: I dont think he has the guts to enter the competetive scene of chess. Imagine those 2 turn chekmates from diamond elo.
Lol Im pretty sure id slaughter all 3 of you together at chess. Hmu at facebook?
Rioter Comments
i no talk (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Murderius,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=p222EjEa,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-08-25T03:46:42.252+0000) > > Git gud. > > I am plat in 2 more accs and never get flamed. So why is it that such individuals as you always complain? > > Like I never get flamed and the minute i see someone spamming i insta mute that thing. > > As if punishment system will do any better, it will just piss more ppl off. Not everyone is unskilled uncompetitive as you are. Interesting words by a platinum player, "git gud". Seeing also your replies on other posts and this one, you seem like a quite delusional player, and maybe a punished one? Let me guess, you got a "unjustified" punishment? (Would explain the lack of your match history on the account, and your hate and trash talk towards RIOT)
I simply wanna talk shit to the guy who sucks but is in my elo and there is mountains difference between me and him. Problem? I wanna talk shit vs the very people u complain for, inters afks griefers.. I wanna talk shit to y bcs u think youre the only one who had this problem and now u blame toxic people, when there is clear difference between an intentional loser and a true toxic player such as me, but i dont give up nor troll nor quit or feed intentionally. Got any problem with that? You can stay in this game forever bcs thats about the only place ull be protected.
Shukr4n (EUW)
: Punishment means eventually never meet that player again. That s refreshing
Thats what you think? I have no problem, there are much more valid punishments, but perma ban is meant for cheaters, 3rd party program users for unfair advantage and those who bring harm to the game not twice in 100 games but 50. I believe ragequitters can have their ranked disabled for a while and toxic people can be completely muted for a while. **This is a reasonable punishment** + your opinion doesnt mean shi. Riot doesnt care. Time equals money/revenue, anything to keep players grinding, they perfectly know that 90% wont quit the game. > Punishment means eventually never meet that player again. Not true, theyve been punishing people, yet the game is still toxic. So your claim here isnt true, you just want their accounts banned. Which is cringey af. Plus youll probably meet them in other accounts. Again your claim is just felse.
: Doesn't make it any less legally binding fam. Just because you choose not to read it doesn't mean it doesn't apply to you. Ignorance is not a valid excuse.
Atleast thats where youre correct. Ignorance is bliss. Plus we both know that they ban accounts so people invest more time in the game, there is a real solution to flamers muting their accounts.
: You literally click the words "I Agree". How does that mean you're not agreeing to it? It could literally be no clearer. If you're pressing it so you play, then you're agreeing to those terms. It's also a contract. You don't sign a contract and then decide you don't agree with it so it doesn't count anymore. In any setting.
A new Deloitte survey found that over 90% of consumers accept legal terms and conditions without reading them. When faced with no choice, users are willing to accept potential consequences in exchange for access. LOL You are mountains away from reality and common logic. Get over yourself.
: >No the point wasnt freedom of speech. You do know and have an idea, but sadly you cannot make a connection. Then what human rights are we referring to? I've already explained the comparison in the right to a fair trial, and the only difference being no option for bail. I connected to that sequence of events incase you were referring to this one, but you were quite vague in your initial post about rights. >My point was: - no real judges here - no punishments for actions - summoner code focuses only on verbal offense rather than what challenges it All of which I explained previously in my other post. And there is punishments for actions, the burden of proof on that is significantly larger than it is for chat logs. Summoners code focuses on behaviour which includes and encompasses verbal abuse and toxicity. Part of the whole picture. >- i once said "dont touch me fgot" and the guy got offended so much he complained, but in the end nothing was done against me.Why? He shouldnt have put his hand on my back. First of all, at this point I feel like you're just trying to use that particular slur any chance you can in an example Secondly, you're again assuming everything is reactive. Toxicity most of the time is not. Despite the fact if your initial response to someone touching your back is to yell a slur at them, then there are definitely underlying issues here - unless it was of an aggressive nature - but again, vague. >Do you know why real rules arent applied in internet fully? Because the general assumption that human nature likes to argue and sometimes it gets childish. Every decent person knows this. Its like denying that 90% of the population je**s off to porn. Not really. Again, a large portion, somewhere over the 80% mark of the LoL community has never faced a restriction, because they follow the rules. The exact numbers are in the player behaviour dev blog if you care to look. Again, I also would like to point out that many of the rules on league are the same across multiple online gaming communities. I would then ALSO like to point out that rules change from different subsections of the internet. For example, I wouldn't expect 4chan to be full of rainbows and happiness - but you can post whatever really here. Flipside, can't post nudes to facebook. Should we remove that rule just because it doesn't exist in other parts of the internet? Rules are applied in every subsection - not to mention there's technically a whole international law document on restrictions on what can be posted as a whole - and legal systems are catching up, with Australian law recently updating that targeted harassment online can actually be prosecuted as an example. >So u got in a football match and the coach/teammate will yell at you "PASS THE BALL" What r u going to tell them? To "stfu"? Then report them for bashing you for your mistakes? You'll find most coaches will then educate you post game as to what you did wrong and why, without swearing at you. Decent ones anyway. Team mates might slag you once, but if they did it repeatedly over multiple games later then they'd probably be pulled in line by the team captain/coach. The same way you can't get a ban unless you use a word from the no-list, from just one game. It has to be multiple. >Obviously: - real life comparissons and law arent the same - you didnt tear a single point of mine you just made it seem like you did - you focused on slurs and claimed there are rights(which is true) but you forgot to mention context - Then you proceeded to glorify this s*itty company who is clearly not perfect and is pissing millions of people off. - The problem isnt in people slurring, the problem is in how the situation is handled. 1. They are, we've provided multiple. You refuse to acknowledge them, then provide alternatives that aren't really applicable. 2. I did, I've explained why each of your posts doesn't make sense, or isn't really appropriate here, but you come back with insults, and whatever really, but none of it really furthers your agenda. 3. I provided the context with text from Human Rights documents, which you attempted to cite. Regardless of the fact that a contract you sign when you play the game by clicking "I agree", whether you read it or not, basically says use of these words in general is not allowed and heavily frowned upon. This is also a general view in society and not restricted to league. 4. I've never said they're perfect. I'm just saying the system they currently run actively combats toxicity, and works quite effectively compared to alternatives we'e had previously. 5. The problem wouldn't exist if people didn't throw slurs or weren't toxic. So it wouldn't be there to handle if the first point never existed. Top notch logic though. >I mean its just amazing how these people can live everyday without problems, but when it comes to you, you feel like you need to take account rights because you cant mute?(restraining order which is given to you in a simple click) Mate, you're the one that brought rights into this debate. I simply pulled quotes from the document you tried to use and explained why it wasn't applicable here. But it's amazing you think that you can just insult people for the sake of it and not face consequence. Especially when you sign a contract when you click "I Agree" (yes, that's a legally binding contract by the way), that says if you display that behaviour repeatedly, you will have your access withdrawn. >If you think 5 people here in this forum and bunch of other kids who get triggered on the sight of "flamers" makes the majority then youre clearly mistaken. I suggest opening comment section of dunkeys vid and see for yourself. Asking me to use youtube comments for reference is like asking me to use 4 chan for reference. Different communities completely. Not to mention the IFS learns based on community feed back. The system literally learns and works off what the community deems not OK. >In fact the community isnt 2 types, its like 10 different types of people. Some are hypocrats, some dont even speak english, some are offended ppl like you, some dont care at all, some play to ruin games, some play to be acknowledged. Again, you keep drawing this conclusion I'm offended. Let me clear that for you. I'm not. I just dont believe toxicity should be tolerated or happening. It's two vastly different things. I've gone through way too much nonsense in life to care what the person on the internet said to me. It doesn't mean I have to tolerate it though. And it can all be broken down to two groups though: Those that follow the T&C's agreed to when signing up. Those that don't and face penalties for it. >There is a difference between self defense and attack. Riot doesnt consider this they just say "dont spam" and that alone pisses people off. Because this isnt community of mature people. Its common logic, that more than half of the player base arent gonna evem bother looking at tou. Because the "self defense" argument is nonsense. Flaming back literally doesn't help anyone, and further degrades the game experience. >You deserve worse slurs and insults tbh. Constructive argument is constructive. _**This is all despite the fact that you never technically own the account, and Riot reserves the right to deny access to it at any point, as per agreed to in the legally binding T&C's you sign.**_
> They are, we've provided multiple. You refuse to acknowledge them, then provide alternatives that aren't really applicable. > All of which I explained previously in my other post. And there is punishments for actions, the burden of proof on that is significantly larger than it is for chat logs. Summoners code focuses on behaviour which includes and encompasses verbal abuse and toxicity. Part of the whole picture. > Judges - player support, if you were wrongly banned, they'll overturn the ruling. Permanent ban cannot be lifted. They never focus on what caused it, they focus on the fact u did it. While real judges will look at both sides. So far youre based on BS. Keep believing in yourself Im sure your happy lol.. Nobody can ban you from living just because you insulted someone. Tear down this one. (Jk u never tore down anything)
Talk Dirty (EUNE)
: this is for you guys ... say ty
Maybe you should grow balls and say , "FU, dont talk to me or call me ever again."
: Remember that I agree button you click when you make an account? As shown in the above screenshot? That's you agreeing to the rules. Whether you choose to read them or not is really your issue. It doesn't make the agreement or contract any less binding.
It also doesnt mean i agree with anything, i just press it so i can play. It also doesnt stop me from saying its garbage.
: I was going to add to this, but you summed it up perfectly for me TCR.
What a nice couple you both are.. lol I never agreed with this company's rules. They perfectly know that, they made these rules to not get sued, and they also know that more than half of the people doesnt even look at them lol.
Osvetnik98 (EUNE)
: A Second Chance
Have some pride in yourself and leave this game. Dont feed this company with your time.
: A better question is: How did you manage to get 20 deaths in a 21 minutes game as tahm?
Economi (EUW)
: Riot has lost control. I'm sorry this just isn't enjoyable anymore.
When you force strict rules on a nation who doesnt want them, all youre going to get is civil war.
: >"Griefing losers" This is enough to get you chat ban, Im sure you can check the banned sections and see many pathetic examples. Not unless you're repeating it frequently. It's impossible to get a chat ban from one game unless you've truely crossed lines. >So basically you can give comparissons about real life and I cant. Genial display of hypocricy! No, I'm saying the comparison you gave isn't relevant or an accurate comparison to the situation we're discussing. You're welcome to make comparisons if they actually relate to the scenario at hand. >No, dont assure me, Ive seen cases like that.(A woman %%%%%in about why his bf left her and trying to annoy him and when she gets called with a slur she is like "He called me this" anything to make her seem as a victim. So the sins of a few damn the many? Most of the time people don't actively look to be called a slur. Despite the fact that we're discussing a homophobic slur here, not the one you're describing here which is a whole different can of worms we can go into if you'd like. >So why so many streamers manage to win with toxic people? I mean theres literally no evidence, right? Evidence on who actually ruins games? I guess the idea of being good and trying hard isnt liked by 12 year olds who wanna first time yasuo in ranked and start to grief? (and u know u will lose) Please I aint a beginner, I have good seven years behind my back,. Toxic people werent the problem in 2010-2015 era. We all played without demanding bans.. Just because you win a game doesn't mean the experience of that game wasn't ruined. As I've mentioned previously, I've won games where I had someone heinously toxic on my team before and all I wanted was for that game to end. The game experience does not end at winning and losing. We've been playing the game for around the same duration, and I can definitely recall the system banned people more frequently with false positives back when tribunal and tribunal rewards was a thing. _**People were actually punished for lesser offences than they are today back when you're claiming it wasn't an issue.**_ Not to mention the current system has been in effect since 2014 - part of the period you're describing. >I dont agree with the bans of no one. Perma bans should never be for trash talking. No matter the context. I still think you are bushurt to demand the ban of a fellow player. There is a fine line between banter/trash talk and toxicity. If you're actively targeting and harassing a player, that's no longer trash talk or banter. That's you being toxic. >Isnt that a personal remark tho? Who educates who? On what logic did you make that conclusion? You gave all these standards and examples, but when i gave them, you said "That isnt the case here", Who actually has a narrow view here? Because the examples you provided weren't relative. >Youre the one who denies actual laws and supports laws with no context.. lets not mention the age gap. Favouritism. I haven't denied anything? I've literally explained to you how your scenarios work, given details to my examples etc. What age gap? What???? >But still its pathetic to require bans instead of muting.. Youre so angry at these people for flaming you, you want them banned lol, you dont have the self confidence to even mute and play your game. Kek. No, most of the time I just mute and report and move on. If they get banned that obviously means it's a pattern of behaviour and people don't want to play with them - it also means they've already received multiple warnings to amend their behaviour and they haven't. >Chances are my comment will get deleted, but rember you were the one who got involved with me and made personal remarks first This whole chain of comments started with me saying it's not ok to use a homophobic slur (which it isn't), then you chiming in saying it is. If anything it was you who got involved here mate. Scroll up and see that part for yourself. > If we speak in real life, rules wont hold me back.. Unlike most of the people i dont support any government! I dont like anyone who wages war and profiting from it(killing people)! Thats the difference between you and me! That i dont care what trump says, what i care about is for him to not wage war. This is why my opinion holds higher value and will save more people, than your "follower" and "social" way of thinking, nothing can justify killing people, but sure listen to the American MIC, it makes it easier to turn a blind eye to action and also makes it wasier for you to call me narrow viewed. Nobody can ban me for saying "You live under a rock" but this community can, why? Because its offensivr lol. But it is true for people like you tho. Prolly never went to sports and act like they know what its like yo be yelled at by their coach, your parents spoiled you too much, youve never felt foreign anger and when you did, you didnt know how to defend yourself. This whole bit is rambling that makes no sense. I don't even know how to respond to this because honestly it's just nonsense.
Learn to mute. Its as simple as that. Age gap means that there is difference when 12 year old plays football with a 20 year old.. Clearly that doesnt exist in league. Because its different than any other activity irl, thats why its called online gaming, and 99% of the people know online gaming is filled with millions of people. If you get involved with me irl, ill call you homophobic slurs and police wont do anything i can guarantee. Harrasment isnt harrasment if you chose to take part in it. Those are the real rules. Its different than what 14 year oldw here think. Nobody will flame you or call you something without a reason. Surely you have the "restraining order" ingame and you dont use it.. its your own fault. You can report as much as you want, but half of the reports arent truly hate speech or harrasment. There is a difference. Between mild insults you can avoid or hate speech.. Its fine if i say i dont like homo, or I dont like certai group of people.. Its not a problem if its just my own opinion, its a problem if i start forcing someone to listen to me. For example if you ask me you like homos of black people and I say not at all.. nobody in the world can do something about that. For example a dialogue. - Why didnt u help me? - Because youre stupid. Cant be punished even if the word was homophobiv slurr. Youre the one who asked for it. Thats the logic behind actual laws. it can be never compared to this game because 1st its an automated system 2nd no statistics were ever released with actual numbers. Thats why all your comparissons are fake and untrue. Altho if you start to yell you will jave problems, but its different in a football game, in a football game everyone will yell. I feel so degraded explaining this to you, explaining the simple differences you have trouble to grasp and you believe you can control the way i speak to you if you ever tried to talk with me?? That is 1000 times more narrow view. League in 2014 had perma chat restricts and it worked for alot of people, its a complete lie that it didnt work, its a fabricated lie!!! I dare any rioter to show any actual facts. Most of the flamers reformed including me, cause i wanted to communicate and make the game easier to win. I did research on this before and there were still people playing from that time, those people were xhat restricted and actually reformed people now. Riot is all complete bunch of liars. why do i say this? Because they know the banned people 80 % of them will come back and play again, and level up to play ranked, this is all timr invested, and time invested in a game is REVENUE.. ITS MONEY! This is why this topic can never be argued and you dont have any proof of who are the **"majority"** Check dunkeys video "I quit lol" check the comment section and you will have an actual image of what the majority looks like. The rate of how often this gsme is played and the numbers are atleast 2/4 of what was in 2015. Sure they can day 100 million unique players, but they wont say how often the gane is played, how quickly people quit this game. and Riot made very loyal players like me quit this game.
Zyzyx (EUW)
: Is that so? I only know the german law, but there there is absolutely nothing about that, so "literally every law" is definitely already wrong. Do you happen to know the actual law that confirms what you just said?
Germany has harrasment laws. Its not harrasment if you chose to go oit with me and i called you, idiot. You have every right to leave and talk back. True harrasment is when, a person stalks you, hates you, tries to bother you. Learn your own laws please.
: >unlike you i aint silver 1. I dont "suck" as often as you do lol. https://pics.me.me/in-order-for-you-insult-me-i-would-first-have-15163074.png >Im not rude to people who play, but i am rude to people who think the world spins and evolves around them. So basically you're only rude to your own kind... I see... >My rank was platinum so that makes me a better teamplayer than you are. "I am good at playing the game so that means im a people person too" Just like Shaclone.. Lol >Thanks for thinking im your king, I do protect offended people sometimes http://memecrunch.com/meme/BMFW7/all-hail-trump/image.jpg
> So basically you're only rude to your own kind... I see... Anyone who plays the game isnt a problem for me no matter what they say.. that alone doesnt ruin the gameplay. > "I am good at playing the game so that means im a people person too" Just like Shaclone.. Lol More like "Im good at the game and I care about the game to be healthy, without trollers and griefers." Just like my self..
: Did you really come back to this 5 days later? :/ >You can never put a standard in internet. You can in sub communities on the internet.., Like LoL or any other MMO game. All of them have standards that you adhere to or you're politely shown the door. >In the past centuries there was wars, sickness. black death, tuberculosis, world war 2 and 1. but now is 2018 and everyone is offended LOL... Again, not so much offended as it is not putting up with nonsense. If anything it's really not that hard to not use slurs, but people seem more offended at the fact they're asked not to over the people that are asking them not to. #just sayin >What if i thought calling me narrow minded is offensive? I mean its an opinion, right? Didn't say you were narrow minded, said you had a narrow view. Tunnel vision type thing. More of a current action than a characteristic. >I dont know if its you who mentioned law and sports, altho its true nobody allows raging people, that also happens but its truly rare.. The reality of rules arent like in the book.. It was me, and both references are applicable here. The reality is the rules for LoL are in a .txt document you agree to when you make an account. >sometimes the victims willingly walk 2 miles just to see the offenders and try to piss them off., ive seen many cases like that, if you challenge negative behavior, youre the one who is reaponsible for what you got told. But this isn't the case here. This whole subthread is over you justifying the use of a slur that's not OK. I can assure you the people on the receiving end don't walk two miles just to have it said to them so they can respond. This whole line doesn't really make sense here at all. >So you calling me negative cannot be judged because I was the one who got involved with you in the first place. Again, not calling you negative. More misguided than anything, hence taking the time to try and educate you. >Think what you wanna think, but Ill say this with 200% confidence that you cannot comprehend what my mind is. All the stuff here is just a stupid example that is actually just 1%. What? Another sentence that makes no sense in this conversation. This is something similar to what Trump would pull out if he was backed into a corner. At this stage I have a pretty good grasp on your view point and where your mind is. >I wont leave from work nor from a shop or restaurant, if you decided to get involved with me and speak to me about personal matters and piss me ofd, youre also going to get blamed. If you said something to me in a shop i have every right to tell you "shut up".. and ive done it. If you decide to sit with me in a restaurant and have a talk and i dont like you i can call you whatever i want and it will be fine as long as it doesnt bother other customers, you are free to leave or talk back. But AGAIN, this isn't the conversation we were having. None of it was talking about being provoked. All of it was talking about the use ofa slur. If you said that slur out loud in a malicious way in ANY of these settings, I can almost guarentee there would be a response - hell I've been in places where people have been removed for yelling that at someone. Not to mention if both parties are causing an issue, both would be asked to leave. As is currently the case here and in most of the situations of "I only flamed because he did". >I just dont think gaming should be compared to real life activities Why? It's still interacting with people. Just because there is a screen between you and the other person doesn't make that person any less real. >Toxic people dont ruin games, the ones who get offended ruin them. They got the option to mute.. I personally used to mute all in alot of games, because i want to focus in gaming. Most of the time people don't get offended, they get irritated. Toxic people DO ruin games, otherwise a system that is built of the reactions of the majority of the community (the automated system works off learning what a large portion of the community deems OK and not OK. It's not some random list Riot put together, it's literally learning from the majority of the community). And the majority of the time people mute too. But the point is if I've had to utilize that mute button, that's already a negative impact on the game. >but im fine with people who come to talk, its the beauty of the sport. If i can deal with them then I am a true winner. But i guess some people are so horrible that they demand people to shut up? pathetic. ?????
Nobody had a problem in 2010-2015, the community was much different with less trolls, it was announced in news that league player base was a whole 1 billion, a number who wont be achievable anytime soon. There was toxicity but we dealt with it for years and its the bushurt people who had a problem with toxic people only because they couldnt play! Rarely a toxic person would just int. > Again, not so much offended as it is not putting up with nonsense. If anything it's really not that hard to not use slurs, but people seem more offended at the fact they're asked not to over the people that are asking them not to. #just sayin "Griefing losers" This is enough to get you chat ban, Im sure you can check the banned sections and see many **pathetic** examples. > But this isn't the case here. This whole subthread is over you justifying the use of a slur that's not OK. I can assure you the people on the receiving end don't walk two miles just to have it said to them so they can respond. This whole line doesn't really make sense here at all. So basically you can give comparissons about real life and I cant. Genial display of hypocricy! When you say all these principles and talk about sports that you clearly never been to it is the case, but when i mention it it isnt.Ive seen alot of women in denial #just saying No, dont assure me, Ive seen cases like that.(A woman %%%%%in about why his bf left her and trying to annoy him and when she gets called with a slur she is like "He called me this" anything to make her seem as a victim. > Not to mention if both parties are causing an issue, both would be asked to leave. Thats what I agree with! But that doesnt happen in league. Not to mention you lose your account which is pure and the biggest nonsense there is. > Most of the time people don't get offended, they get irritated. Toxic people DO ruin games, otherwise a system that is built of the reactions of the majority of the community (the automated system works off learning what a large portion of the community deems OK and not OK. It's not some random list Riot put together, it's literally learning from the majority of the community). So why so many streamers manage to win with toxic people? I mean theres literally no evidence, right? Evidence on who actually ruins games? I guess the idea of being good and trying hard isnt liked by 12 year olds who wanna first time yasuo in ranked and start to grief? (and u know u will lose) Please I aint a beginner, I have good seven years behind my back,. Toxic people werent the problem in 2010-2015 era. We all played without demanding bans.. I dont agree with the bans of no one. Perma bans should never be for trash talking. No matter the context. I still think you are bushurt to demand the ban of a fellow player. > Didn't say you were narrow minded, said you had a narrow view. Tunnel vision type thing. More of a current action than a characteristic. Isnt that a personal remark tho? Who educates who? On what logic did you make that conclusion? You gave all these standards and examples, but when i gave them, you said "That isnt the case here", Who actually has a narrow view here? Youre the one who denies actual laws and supports laws with no context.. lets not mention the age gap. Favouritism. But still its pathetic to require bans instead of muting.. Youre so angry at these people for flaming you, you want them banned lol, you dont have the self confidence to even mute and play your game. Kek. Chances are my comment will get deleted, but rember you were the one who got involved with me and made personal remarks first. Favoritism ;).. If we speak in real life, rules wont hold me back.. Unlike most of the people i dont support any government! I dont like anyone who wages war and profiting from it(killing people)! Thats the difference between you and me! That i dont care what trump says, what i care about is for him to not wage war. This is why my opinion holds higher value and will save more people, than your "follower" and "social" way of thinking, nothing can justify killing people, but sure listen to the American MIC, it makes it easier to turn a blind eye to action and also makes it wasier for you to call me narrow viewed. Nobody can ban me for saying "You live under a rock" but this community can, why? Because its offensivr lol. But it is true for people like you tho. Prolly never went to sports and act like they know what its like yo be yelled at by their coach, your parents spoiled you too much, youve never felt foreign anger and when you did, you didnt know how to defend yourself.
: Is the game better than ever before? (Overall Experience about Player Behaviour)
The rules and the strict punishments only made it worse. I have pride in myself i quit the game, id rather not play than have my account banned because i talked shit in a game. Cs is way better. With sjw rules and principles, this is no longer an interesting community, all sjwd are triggered people and they use fake "rules" to suit their weak emotional state and the blind unrealistic and spoiled belief that everyone should respect them no matter what they do(even when they give up), with all the losers who intentionally stay there and dance while you try to win and play and report you so **you get punished**. With such company who supports this kind of fa**ji**otry, this is no longer league we once knew.. I liked the idea of facing different people and different attitudes and skill levels, but now its just stereotypical people limited in sheep premises. Sjw rules - sjw community. People used to die from world war 1 and 2 and from tuberculosis and black death now its 2k18, people are offended. Disgusting, not playing untill they change this shit.
Shukr4n (EUW)
: Suggestion Be A Decent Human Being , Dont Break Rules /thread
Now i would never hurt a person, but i dont owe respect to griefing 10 year olds or stuck up manly teens, who are so salty and edgy that they provocate every competitive person in the game and I am certainly not willing to spoil their sense of nonexistent reality in an online game, lets not mention those who intentionally ruin the game so you rage and they can report you. Its unhealthy. Not fun. Lot of people quit, including me. There is nothing wrong with rules, but banning people is just wrong. Its all for business purposes if any, because they know that 80% of the banned people will create a new account and apend time leveling up so they play ranked again.. they want that time for revenue. But thousands of people have no idea about this. Its okay to use chat ban,but perma banning for this is just wrong, i actually researched their experiments in 2014,2015.. I found more reformed people who made a thread about their restrictions and were still playing. So clearly to me. Riot are abusing people and thats like 60% the reason of why i quit this game.
Zyzyx (EUW)
: > .There is no country in world, as far as i know,that forbids bad speach You are wrong. Pretty much every country has a law for insults.
Literally no law and nobody can do anything to you if the victim provokated the insult or was involved in a envoirnment that is expected to be toxic.
: >Plus i am a person who had 2000 honors you keep bringing this up as if it means something. honor level is no more indicative of your in-game behaviour than mastery points. it's just eye candy. nothing more! > unlike you i dont get offended! Or take things personal, then why did you get banned for flaming?:P >and I will never agree with you. you sound like someone who is open to change... /s
> you keep bringing this up as if it means something. honor level is no more indicative of your in-game behaviour than mastery points. it's just eye candy. nothing more! it means that 2000 people liked playing with me. >then why did you get banned for flaming?:P Because of people like you who value attitude more than gameplay. They lose just because someone said something to them, lol. > you sound like someone who is open to change... /s Early centuries - Black death, tuberculosis, wars, chaos. Modern centuries - world war 1, 2. 2k18 - PEOPLE ARE OFFENDED. LOL
: >It may or may not ruin the game. But let the better team who handles it win. For me if you try to get rid of toxicity your killing another competitive part of the game, which is why i quit at the end of s7. There is a HUGE level of difference between competitive banter and toxicity. If you were in a football match and you hurled a slur, you'd be removed from the game and possibly banned from playing. There's already countless examples of this in professional sport. >The better players care for their plays, they dont care what anyone else say.. I have flamed like hell and still won the games, i havent flamed at all and ive lost games, so the theory that flaming ruins the game isnt true. It's not a case of ruining the game, its a case of creating a negative experience - Besides the fact that the game doesn't end at winning, but also enjoying the plays, whether it was a nail biting loss, or a roflstomp victory. I've won games where I've had the most horrendous flamers on my team. I've lost games with the nicest people I've ever met. _**I thoroughly enjoyed the lost ones more because I didn't have to put up with someone throwing a glorified temper tantrum.**_ I usually heavily dislike winning with someone flaming because I didn't enjoy playing with them at all, and it ruins the game experience for multiple people. >I guess 5 years later they finally got a system that bans, and league is not as nearly popular as it was. I guess Riot now ade having headaches of people constantly complaining everyday. LOL.. serves them right. The current system has been in place since 2014. You later compare the current state of it to 2015 in your post, which I'll cover shortly,_** but the system that exists now existed at that point in time too.**_ >Plus i am a person who had 2000 honors. I am friendly as long as you dont push a certain agenda, you can say im an a-hole, you have everyright.. unlike you i dont get offended! Or take things personal, nothing you say here will make me report you. Say Kiss your self if you want i still dont care. Kudos to you, it usually takes a lot to genuinely offend me as well. Using the predescribed slur usually doesn't - lawd knows I've had it thrown at me countless times in my life already - however _**you**_ don't get to define what is offensive to_** other**_ people. Especially when we're referring to words and behaviour, that if done publicly in person anywhere else would face heavy social ramifications (removal from the premises etc.), or possibly legal ramifications. The anonymity of the internet should not change your behaviour, and doesn't give you the go ahead to act like an "a-hole". >Fact is you dont even deserve my presence nor my opinion.. plus i am 22 years old i know how business works ive worked before. But playing games isnt work, at work it doesnt affect me when someone leaves, if someone made people lose money on purpose there would be harsher consequences than just "flame" and if u had business u should know what im speaking about. So i dont think we should make comparissons. Then you have a very narrow view on life at that age already. I'll repeat it again - the standard level of behaviour (e.g. not insulting people or using slurs), is basically expected everywhere. Being on the internet doesn't remove that standard. Sure you can go ahead and drop below it, but expect to face consequences by communities that want to uphold a basic level of morality. Businesses would hold that standard slightly higher, but in the case of the word we're talking about, I can guarentee you that if you started hurling it as abuse in a bar, restaurant, shop or anywhere in general society really, you'd be asked to leave. _**Why should that be any different here?**_ >Actions have bigger impact than words. + you can avoid words.. the only not equal thing here is that i give you plenty of reason and options and you dont give me a single option, i have to mind you and care for your feelings?! Get a life. Both can have as much of an impact as the other. Whole wars have been won and lost based on words. The current political state of the world is all words. You've literally only given the reason of "I don't like people, so flame. I don't like the LGBT community so using a slur against them is OK." It's not a case of restricting your options. It's a case of being a decent human being and learning that "hey, I shouldn't discriminate or be nasty to that person just because they are different as who they are". Just don't be human garbage and you won't have an issue. >Your only option is to support a business, without questioning. People have to get banned? The game is dead compared to what it was in 2015!! All the new players are toxic and they quit as soon as they get banned, they quit as soon as they see how butthurt is this community. No, you'll actually see me regularly walk through with people why they received a punishment here on the forums. I literally explain into detail as to why once the information is provided. People also receive warnings before a perma ban in the form of chat restrictions and a 14-day ban. It's only VERY RARELY immediately escalated to a perma ban. So at that point, people getting perma'd is by their own doing. Again, the current system has been in place since before you're claiming it was an issue. The game is still very steadily growing with millions of games played every day - more than they were in 2015. I'd have to find the source for it but it was posted recently. It's not about the community being "butthurt". It's about the community not tolerating it. There's a distinct difference. It's a case of the community saying "If you're going to be nasty, we don't want you here". Which is a perfectly reasonable stance. It's adopted in almost every online community, and every event space, venue or anything in real life. It's really not something unique to league. >And its getting worse and worse. Not only they ban their players, they ruin the game too. >Believe what u want, but know 1 thing! I am fine without leage and I will never agree with you. I disagree, I think the game is entering a new phase, change happens, but I enjoy it. But hey, opinions are things. I have my opinion, and provided you with detailed reponses, you spurt nonsense that makes no sense, then completely shift the argument to unrelated territory with 0 data to back your claims. All because you think it's ok to be toxic. News flash: It's not. Riot has said that. The League Community has said that.
You can never put a standard in internet. Internet is big and contains all sort of information. The reason why it isnt toxic, is because people arent generally bad natured as you think. In the past centuries there was wars, sickness. black death, tuberculosis, world war 2 and 1. but now is 2018 and everyone is offended LOL... > however you don't get to define what is offensive to other people. What if i thought calling me narrow minded is offensive? I mean its an opinion, right? I mean you give opinions that may seem rude to me? - personal remarks - provocative attitude I dont know if its you who mentioned law and sports, altho its true nobody allows raging people, that also happens but its truly rare.. The reality of rules arent like in the book.. sometimes the victims willingly walk 2 miles just to see the offenders and try to piss them off., ive seen many cases like that, if you challenge negative behavior, youre the one who is reaponsible for what you got told. So you calling me negative cannot be judged because I was the one who got involved with you in the first place. Think what you wanna think, but Ill say this with 200% confidence that you cannot comprehend what my mind is. All the stuff here is just a stupid example that is actually just 1%. > Then you have a very narrow view on life at that age already. I'll repeat it again - the standard level of behaviour (e.g. not insulting people or using slurs), is basically expected everywhere. Being on the internet doesn't remove that standard. Sure you can go ahead and drop below it, but expect to face consequences by communities that want to uphold a basic level of morality. Businesses would hold that standard slightly higher, but in the case of the word we're talking about, I can guarentee you that if you started hurling it as abuse in a bar, restaurant, shop or anywhere in general society really, you'd be asked to leave. Why should that be any different here? I wont leave from work nor from a shop or restaurant, if you decided to get involved with me and speak to me about personal matters and piss me ofd, youre also going to get blamed. If you said something to me in a shop i have every right to tell you "shut up".. and ive done it. If you decide to sit with me in a restaurant and have a talk and i dont like you i can call you whatever i want and it will be fine as long as it doesnt bother other customers, you are free to leave or talk back. I just dont think gaming should be compared to real life activities. Toxic people dont ruin games, the ones who get offended ruin them. They got the option to mute.. I personally used to mute all in alot of games, because i want to focus in gaming. but im fine with people who come to talk, its the beauty of the sport. If i can deal with them then I am a true winner. But i guess some people are so horrible that they demand people to shut up? pathetic.
: >Favouritsm exists thats a fact. Youre the one who favours LGBT group more than heteros, youre more likely to chose lgbt than a hetero based on your personal view isnt it?! What? this sentence makes no sense? I don't even take sexual orientation into consideration for anything unless we're talking about my dating pool. Then yes, I'm obviously going to prefer one party. Funnily enough, I have more straight friends than I do LGBT, so no there's really no preference here. >Dont act like you dont favour LGBT group, if the power was on someone like u, he would jail everyone who said the f word(and u would have a civil war on your hand). I'm part of it, but I don't push any agenda past what is fair. Would I jail someone for use of that word? No. I would attempt to educate them on why the use of that word isn't OK. Jailing is something that isn't fair and way over the top. So that's a mighty huge assumption you've made there. >The job giver would most likely hire a person from that group, or hire a person based on his liking. You shouldnt generalise and talk just becaude u watched utube.. reality is far more different than you expect. No, as someone who literally hired people for a living for a while, hiring was based purely on experience and how the canidate went in an interview. Not to mention it is _**highly illegal to even ask someone their orientation in a business interaction**_, which would incur ridiculous fines if you were to do so, or if you hired someone purely on that basis (not to mention the latter would be bad business practice and detrimental to the company.) Reality is that people deserve to not be insulted for being LGBT. It's really not that hard to grasp. >When I say disgusting i dont mean it as offence, i mean it literally. Like if someone showed u how they eat shit? Thats how i feel when i see gay couple. This comparison is incredulously homophobic. The two aren't even comparable. Why do you feel that way is probably the better question? Is this one of those cases where it's fine for women for you, but the minute men do it its an issue? Regardless of the fact that homosexuality is completely natural, has been around since the Greek and Roman empires, and was literally just modern religion that installed this whole "it's an abomination" nonsense. On top of that, if you're immediately judging someone for something like that... I have serious concerns for you. Prejudices such as this will only hinder you in life. I'd highly recommend reviewing your stance here. >Plus there are equal rights. When 1 thing isnt equal for a woman there are things that arent equal to men too.. you have 0 idea. But there aren't. There are still countries where you can be executed for being LGBT. Marriage has only just become available in a fair few countries, but definitely not all. Comparing it to another minority isn't really valid either. Each minority has it's problems, but saying one shouldn't be represented because another is having issues is beyond counter-productive. _______________________________________ This all detracts from the point that your stance on using a word that's derogatory towards a certain group of people and literally used to target and alienate them is, in your opinion, ok to use just because YOU don't like it. Your rights end when they start to infringe on someone elses, and my right to not be attacked for simply existing is, as the vast majority of people would agree, more important than your right to use a word that you have no business using.
I dont care how offended you or anyone else gets, I was a bad player once too, I got glamed, but I pressed mute. I didnt take it seriously. It may or may not ruin the game. But let the better team who handles it win. For me if you try to get rid of toxicity your killing another competitive part of the game, which is why i quit at the end of s7. The better players care for their plays, they dont care what anyone else say.. I have flamed like hell and still won the games, i havent flamed at all and ive lost games, so the theory that flaming ruins the game isnt true. The fact that theres a crybaby that will report me for every edgy thing i say doesnt make it fun. It was way more fun when i was the one with the most dmg and these jealous no skills bastards complaining on the boards because they arent good and everyone flame them. I guess 5 years later they finally got a system that bans, and league is not as nearly popular as it was. I guess Riot now ade having headaches of people constantly complaining everyday. LOL.. serves them right. Plus i am a person who had 2000 honors. I am friendly as long as you dont push a certain agenda, you can say im an a-hole, you have everyright.. unlike you i dont get offended! Or take things personal, nothing you say here will make me report you. Say Kiss your self if you want i still dont care. Fact is you dont even deserve my presence nor my opinion.. plus i am 22 years old i know how business works ive worked before. But playing games isnt work, at work it doesnt affect me when someone leaves, if someone made people lose money on purpose there would be harsher consequences than just "flame" and if u had business u should know what im speaking about. So i dont think we should make comparissons. Actions have bigger impact than words. + you can avoid words.. the only not equal thing here is that i give you plenty of reason and options and you dont give me a single option, i have to mind you and care for your feelings?! Get a life. People have to get banned? The game is dead compared to what it was in 2015!! All the new players are toxic and they quit as soon as they get banned, they quit as soon as they see how butthurt is this community. I dare a rioter to show me the stats from 2015, to 2018.. i dont want to see new unique accounts, i want to see the rate they played and the rate of playing in 2015. This is why they launched their adds at 2k17.. And its getting worse and worse. Not only they ban their players, they ruin the game too. Believe what u want, but know 1 thing! I am fine without leage and I will never agree with you.
: No, it's really not. If it was just me who doesn't like it, then it wouldn't be on an instant ban list. I'm also going to take a stab in the dark and assume you're not a minority, nor have you been on the receiving end of hate or abuse based on existing. I can assure you it's not fun. By stating ~~words~~ slurs like this are fine to use, you're only contributing to discrimination.
The minority u speak of alwayw think they are a special case. We dont share the fact that we like women. Personal life is a personal life. The moment u decide to victimise urself and get special rights and demand me to like you, thats when u lose my respect.i dont give a %%%% if theres billions not agreeing with me I like what i like. As long as im not hurting anyone i aint doing something wrong.
Loxtos (EUW)
: 2 weeks banned for this?
This community cant handle flame.. youll get banned if u speak more like that.
: >Loxtos: nice ss %%% & >Loxtos: glad we got the same screem now %%% I'm guessing the censored word is a particular homophobic slur beginning with F? If so, then yes. This triggers an instant 14-day ban as it's one of the worst words you can use. You need to remove that word from your vocabulary. It's never ok to say it. EDIT: Not to mention the rest of your logs are relatively toxic anyway.
Its perfectly fine to say it. Its just you who doesnt like it.
: >I personally dont believe that someone would troll just because he cant chat. "i don't believe that this happens, therefore it doesn't happen" is not how reality works :)
So youre saying in all 15 chat restricted games someone ints and trolls all these games?? Are you for real? Find me 1 person who trolls or ints. I will believe you.. maybe they would troll 1 game because of anger. But eventually they would come on terms with it. Im not sure whats your reality tho.
: I genuinely feel like I was permabanned for the wrongly
I dont agree with banning people for chat but you should seriously just mute and play to improve.. being better means u will win more and having more fun performing tricks. Tilting and giving up and not playing the game is a reason to be banned for.. what people say isnt excuse to give up.
Montazuma (EUW)
: I'm almost giving up on you mate. I play in a controlled manor regardless of role (adc, support, mid or even top occasionally), cs > kill, but when 1-2 player on your side dies a %%%%load of times pre lvl 6, it's only a matter of time before enemy players collaps on you. I don't sit my ass on the nexus because the enemy team is fed, because that doesn't change the route the enemy team has towards a win. I get that you (and a shitload of other players in this game) think that kda is the be-all-end--all stat, and that by looking at that on opgg, you have the facts laid out before you to make a conclusion. I can also say that it isn't always on my side this happens, on ocassions it's the enemy players who die 5 times inside of 5min before going afk resulting in the same outcome as in a ton of my games. But guess what since this entire thread bares on it, it makes for some piss poor and pathetic match making resulting in some even worse quality games. Maybe you like so many others in this game just shrug your shoulders and go 'free win = great' when you see this on the enemy side, I don't.., and maybe you even do the same when it's on your side, though I highly doubt it. So what are the solutions to the above? Riot could outright ban players permanentely if they do this after already being warned about leaving games the first time, Riot could outright ban players for intentionally suiciding (But neither happens). They could also start imcorporating game statistics into match making to create more quality games.
I aint looking at kda.. im looking at you dmgs stop excusing yourself. Kda means nothing to me. Ive literally won a game with 1/13 draven and 1/6 lulu for 10 minutes. I know what im talking about. Some games are lost. But you learn from these games to be a naughty and a hungry player for plays. If not ur gonna stay stuck. You know what I do? I mute all chat and always have pressure and force people to come. In bronze and silver 3 ppp come for me and most of the times they get outplayed. I never tilt. I dont give a **** for anyone else in my team i do my own thing. If it means playing around them to win ill do that. You just cant carry.
πET (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Murderius,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=nEong6YT,comment-id=00020000000000000000,timestamp=2018-05-08T22:23:02.605+0000) > > Id care less lol. > > Going overboard means that he really tried to play and couldnt win.. > > Id much rather have him than the 20% winrate crybaby. Yes, me too, if that would actually be true, but after he carried me he can still get hit by the ban hammer if he's talking that way.
That may be but i wont report.. i usually report the bad players. My chat is always muted so if i see someone not paying attention and playing horrible they will get reported lol.
: You kinda missed the topic. I didn't say anything about bad scores and i didn't ask for the heroes saying "well but I don´t do that".. I mean of course there are players that dont usually beg for reports, I am talking about those who do. And always muting everyone isn´t the great solution, as the community should just learn that playing bad neither losing a game is reportable.
I report on my judgement. Chances are he'll lose it,flame a bit and get punished lol. I report bad players regardless. They think thats an excuse for them to not try do anything and not pay attention to map 90% of the time. I know the difference between a person whos trying and a person whos there to do whatever he wants.
πET (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Murderius,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=nEong6YT,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2018-05-08T22:14:17.464+0000) > > Idk just tired of bad players and all their whining cause they bad and blame the game and the players lol. > > But thats just my opinion. Don't get me wrong, I'm sick of that too, but this player clearly went overboard. You gotta stay reasonable. When someone goes too far they really should be punished.
Id care less lol. Going overboard means that he really tried to play and couldnt win.. Id much rather have him than the 20% winrate crybaby.
Atlas (EUNE)
: People be like
"Insert sad classical music" Best wishes.
πET (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Murderius,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=nEong6YT,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-05-08T21:54:36.669+0000) > > I like flamers they are right most of the time.. i hope he gets away lol. LOL! WTF is wrong with you?
Idk just tired of bad players and all their whining cause they bad and blame the game and the players lol. But thats just my opinion.
: RIOT !!! This guy better get banned !
I like flamers they are right most of the time.. i hope he gets away lol.
: What do you call a dead Draven?
: im sorry dont hate me {{sticker:sg-janna}}
Lol u got it {{champion:26}}
: so if you go 0/10 you just mute but if your top goes 0/10 you report mmm nice logic you got there
In 1000 games maybe me going 0/10 will happen once lol. Plus im still better than the bad players even with a bad score. I got a draven who went 1/13 but he was extremely helpful.. always there to hit towers always there to back me up. So i didnt report. Cause maybe he %%%%ed up like a bonobo but he is still a good player. So score is irrevelant to my logic. You guess wrong.
: Report Begging
I will still report the bad player(if he failed super easy situations or didnt follow or wasnt aware of anything) but i wont say anything in chat lol.. As for those who blame i report them depending on context. If he says what i think i wont. If he is babycrying and blaming someone else cus hes bad i wont say anything and report. I dont get blamed. Even if i did id just mute and woulsnt give a f.
: I was banned ! I changed ! Bang LOL Community !
Not true.. / mute all is the best to to climb. I dont agree with you. Any community who comes in my game to open chat and write whatever topic is gonna be muted by me.. I aint there to listen, I am there to play the game and enjoy and win. If i wanna talk i will talk with someone about strategy and champs in my profile friendlist. Or discuss it here. 80% of the people have no idea how much better this game is when u focus on yourself.
DSANIC (EUW)
: mechanics vs mentalit
Mentality and mechanical skill go hand in hand. Those that are truly affected by illness probably cant even click or read.. Depression isnt an illness its an excuse. > even stop playing X champions just because they got 1 or 2 bad games (my case sometimes xd) Those are instincts, a gift given to you to make you function better. So you make a good choice. Its isnt always lose/win scenario you forgot the **fun** component. I facepalm so hard.. its like your media makes you lose your value and confidence and yet you still chose to believe in it.
: At this point, I'm half convinced the game is trying to drive me insane
1.Chose a champ that you have fun with. 2.Master that champion.(items combos etc) 3.Killing 1 vs 1 getting fb does not mean a win. Counter picks dont matter since u can always be useful to ur team in some otherway. Mages offer poke and cc during fights so even if u kill them 3 times in laningh phase they can still %%%% ur team. 4.Push towers? Help your team push towers? 5.Patience and strong nerves(which seems like you lack) 6.You are paranoid. 7.400 farm on quin kinda useless cause she is assasin instead of farming u could go gank somewhere. Hide in bushes kill jungle. 8.You need a brain. Its not like you think (I win 1 vs 1 have more farm and win or counter picks or op meta champs) Nope its about the advantage u got there and what you can do with that advantage. You dont just magically win. Please if u cant handle getting stomped and u get mad and cant learn i dont think this game is for u then.
Ökami (EUNE)
: Did League of Legends really has come to this level of flame?
Big %%%%in deal lol. Just quit and start next game. Riot is doing a great job.. this system makes people angrier. Because u cant flame bad/trollers/afk players in game like u did before lol.
Montazuma (EUW)
: If you want to use opgg as your source of information when trying to be precise in your replies, I suggest you stop replying entirely. In the last 24 hours I've already described 5 of my games where I can say without any uncertainty, that I didn't have any way to be impactful, why?- because no matter how great you think you are, when team mates open with 5 deaths inside of 5min, it's all she wrote.
So your saying in every game someone gives up/opens intentionally? Is that so? I mean if i look at ur mh.. you are the one who tilts and opens. Yourr losing alot. Youre like eating the same food that makes you vommit lol. Muteall, dont speak, dont rely on anyone. Its that simple. Treat them like bots. Bots sometimes follow sometimes dont. But also ping just in case.
Rioter Comments
Montazuma (EUW)
: I did that at the start going into Gold 2 promo which then resulted in a near back-to-back losing streak of 43 games with something like 6 of those won, playing exclusively Talon, Anivia and Xayah, it's not the be-all-end-all that people seem to be delusional about, because you are in fact whether you want to admit it or not, depending on 4 other players on your team. Which leads in my point all along.
You did that but with the expectations of **depending on 4 other players on your team.** If you never thought about your team and knew the fact that you shouldnt play when frustrated or angry at the previous game you wouldve climbed. You spam ranked games because your angry and expect to have the perfect team everygame while you, yourself arent perfect and tilted af.. Look at your last 24 hours 80% of them are losses.. and why? Cause you mad that you cant carry at all. The last game you won, Kennen carried ur ass. Your jungle had more dmg and ur support too. You know how my match history looked like in silver? Out of 20 games in atleast 14 I had the most dmg dealt. **I warned you and told u to prepare yourself to not use excuses** And this is vital if you wanna climb. You get over yourself. You focus solely **ON YOUR GAME** 1 Player can make a big difference. You just arent impactful. 57% 237W182L 2.12:1 168.1 62% 38W23L2.18:1 178.5 60% 78W51L 1.89:1 163.6 How do I have good win rates on 3 accounts? Because i do something better than you and that is **relying on myself** I never duo.
Montazuma (EUW)
: My purpose in the game is to play to A) Advance (without a ranked or ladder system I wouldn't even look at this game), and B) enjoy myself while climbing. Even if my answers above was something entirely different and random, it does not however change the fact that there is something fundamentally broken about Match making currently. I can update my initial post with 5 games lost for the exact same reasons as I gave in my post, 5 games before deranking for the N'th time. If the purpose of this game is to beat the system, then I'll lay down flat and admit this game isn't for me, because it's currently being passed off as a team game, something it most definitely isn't on any level. Even if we try to invent things that are beyond Riots control such as player behavior and cherry pick players afking and flaming out of the equation, the players I am being matched with every time when entering Silver 1, are beyond hopeless. Even while dipping down into Silver 4, it was rare to see players enter their respective lanes and then almost instantly start a fight and lose, only to repeat it multiple times, as if the outcome would somehow be different after falling behind. That said I think I've repeated myself enough, if not than feel free to actually read my original post and then skip down to the line below afterwards. Now, I honestly don't care if you alone make up the top 0.01%, unless you can muster some form of explanation as to why this scenario playes out to the dot, every single time.
prepare your mind to not prepare excuses, I will tell you exactly how to climb and if u dont climb in 2-4 weeks then u didnt do it right. 1: You suck at most melee champions that require timing and skills and knowledge. 90% of your melee champs are below 50% win rate. 2: You need to pick 3 champions that **you like playing** and spam few normals until you get the feel to them. You need 1 main role. 3: **very important** Don'ts - Never get angry, Never tilt, Never blame(even in your mind), **dont get frustrated(no matter the situation)**, **dont carry your frustratiom to the next game(you lose a game and you never ever think about that game and who did what and blabla)**. 4.**important** - Your match history is a chinese alphabeth. Chose a lane your good at. 5. If you see someone writing like a clown you ignore and mute him(even if he is not offensive). Dont try to force someone, you cant. Even if ur challenger they will never listen. You communicate with pings only!
: > You try to make assumptions of how i dont play her to the required standard I only tell you how limited you are. You make personal remarks I make personal remarks. You would get the same answer in real life and you provocated it. Because you cant make difference.. its 1 thing to say what you think about a champion its another to attack me personally.. It’s not attacking you personally... it’s making an observation. Your complaining that a champion is too difficult, that’s litterally all you’ve been saying... you want a champion to go back to being mindless because your struggling to play her and from the loooks of things you have been since her rework when she was stronger than before... that’s why I’ve said what I said, you’ve given up and tried to make the game worse just so you can play 1 champion. > Ive disproved and proved you that her q and ap nida wasnt the only thing played.. maybe in low elo where u currently at. No you haven’t... you’ve proved nothing... in contrary I’ve acknowledged that as top nidalee was a thing, I’ve acknowledged that support nidalee was an extremly toxic thing that riot wanted to get rid of, but what you’ve not acknowledged is that top nidalee got stronger, support nidalee is just healthier, and jungle nidalee became a thing... so she is more diverse because it’s preserved her old play styles and added new ones. > xerath q and abilities have near range and you dont call them mindless? They also scale better. They have better width. Xerath also is a delayed skill shot and has a channel time... making it easy to dodge... it has counter play. That’s the thing nidalee severely lacked she litterally spammed Q and got kills that way. > She isnt entertaiming to you. Lol cause you prolly couldnt play her then and cant now. I never wanted to play her... pressing Q the entire time isn’t very stimulating if I wanted that I’d play karthus, at least he had more than just a Q. And I can play nidalee... don’t do it often usually only in ARAM but the times that I have chosen nidalee I have done well with her... I’m no where near the best and I didn’t even bother attempting jungle nidalee, but I’m at least passable enough to get results. > Toxic/unfair because you couldnt use it and win 0 games with her and the rest could. You really don’t know the meaning of toxic do you... a toxic champion has nothing to do with playing as them, it’s playimg against them which makes them toxic and unhealthy... > its my right to think whatever i want and want whatever i want. > She was better, more fun, more played. And yet everyone is disagreeing with you and everyone doesn’t want her back... kinda telling as to which one of us is right. You have a right to think what you want, but a responsibility to not present that as fact and to be open to the idea that you are wrong... you think everyone will automatically agree with you and they haven’t...
They didnt preserve anything lol. They put some shitty scalings. Made her early game focused. Added ad ratios and nerfed her cougar form ratios too. This isnt made up.. her low % rate has been there for whole season and its just a joke.
: Nidalee is a siege mage... anyone can see that. Nidalee has two forms, human and cat. Human form is a siege mage, cat form is an assassin. While she is in human form her goals and abilities are that of a siege mage, poke, restrict movement, don’t get poked down (heal), when the siege gets broken she can then turn assassin and kill. Refusal to utilise either part of her kit effectively is probably why your not doing so well with her, she is of two classes and it’s your job to use the right one at the right time
> Refusal to utilise either part of her kit effectively is probably why your not doing so well with her, I dont even play her. I did before and i did prolly better than you. She is a jungler and she sucks as a mid laner now. Maybe more like support. Her e gives atack speed buff. None of her abilities are strong enough to classify as a mage. She can be played as a weak mage support or tank or ad or mix. She could do all that before rework and better. Her flat scalings made her scale better into the late. On cougar form too. Especially the scaling on cougar also sucks. Its only good for back up jungle champion. But aint enougj to really call her assasin. Only good when ahead
: Then why the hell are you here. If you don’t play a champion because you don’t find them fun then frankly don’t try to insult others because they don’t find a champion fun and do the same. Don’t be hypocritical
Im only saying the truth lol. She is barely played, Sucks for me and for a lot of others. I got much more vible picks in every lane than Nidalee I can possibly pull her off and ive done it alot after her rework but her charm and fun isnt there. Personally she was ruined.
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