: Pls, why would you force teamfights with Pantheon? Play the pick game: Push your lane, roam with your ult, create towerdives, get your other lanes ahead, if the game is about to stall at their inhib towers, get neutral objectives (Baron, Drake), push several lanes so you dont have to teamfight. Seriously, ppl have to get this "we must all group mid" out of their head. And yes, Garen and Darius ulti can be Riposted, but the laning phase is not about that. With their regular kit they can zone Fiora away from CS, and that is literally everything they need to do. And optimally, you want to ult Fiora after you baited out her riposte or always threaten to ult her to make her never use her Riposte to prevent other abilities. Same with Yorick. Once he gets his tear rolling, its gonna get ugly.
I wish everyone could think like you. But everytime I play a game in diamond tier, I get a top lane always crying because we didn't ban fiora or jungle doens't help him. And from that the flame and blame starts to grow up in the game and stop being funny to play.
: As I said, > You can shut down Fiora in lane now and delay her power until you managed to get such a high gold lead that her innate strength doesnt matter anymore. if Fiora uses Riposte too much in lane, she'll be oom in no time and pretty useless. Also it has 19sec base cooldown, and pretty much any ability that can be dangerous to her has a lower CD (in lane). In fights, dont stack all CC on her at the same time. Yorick, Pantheon, Garen or Darius all work very good against her in lane. With a lane lead, you have to then produce objectives pressure and get the rest of your team ahead.
Well a good fiora can counter both garen ulti or darius ulti, making their job harder imo. Yorick higher cost of mana to punish her. Maybe pantheon could be a good option... but still could a pantheon perform better than a fiora in teamfights ? with pantheon if u go in the fight you probably don't dont come out, with fiora you can go in and out with no problem
ExileSorrow (EUNE)
: about the stickers or the fiora also {{sticker:slayer-jinx-catface}}
both {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
ExileSorrow (EUNE)
: thsi fiora with nerfs to W and increased mana costs will be good {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}} damn i love this stickers {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-rainbows}}
totally agree with you {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-rainbows}}
Coaja94 (EUNE)
: Old fiora was way worse in terms of unbeatable...current one involves skill and positioning and is not invulnerable for the duration of her ult , at least.
yes the new one involves more skill and positioning but still her base stats and that Q,W and low mana cost makes her a unbeatable too.
Allisrem2 (EUW)
: {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-popcorn}}
: I'm not talking about just 1v1 with him but champion strenght in general. Darius is freelo right now, as well as Fiora.
Darius you still can counter him with some good kite, but against fiora just forget run for your life or call your team to 1vs5 on fiora while her team does baron kappa
LZ Flame (EUW)
: yeah old fiora had so much much counterplay when she pressed ult,not
yes but the old fiora you can counter her ulti with good cc. But now the only main champions with cc are tanks and some with skill shots and fiora can just dodge with Q , cc you wiht W , and outdamage you
: Old Fiora was even more "Feast or Famine" so no. You can shut down Fiora in lane now and delay her power until you managed to get such a high gold lead that her innate strength doesnt matter anymore.
Yes but with the new W on fiora she can stop the cc that was her main counter for her. Now she can Dodge skillshots and escape from missplays with Q and she can't stun you with her W if you have cc. I think the W it's the main problem, it's to much ... {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}}
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