you afk then thats fine since you are gonna lose a shit ton of LP than usual but that doesnt mean that the team should give up because they will lose the normal amount of LP as a regular game
: You get more AFKs in the enemy team than in your team - on the long run. You CAN win 4v5. It doesnt happen that often, but a 4v5 is far from over. So, the problem is far less severe than you make it appear. Now to the question: What could Riot do about it? 1. Harsher and swifter punishments Those would be an option and might help. However, what if you got an emergency? what if there is a shutdown? I think we can agree that getting banned for this stuff would be really bad, so there needs to be some tolerance. 2. No LP loss The leaver could lose more LP (and MMR), while his teammates lose none or far less. This sounds like a solid idea, but im pretty sure league would get way more toxic. Not only would ppl immeadiatly give up once someone disconnects, i can already see the "omg noob pls leave so i dont lose lp". Seeing that both possible ways of dealing with afks in rankeds have severe drawbacks and the issue isnt THAT bad, i think its save to say that no, there is nothing Riot can do about this.
> Harsher and swifter punishments Those would be an option and might help. However, what if you got an emergency? what if there is a shutdown? I think we can agree that getting banned for this stuff would be really bad, so there needs to be some tolerance well in an honest opinion someone that rage quits will most likely be doing it in any game that they find difficult or frustrating so there can be 2 ways riot deals with this 1. when someone is afk'd many games in a certain time frame/limited (example 5 games out of 50) then they are served with a harsher punishment than teammates, example, team will lose 17 lp while leaver will lose 22lp (this is considering that they all have the same w/r since lp lose and gains differ but you get the point, if this rage quitter is bad and losing 20lp on average then they might lose roughly 26lp on a rage quit 2. when someone is afk then whatever chat robot thing that riot has to pick out flamers will have to run automatically on that game because someone rage quitting likely means that they flames before leaving or complained at least, if it looks for keywords (such as afk, 4v5, leave, or profanity) then it can be sae to say that they have rage quit and may be served with the punishment TL/DR: harsher punishment for prevalent afk without changing punishment for team so it cannot be abused as well as using the chat instant feedback automatically on afk games to see if the person was toxic which may indicate a rage quit
Salty Nami (EUNE)
: Lore of Qiyana - She really needs to work on her issues
> She really needs to work on her issues coming from the salty nami ^^
: Plat 4 Supp LF adc plat 5 plus + 18y/o
how are you gonna find a plat 5 adc?
Skorzx (EUW)
: Ranked system
1. no bronze is not the bottom, iron is 2. you don't necessarily start at the bottom, you kinda start at the bottom of you skill so when you played games before level 30 you playstyles are kinda monitored to see if you are smurfing or not and to match you with people in your same skill level 3. you you begin ranked your first 10 games is placement and this season riot implemented a new rank placement where it shows you your rank from placement 1 and your 10th placement game will put you into your rank 4. when i played mu placements i was getting like 70lp on wins so im guessing thats normal so you should be getting a lot of lp on wins during placements and then after game 11 you will be getting normal lp like around 20ish 5. i know start of season placements you are kinda matched with many skill capped players since everyone is starting relatively fresh so im not sure if its the same since we are halfway through season and everyone is already ranked.... what i mean is in my placement i was playing with bronze, silver, gold players since we were not officially ranked but now everyone is so i doubt we gonna get a first time ranked person in a gold game so i think you are playing with bronze and irons now, im not sure
: ***THIS***
Hexa XV (EUW)
: Riot can you disable banning champions that someone picked?
> It is frustrating that in so many rankeds lately people ban champion that I pick. In my OWN team who exactly are you picking, because when im gonna play something that i think my team won't like, i do not hovor that champion, because if they don't like you pick they will ban it. but recently i dont even show my champs because of the same reason of not liking what im playing so they ban it and the other reason is so if they champ select is dodged and someone who was on my team ends up ont the enemy they wont know who i was gonna play if i was gonna play a broken champ so just dont show who you want to play if it is an uncommon champ because chances are that champion wont be banned or picked but if you playing a common champ that gets banned regularly then show so your team knows not to ban
: South African server
my bru im also a south african gaming from my pozi in natal and i must say that there cannot be a ZA server for league because we do not have the player base here, yes we have a lot of players and when i lived in joburg and went to rage i met so many people who played LoL but it does not compete with the player base of NA/EUW ect who have millions, we may have probably 10k players, im guessing. so thats my first point, my second point is that our ranks are low, and a huge factor does came from our ms because you cannot do much with our delay and all the LoL players in zA i saw is low elo and im certain that there is a very very small percentage of players that are from south africa in diamond, maybe plat but the max i have seen is gold (im gold 1 for example) so the reason im bringing ranks up is because with our low player base and our irregular ranks you will be sitting in a queue for 30 minutes to an hour, maybe even more for ranked games and then the plat/diamond players won't even be able to find games so they might be forced to play with bronze ans silver and the skill gap will be a massive problem my third point is our internet sucks here, remember the majority of us have telkom wifi and they are not really good, oh yeah others got mweb, thats garbage. unless you have fibre or maybe vodacom you will have pretty bad connections and i doubt our ms will even be 20/30 not even 50 because i have a 10mb telkom line and my csgo is 170ms and thats a south african server i do wish that we had our own servers but at the end of the day it wont work, i have played EUW for 6 years with ms rising every season, started at 180ms back in season 3 and now 230ms in season 9 so we are getting %%%ed still but its manageable, just stay away from playing lee sin type of champs
: Well if you ever have the oppotunity to give an example feel free to do so There's always a posibility that it might be a display error since these lil images seem fine to me
C4libur (EUNE)
: just won a ranked game after afk but took no LP because of a F-ing Mosquito
so the game in question looks like an irelia game (because you are level 13 and everyone else on your team is 17/18 and you have the lowest gold in your team with a 3.8 gold difference from the LOWEST earner in your team) so you said you played the first 6 minutes and reconnected at minute 22, that game lasted 33 minutes which means you only played 17/33 minutes of the game or 51% of that game and looking at that match your team never needed you, the enemy team is sitting at level 14/15 while your team is 17/18 your team had a 14.3k gold difference and the score was 31/43 the enemy was sitting on 2 items while your team sat on 5 items they didnt need you and you only played 51% of that game, you should not be included with the winnings
: So now we have seen the Teemo strat work in master
i dont think its a good idea for the enemy adc to be able to free farm a 2v1 lane and possibly get free platings just to shut down a mid laner
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=KÌNDRÊD,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=fiumVc3E,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-06-12T07:24:47.096+0000) > > and please mate send riot a ticket and try to get it lift because you get 3 strikes > 1) chat restriction > 2) 14 day ban > 3) perma > > so if you already used up strike one on something so stupid like this then your next strike is gonna get you 2 weeks so try and get this lifted if you can so incase you do lose your shit in a game and swear someone you will get your rightful first strike instead of a 2 week ban Actually chat restriction has 2 stages 10 and 25 games. so probably his next one would be 25 games
> Actually chat restriction has 2 stages 10 and 25 games. so probably his next one would be 25 games oh really? well mb then
: Since you are intended to main the champion you have the option to get into more skill intensive picks. So options like {{champion:412}} are on the table. I think it's better I mention picks you shouldn't play: #Don't main, they get nerfed * {{champion:350}}: It's unknown how many nerfs she will recieve till she's ballanced * {{champion:555}}: He start to get picked in solo lanes. It's not broken but the risk of nerfing to dead is high * {{champion:223}}: We all known what is happening in toplane * {{champion:201}}: Used to be a good champion to master but lcs keeps nerfing him #Predicatable kit/Underloaded * {{champion:37}}: This might go against what some already mentioned but their is a reason I place her here. Sona is a champion that is currently in a very strong spot but we don't known when items change how she will endup. Her kit is very linair what limits your options in higher mmr. * {{champion:111}}: He's really strong right now. However I don't recommand you to pick him up as your main champion. Nautilus is a champion that is viable in multiplay roles. This is the first time he's meta in only one of them. Since we don't known what the future brings it's very unlikely this will stay that way. During the nature of his simple kit nerfs will be expected. * {{champion:53}}: This one is tricky, he's really good when mastered so the advice of not maining him might be a bad argument. The only reason I place him here is that he's very predicatable while having a really hard counter {{champion:25}} & a very anyoing safe adc {{champion:15}} where you can lane against. Overal you will have games where it feels like you are out of options. #Just counterpicks Strong champion in a certain situation but aren't required to be mained to play effectively {{champion:25}}, {{champion:26}}, {{champion:40}}, {{champion:16}}, {{champion:117}} #End So now my recommandation: * **Enchanters:** {{champion:267}} * **Catchers:** {{champion:412}} {{champion:497}} {{champion:432}} * {{champion:143}} (if your goal is diamond) * **(? lcs) Vanguards:** {{champion:12}} * **(? off-meta) Burst Mages:** {{champion:99}} * {{champion:63}} (if your goal is diamond) * **(? off-meta) Artillery Mages:** {{champion:161}} Personally I have a feeling that a good {{champion:432}} is sleeper OP. I didn't mention {{champion:26}} since he's more of a counterpick but he's close to be both right now. I think {{champion:497}} is stable for now. While {{champion:412}} is so overloaded even when underpowered he's able to compete as onetrick in challenger.
sorry mate haven't been on boards for a week and missed this but i have a lot to say * you said dont main {{champion:350}} and {{champion:201}} , funny thing is that those 2 is actually the 2 champions i have began to play a lot so im gonna rethink who to main now * i used to be a kick ass {{champion:53}} on my old account so maybe i can play him again but the pressure of landing hooks gets to me which is why i don't play him * {{champion:412}} tried him, i know his a good support and one of the bests to main but again hooks get the better of me and i played a game as him and i felt like killing myself with how bad i was with hooks, i know its because i'm a beginner with him and haven't played many "hookers" recently which is why i was bad at him so maaayyybbee might look at him again * {{champion:432}} funny thing about my man bardo is that he is the champion that made me switch back to support and i was otp him when i switched, he has such a unique kit that others dont have, he is the only champion that can {{item:3157}} anyone in the match and the only champ that can tunnel anyone through walls, his Q is buggy as hell which makes for unbelievable stuns and he is one of the fastest electrocute procers in the game because of his Q and empowered AA but the only reason i stopped playing him is because his Q which is is only poke he has and the only damage ability and the range of it is too god damn short, he is getting out ranged by other poke supports and if you are versing a tank instead of a poke support then getting that close to Q is gonna kill you but i will be more than happy to get back into playing {{champion:432}}, he brought joy to support
: The new free rotation is not appearing
dude this happened to me yesterday, i went into a game wanting to play yuumi but i couldn't see her or any free champions so i thought i was in ranked, but ekko was on my list with the rotation sign on his border and i kept asking myself if i had ekko because i dont remember buying him, i was preparing for a ranked game because i had no free champs in my list and then luckily someone had dodged and when i got back into lobby i saw that i was actually in matchmaking for normals it was fixed next champ select though but i thought i lost my mind for a second edit: and ekko wasnt free or on my list in next champ select
ipv (EUW)
: League of legends running out of players
> PS: lyte killed league of legends whats lyte?
: im otp taric, i have tried many champs since season 1 and i can tell you he is prety good to carry as support. He can play agresive or defensive and he have super good scaling and defense in mid-late game. If you wanna learn i can aanswer your questions (i know the most efficient builds and runes in low and high elo and i even have own build paths). On mid-late game all you need to know of strategy with taric is to group and stomp the team fight since he is in extreme advantage there. One of the most important things about taric is that he is pretty much misundersruood by his teammates and he have a eally weird playstyle , u need practice and patience to cope with early game and team uncolaborative behaviour.
alright ill give him a go, i think he might work out since i remember when he got reworked he was my perma ban because he was frustrating to play against, the only things i need to know now is skill order, build and runes gameplay wise i think i can pick it up as i play so i wont need much help there but if you could tell me any tricks to him that only mains will know then i would much appreciate it
: Riot, the players don't like Qiyana
people would say that that the amount of talking or threatening with reports or some shit like got you punished but i dont think that should be bannable, i recommend sending a ticket and see what riot themselves say about it because you dont really use vulgar language or death threats, its pretty balls that this happends tbh because what you said is kinda toxic but not bannable toxic tbh, saying jgl diff is toxic but it shouldn't be punishable imo and please mate send riot a ticket and try to get it lift because you get 3 strikes 1) chat restriction 2) 14 day ban 3) perma so if you already used up strike one on something so stupid like this then your next strike is gonna get you 2 weeks so try and get this lifted if you can so incase you do lose your shit in a game and swear someone you will get your rightful first strike instead of a 2 week ban
Rioter Comments
: Did you just do that?... I know I made a mistake , and I was sorry , and you do these kind of things. The sad thing is that this is true. I told him "Bye Bye" but I got banned =]] . And guess what , he fed all game (Inting not just playing bad) and he did not get anything . I played with a friend , and it wouldve shown him if he got something , but it did NOT show him anything... If riot has 0 tolerance to death threats than they should look after those kinds of people more. I see in almost every game "Report [x]" or "Uninstall / Go afk / go KY*" because this is the league of legends comunity , and Riot can't change it anymore and they should not ban people because they told someone to kill themselves because , EVERYONE gets triggered sometimes , you can't deny that.
mate this is my second account, i had a level 200 8 year old account with a bunch of expensive skins and it got taken away because of death threats, i know how it feels but you will move on, trust me
addysyed (EUNE)
: how to switch email
on the league website you should be logged in, hover over your name in the right top corner click settings verify your account by signing in again and an eemail verification will be sent, this is because in this setting menu you can change your password which is why there is 2 verifications before you get into this screen then once you do that you will see a screen with your password and gmail starred * out with a pencil sign at the side of the stars, that how you edit your info
: Permantly Banned 0.006% for saying %%%% this game for like 15 games
dude heads up that 0.006% number is bullshit btw dont belive it its riots way of making people feel bad for getting banned, that nuber is the same for everyone so why has the numbered stayed the same for everyone instead of increasing, and this is LoL its suppose to be like 20% so dont get too worked up about that 0.006
WyikNd (EUW)
: ♠♣♦♥ HIDE AND SEEK ♥♦♣♠
{{champion:29}} {{champion:432}} {{:240}} {{champion:141}} {{champion:555}} {{champion:141}} would be broken
: Is Galio still a Champion?
i think his a statue
: supports ???
champs can be played anywhere if you know what you are doing and they have the kit to make it work
: Let's be honest here... Morgana is a midlaner who was then played mid, top, jungle and support and after some time Morgana went support mostly, but never left midlane completely. Vayne as an ADC is played mid. Tristana is played Jungle Galio (a middlaner) is a really strong support, Annie is also just played as support, even though she is a midlaner. Khazix was a midlaner who is now played as a jungler. Aatrox and Urgot are played on multiple roles... It's not just "supports everywhere". League is way more free than in earlier seasons, there are some champions of nearly every role you can play on and some champions just switch roles (like Tahm)
>Khazix was a midlaner who is now played as a jungler wait, wait wtf since when was this guy a midlaner, he has a jungle kit and i have only seen him in the jungle since release
: Draven and MF needs scaling.. a Lucian can easily kill them in a 1vs1 early. As for Caitlyn, it depends on matchup. If she's against a Kalista she should run for the hills cause she cannot beat that for shit.
mf needs scaling? she does too much damage laning also sivir and varus are really good early adc's
: Game benefits roaming too much...
>It used to be that you could play safe and still win i actually like this point you mention because it is true but its good as well because it shows how the game has evolved and for the better in my opinion, so the reason that you could farm safe and still win is because in the early days of league of legends it was "win lane win game" people would only be in their lanes 24/7, not much map awareness, and junglers were not the same picks that you see today, nowadays you see kayns, rek sai's. kindreds, lee sins, a lot of gank heavy junglers, thats because in today's meta junglers need to gank and snowball the game, keep momentum but in the early days of LoL we see fiddle sticks, nunu's amumu's we saw a lot of supportive type of jungles because it was win lane win game, these junglers will support carries till the end, now we see junglers being the carries in today's meta and imo its for the better since its not relying too much on other people and means that you can be more impactful > your lane opponent just roams playing safe is a tactic you use when you in a bad matchup but the way to counter this is to roam or freeze and if they roam then its your responsibility that your laner doesnt get much out from roaming if they 3 man top why didnt you follow, and if you cannot follow then why isnt that minion wave under the tower and you getting free plates LoL is a very diverse game with many playstyles and counters to play styles, you need to be more impactful than %%%%%ing about roaming laners, you need to pressure your lane when they leave, you need to make it so that roaming is bad, ping team mates to back so your laner gets nothing out of it, ward river so you can see roams, push waves when they leave so they miss xp, and gold as well as getting tower plates, they can roam all they like but if you know how to play against the romans you won't have any problems
: Permabanned
something i noticed is i kinda find you funny, the toaster thing and Lil cry made me laugh, especially the Lil cry but that toaster thing is seen as a death threat and riot has a 0 tolerance to death threats, you can have a clean log but with one 1 line of a death threat and you ban wont get lifted also one more thing > Say "Bye Bye" Varus Say "Bye Bye" PKL881
: Hey hey hey..! Wait for a minute..! This ban is definitely unfair. The subject is, "bath with your toaster", right ? People take it as a metaphor for "kill yourself". However, it has nothing to do with it in this form. Why..? Let us take it logical. Who would die bathing with a toaster or even a hair dryer ? Perhaps people are ridiculously allergic to metal. The victim did not say or even mentioned that, the toaster shall be plugged in, WHICH would cause death. In this case, this statement is harmless, like he would have said, "bath with your rubber duck". Both are harmless. I would put my vote on "Let the victim be freed under the ban's weight". Riot, you made a mistake this time! {{sticker:sg-ahri-1}}
im sure everyone will disagree with you, he know what he meant when he said it, the person he said it to knew what he meant when he said it, everyone on his team knows what he meant when he said it, everyone on the boards knows what he meant when he said it, you are trying to save a guilty man edit: riot support will also know what he meant when they read it and they wont lift the ban no matter what you tell them because they have a 0 tolerance to death threats
: The best thing to do is quit the game I did the same now I live more happily. ;)
then why the fk are you on the boards? lmao
Silmä (EUW)
: Why does the client suck so much?
everyone struggles with this new piece of shit of a client, low spec pc's got it bad but i have seen beefy rigs also having problems at times _ "RIOT GAMES, WHERE THEIR CLIENT IS MORE DEMANDING ON YOUR PC THAN PLAYING THE GAME"_ {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}}
: Ironic flaming?
well you are coming off as kinda a di*k by saying ty for a misplay and it can be seen as some form of flame
: Zac R re-remwork ?
> I miss the old one already, pls go back xD technically this is the old one unless you are new to LoL and thought his reworked R was his original
: Mutes in post lobby
> WhY DoN'T yoU JuST lEaVE - isn't a solution. You still see that chat before you leave. amen brother (or sister), a game where i do really bad that someone starts flaming me so i mute them and carry on but when the game ends and my rig is pretty shit so i get into post lobby after everyone else and i can see that person shit talking me still, pisses me off
: every time i outdps my team and make good calls i get zero honors
reading all your comments i can see why no one honors you and if you are so salty about no honors yet you do good then dont play support because you wont be getting any recognition for a good lane
claptrap - blitzcrank (blitz trap) zer0 - yi handsome jack - draven (handsome draven) butt stallion - hecarim maya - syndra because of the phase shift looks like her orbs constructor velkoz (the massive eye)
_"But you tell me OVER and OVER and OVER again my friend, Ah, you don't believe we're on the eve of destruction."_
: Why would anyone cheat?
have you ever used scripts??? me neither but i reckon its fun
: Get the challenger jacket & other stuff
i think they stopped with the challenger jacket
: "Rules are made to be broken" -{{champion:222}}
: As a fellow top laner the bottom line is that your job is to win the lane alone, this is the default expectation but failing that, your secondary job is to play safe and not feed. If a jungler comes up and throws you a gank, great, but in the list of priorities for him, you should be at the bottom. Top Laners should not expect ganks, they are expected to win one on one, and if they can't they are expected not to feed. That's your primary responsibility to the team, everything else you do is bonus. So I really understand the sentiment, there really is no excuse for feeding Nasu 5 kills in the early game, that qualifies as a total collapse, you can't blame that on your team. Your lane is not priority for anyone and for good reason, you basically have one job.. keep the top laner busy, don't die. If you win the lane great, if you lose it, no big deal. But if you lose it and feed, your likely to be responsible for the loss. Im not saying that people shouldn't try to help you etc... I mean obviously its a team game, everyone should be doing what they can but of all the things that should never happen and there is no excuse for its a fed top laner. That is the core skill of the top lane, don't die. You should never die to jungle ganks or to the top laner early game, these are 100% preventable things, if its happening you are failing at a core level of the position. Learn to ward deeper and more often, learn top lane 1 v 1 tricks for champions, know when its time to run and most importantly, don't die for your tower. Top lane tower is the least important in the game.
considering he did say he got dived by amumu, sylas and obviously nasus is gonna join in so you cant blame the guy for feeding in a 3v1 with amumu and ulted nasus to tank and sylas would have either a viktor ult to dps or a cho ult to execute, its kinda sad that the blame all falls onto him > Top Laners should not expect ganks, they are expected to win one on one then tell that to the same top laners who say "better jungler wins" even though both jungler never even come to top and they lost 1v1 all the time, and "better jungler wins" comes from top laners the most in my experience
Salron88 (EUW)
: 99lp is frustrating. can we change just that?
how about if you make it to 98-99 and you win the next game and finnaly qualify for promos then you get a free win because that game was kinda your promo match and if you are 97 and below you still have to play a full game because that 3 lp difference is worth a queue dodge so free win should be granted
: [GameMode IDEA] LateGame Mode
maybe not that approach because think of all the late game champions pooping off in minute one, in every game you would have a full build level 18 jinx, yi, kassadin, zed, vayne, ect running around maybe if we changed the formula to let's say... normal league of legends with that is faster, not as fast as urf though, so maybe we have more base ms, aa speed, dmg, heal, resistance, cooldowns and gold per second but not as broken as urf but a game thats basically normal rift but 3 times faster paced, thats just my thought
: Remove 4 man premade?
i dont really have a problem with 4 man premades because you only see them in normals or flex and if you do not have a paertner to play with then there should be no reason for you to be in flex in the first place, because it was made for premades, so that just leaves it to normals where you would see them and in normals people play to have fun or to learn champions so why even give a shit if if they are trolling or not helping, wanna play serious go ranked but the only problem i do have is solo/duo, it should just be solo so you are ranked accordingly and not because you sat on someones di*k while they rode you to (insert rank) solo rank needs to be what you earned, i feel like solo/duo should be removed and if you wanna play duo go to flex and get matched up as 2 duos with 3 trio in a team its also a disadvantage to have a duo botlane vs solo botlane in a soloQ ranked game, it takes out the whole competitive part with the duos have voice comp advantage
Silent Note (EUNE)
: Remove 1 man solo? Just a thought, worst teammate I possibly can get is a person who keeps on flaming the teammates, ints and tells us we don't deserve a win so he'll make sure we lose. People don't intentionally feed when they are in premades, like 90% of intentional feeders are solo players, so we should probably disable solo queue and only allow 2, 3 and 5 man premades.
> so we should probably disable solo queue and only allow 2, 3 and 5 man premades. thats a great idea, that way riot can lose 3/4 of its player base, aint you smart {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}}
: Killing Myself?
just say it in another language, thats how i flame im from south africa and i swear people in afrikaans and sometimes zulu and they dont know what im saying and the chat feedback things also doesnt pick it up, i normally use afrikaans to swear people because thats my first additional language but if im gonna say something really offensive i switch to zulu (second additional language) because im afraid that the afrikaans will get picked up as dutch, swearing with my mother tongue which is english got my old acc banned
: "Better jungler wins." - is Bullshit. #The jungler is there, to exploit mistakes. If the enemy has the better jungler, it means he was given more chances, than yours. There obviously are junglers who have no idea what they are doing, but that's true for every single lane. Mid isn't gankable from 6 routes. Depending on your map side, you ward the midwall bush (behind the blue) with a pink, and place a ward in the same side's mid bush, and play only on that side of the map. If the jungler comes from there, you move to tower since you already saw him. If he comes from the other side, you escape through your warded bush into the jungle. On top you pink the river bush or tribush, depending on your side, and yellow the other. Even better, you put a deep ward into the river's scuttler area, or to the enemy's buff. **** Even if you're 10/0. you only go for all-ins, when the enemy jungler shows himself, on another lane. This way, you will never be killed by the enemy jungler. Also, It's not the jungler's job to : * Trade flashes with your laner * Ward your lane * Win your lane * give you buffs * Solo take objectives * Solo kill the enemy jungler > It is damn annoying when i'm under turret for 15 min., and not a single gank. Well maybe you have a kha'zix, that can spam bot lane-ganks, and win the game through there, instead of giving double kills on cooldown to that 2/0 post lvl6 illaoi, or darius. I especially love toplaners, who die 2 times early, then expect me, as a jungler, to re-balance their lanes. Not how it works. I play to win, if you lost early (especially in a favourable for you matchup), it means that I shouldn't invest many resources into you. I've seen ignite renektons solo-die from teleport rivens, pre lvl6 - how is that even possible ? You legit don't even wanna get close to that lane, since there's something VERY wrong with it. Ganking an 0/2 toplaner, might result in him not even following up since he's tilted or just plain bad. So yea, the struggle is real. **** Also, if you're not the squishiest champ, you can hide behind a tower, in most cases, unless you mess something up big-time and you let the enemy dive you. There's no hiding in the jungle. A 2-0 enemy top, when teamed up with his own jungler, while having deep-wards on your buffs, will keep cheesing your jungler on cooldown, while your toplaner is sitting under tower, failing at last-hitting farm. **** I had a main role on every single lane in the game, currently a jungler, since mid - seaons 4. I have good, and I have worse games, like everyone else. I DO WANNA WIN EVERY GAME, hence I'm trying my best. People spam pinging me for not ganking after they fed their ass off, does not help. Cut us some slack.
i used to be a jungle main, my summoner name should tell who i mained (kindred) but i have few games on her on this acc, i had 2k on my old acc but thats gone for good now and thats because when my laners lashed out on me i used to fight back and look where it got me, so when i got to gold on this account, the abuse started again i just gave up on jungle and transitioned into support. and still i see people blaming junglers for their own mistakes. i dont know why riot doesn't do anything about the abuse a jungler in lower elo gets, this is what happens in my games when i was a jungle and this is why i had to transition: * laner is too agro and gets ganked easily (gives enemy jungler gold and xp) * dies again from being incompetent (gives more gold and xp) * enemy jungler is now very strong * enemy jungler walks into my jungle and takes all my stuff and i cant do anything about it and no one helps * enemy jungler uses this opportunity to snowball other lanes * i am to weak because my camps all got counter jungled and i had to watch, enemy laners are too strong because their jungler used his lead well * my laners get tilted and take my camps so now im getting counter jungled by all my own team and enemy team * im falling more behind * gg better jungler wins * all because one laner gave them the opportunity but i get blamed sometimes i wanna go back to my roots and i do, play a few successful jungle games then i get a game where i get stomped and shit talked from my team so i just go back to support where i do nothing but sit in a bush and shield (i know thats not what supports do, i also dont really sit and shield, i play it properly, im just saying compared to jungle, support feels a tad bit boring for my playstyle but i had tp move because i would get abused by 4 people but now its just abuse from adc, lol)
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