: be fair tho there is stronger adc than vanye out there
no, the only thing even comparable is tristana and draven. draven isn't near as mobile, nor is tristana. you can build items vs them as they don't burn through it with true damage
Vsec Exile (EUNE)
: Pff...dont let her snowball then? She is just a counter to susan. Earlygame both weak as hell. Lategame both stupidly strong. Atleast she can be shut down, not like zoe who 2 item oneshots with q
should I pick shalissa then?
Sympton (EUW)
: 2 more than ziggs, close to bard.. 3 different roles.. and if you look at preseason now that vayne is SUPPOSEDLY so OP shes on my fricken 7th spot.. stop being biased.
it's not biased it's fact, your most played was vayne.
Sympton (EUW)
: http ://euw .op.gg/summoner/ userName=sympton
yes season 7 most played vayne
: Can u remember when she had a bad laning phase and i mean bad not subpar? Good times.
she never even had that hard of a time in lane, it was just an excuse from vayne mains to make themselves feel better, she's always been an easy pick up and win type champ
fifek900 (EUNE)
: Hello, I was welcomed by yet another Blue Esence rant. It's good to be back home {{sticker:katarina-love}}
Sympton (EUW)
: im actually not, i play loads of champs.. honestly TONS. top, support, adc.. check my opgg.
Sympton (EUW)
: very high skillcap, no waveclear, cant push, no AoE or AoE ult, weak lanephase, dependable. no sir, she is fine, risky, and rewarding if played well.
- is a vayne main I wonder if there's going to be a bit of bias in this sentence
: well i guess in ops league game cc dont exists while yes vayne is one of the better adc IN THE RIGHT HANDS there is no reason to qq about her
that's not an excuse, nothing is going to be broken if they can't play their champ, that's not the point though
Sympton (EUW)
: neither can vayne unless you literally have 5 id!ots in silver 5 elo.
oh you're a vayne main :)
Get Juk3d (EUNE)
: dude if you don't like {{champion:67}} how do you feel like {{champion:35}} when he suddenly appears behind you and your screen turns black and white. :D at least {{champion:67}} needs 3 hits or some thing. all I have to do as a {{champion:35}} main is Q + walk behind you + auto + {{summoner:11}} +{{summoner:14}} and if you're still alive and walking away I give you an E to go
Rioter Comments
: give excuses why you would ever play him over thresh because they both have a hook its true thresh hook is less likely to get caught on something you dont want thresh is much better at auctually saving a carry than he is too also naut originally was a jungler then he got in on top lane then people started picking support then nothing
thresh's lanturn, the box slows twice if you're being chased. the knock back is good offensively and defensively
: I think you forgot the fact that if you happen to fall below 30% HP when you fight him youre basically dead. And taking down a champion as tanky as urgot without losing that much life is basically impossible unless youre SO FAR ahead, which doesnt happen in normal conditions. Also dont tell me to dodge his ulti since that would be a counter for every champion with skillshots like Zoe (which btw even pro players confirmed she is busted as heck).
25% but darius has an execute too, in the form of his resetting ult. you've essentially got to beat him before a certain threshhold. that's his only real way of reliably getting kills, he can't come to you, you have to go to him to trade. and on top of that if you can kill him while he's ulting you, you can survive. it's a lot more balanced than darius' jump in the air and do 500+ true damage and on reset he can do it again. beside it's a skillshot meaning he's not always going to land again as opposed to darius' point and click ult. and yes skillshots make a huge difference as thy can be dodged sure he's not going to miss them all, but there is a possibility he can his it
: Having to constantly dodge Urgots Q's is a huge burden since not even proffesional players dodge every single skillshot, and also lets not forget about his knee mechanic shit, if you get close to the wave, he just needs to auto it for some interesting harrass in a cone. And also dodging his Q doesnt make it easier to fight him, if you start a trade with him, he will just shield himself and its very hard to fail that dash when his enemy is in his face. Also he is way too tanky just building health, I dont see champs like Darius or Riven even half as tanky as Urgot even though all of them build BC first item.
8 seconds, if he burns his q go in and it's not the biggest skillshot, taliyah's shove is bigger than that leg shotgun? here's a tip, if he autos he's going to waste it, so let him burn through a few farming. his shield is tiny and it slows him making it easier for you to use your wall jump. if you're not hit by any abilities it will hit your minions and you, so you can mitigate some damage by standing near your minions. 'hard to fail a dash' except this dash is tiny and has a huge delay, stops him from aa'ing or do anything, watch for the tells. riven isn't a juggernaut, darius is and is as tanky + does more reliable damage. I personally think urgot is absolute shit tbh, too reliant on abilities I think you're just salty you got beat by an urgot. try him, he's not as easy as you make out, camille is immobile if you exclude her wall jump, it's easy to land skillshots.
: Riot really needs to put an end to stupid damage coming from all champs
sion adn ornn are the monsters atm, ornn is notorius for his flame breath being way too overtuned urgot isn't a tank so it would make sense try urgot, you'll find his w is extremely unreliable, his e is abysmal and just like prerework he's reliant on that q to do consistant damage. I think you just need to learn the match up, bait the q and go in, you'll find he's really easy and can only try to land the worst dash in the game in order to start his damage
: He didn't recieve enouge base stats to compensate for the rune changes. To give a good example: * **Base Armor:** 35.5 – 99.2 * 99.2 is the armor value that most juggernauts & divers get!! * To give an example of Maokai base Armor Stats: 39 – 107 * His early base armor is so low. Even {{champion:36}} has a higher early base armor as him and that's a juggernaut... * Giving an example with a Vanguard like Leona that has 47 – 108.2 base armor... He doesn't need a large buff. But come on. Just give him 5 more base armor or something... #'#40.5 – 104.2 please Alternative an attackspeed base stats buff could be intressting to make his jungle position back viable again.
I'd like his auto attack to be set right, his autoattack animation is way too longto match up to his actual damage and passive like you can auto someone and cancel the animation as soon as his anchor comes down and everything will still apply
: No, its the Overnerfed-not-adjusted-to-preseason-and-Outclassed-in-all-positions-syndrome.
: Originally, his main positions were top and jungle. As Support, he suffers against all the poke and is overshadowed by Leona, Alistar, Blitzcrank and Thresh, and countered by Tahm Kench.
so kayle syndrome, he doesn;t have a main role yet?
: Not really. He has a rather straightforward, stat-checking kit. Right now he also is highly overshadowed by Maokai and Ornn.
he's a support though
: Thats what constant nerfs do to a champion.
he's like thresh though, it's his skills effects that what matter
Rioter Comments
WõOxer (EUW)
: Yes but what I suppose to do, once I am dead he is making skirmish fight instantly 2v1, and free lane, free farm for adc FREE everything, also it sets me behind.
Snow Enix (EUW)
: You are the one embarassing yourself, crying like a baby that the game isn't fair on boards xD
ok, goodluck building warmog's vs vayne ;)
: > [{quoted}](name=Laykrmek Poppy,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=MkbPWMTi,comment-id=00050001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-12-05T22:23:00.977+0000) > > ok?~ > you have fun writing more sarcastic, passive aggressive posts, might want to do a bit of research though, stops you looking like an ass~ > {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}} Reading yours is more than enough to know how to behave like a caveman. There could not be better research on the topic, i'll give you that.
and still you tell me that armour stops percent hp true damage. I beg to differ
Snow Enix (EUW)
: Lmao whatever man
might want to do a little research next time, I hope you feel embarrassed
Renold (EUNE)
: lol wtf...how does hp stop truth dmg???????????????????????????HOLY..
because people would rather type a witty comment something that their classmates would think is cool, but fail to do any research which results in them looking like a %%%%%%, which they likely were to begin with
: > [{quoted}](name=Laykrmek Poppy,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=MkbPWMTi,comment-id=000500010000000000000000,timestamp=2017-12-05T22:13:18.559+0000) > > yes because your first post wasn't a sarcastic, passive aggressive.... > now that you've realized that you look like a complete ass, you're on the defensive 'ooh you're being mean for no reason, why is everybody so mean' take it on the chin kid you brought it on yourself Anyone can easily make up his mind about who is insulting someone here, and then give the proper weight to whatever that one is writing. More specifically, what you write talks by itself. No need for me to explain anything further.
ok?~ you have fun writing more sarcastic, passive aggressive posts, might want to do a bit of research though, stops you looking like an ass~ {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
: > [{quoted}](name=Laykrmek Poppy,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=MkbPWMTi,comment-id=0005000100000000,timestamp=2017-12-05T22:09:39.840+0000) > > because you're purposely missing the point > > 'Actually there is a whole stat made to counter ADC's damage, including Vayne's. It's called "Armor"' > > hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, msybe this armour is completely worthless to this champ??? > hence why I'm making this post, if you want to be an asshole, expect people to be an asshole back, I'm not goingto baby you cause you feelings got hurt You are the one insulting people, not me.
yes because your first post wasn't sarcastic, passive aggressive.... now that you've realized that you look like a complete ass, you're on the defensive 'ooh you're being mean for no reason, why is everybody so mean' take it on the chin kid you brought it on yourself
Cheini (EUNE)
: actually there is such an item! it is called "Ruby Crystal" and costs 400g, check it out ;)
WHOAW realy? now I take even more damage, thanks kid!
Snow Enix (EUW)
: Called warmog my friend
it's called taking more damage by building that my friend. go back to silver
Renold (EUNE)
: Truth is that vayne doesnt even need armor penetration{{item:3036}} {{item:3033}} ...And with press the atack her truth dmg is insane. But we they buffed her xDDDDD.Smart riot.
it's riot... they're not so good at the balancing part
Vsec Exile (EUNE)
: She is still squishy as hell and it's assasins job to kill the enemies threat. Champ aint broken. People are stupid and unwilling to learn
yes because vayne is a very immobile and non slippery champ
: > [{quoted}](name=Laykrmek Poppy,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=MkbPWMTi,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-12-05T03:07:15.040+0000) > > doesn't hp scaling true damage defeat the purpose of a tank? No, Adc's are supposed to be tank killers, removing true damage would make tanks just unkillable and the game will be unenjoyable, everything has a counter dude
whatever dude, there's plenty of other items to shred, everyone else can manage. vayne doesn't need true damage hp scalin, it's broken as %%%%
: Doesn't that completely defeat the purpose of true damage though? {{summoner:3}}
doesn't hp scaling true damage defeat the purpose of a tank?
Rioter Comments
S1 Psclly (EUW)
: Fervor Toplaners feel Guttered
they're not gutted, just these range champs are dominating top right now, just a shift in the meta. the onlyother things in the toplane are the super tanks (ornn and maokai)
Desirable (EUNE)
: What should I had done in this game?
maybe have got a bit tankier, that's the problem with a fed assassin, they either end the game early by being fed or they get caught and throw the game. there's not much inbetween, but I as a tank main like a fed bruisery/assassin even if it trades of a bit of daamge as then you're not going to pop if yo get 2v1'ed unexpectedly and people seem to shy away from focusing the higher healthpool players in a teamfight
kapokjv (EUW)
: Broken Aatrox
how did he have more cc when 3 of your abilities are cc?
: Concerning the new Varus lore ;)
: Git gud?
you must be the cool kid in school
Rismosch (EUW)
: Ban Vayne from the entire game please {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}}
Rioter Comments
Yiayechu (EUW)
: Lissandra
no, just the top lane meta doesn't suit her atm, top is dominated by jayce,teemo,quinn,etc atm it's miserable for tanks too, she will come back into light soon
: I have a request.
flame more and riot will have to keep muting you ;)
: > [{quoted}](name=Laykrmek Poppy,realm=EUW,application-id=Mpd1UjGe,discussion-id=FQclOAFA,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2017-11-30T03:19:32.776+0000) > > what?~ > ~ > he's got no ult, he's just a q spamming machine and if he gets caught he's only got his tank stats to save him, the ult is gimped by everything and that steroid isn't much when you build full tank, shen is a better version of him, he gets the percent hp from his q and a slow. > e is a hard cc and hits multile people and his w is an aoe protection from basic attacks, then his ult can help anyone on the map making 1v1 a 2v1. > ~ > he needs something new in his kit Mundo Ultimate is really bad, you lose 20% current hp for that shit, which gets nulified by something extremely cheap such as Executioners, or even bramble vest
exactly, a rework to his ult to counter thatwould be a good start, but it doesn't feel as if he adds much to a team
: What have u been smoking ? I believe graves doesn't smoke weed.
: Try it. Dive with graves into the enemy team and see if you can land a single shot thanks to your "tanky stats" before being nuked.
didn't say he was a 1v5, what i mean is you're unable to solo him, he doesn't drop easily. deals a shit ton of damage,
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