Grimmrok (EUNE)
: Wait, what did I miss? How do you know that they are banned?
> [{quoted}](name=Grimmrok,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=unGEZK0h,comment-id=000e,timestamp=2018-07-07T23:15:11.786+0000) > > Wait, what did I miss? > How do you know that they are banned? They are banned, for Sona they said she was disabled the last winter ARURF and for Ryze didn't know until yesterday.
Jofo2003 (EUW)
: ya so many champs are broken on urf but there isn't really any way to fix it since if they changed champs around it it would both ruin the purpose of urf and break the actual game.
> [{quoted}](name=Jofo2003,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=unGEZK0h,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2018-07-07T12:45:54.070+0000) > > ya so many champs are broken on urf but there isn't really any way to fix it since if they changed champs around it it would both ruin the purpose of urf and break the actual game. Exactly, that's why i'm wondering why ban Sona from all the crazy champions out there. Maybe if they let us ban some champions at the beginning of the selection and then distribute the rest randomly, it will help the players have a nice game.
: It's because Ryze and Sona have all abilities on a .1 second cd, dealing a crap tone of DPS and would need a HEAVY damage reduction effect to make them balanced. Ryze E spam every .8 second with a Q on a 1 second cd and reset **on all other non ultimate spells** he casts with infinite mana would kill you, from lvl 2 (for a late game monster, remember that) within 2 seconds. Sona won't have cd's at all in urf (kinda like karthus Q, but with 3 abilities instead of 1). Champs like the snake need to land other **skillshots** to deal their damage, ryze won't have CD on his Q and sona doesn't even have to aim, just press buttons and everybody around you dies. Also, where be the fish at in your list!
She's maybe OP in ARURF but like i said not invincible like many others. I remember playing her, a good annie can oneshot her even this crazy LB jumping everywhere! The fish, for exemple, i hate seeing him in the enemy team because i know he'll be a nightmare ! Speaking of Karthus, he could kill you even when he's not on your lane (thanks R) beside him spamming his Q, even the sound of it is super annoying ...
Lozah (EUW)
: Why are Sona and Ryze banned from ARURF ?
Oh did i mention AP WW or Vladimir ? Did you guys lane VS this red thing ? {{sticker:vlad-salute}}
Cryptidian (EUNE)
: You forgot to mention Jax. He can perma counterstrike and negate all auto attacks for the whole game.
Oh yeah.. Jax. I laned against a Jax and a Vi in ARURF (i was Tristana), dead under turret and couldn't do a thing about it. Even if you win your early game, you simply can not kill him later especially when you have no escape.... maybe even when you have an escape he can catch you. {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}}
: Can carry harder than most.
Don't think so, she could carry like many others not harder :( a good focus on her and she's dead.
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