Rismosch (EUW)
: You are all talking about this as if this would be a common occurance. Of course securing the kill if necessary is a good thing. But if you you "secure" it pretty often, like every game, then you are playing wrong. You as a Support is supposed to set up kills, not take them. If your ADC doesn't even get an assist, then your communication is lacking, you don't make proper trades and you try to solo carry instead of synergizing with your ADC. A mage support in a nutshell.
> [{quoted}](name=Rismosch,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=cLcdrJnE,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2018-04-25T10:27:28.139+0000) > > You are all talking about this as if this would be a common occurance. Of course securing the kill if necessary is a good thing. But if you you "secure" it pretty often, like every game, then you are playing wrong. You as a Support is supposed to set up kills, not take them. > > If your ADC doesn't even get an assist, then your communication is lacking, you don't make proper trades and you try to solo carry instead of synergizing with your ADC. A mage support in a nutshell. Of course should i set them up. But there are situations and reasons enough to take a kill. By the way. 1 AA should not be a huge problem even when communication or whatever is lacking. You as adc still have free farm after i as sup kill 1 or 2 even when you could not follow up. AND they are loosing cs and xp while you dont. You and most Adc out there just think all belongs to you all the time.
Rismosch (EUW)
: The trick is to set up kills, not take them. If you continuesly feel the need to kill enemies, then you are doing it wrong.
> [{quoted}](name=Rismosch,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=cLcdrJnE,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-04-25T09:32:50.208+0000) > > The trick is to set up kills, not take them. If you continuesly feel the need to kill enemies, then you are doing it wrong. Well if he can Solokill them and his ADC doesnt even get an Assist then the ADC is not doing his Job. He didnt even hit them once, was already dead for a while or had to b because he was low because he got poked down (bad Positioning / pointless All-In / inting : your choice)... Its better that the ADC gets the Kill, if not its still 150g. When he doesnt even get the 150g he is useless anyway. If you are 100% sure that xyz wont get away let him take the kill, otherwise you secure it.
: Ranked Solo q, Bronze 1 matched with Gold 4
He was in a Duo with Annie, his MMR was higher and you were the low one to balance his higher mmr out. Overall your Team MMRs were quite even. By the way he was on your Team why do you complain?
CJXander (EUNE)
: Wait what? Wait what?
Either just weird or intentional trolling from the start.
DooTsoNz (EUW)
: Should I be worried about getting banned?
As long as you didnt give away free kills on purpose: No danger at all Actually they are in way more danger then you for flaming.
Rismosch (EUW)
: #IT #IS #EASIER #TO #GET #BE #THAN #IP #BEFORE When will you guys understand this?
> [{quoted}](name=Rismosch,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=rmy1UbBb,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-04-12T18:19:16.081+0000) > > #IT > #IS > #EASIER > #TO > #GET > #BE > #THAN > #IP > #BEFORE > > When will you guys understand this? Easier or not People will always complain. Especially those that want x champs instantly and plan to play every single lane instead of keeping the pool small and choose 2 lanes.
Crownguard (EUNE)
: Creating Normal Games
Same over here We are 4 People in a lobby, but in my Friendlist its 3/5 and 4/5 on 2 different people. They cant see me either but i can see them^^
: FULL SUPPORT TEAM Member search!
: Impossible to rank up / smurfs etc rant..
1. Of course there are some ppl like that, but you would not mind if they are on your team. Besides the Season isnt that old so there are still people in Silver that should be higher. 2. The flames are really annoying and quite often its people that loose their lane. Of course not because they made mistakes. Its either the Sup/ADC or jng. Sometimes that might be true but quite often they just make the same mistake over and over again like: "Hey why should i not push the lane to theirt tower without warding river. The Jungler ganked me 3 times already but wont show up a 4th time for sure." 3. The Tutorial is a joke thats true. Learning new champs takes time and is done in normals. You can learn from your Opponent as well: How does he position himself, when and why goes he Allin, why was he able to get me there and so on. Just focus on a few champs, learn from your own mistakes and stop aiming to win in the first place. Go for improving your farm/Poke/Positioning/Wavecontrol instead. Play DEFENSIV in the first place. In our Elo the other Laner will make his mistakes as well and then punish him, dont try to force stuff. 4. Depends. I get around 23 LP for a win and loose less when a game goes south. Anyway dont just focus on climbing. Focus on getting better and not Win/Loose Ratio. Some games are doomed after Champselect anyway. Use them for Training and except the Setback. No Chance to get better is simply wrong. You get better every game. Sometimes Babysteps, sometimes big leaps. The stuff about being professional/Youtuber or whatever: Well some people did that with the broken System and there is a reason most people (like me as well) will never get there. We are simply not good enough, lack the will to achieve that or have other flaws that will prevent that from happening.
: It's strange that toplane would be called not impactful these days, given that RioT is currently nerfing tanks hard and i would like to know the reason if their trademark lane is not even impactful to begin with...
> [{quoted}](name=Sarchiapon,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=QEgihUsi,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-02-28T12:05:28.653+0000) > > It's strange that toplane would be called not impactful these days, given that RioT is currently nerfing tanks hard and i would like to know the reason if their trademark lane is not even impactful to begin with... I Think its part of the plan to make bruisers work or more viable again.
WolfChases (EUNE)
: Good question tho. For me, support is boring as a role. All you have to do is to care about how po poke that enemy adc or support, hit that skillshot and place a ward when its off cooldown. Support role is all about decision making while other roles have much more thing to do. Top laner has to control minions, care about teleport, learn and constantly improve their CS. Mid laner has to care about trades, cs, roams, follow up. Jungler has to care about timings, decision making, gank or felarm? Drake? Herald? Countergank, counterjungle. Adcs have to farm, farm, farm, learn to fillow their support, learn to position, kite, orbwalk properly. I dont ubderestimate supports but I always get borred when I play it. While my ADC farms and tries to last hit minions under pressure I have to spam that Q or E as Janna... Kinda lame.
> [{quoted}](name=WolfChases,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=NKUGmMIg,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2018-02-27T16:53:20.295+0000) > > Good question tho. For me, support is boring as a role. All you have to do is to care about how po poke that enemy adc or support, hit that skillshot and place a ward when its off cooldown. Support role is all about decision making while other roles have much more thing to do. > > Top laner has to control minions, care about teleport, learn and constantly improve their CS. > > Mid laner has to care about trades, cs, roams, follow up. > > Jungler has to care about timings, decision making, gank or felarm? Drake? Herald? Countergank, counterjungle. > > Adcs have to farm, farm, farm, learn to fillow their support, learn to position, kite, orbwalk properly. > > I dont ubderestimate supports but I always get borred when I play it. While my ADC farms and tries to last hit minions under pressure I have to spam that Q or E as Janna... Kinda lame. Depending what Sup you play you have more or less to do, but would not say lesser then other roles. Roaming is part of your job as well. Enemy is b, Mid under Tower? Well Lulu can get you a kill or at least lessen the pressure. Poke includes Positioning. Poke includes Trading at least from time to time. Basically besides CS you are in some way included in every other lanes job. Countergank/jng without vision / a sup that leaves his lane to give you a hand is harder as an example and so on. Dont get me wrong though. If you get bored by it thats fine. I hate Top with passion. ;-)
: Is it really that sad to play support?
Well i started near the End of Season 7 to play LoL so still quite new and ended in Silver, currently just Silver as well. So yes i make mistakes, still have ways to go and feed because of that from time to time. That said: I want to Main the Support Role, but it is sad to be the Support and right now i decided to smurf a bit to get used to other roles as well. Why? Well lets just say Im a bit tired of being the one that shields, heals and Ults the way to victory while being blamed for everything that goes wrong. Midlaner dies because your ADC gets the Shield - Midlaner flames Toplaner dies while you are Bot playing Janna because you didnt heal him with your Soraka R (yep i had that) - Toplaner flames ADC ignores the Jungler despite ward in river and in Front of dragon + Pings - your Fault of course You shield ADC, use Lulu Ult, peel Zed with W - well done ADC you got 3 kills / Lulu you are still garbage because said adc died 4 times overextending + easy ganks You ward. look for wards and destroy one instead of xyz - Supports dont need Gold how could you? You kill a minion after laningphase - You are Support remember? You dont need gold remember? Your ADC goes All In half Life against 2 Fulllife, Nami has no Mana for more then one cast - well we all know who is to blame You play Lulu and go for Coin instead of that dagger because you expect a laningphase where you cant really poke? - LoL look at that Lulu, i will feed. You take a Kill while your ADC is running away? - Stop KS (I will always take a Kill when i can, too often they got away when i waited for my adc to finally lasthit - KS = Kill Secured NOT Kill Steal) ... Just some stuff from Season 7/8 - maybe 20-50 Ranked (not sure how many i really played alltogether) not even the normal games I dont know why it annoys me more to get flamed when playing Sup then Mid as an example but its like that. Besides i can just play it safe there, avoid deaths and normaly i have an easy Life without flames. Yeah i know /mute all could help, but thats what makes it SAD to be the Sup. You are not appreciated, flame target Nr 1 and nobody gives a damn if you carry from that role (rarely i was able to do that - newbie as said). Maybe that will change when i have a partner to Duo, but hey i got nearly all the Casters and not the Tanks so that wont happen soon either. Yep even in Silver the people expect you to have mastered every possible Champ that can Sup and own them... So the next time you end up with a rnd Sup that got autofilled: Ask yourself how you treated the possible Mains for that Role and maybe realize that you made them switch because of your Behaviour / Expectations...
: cant use the forum
Well Im LvL 41 and still LvL 1 but for whatever reason i can finally post in a Thread for whatever reason. Lets hope it works for other Threads as well. Edit: Yep it did, just dont get why i could post here and nowhere else. But hey thumbs up it worked.

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