: Article11/13 - The end of the Internet as we know it
More info for those that are following this subject: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNAXsxTaA7M
Arzurag (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=MonarcaVis,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=uZlzN8Xx,comment-id=0003000000000000,timestamp=2018-11-29T10:58:35.131+0000) > > Every citizen in europe can state their opinion and can make their voice be heard. > Democracy is the system of government accepted in the European Union. > I doubt that any state on this planet can even call itself a democracy. Nowadays, the so-called democracies consist of nothing but its citizens being free/allowed to vote.
If it is not good enough for you, you can always go live to a country with a dictatorial regime or to an anarchic zone. Give to yourself the experience. Lucky for you, the democracy give you liberty to do that as well. ps: This line of text you quoted **"I doubt that any state on this planet can even call itself a democracy."** is not mine.
Darwinion (EUW)
: You can read that very thing on Wikileaks also. It might not be in the users (or companies) best interest that he / she can't just take whatever they want and post it as their own unrestricted, but I personally don't see that as a bad thing. There are also excemptions to art. 13 ensuring that you as a student (example) can use material without first obtaining a license to use it from it's copyrightsholder. So it really changes nothing except if a you are into conspiration theories.
We can only wait and see. I wanted to inform you and others about the regulamentatios that are been studied in the European Union, since this topic is geting alot of atention. This is evolving quikly and we have already a response of the European Union about the subject. If you have interest in this subject, i suggest that you and others keep yourselfs informed. Have a good day
: sauce? you're the one making claims, you should also prove them
The "Directive Of The European Parliament And Of The Council On Copyright In The Digital Single Market" You can find it by searching for it on google or bing or other search engine. I can't make your work of research for you. You should be proactive and search for the information you want, decide if its real or not and make your own conclusions. Don't rely on others to Inform yourself about what you want to know. All i can do is share awareness, you and everyone can decide what to do.
: The fundamental problem here is the fact that this world is not run by democracy(Like Athene and Sparta were, and even there, it was more of a "mens rule" than "Demos rule." Let's be honest, even with all the uproar, if bill needs to be pushed through, it will be pushed through. And this is something even trillions of signatures won't stop. It also won't stop the spread and use of internet, because it's so well coded into our kids and grandkids from young age. What does happen tho is the cyberterrorism threat and the physical terrorism threat rising rapidly over the course of few decades, until it causes either a civil war in one country or a world war. And we all know, economy on earth has always thrived after the war. Now, to steer back from the phantasy road, before I make a decision, I want to see the actual article that these opinions are based on. This means Article 11 and article 13.
Every citizen in europe can state their opinion and can make their voice be heard. Democracy is the system of government accepted in the European Union. I understand that are passive citizens that prefer to not object and be silent about things that can affect their life. All i can do is share awareness, you and everyone can decide what to do with the information. If you want to see and read the actual Article 11 and article 13, you can find then inside the Directive Of The European Parliament And Of The Council On Copyright In The Digital Single Market Have a nice day
: I still don't see the proposed law, just some rubbish bullshit panic
I can't open your eyes for you friend. The concequences are large and you will notice them for sure if the this regulementation is aproved. If you live in the European Union, of course. Try [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBTJb08VYUU) if you are having trouble understanding the consequences.
: > restrict the freedom of information in any other way In Europe for now, but we don't know if this regulamentation will spread to other continents. 1.) Any other way than what ? 2.) Is it affecting the whole Europe ? UK to Ukraine ? As of now, I do feel the internet is pretty much the same as it ever was. You're saying that these articles are already affecting me, and I didn't even know about them ? I don't feel censored at all.
This regulamentation goes to the vote in the European Parliament in January 2019. For now, this will affect the European Union Everything about the consequences, if this law is approved, can be found explained online https://dontwreckthe.net/ or https://www.reddit.com/r/Article13/comments/8qpe6c/article_13_what_is_it/ or [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igFFj15uiWc) or [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBTJb08VYUU)
Darwinion (EUW)
: It would help your case if you used valid arguments, the internet remains free as does information.., it just means you can't spread whatever you wish without obtaining a license from the source you spread information from, or that the copyrightsholder can request you take down their publications, but even that has amendments to help small and micro businesses if you are a registered company with less than 50 employees / 10 million in turnover annually. With all digital laws, there are pro's and cons to this legislative proposal, one potential con is that it could in theory result in a higher marked dominence for companies like Google, though with the frequent updating on this bill, I am not sure that is going to happen (It already exists in Germany). The definitive pro for it, is that companies who make money on a given continent / country also pay tax on their turnover on that given continent / country instead of funneling it to a tax shelter.
The argumentation can be found online. You can try https://dontwreckthe.net/ or https://www.reddit.com/r/Article13/comments/8qpe6c/article_13_what_is_it/ or [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igFFj15uiWc) or [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBTJb08VYUU) Have a nice day.
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MrVört (EUW)
: Critizism with the aim to look down or talk down someone else, that's a bit Toxic. Yes, providing critizism is not a bad thing, but you also gotta put it nicer and instead give Constructive Critizism. As example for that Lee: "Shaco took your red, but didn't take his own and you didn't go take it? Just think about it next time it happens so you don't fall behind :)" Just act positive, respond positive and provide a solution.
> Critizism with the aim to look down or talk down someone else, that's a bit Toxic. Yes, providing critizism is not a bad thing, but you also gotta put it nicer and instead give Constructive Critizism. > > As example for that Lee: "Shaco took your red, but didn't take his own and you didn't go take it? Just think about it next time it happens so you don't fall behind :)" > > Just act positive, respond positive and provide a solution. I had to log in into my account in my workplace just to DONVOTE this. {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}} Have a nice day
Pàblo II (EUW)
: Minion HP bug?
Steroids? {{sticker:sg-zephyr}}
Murderdoll (EUNE)
: Please take my RP to give the gift my boyfriend deserves
All you need is: 1º Quiet room 2º Black lingerie Go get him Make it biblical {{sticker:sg-jinx}}
: I CANT move
Check the batteries of your wireless mouse. ...it worked for me. {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
: Why ban toxic people when there is a mute button
Its because riot is very mean... {{sticker:slayer-jinx-catface}}
GreyfellD (EUW)
: Can Kai'sa get nerfed yet?
Ban that void whore with all your might. She is broken. She makes no sense. Don't let her enter the game. {{sticker:sg-shisa}}
Daveth96 (EUNE)
: Direct x error
If Ctrl-Alt-Del doesn't fix it... better buy a new pc.
Daveth96 (EUNE)
: Leave penalty for no reason
About penalties for no reason... The penalties are harsher than never, one time my pc crashed and everyone in my team got upset so they remake and report me for afk. I got leaver buster with 5 games and got very upset. I went to aram and troled very hard for 5 games straight and made 20 people upset in the process. After leaver buster ended everyone lived happy ever after. {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
: Any good tips on Draaaaaaaven?
Pick the things he sends flying. {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-popcorn}}
Joyi (EUW)
: Permanent Ban
...man u need to get laid. Go get yourself a girlfriend or a boyfriend ...what fill your taste. Look at the extent of this board... So much sexual tension. So much sexually frustrated filled comments. Stop playing video games, go to a night club, drink some vodka, hit on some people. Go get a life. {{sticker:sg-ahri-2}}
Hansiman (EUNE)
: > If players want to abuse the fact that they need high grades... its a good thing. No, quite the opposite. It's a bad thing since it will promote playing in a way that best suits you, and not your team. This will mean people won't come to help allies because they might risk dying, which can impact their grade. --- > For this to work, getting a good grade must be related to how useful u are for your team This won't be something an automated system can do accurately, since it will have to analyse decision making. You'd still need humans to do this, and that can't be done due to the size of this game.
Ty for your response. All I can say is that this singular player evaluation must be thinked and programed by Riot engineer's. So that the flow of the game gets better and not the opposite. As I said this will require an big upgrade to the Grade System, that they use to mesure your positive impact in the game so you can get chests for Hextech Crafting, and apply it for LP. Automated systens can do many things accurately, it's just a matter of resources and if the resources used will bring a greater profit. Look how online advertising works for an example. i dont know if this would be a great investment for riot to make or if it's something that they can do easily.
Èclair (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=MonarcaVis,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=OJGTav8M,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-03-30T18:39:22.224+0000) > > If players want to abuse the fact that they need high grades... its a good thing. If u want good grades, u need to know how to play the basics. No, if you want good grades you need to know how to abuse system. First of all, grades are based on how well you perform with certain champion in certain role in comparison to other players around either your MMR or mastery level playing this specific champion in this specific role. In other words - the less popular is your pick the easier for you to get good grade. I remember going for Nidalee support because my friend wanted to get an easy chest and all the champions he knew to play with were already ineligible for him. I actually had decent KDA with decent amount of damage and the vision score I usually get as a support main. I got either S or S+ but if I were to go with Janna and end up with exact same score, I wouldn't get even a A. Why? Because people who play supports usually pick something useful and not Nidalee, so those who went with her probably were autofilling and couldn't do much in game. Not to mention that Nidalee pales in comparison to Janna and I would never go for her as a support in ranked. But I would have to in order to prevent losing too much LP because with this system would favour people who are going for popular and strong picks will lose more than those, who play off-meta picks. > If a team can bring down the Nexus sooner it's from the effort and skill of some or all it's members and this should be rewarded. No, it shouldn't. That's a stupid idea since people do pick late game champs and go for late game team compositions. Making a system to artificially favour early-to-mid game champions makes no sense at all, especially when the meta shifts towards late game. > For this to work, getting a good grade must be related to how useful u are for your team and how positive active u are from the beginning til the end and this point must be thinked and programed by Riot engineer's. But why? You propose entirely new system to replace the old one, but you fail to mention why is this needed or where did exactly the old one fail.
Hi, I really wanted that ppl expressed theyr opinion about the method. I do not have the knowledge of the game to figure out if this system might be bad or good, that's why I asked the community of this game. I just wanted to create something Fair for everyone, i believe that as it is the present formula it is not fair for all players involved in a ranked experience. The brainstorming I maked was based on my little understanding of the game, sry if it is all stupid ideas. I would be much appreciated if u could create yours and put them out to be a fun discussion.
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House x33 (EUW)
: You don't get 20 min for 1 game, also not for 1 minute idle. Stop lying to yourself.
Do i need to prove my words and honesty to you? You think i need the worthless attention internet provides? I work 12 hours a day, i dont need to open void discussions filled with lies to kill my boredom. I already got the answers i was seeking, thank you very much for your comment.
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
If that is true then that can explain it, since i dont remember all my games before those. Looks like I need to be more carefull in the future. Thank you for the help.
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
In 20 games (my recent games) i did not do any of that. I cant remember my games before those, i think i got 1 remake this month but it was in the first or second week of the month. But still, i know that i didnt AFK once this month. Unless the system never resets and counts every single thing... i dont get it. If the system really do counts AFK, remake or bugsplats without reseting or expiring... ggwp riot. I didnt play the game in 3 days. I play 1 game. I stay still for less than 1 minute. Game ends. I get 5 games with 20 minutes of lower priority queue. Great! {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}} Thank you riot.
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
"Idle a lot" We are talking of being still for less than a minute in a game of 30-40 minutes... a lot. This penalization happened to me 2 times in the 2 years i play the game, and i cant understand it. Today was the second. I didnt play the game in 3 days. I played 4 ranked games today. In my 4º game i stopped at base for less than 1 minute as opponent team destroyed nexus... nothing i could do as Soraka. The game ended. I got 5 games with 20 minutes of lower priority queue. This is annoying and i cant understand why this keep happening. If i cant understand and im doing something bad how can i improve my behaviour? Pls help me.
Mas17 (EUW)
: That's such an extreme and rare situation that I don't think it happened to you enough times in quick succession to cause you a LeaverBuster punishment. And I highly doubt all of those were completely hopeless. Furthermore, the only way to justify being idle an entire minute with such a situation would be if every member of your team died at the exact same moment, as the maximum death timer is 53 seconds. And in any case, the mindset should be that either the team agrees to a surrender by voting or everyone keeps playing with the intention to win whatever it takes.
The extreme and rare situations you believe are rare, can all be very common in bronze after you play alot of games (quantity is the key). This happened to me 2 times in the 2 years i play the game, so as you see its not in quick succession. I dont play legue in 3 days, today i played 4 ranked games and in the 4º game i idled at the end for less than a minute as i watched the nexus explode. I got 5 games with 20 minutes of lower priority queue. I just feel that the penalisation dont make any sense.
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
I always get 20 minutes LPQ. The only thing i do is stay still. I dont stay still to lose faster i realy dont like to lose. its just that sometimes there is nothing to do but to watch the game end. I have no idea how leaverbuster works too with his "idle" situation. Minutes? Seconds? Who knows. All i know is if i stay still at the end of the game seconds before the game ends i can get a penalisation equal as being AFK. I feel that i can play for 40 minutes nonstop, but its the same as being AFK if i stop for a little to watch my nexus explode.
Mas17 (EUW)
: It can take 10 seconds of a fight to determine a game's outcome. So yes, staying afk or idle for 1 minute, even more so at the ending phase of the game, can be a game changer. And not in favor of the one who's doing it's team.
Sure! That sweet talk is always right. I will never desagree with it. As i stated: "i have the tendencee to idle at the end of the games when **all hope is lost** and sometimes i stay still at base for less than 1 minute." and then "The game ends..." My definition of **all hope is lost** is something like: All enemy team pushing mid with baron buff while i am the only one alive playing Soraka at 45 minutes. I dont know any way to change the game outcome in that kind of stuations. Is your recommendation to engage on all 5 enemies and try to stop them with my powerful heals? Should i just commit suicide and give my opponents 1 free kill? Or run around like a cockroach till the game ends? Cant i just stay still and watch my nexus explode?
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adi1983ro (EUNE)
: Don't usually check forums, however, what exactly you didn't understand? To suicide over trash talk ON THE INTERNET (but otherwise might be just as...) is just stupid. It means you have no power to cope with life, in real day to day life you have to put up with more s.hit then trash talk, you either learn to deal with it - like ignoring them, comming up with arguments to counter the trash talk - or you do stupid things, suicide is the most stupid of all, but other stupid things might be getting into drugs/alchool, getting phisical revenge. And to come back to what I said, since this game gives you the option to MUTE players, I don't really see how you can get to much trashtalk if you don't want to see it. Anything else you need me to explain? Btw, how old are you? I am 33.
Hi, i don't give out personal information on the internet. You dont need to explain nothing. I get it. If life is hard you just need to be harder. > If someone commits suicide over some trash talk over internet, they weren't gonna survive anyway This comment is gold. In a twisted dark way... but is gold. Emotions, right ? If ppl need, they can just take some antidepressants.
antonx963 (EUW)
: LeaverBuster change proposal
Hi, antonx963 (EUW) If you dont know if you have 30 to 40 minutes of free time to play one game of league of legends, never initiate any pvp game mode of the game. AFK for any reason is bad when you are playing team based games and the penalisations will never become softer. Play this game in your free time only. If you want something that distracts you between chores you can play custom mode or any other single player game.
Enjutsu (EUNE)
: This is something that bafles me about it, there are threads abou people complaining how they were banned after one game and then there's this. My guess would be that low elo players waste theyr reports and barely anyone has any worth in theyr reports.
Hi Its not a matter of quantity or worth of the reports. The system Riot uses to punish bad behavior is really efficient detecting flamers. Homophobic and racist behavior can lead to a direct permaban without any warning. Most of the ppl that came to this boards complain got banned by being negative in chat, they flamed or/and used de chat to harass other players. They usually post their chat log followed by their complaints. The detection of intentional feeders is nearly nonexistent. The game can't differentiate between an intentional feeder and a player that is having a bad game or lacks skill.
Hansiman (EUNE)
: Considering just today there's been at least two complaining here on boards about getting banned for intentionally feeding in a game, how does that mean Riot doesn't ban trolls? One type of misbehaviour doesn't excuse the other. Both are unwanted.
Ho, hi there. Thank you for replying to my comment ~~completely void of content~~. Yes, Riot ban trolls... even a broken clock is right two times a day. All types of bad behavior are unwanted by default in all social interactions.
ACEJinx (EUNE)
: Punishing those who flame, but not the trolls?
> You allow trolls to completely ruin the games of others... Yes, Riot allow trolls to completely ruin the games of others. > ...you allow people to completely ignore lanes... Yes, Riot allow people to completely ignore lanes. > ...but you won't allow me to respond to someone who flamed me? No, Riot won't allow you to respond to someone who flamed you. > You system is just phenomenal, it doesn't need fixing what so ever :) It's perfect! EDIT: Kappa
: And just another off topic matter about the game's content. I don't even want to speak the lack of originality this game has while the company says that they try to do the opposite, just by looking at the most recent champ Camille .. lol like seriously what a cheap copy from whatever the anime series people talk about the creator must be a fan of that series that's the only explanation. I just can't stop thinking why don't we have an inspired goblin champion all these years or any other cool mythical creature like a gryphin.
Camille = Kingsman Gazelle + Attack on Titan She is cool
Drackk (EUW)
: no, that simple logic wont work on me. i know the risks, however my point is im NOT a robot, im a human being and did fine 6 long years in a row in which i got trolled, flamed at, and yelled to day in day out. now sorry that i didnt uphold your code for the last couple of games and instantly got the perma. and unlike the people online, i CAN harm myself by hitting the doors, break things (including my hand) i rather yell at people that can simply mute me. HOWEVER i wish i didnt flame at all. it was wrong, but if i was a fortuneteller i would know when to stop beforehand and not play at all. also there was no email. i already send them a ticket and lets see what that will do. if they think outside the box and actually hear what i have to say, then i have a chance. not every rage is the same. if i flamed everyday, and called people homophobic things on top of it then fair enough. but this is far from the actual case.
The logic is not meant to work on you, it's the logic of the game, you are not the first victim of it. Its not my code. I know that hitting furniture hurts, i tried it once, all my rage and frustration were replaced by pain at once... i needed ice. I believe that what caused your permaban were your idea that people online cant get hurt by flaming, if you search in this Player Behaviour forum you will find that you are mistaken and there are emotional ppl playing this game that take words in a really personal way. /mute is not a solution, its just first aid for those ppl. Maybe Riot will understand your point and give you one more chanse since its your first bad behavior in 6 years.
Drackk (EUW)
: INSTANT PERMA BAN!?!??!?!!?
Hi Drackk (EUW), i think that you made a singel mistake that cost you your account. I will not agree or oppose you. All i can say is that the report system that deals with negative behavior in chat is a bot. Its a A.i., a cold and heartless machine/algorithm, so think about this when you type anything bad in chat. Everyone knows the consequences of going against the terms of use of the game. It does not matter if you were emotional unstable in that day or if you behave negatively frequently. Riot dont give instant perma bans without a reason, i am sure that if you look closely to the email Riot send you justifying your penalisation you will find those reasons. Note: > rather then taking it out on my family, breaking my furniture or stuff like that i took it out on league. You cant walk in a bar, punch everyone on the face, walk home and expect that will not be consequences... next time chose the furniture.
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
Yes, but i feel i don't need to prolong my thoughts any longer. You are free to add more information if you want.
: I HAVE ENOUGH OF THIS...
Hi, Lady Cindy (EUW) Sadly the best course of action is to change your summoner name. For more information about why ppl act like douchebags in this game maybe [this](http://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behaviour-en/1oaA4AA5-please-stop-this?comment=0007) will help you.
: Please stop this
Hi, Lena Loves Pizza (EUW) The behavior you posted it's not a league of legends related problem and is pretty common in the Internet. Internet offers the status of anonymity (for regular users) and with it the sense of security. Basicaly some ppl feel they can write all the bullshit they want without facing any real consequences. In this game there are consequences for that kind of behavior, the report system is very good catching those ppl if u report them. When you are dealing with that kind of bad behavior understand that ur dealing with a frustrated and sad individual without any maturity. Understand that all what they write is bullshit, and you can care about what they write or be smart and treat it how bullshit must be treated. In communication words have little to no influence (7%) in causing human reactions, they have the importance ppl make them have. But if you add to them non-verbal elements (55%) and vocal elements (38%) you will provoke human reaction. In the Internet, communication is made without non-verbal elements and vocal elements, we have emojis and memes but still you can't compare it to a real face to face conversation. Don't give to words the importance they don't have. Don't confound the effect that words can have on ppl and the tolelance ppl have when dealing with bullshit, that's two different things. If your tolerance when you are dealing with bullshit is low, words can and will do damage to you. I suggest that you find a way to increase your bullshit tolerance, it will be very beneficial for you even if you are a emotional person, i increase mine using reason/rationality. I hope this will help you. Note: Sry if i used the word "bullshit" too many times.
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
Hi, Aladoron (EUNE) The best way to rise in ranks by yourself is to play a very small number of champs. If you feel the need to rise in ranks really fast you will need to carry your teams. --- To carry, you need to play something that can turn into a powerhouse really quickly (snowball really hard). Ex: Jax, Tryndamere, Leblanc, Fizz, Riven, Yasuo, Draven, Vayne, Akali, Fiora, etc. Then you need to chose one and master him to the point you memorize all their lore, in game quotes, combos, damage, builds, playstyles, matchups... feel the champ, breath the champ, be the champ (go as deep as you can on that champ). Finaly you just need to win your lane, roam and win your teammates lanes... not in this order. Final note: Champs with mobility and outplay potential are the best for the job, if they have aoe damage then... --- If you can dedicate yourself to one champ with that kind of attributes you will be able to carry by destroying **everything** in your path.
: > First of all, there's a mute option. So i should go into games thinking: "These people are all assholes and will flame me, better mute them"? > Also, the other guy doesn't even know you in real life, What does knowing somebody have to do with insults? I know nothing about you, but I can still call you an asshole.
> So i should go into games thinking: "These people are all assholes and will flame me, better mute them"? Yes, this will help you more than you think.
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
And i just wanted to make a joke.
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