Henkel (EUW)
: State of Balance/League
Completely agree with every word you said. Which is also the reason why I uninstalled the game on wednesday, best decision of my current life. As long time jungler main the current jungle meta and state of the game is just utter cancer which will slowly but surely kill League for many. {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}}
: And also same sequence happened again, Nunu gets fed, I fall behind, they get control of dragon, he solo's herald. Nunu oppresses toplaner with Herald and I cant answer because im 3-4 levels behind this cuck. Mind my language, im really just sick and tired of jungle meta, tanks, mages and adc's in their current state
Thanks for being supportive, really appreciate that. I guess ill take a half a year break again until pushing gold for free skin in the summer and switch back to Apex and Wow (wow had new patch today aswell) Dunno if its worth returning if this meta mess doesnt get fixed soon enough, doesnt seem like it though.
: Current meta is just outright cancer. Just did a game against a nunu who spends his time nothing but camping after camping after camping after camping, doing 0 jungle camps and if he actually did jungle camps he wouldve not been camping every lane so often. This shit doesnt just happend with Nunu, but {{champion:2}} {{champion:64}} {{champion:60}} {{champion:245}} {{champion:19}} {{champion:35}} {{champion:121}} and every other early camp abuser. You fail even one gank against these guys and you are left 3-4 levels behind which is utter bullshit and bad balancing, you cant help your team at all when you fall behind. All start blaming the jungler, while jungler already feeling like shait to begin with.
And also same sequence happened again, Nunu gets fed, I fall behind, they get control of dragon, he solo's herald. Nunu oppresses toplaner with Herald and I cant answer because im 3-4 levels behind this cuck. Mind my language, im really just sick and tired of jungle meta, tanks, mages and adc's in their current state
Câstiél (EUW)
: Maybe you should take a break man. You're playing league for a really long time - longer than any other game I suppose. It's only natural that it will get boring / stale at some point. Other people are enjoying the game: Me for example. I like current balancing, Meta and the only thing I feel which is a bit odd lately is the current exp distribution. I did really good in jungle in the preseason, but I need to play more to really comment on how it really feels. All I'm saying: Maybe take a break. It may improve your perception of the game right now or let you see that you don't 'need' league anymore.
Current meta is just outright cancer. Just did a game against a nunu who spends his time nothing but camping after camping after camping after camping, doing 0 jungle camps and if he actually did jungle camps he wouldve not been camping every lane so often. This shit doesnt just happend with Nunu, but {{champion:2}} {{champion:64}} {{champion:60}} {{champion:245}} {{champion:19}} {{champion:35}} {{champion:121}} and every other early camp abuser. You fail even one gank against these guys and you are left 3-4 levels behind which is utter bullshit and bad balancing, you cant help your team at all when you fall behind. All start blaming the jungler, while jungler already feeling like shait to begin with.
Câstiél (EUW)
: Somthing is going wrong in your games then lol
Yea yeah, I have been jungle main since s4, the jungle in its current state has to be the least favorite so far. Meta is %%%%ed up, mages highly biased in every way. As long time bruiser jungler (Udyr OTP) ive gotten so tired of seing same champs being played over and over and over again, its so stale and disgusting.
: Either.
Ironically I just got into a game where I had Draven as adc, and he went schitzo. He even had pun name Schizoid Draven. And yes he fed and blamed everything on others.
: Draven - something about this champion just tilts me off the face of the earth.
In your own team or enemy? I only tend to see Dravens feeding in my team.
Shaebadu (EUW)
: Your permabans
Pyke, Senna, Nautilus, Olaf, Yi, Fizz, Cait.
ChampZone (EUW)
: League should stop the Assassins meta now and rise up Fighters -_-
Funny how you generalize "assasins" when the tanks, mages, adcs and actual assasins can be counted into this category Tanks do way to much damage. For building only into tank items. Mage and Assasins share same OP AP items. If we nerfed AP items abit the assasin meta would tone down a bunch. And everybody wouldnt blow up so often. Botlane.... The support does by default over 50% of the botlanes damage easily. ADC's only follow up in damage after mid to late game if not at all compared to some "supports" damage.
Câstiél (EUW)
: > Ocean soul on tank matchups, broken Wind soul on assasin team, broken Fire soul on adc/AP heavy team, broken Ocean drakes are only really strong to broken with specific team comps / champs which you can't influence. You can't pick Singed and go for the strategy "I'll go for ocean dragon soul", since you got no influence at all. But I'd say that elemental drakes shouldn't be there like that at all, since it's rng and thus not really healthy for the game. I could imagine 4 "different" maps though, each with exactly one element - which get's preset in champ select (could be rng which map it will be). That way you could prepare yourself and your team a lot better. But still, those dragon souls are only a lategame-tool, or at least they should be, since you shouldn't let the enemy team have all drakes. But yeah, if you just ignore dragons all game long, the team which got the dragons will have an easy win. > Herald tbh shouldnt be so easy to solo, remove the eye mechanic so the toplane would get some action aswell It's easy to solo, even without the eye mechanic. That thing does no damage, and that's the reason why it's easy to take. Without the eye mechanic, it would take ages to take that thing, and nobody would be able to get it, because even after an ace the enemies would be able to respawn and contest again before you are able to take that damn thing. > Also 1 herald is enough, just make it a proper objective instead of lane oppressor tool used by the fed jungler, who bullied and camped your lane, now you lost your turret and enemy laner earned 630 free gold I feel like you don't understand jungle at all. Respawning Herald is a pretty good objective, but if your enemy jungler takes it, you can take the dragon. Cross map playing, pathing, all aspects of jungling.
> I feel like you don't understand jungle at all. Respawning Herald is a pretty good objective, but if your enemy jungler takes it, you can take the dragon. Cross map playing, pathing, all aspects of jungling. Usually by the time enemy jungler gets herald their team already has full control of the dragons Like I said the herald is used atm as tool for the fed jungler to oppres the camped lane even more. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
Câstiél (EUW)
: Well, I played it for 7-8 years, and I say so too. Only thing which seems "too strong" is elder dragon, which is alright since it's just a tool to end games which are quite long (that's a question of overall gamedesign and is another discussion). > so pls change your opinion about the current state is the most balanced.... its not .. .ask rioteers .. its not.. ask high elo.. its not.. low elo ? .. theyll always say its not.... pro players and stream... they ll say it is not... at least not this year... not the most balanced... Can you give me a source on that? Because I never heard a rioter or a high elo streamer say that the game is really unbalanced right now. EDIT: Well actually I did. Some say it is, some say it isn't. Because it doesn't come down to elo, it's about a subjective opinion.
Ocean soul on tank matchups, broken Wind soul on assasin team, broken Fire soul on adc/AP heavy team, broken Only balanced soul ive seen so far has been mountain which only brings slight defensive utility, rest on the other hand are just bollocks to face. Herald tbh shouldnt be so easy to solo, remove the eye mechanic so the toplane would get some action aswell. Also 1 herald is enough, just make it a proper objective instead of lane oppressor tool used by the fed jungler, who bullied and camped your lane, now you lost your turret and enemy laner earned 630 free gold. {{sticker:zombie-brand-mindblown}}
: > [{quoted}](name=Mendökusai,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=IAgNyEm3,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2020-01-13T20:17:23.121+0000) > > Ah my favorite casual trolls have joined the chat, welcome. Though I usually just ignore what you 2 say, because they hold no factual weight. Since after all you 2 only play normals. > > > Am I diabolical? > Champion that has 31% banrate > Over 50% winrate > Over 15% pickrate > Doesnt that tell you something about the champion? Doesnt sound any overpowered to you? > > Champion that literally one sidedly can win lane just by hitting Q and auto to apply %%%%%%ed long cc while doing absurd amount of damage + allowing the adc to deal dmg to you freely. Champion whos toughest matchup is what a surprise almost similar by kit: Leona > > Instead of ridiculing me with your nonsense how about you throw some facts on the table? Capisce? No need to get horny, I am joking dude, how's it going in silver 2? Make it gold real soon, okay?
Probs next week. Though I got some work starting next week. Maybe couple games here and there.
: Can we please get rid of this monster called Nautilus?
Ah my favorite casual trolls have joined the chat, welcome. Though I usually just ignore what you 2 say, because they hold no factual weight. Since after all you 2 only play normals. Am I diabolical? Champion that has 31% banrate Over 50% winrate Over 15% pickrate Doesnt that tell you something about the champion? Doesnt sound any overpowered to you? Champion that literally one sidedly can win lane just by hitting Q and auto to apply %%%%%%ed long cc while doing absurd amount of damage + allowing the adc to deal dmg to you freely. Champion whos toughest matchup is what a surprise almost similar by kit: Leona Instead of ridiculing me with your nonsense how about you throw some facts on the table? Capisce?
Kashukah (EUW)
: Remove or tone down Dragon Soul’s
Honestly they should still tone down the Dragons as objective aswell. Games are played around mid/bot section of the map. So Mid and bot lane have so much weight put on them. Many flame jungler if the team doesnt get dragons, but its actually Bottom and midlanes job to secure dragons. Ive had so many games where enemy collapse on me without my bot and mid reacting or following at all. Then blame me for not having any dragons even if I pinged help me at dragon please for 20 pings, but nope. {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}}
Kaluchii (EUW)
: Worst experience SOLOQ so far in 10 years.
Rioter Comments
Shaebadu (EUW)
: fizz is annoying as fk i agree. he needs to stay targetable during his E. there is no counter to his R, E, W, Q combo... Like literally faceroll across they keyboard to get kills
I think there should be just a slight moment of invulnerability so he can still outplay people in a way, but he shouldnt be allowed to sit on that pole being untouched like zhonyas effect before hopping down. So we could avoid those random E into zhonyas into E and he's out moments
: Can't wait to pick Lissandra, Zilean, Olaf or Sion mid and use a 120 second cooldown item against an ultimate that comes back after 100 seconds at rank 1.
Dont forget how low Fizz can get his ult CD by mage items having CDR in almost every core item ;)
2xDealer (EUW)
: Funny thing: it's not mages who benefit the most. It's AP assassins, like Fizz (or those few who can do a oneshot).
Also Ekko {{sticker:sg-shisa}}
Infernape (EUW)
: Yeah, while making him entirely unviable. If Riot were to remove it, he would need to be compensated somewhere else, IE damage.
Tbh I dont have anything against Fizz, because I just usually keep him banned :D I honestly just hate the mage items that make his snowball possible, and hate mages in overall the most. Too cheap, cost efficient and broken when compared to how much stats and effects they give. While having nearly no viable MR items to fight against the % of hp based magic dmg many of the mages dish out. Buy 2-3 MR items is countered with 1 AP item completely. While you technically need 2 armor pen items for the same amount of penetration effect as AD based champion. Void Staff 2.65k gold 40% flat penetration LDR 2.8k gold 35% flat penetration and less stats BC 3k 24% penetration The AP item bias is real :D {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}}
Luqiez (EUW)
: Nerf Fizz !!
Erm its actually R W Q :D But what ever Or atleast just remove the zhonyas effect from his E would make him alot easier to counter.
: Lee Sin is getting extreamly repetetive to play against
Whole camping based jungling meta is totally stale and repetetive. The whole jungle meta has been so repetetive since pre-season 10: {{champion:64}} {{champion:19}} {{champion:60}} {{champion:245}} {{champion:2}} {{champion:35}} {{champion:20}} Has been circle jerking off in a ring for months now. These champs just clear 2 camps here and there and sit on lane the rest of the time.
Morrhen (EUW)
: Ah, there's your problem. You main mid. Mid being one of the most sought roles. Second one being top. Then you complain about long queue times or autofill, when it comes with your roles. As opposed to support/adc which have considerably lower waiting times and mostly no autofill. My solution for ya? Learn to play support with a midlaner champion. However one which can support too. There have been fair bit of Lux, Brand, Veigar, Vel'koz, Neeko etc. supps. All doing fairly alright. You get to play them in supp. You won't likely perform nearly as well, since your job is to get your adc fed. In some instances though you can get yourself fed and end up semi-carrying your games. Who knows.
1. Mid 2. Top 3. Adc 4. Support 5. Jungle Since preseason 10 jungle changes, I pick fill and it has been 90% jungle role filled
: FIX %%%%ING MATCHMAKING
Honestly they should just make Ranked Solo (not duo) and make it also so that its blind pick aswell, while still assigned to a wanted role. So the matchups would be 50/50 from the champ select, unlike now, if you get counterpicked you know sure well its going to be a rough matchup. If enemy picks a certain champ it wouldnt just be possible to picked twice. And roll out bans in normal way. Matches shouldnt be decided from champ select but through playing. If you want to play with premades just play flex. You could go solo into flex aswell, but you know you might get premades against you. And in flex you would be able to see what enemy picks, unlike in ranked. {{sticker:sg-shisa}}
Morrhen (EUW)
: But... ADCs aren't restricted from buying Zhonya too. It's going to be useless for AP part but armor is nice. Having invincibility every minute and a half is also nice. Not as effective as for mages but option is there. ADCs aren't supposed to stand there. Adc is highly advised to move around, kite the enemy. Where mages can afford to stand there, vomit out their combo and try to get away, while sneaking in few AAs. That being said - YES. More item variety would be amazing. Balance would horrendously go down... however that's something item removal or few patches can fix. Small price to pay for new items.
Wow second time that Im actually agreeing with you. {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
Luciferrx (EUNE)
: Jgl is still best role into the game.You can change the fate of a lane easily with a gank.And bcs riot is not smart they nerfed jgl and puted op drakes and herald xD.Yeh logic.
I quote Hashinshin "But what about toplane Impact" Usually the toplaner is just left alone, because main action in the game is played in mid/bot section of the map. If a toplaner is counterpicked into hard counter such as ADC/ranged poker top and jungler never makes his appearance you literally play a 4v5 game at that moment. Making the enemy toplane completely useless. Honestly Herald and Dragon pits should switch places when ever the other one is slain, that would make matches hell alot more exciting
: That's wrong actually. It is very risky for a mage wondering around with only a tear of the goddess in their inventory, it gives no stats other than mana so they are very weak early game.
Tell that to Ryze, Anivia and Cass I just dont see your comment making any sense. Their base damage is off the charts, after tear they just spam spam spam without any worry in the world. Add lost chapter to that equation and you get a mage(usually with a TP) thats never leaving lane unless to roam. {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}}
Luciferrx (EUNE)
: Hey hey...{{champion:38}} got nerf -5 movement speed {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}} Balance team is awful and need to be replaced asap before its too late.
Amen! {{sticker:sg-syndra}}
: jg role its just a joke right now you failed one gank you legit lose so much xp you are behind and pretty useless agree with legit repetitive champs like abusers on lee olaf and elise why not
One failed gank leave you behind by 3 levels. Its %%%%%%ed.
: 1 Adc migrates top because hey riot idea low xp level on botlane autofill players supp or adc don t syncronize and more 2.I agree nerf entire class+remove zhonya in game 3.I disagree except maybe ornn they are ok just nerf a little bit armor in this moment armor pen items are garbage you are not vayne or kaisa you did 0 dmg in tanks
Yup, also they should give back catch up exp for junglers. Nerf early game camper junglers, so there would be more jungle variety than the same Elise/ekko/lee/olaf/nocturne circle jerk
Rioter Comments
martin501 (EUNE)
: Why cant riot nerf mages?
Remove Tear of goddess from the game that item is utter cancer on mages. Ontop already being oppressive, this cheap item makes them even more oppressive with never running out of mana ft lost chapter. The items are way too cheap and powerful.
: Ranked placement system?
Why is it so hard to understand Rank resets on new season? You cant just continue where you left. But preseason pretty much affects your promos. I started my climb from midway silver. Ended G3 last season. So im fine with that. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-catface}}
Luciferrx (EUNE)
: Dont play ranked s10 on first week!!
Played 8 won 7. Dunno bout you but ive had just fine games {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
: Rank placement
Whats the point of new season if your rank doesnt get resetted? Its about climb, you should get back where you belong in time {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}} I ended Preseason with g3 66lp, I started my 1st placement from b1 and now 4 games left and im half past silver already.
RayleighTT (EUNE)
: from a non jungle main , shyvana e got buff , have you guys heard about shyvana ap , i just finish throught telling you , that she almost can one shot anyone... , is just amazing , i run to have pretty amazing results with this ap build , which people not usually run ,Riot have no clue what they doing there into patches ,they just throw changes ,and nerf back if they turn something too strong ,is them way to be , is just giving you stuffs to talk and be happy for... ,even if some of them even do bad to this game.
As ex-shyv main I welcome these buffs, but I still want to play her as Attack speed bruiser/tank. Now i gotta depend on jungle Zyra I guess. Just foundout how ridiculous she is in jungle. Like a discount shaco.
: Great Patch
So you post a crappy thread, when you lost to a morde with 70 farm {{sticker:zombie-brand-clap}} {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}} {{sticker:zombie-brand-mindblown}}
: Reduce armor penetration on ALL lethality items
Erm, how bout no? How about we remove armor from armor items? How does that sound? {{sticker:sg-lulu}}
: What changes would you like to see this season ?
Proper matchmaking. Mages, tanks and ADC's need to be tuned back in line with other classes. Way to avoid premades in your teams who only set you back. Less-frequent champion releases. Last 2 releases were balance disasters, like always. No forced 50% via afkers/feeders/tilters {{sticker:sg-ahri-1}}
: Well that’s not exactly being abused, nor is it that strong, nor is it a bug... it’s not any different to that triple IE build for jhin and that died off immediately. It’s too much gold on litterally no power spike your better off going for an actual first item instead of wasting 3200 on a stat that needs attack speed and ad to actually be worth having
So 100% crit isnt abuseable? and those item component build into %%%%%%ed strong power spikes
: It was a bug that was barely noticed and only used on an off build for uydr and a few supports who built ardent censor anyway... so it wasn’t that big of a deal... but as Diana started to abuse the hell out of it she either needed to be balanced around the bug and it supported or it be removed... Bugs like this are usually fine if they don’t cause issues, but when something starts abusing it then it becomes an issue Riot have to address
Then cloak of agility stacking needs to be addressed aswell {{sticker:sg-shisa}}
: The self ardent censor buff was a bug, not intended... the 4 cloak build isn’t (also isn’t that good tbh)... the former deserved to go ASAP, the latter has more descussion required
Bug that lasted over half a year? :D Indy company it seems Loved to use that item on AP udyr, Diana and my fav pocket pick janna. Think ill just go font of life and continue running it instead of shield bash...
Rioter Comments
: Premades are being matched against teams with higher MMR to even things out.
Yeap and in flex if you happend to get a premade in your team theres 90% chance that you are going to loose this game. Because the premades bring their unranked's and low elo trash with them to be carried around. Bot and mid premade, 0 priority towards getting dragons. Great! Enemy team gets all dragons, baron and etc, because these 3 morons "just want to have fun with friends" seriously. I as solo player DO NOT WANT TO BE MATCHED WITH PREMADES If the game's lost I got 2 people refusing to forfeit the lost match they themselves caused. Doesnt that sound any TOXIC to you???
: Such Counterplay
You dont 1v1 darius at lvl 1. Lets start with that. {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}} Trust me learned this through experience. {{sticker:darius-angry}}
MusicaroN (EUW)
: play 3 more times against one, the 4th time you will learn how to roll her ... depends on your skills also
Play more games just to realize you cant do shit against her? {{sticker:zombie-brand-clap}} Great idea!
: I think the same when I play jungler. I easily farm those dump noobs. But the lane itself is super opressive, and if jungler suxx, it is really anti-fun. I don't understand the reason why they make a champion you CANNOT trade with. It's like having this sololane Lulu from previous seasons. Same design mistake.
Another issue is that she has longest AA range in whole game without any items. She pick glacial augment.... You can say good bye to fun laning. Even if jungler ganks, she is super hard to deal with because she is already past half way of the lane and just goes into her mist form. Literally swims away from ganks 90% of the time. She's like combination of Pyke and Shitmo, super oppressive lane bully. They should honestly remove her selfsustain, she is support, not selfhealer.
Ville (EUNE)
: Please make left click attacking would work with the target champions only feature
Or just use the options that already exist for that, lol.
mc4life (EUNE)
: I know, im just trying to be nice LOL.
{{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
mc4life (EUNE)
: First experience it before smartassing. leona wont work - he can ult before she stuns him alistart wont work -- its not long enough cc to kill 3k hp ekko with zhonya naut wont work -not long enough cc still, and its gotta be perfectly timed, naut r has some cast time while which ekko can ult out. Im not talking bout jg ekko, noone plays that, im talking bout midlane ekko which doesnt relay on early game slighest bit. Ekko isnt assasin and hes not played like one, he has his unique way of one shoting. zed, kat, fizz , khazix are assasins and require some skill: Zed - needs to hit pretty much everything and still might not kill adc thru PD, also is squishy and has no barrier/heal/shield/ momentum long range escape. Kata - easy to counter, while her dagger lands u have plenty of time to kill her. Fizz - Needs to hit r, and has no escape if he goes in. Kha - requires isolated target and must be in advantage entire game to be able to one shot adc later one. Pd counters him well too. Also i said that Ekko one shots with half item. With whole eko he can dive adc. Read carefully before smartassing Idk how it is in ur silver2 EUW elo, but in higher divisions ppl acutally know to play ekko and he is pretty damn broken.
Ekko only needs to E and right click on target to land Q's, if the shit goes to shove, press R or W. Ekko's kit is so overloaded its disgusting.
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