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Sashii (EUNE)
: Because most adc's would prefer an Essence Reaver + Bloodthirster for the huge sustain before I.E.
Well I guess but that doesn't answer the question, I mean what's changed from the previous season? Talking about Draven, the champion is pretty much the same but before: IE - BT, now Youmuu's, swifties and BT/Mercurial. Why has it changed? They could've gotten Essence Reaver and BT in season 5, it gave even more sustain that now, since ER had lifesteal and BT had more lifesteal. What's changed? Is it about recall timings, build path or what?
: New idea, hope u read it ! :3
You can start thinking about what you want to get in the 6 seconds you're recalling and you can prepare a set of items before the game starts, so that you have all the items you may want to get in one page. Just go in your profile and click the button on the right, I don't know the exact English for it, sorry :/
: Seasons come seasons go, but riven stays broken op .
I don't think she's broken, she's just really good at punishing mistakes, but if you can't play her and you lose lane you can be pretty useless with her. She's one of those champions that can snowball really hard off a simple mistake, which is why people call her "op", without realising how hard she is to play. Of course if you are fed she doesn't need to be good to kill you, stats suffice, but otherwise she requires a lot of mechanical skill. Think of a champion like Mundo or Maokai: nobody would call those op, but they are much easier to play than Riven. As long as you don't die early to her, you don't make mistakes, she'll fall off in most matchups if she doesn't get kills. And the build you're talking about, which involves BT, Cleaver, Spirit Visage, Sterak's etc. etc. may be op as you say, but it's really goddamn expensive and you can't get that unless you're really fed, otherwise you won't do dmg early on.
Rioter Comments
: 1. If you are actually better than your teammates, you WILL climb. You may say "I'm not good enough to carry my team single-handedly". Thing is, you just need to win a bit more than half of your games to climb. And if Riot matches you with bad players, think it like this: there's 4 bad players on your team and 5 on the other. 2. Not convinced yet? Get eloboosted. But wait, if you can't possibly do any better, how come somebody else can? Are they aliens or what? 3. The right question should be, how else can I improve? And my answer would be to pick a champion you are comfortable with, an easy and broken one if possible, and spam it. Try to die less, I see you are dying a lot. Play safe, I know it's boring, but you should do that. I personally would suggest Malzahar since you like playing midlane. If Kata roams you can push and make her lose a ton of cs, even if she gets a couple kills botlane she's gonna be useless later on because of your ultimate, given that you farmed enough to get some items. I know Fiora is pretty broken atm, but you are not always gonna get a Fiora on the enemy team. And if that's the case, it doesn't mean you can't play around that. Try to ban her when you can. Don't think I don't get what you mean when you say your team is bad. I've been there, but I managed to get to G3 on my main this far. I know It's not high and there's not much difference from Silver 5, trust me, but there's nothing you can do to get a better team. You can only focus on yourself and that's what you should do, you can always improve.
Also, get coached if you really care about it. You can get free coaching on this website, try it out. [http://www.lol-coaching.com/](http://www.lol-coaching.com/)
SacredLie (EUNE)
: How to climb divisions in this situation
1. If you are actually better than your teammates, you WILL climb. You may say "I'm not good enough to carry my team single-handedly". Thing is, you just need to win a bit more than half of your games to climb. And if Riot matches you with bad players, think it like this: there's 4 bad players on your team and 5 on the other. 2. Not convinced yet? Get eloboosted. But wait, if you can't possibly do any better, how come somebody else can? Are they aliens or what? 3. The right question should be, how else can I improve? And my answer would be to pick a champion you are comfortable with, an easy and broken one if possible, and spam it. Try to die less, I see you are dying a lot. Play safe, I know it's boring, but you should do that. I personally would suggest Malzahar since you like playing midlane. If Kata roams you can push and make her lose a ton of cs, even if she gets a couple kills botlane she's gonna be useless later on because of your ultimate, given that you farmed enough to get some items. I know Fiora is pretty broken atm, but you are not always gonna get a Fiora on the enemy team. And if that's the case, it doesn't mean you can't play around that. Try to ban her when you can. Don't think I don't get what you mean when you say your team is bad. I've been there, but I managed to get to G3 on my main this far. I know It's not high and there's not much difference from Silver 5, trust me, but there's nothing you can do to get a better team. You can only focus on yourself and that's what you should do, you can always improve.
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: I feel the pain. Used to play Nasus versus Heimendinger at top lane. That was a nightmare. I was farming safely at tower for a long time, it was not fun, but that's all I could do. Eventually I didn't miss a lot of creeps and then ended up killing him 5 times. However, I still lost the game, cause they had a very fed yasuo and lucian, which could take me down easily, but that's a different story. What I'm trying to say is, you can't do anything, besides trying to farm safe, and not missing a lot of creeps, ask jungler for ganks, gank bot lane or top, so eventually you can get some assists or even kills, and wait till late game, that's the part where assassin's shine. Akali ftw <3
That's what I do most of the times, the problem is that playing an assassin and having a impact on the early game can really make the other team surr at 20, if you get what I mean. A LeBlanc with 2 kills in early will totally shut down bot and maybe top and jungle too, or at least have a great impact. On the other hand, in late game, unless the enemy makes a mistake you won't probably be able to kill anyone in a teamfight as LeBlanc. When you play LeBlanc, either you win your lane and snowball, or you are not really useful later on. You can't push effectively, you excel in 2vs2 situations or 3vs3, there is not really that much you can do in late game, when people tend to group and start teamfights.
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: That's not true, there's always a window where you have the upper hand, in every matchup, or at least a window where it's even. Katarina vs LeBlanc for example has an hard time early game but once she gets abyssal she can kill LeBlanc or push her out of lane at least. After that, in lategame, a 6 item Kata can oneshot LeBlanc before she even has time to react, it's all about skill. Even if you use your W as Leblanc to escape Kata's ult it won't save you if she manages to jump on you. And Katarina has a better teamfight when she can land a good ult and the tank can protect her from LB.
Vs Malzahar for example I had the advantage pre-6, and he knew that so he played super safe.
: {{summoner:1}} *counter* {{summoner:1}} avoid lb against malzahar at all cost. a simple tower dive w and he suppresses you and you die lol. you can't do nothing… and the game is healthy this way. like katarina can't do nothing against lb. so what? it's a counter!
That's not true, there's always a window where you have the upper hand, in every matchup, or at least a window where it's even. Katarina vs LeBlanc for example has an hard time early game but once she gets abyssal she can kill LeBlanc or push her out of lane at least. After that, in lategame, a 6 item Kata can oneshot LeBlanc before she even has time to react, it's all about skill. Even if you use your W as Leblanc to escape Kata's ult it won't save you if she manages to jump on you. And Katarina has a better teamfight when she can land a good ult and the tank can protect her from LB.
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: I have read the guide and it states that Rabadon is not a useful object on Teemo, since you are running a full penetration build. But, since Lich Bane is included in the build, I have always thought that magic penetration and Lich Bane were really strong only if there was some flat AP behind to support them. That's why you always take both, I thought. Katarina and Elise, for example, scale well off penetration since they have a high base damage, but void liandry's and shoes are just 3 items in your build. You are, after all, an AP caster, so AP should be in order. You are swapping a Rabadon and Zhonya with a Frozen Mallet (which doesn't give you much in term of damage) and a Nashor's Tooth, which still is strong if you have some ap behind it. You have a strong base damage, yes, but I think that a Zhonya at least, if not a Rabadon, should be considered. And I still think that Runaan's can be useful when you play vs a team with many melees. I don't know, you do maximise your damage from the mushrooms, but you are totally forgetting your autoattacks I think. Let me know what you think about it.
Since Runaan's doesn't seem to be a good item overall, what about Wit's End??
: I know that playing a oneshot champ is easier than one with sustained damage and I know that Runaan's Hurricane requires perfect positioning and mechanics, but Runaan's Hurricane is amazing on him, and I think that with some practice it can really be worth it.
I have read the guide and it states that Rabadon is not a useful object on Teemo, since you are running a full penetration build. But, since Lich Bane is included in the build, I have always thought that magic penetration and Lich Bane were really strong only if there was some flat AP behind to support them. That's why you always take both, I thought. Katarina and Elise, for example, scale well off penetration since they have a high base damage, but void liandry's and shoes are just 3 items in your build. You are, after all, an AP caster, so AP should be in order. You are swapping a Rabadon and Zhonya with a Frozen Mallet (which doesn't give you much in term of damage) and a Nashor's Tooth, which still is strong if you have some ap behind it. You have a strong base damage, yes, but I think that a Zhonya at least, if not a Rabadon, should be considered. And I still think that Runaan's can be useful when you play vs a team with many melees. I don't know, you do maximise your damage from the mushrooms, but you are totally forgetting your autoattacks I think. Let me know what you think about it.
: If you build AP teemo, unless you are a pro at kiting, don't buy any items that require AA's to deal dmg ( like bork, nashor's, runnaan's...) since you will be exposed. Better build Magic pen or pure AP. The best guide i saw until now is: http://www.lolking.net/guides/276950
I know that playing a oneshot champ is easier than one with sustained damage and I know that Runaan's Hurricane requires perfect positioning and mechanics, but Runaan's Hurricane is amazing on him, and I think that with some practice it can really be worth it.
: How do you deal with LB?
I play Silver so I may not be the best one, but I consider my main to be LeBlanc. I have more than 200 games with her so I know how to win and "lose" my lane. LeBlanc is an assassin, so, especially if she wins her lane, she will roam and get kills everywhere. Once a LeBlanc has 20 stacks mejai, or she is that ahead, she can pretty much carry the game if she is skilled. Let's talk step by step though. EARLY GAME - LANING PHASE As opposed to what most people think, LeBlanc is not so OP. She has a specific damage output and it's your duty as a midlaner to know that damage output. As soon as she gets two (try to abuse her level one if you can because her dmg will be significantly low) she will start using her Q and W combo to harass, dealing a crapload of damage. To counter this, before the game, make sure to run flat magic resistance blues and even seals (yellows) if you know you are going to play vs a LeBlanc. Before she gets to level 6, her damage output is not really vast. She will have her Q which she will try to proc with her E or W. You need to dodge the chain, you can do that simply by standing between or behind minions. If she wants to proc the Q with E she will be forced to use her W as a gapcloser, thus not damaging you with that skill. Try to avoid being hit by her W. Most important thing, remember that you are probably stronger than her before 6, especially if you counterpicked her. When she uses her skills on you, she will have to get close, even if for a second. Once you took the damage, DO NOT GO BACK. Her W early on is on a high cooldown, around 15 seconds. Use this window to harass her, because you will win the trade. You need to make use of this windows if you want to trade with her. There is not specific champs, except for Galio I guess, that counter her, because LeBlanc will not spend much of her time in midlane. Some champs though that can give her a hard time in lane (if you can play them) are Modekaiser, Galio and Syndra. This is because outtrading her with these is quite easier than with others. Especially if you are not playing one of these champs, remember not to do stupid mistakes and don't feed her early. With many champs the matchup is quite even and not impossible if you can play them, don't forget that. Example: As Yasuo, you know that she will try to Q + W once you get a minion if she has her W up. As soon as you see her changing position towards you, use your wall to block her Q, reducing vastly her damage output. She will W anyway, even without Q, throw a Q in front of you to even the trade. You can also try to trade yourself, since your wall (if used correctly) block most of her kit. Get an Hexdrinker and Merc Threads asap, even before Statikk if the lane is getting hard. MIDGAME At this point LeBlanc will be level 6 and she will start roaming at the first occasion. There are several things you can and have to do: - Call SS and make sure to ward the river so that botlane has more chances to see her coming - Constantly shove the lane, you can also get the jungler to help you. This way she will probably lost cs under tower (while you can also harass her at the same time if your champ allows it). Be really careful though of the enemy jungler showing up, because a kill to her at this point can start the snowball. - Build health and magic resistance (Athene's Graal, Abyssal Scepter, Rylai's Crystal Scepter, Merc Threads, Maw of Malmortius/Hexdrinker). Even if you wouldn't build these items usually consider them vs LeBlanc, they are really effective. Unless she lands her chain on you (which you have to avoid at all costs), once she hits her combo she won't have much damage left and you will still have a pretty fair amount of health, enough to trade back. - If she starts roaming, push her tower hard, this will cause her to lose all her pressure on mid. If she doesn't kill anyone, she will lose farm and a tower for nothing, while you will be allowed to roam more easily without her tower up. - Even if you get her tower, this won't probably stop her from roaming. If your team warded and played safe, you should have a pretty nice cs advantage and she shouldn't have many kills and you can start to follow her, maybe with the help of your jungler, or you can be the first to roam. With some champs is advisable to follow her early, others (like Malzahar) are better at pushing the lane and pressuring the tower. - She will try to put pressure on all lanes, your work will be to deny her pressure by warding, following her and taking her tower. - If she gets an early Mejai's, be extra careful, every kill will make her significantly stronger. LATEGAME At this point, if she didn't snowball hard early game, assuming you didn't manage to shut her down completely, she should have enough damage to oneshot the carries. The laws are the same, especially if you are support: ward. If she manages to get you off guard, don't even try to escape unless you are sure you can. Try to fight back and outplay her once she lands her combo or she misses it. A Blitzcrank grab + knockup and silence can surprise her and the adc should be able to burst her down. In teamfights, ward your back, don't facecheck in bushes. When it comes to teamfights, she will try to surprise your adc from behind or from the side. Ward to make sure that doesn't happen and be ready to use all the cc you have to protect your adcarry. You can't get her, but if she wants to get you and you are in position, she will have to expose, leaving you a very short window to stun her and burst her. Buying Banshee's Veil is really effective against her. As you suggested with Cho'Gath, LeBlanc is really vulnerable to strong which can keep her from recalling her W. There's probably a lot more things to say, I'm just a silver player but these are some things I think I could tell you. I hope I was of some help ^^
Rioter Comments
: This makes sense. But I still think there is more to it. At least now we have two points: 1. I play different champions I am not used to. 2. People in silver play different. I really still think there is something missing. When the enemy kills me I have a strong, very strong feeling of ''I could have avoided that or turn it into a win, but for some reason I get killed''.
Maybe you play vs less experienced players and you are more relaxed because of that, and you make stupid mistakes.
Shiroe x (EUW)
: i hate hourglass , i think its a itme that gets you killed more than it dose save you, so i will not buy that item. there is no wrong or right build on a champion , is certain build works like the ones i do then it works if it dosen't work then i will re think it and try a new build . i love torment on veigar and i will contuine to build because I think it has good poke and burst damage . you tellign me not to build stuff sorry but i think your a meta build kinda guy which isnt bad but its not me . i build weird builds and guess what it works. 2 deathcaps is not useless again i dont care about the passive , if i did , i wouldn't build them. bu thanks for the other advice on item though liek the ryai's n o idea why i never though of building that before. eh you learn new stuff everyday.
Well, experimenting new build is always good. I agree about the Rabadon's with Wurger though, a Hourglass is like another Rabadon with 50 bonus armor, gives you the exact same dmg (you can't argue this, it's basic maths). Yes you can forget about the passive, just move the object in the last slot which you don't usually use, but I think that you should need to learn when to use the passive. It is really useful in many situations, for example for baiting. You know the enemy is there, you bait them into jumping you and then you activate zhonya and your team does them an ambush. It is good when the enemy decided to tower dive you, or vs champions like Zed, Vladimir, Karthus, Fizz. You can negate most of their damage. If you see Fizz throwing you his ult, trust me you don't wanna answer back in that moment unless you can oneshot him just with your ult xD Not only you will negate the damage from his shark, you could be lucky and negate the damage from his E too, at which point you can easily kill him without taking much damage. Or Karthus decides to use his ultimate and you are at a low health, you can Zhonya. Ofc if 5 enemies are running at you and there is no tower nearby and no allies that can effectively help you, using it will get you killed. It's just a matter of knowing when to use it, but I ensure it's immensely valuable. Many times I was playing as ad carry or ad mid and I wished I had Zhonya's, because the passive is just OP. About Liandry, I've seen people play LeBlanc with 3 Rods of Ages and play Karthus with Liandry, Rod of Ages and Rylai. They are not really smart builds, but if you can play better with that object, why not? As long as it's not ridiculous like two Rabadons ofc, a Liandry on Veigar may not be that strong but if it can keep you alive and make better plays, then buy it :)
: Thank you very much for the detailed explanation, from all the replies i got since yesterday I started using it in my adc role, and my stats were improving: Game 1: Vayne=16/1/8 Game 2: Vayne=30/7/13 Game 3: Vayne=25/3/8 I'm going to carry on playing mainly adc Vayne, until i get out of bronze. Thank you again!
: Please. For Once In Your Solo Lane Life. WARD!
- Tell them you can't gank them because they are too pushed, they will understand that. - Ward for them, as a jungler that's part of your duty. - Countergank They will blame you even if it's their fault, but they're partly right, it's not entirely their fault. A death from a enemy gank can really make the difference, and some more jungle help can really be useful sometimes. You can't always be top of course, but gank if you can, they will play better knowing you are there and got their back.
: Advice for winning ranked games in bronze
TOP LANE - Pick champions who are strong in lane early game (Darius), ganks are usually timed real badly, and basic warding can avoid them. - Pick champions who can push and wave-clear real fast or buy a Ravenous Hydra if you play AD and constantly shove the lane (remember to ward first), they will struggle to keep up with the push, giving you the tower if they wait too much to get to lane after recall. - Play TP. The Teleport combined with the pressure on your lane (2 points above) will allow you to help other lanes and then come back to your lane, giving you a huge map pressure. Don't just use it to come back to your lane. - Go straight for the most fed one in teamfight, the one that deals most damage. If you do it at the right time, they will not know how to react. If you are not fed, protect who is, because that's what most bronzes fail to do. JUNGLE I don't play jungle, but you should pick a champion with strong early ganks (like Shaco) and "babysit" lane after lane, especially the ones that are losing. Don't forget to protect the turrets when your allies can't and to push the lanes if your allies are not there and you have the possibility. And most of all, remember to ward: many people say the support is the one that wards, but you should ward just as much. If the lanes have really poor warding, you could even buy a sightstone to help them out, knowing where the enemy jungler is is always worth the gold for the ward. MID LANE Pick champions who are strong in lane or that need some basic skill to get countered, like Syndra, Katarina, Fizz, Zed, or one you can play really well. LeBlanc is to me the best choice, but everyone has their favorite champ :) Master that champ, win your lane, then go help the other lanes. Bot is probably the safest one since top is usually too tanky for you to burst down easily. Don't forget to ward to prevent your opponent from roaming and to buy pink wards and red trinket to remove their vision in case they warded bottom. Warding their buffs is also good since you can steal them - if you time it well - and get their jungler to fall behind. You can also catch their jungler on really low health, netting you an easy kill. There's plenty of things to say, but that's the basic stuff. Shut down every lane before you even come to teamfighting. When you eventually get to teamfights, go for their carries or deal the most damage you can, they won't probably react fast enough to counter you effectively. Most bronzes focus on themselves, their play, and on killing a specific member of the enemy team, very few think about protecting their carries. Take advantage of that. Also, build situational. If you play as Cassiopeia vs LeBlanc, getting Merc Threads and Rylai's asap, or maybe an Abyssal, will allow you to survive your lane and still be able to roam. BOT LANE I don't play bot lane a lot. If you are support, pick a support with a lot of CC (Leona), this will probably win you the teamfights, since they will all focus one member and the cc allows you to protect that member effectively. You can also pick supports with a lot of burst or poke, like Sona or Annie, and go for a kill lane. Focus on getting your adc ahead and getting bot tower. This will give you dragon control and then you will likely get mid tower, since their adc will be farming botlane. Either way, once you've won your adc the lane or everything is going even and you can't do much about it, go help midlane or even toplane, maybe with the help of your jungler. Also, provide vision, not only of your lane, but also vision of the river and their jungle. If you are playing adc, get better at farming, don't lose trades (if the enemy Zilean comes close to get a bomb on you, be sure to punish him for that bomb, always attack the enemy when they get too close to your minions, because if they answer they will get minion aggro then lose the trade). Also, make sure to follow whenever your jungler ganks or your support decides to engage. Some people do really stupid engages, but if you actually follow them, the enemy adc will still kill them but they are more likely to listen to you the next time they want to engage. And in teamfight, don't forget to focus the nearest target, even if it is a tank. What the enemy team will do is focus you, that's the only thing bronzes are good at: focusing one target, and that's usually the adc. Even if your teammates flame you, focusing the nearest target will keep you alive and allow you to deal more damage overall. If you jump in the middle of 5 and go straight for the carry, you may even manage to kill him, but you will die for sure, and the teamfight could be lost. If you don't kill the carry, it will be lost for sure. So forget about killing the carry, let your teammates do that, and focus the nearest target even if it is a tank. Don't forget to build penetration. I've seen many ad-carries go for Infinity Edge, Statikk and BT right away. Especially if the tank is fed, getting an early Last Whisper is better. Also, sometimes getting Statikk over Phantom Dancer or Youmuu's Ghostblade will allow you to shove the lane better, making it harder for the enemy adc to farm. Be wary of ganks! The key is pressure. Apart from basic champ mechanics, you need to apply pressure, just by pushing or by roaming and ganking, everywhere you play. Hope I was useful and I didn't tell you anything wrong, I am not a high elo player.
Dragonixx (EUW)
: It all depends on the tole you are playing. But overall vaguely aims are: Top: Build Bruiser, stick to ememy carries or peel own carries Jungle: Pretty much same as Top Mid: Burst enemy carries ADC: SURVIVE! Support: Be disruptive is fights, WARD, peel own carries
> [{quoted}](name=Dragoníxx,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=0V9Hgdc0,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-03-07T21:21:32.155+0000) > > It all depends on the tole you are playing. But overall vaguely aims are: > Top: Build Bruiser, stick to ememy carries or peel own carries > Jungle: Pretty much same as Top > Mid: Burst enemy carries > ADC: SURVIVE! > Support: Be disruptive is fights, WARD, peel own carries I think he's right in everything. But I could add that carrying isn't just late game in teamfights. Talking about mid, since that's where I play, you need to roam and ward their jungle, especially if you win your lane and get the tower. You can completely shut down the enemy ad-carry and jungler by stealing the buffs and preventing its ganks. The first is easy, counter-jungling is hard and requires some skill and follow-up from your team, but it's still good to try even if it's unsuccessful. Especially if you are not a really good champ in teamfights, shutting down all the lanes from the beginning of the game will win you the teamfights. Many times I see players going 17/3 over mid, then flaming the team for feeding. When you are ahead and another lane is losing, it's your job to help that lane, and it's your fault if they feed and you don't help them.
: Feel like I can't improve anymore?
There's websites where high elo players offer free coaching, and you can always watch streams and read guides, learn from your mistakes. There's always ways to get better ^^
: Ok I suck with Veigar and you are the god, I shall praise your skills of caging people and predicting their positions after 1.2 seconds, your liandry's torment and double deathcaps build is super effective and if you continue playing him like this you'll be classified as the best Veigar player on lolskill.net End of argument.
Can't even make a valid discussion with this people, they just come here to listen to what they want to.
Shiroe x (EUW)
: i know about the dam passive and i still get 120 ap from two deathcaps , i just persoanlly dont liek the hourglass never have so i dont buy it much. everyone has their own likes n dislike on item . so i will contuine to buy two deathcaps till i find a item i like to build for my last item.
Look, Liandry's torment is not a good item on Veigar, trust me. You build Liandry only in certain situations: - When they have a fed tank stacking a lot of armor and health, because liandry's passive does health% true dmg - When you have really high base damage like Katarina, Zyra, Elise, and you want to boost that damage with the penetration instead of going for flat AP - When you do dmg over time, like Malzahar, Cassiopeia, Katarina, Zyra, that's a useful object because of the passive. - Really nice with poke champions (Karma), still only if it meets one of the points above. I have seen Liandry's built as last item on LeBlanc since the DFG was removed, but people don't buy it because of its insane burst, just because of the health it provides. The penetration is nice too, but I don't like it anyway and I don't buy it. Buying two Rabadon Deathcaps is just ridiculous, I really don't see the point since the passive doesn't stack. As they told you, you could get a Zhonya for a nice passive and some armor. If you don't know what to build as last item, here's a nice build I use a lot on him: Core: Boots, Rabadon, Zhonya, Void Staff Mana: Tear of the goddess (which builds into Archangel, better if late game unless you are losing lane). As 6th item I usually consider a Morellonomicon for the CDR (which you would get earlier in the game anyway), or a Lich Bane if I got CDR boots. When you have that much ap a autoattack can really make a huge difference. Other items I build in some situations are: - Rod of ages (earlier in the game, if you have a really hard lane) - Mejai's Soulstealer (if you are having a hard snowball) - Abyssal scepter (when they have a lot of AP on their team or we do and no-one else buys it) - Guardian Angel / Banshee's Veil (if you're getting focused a lot) - Rylai's Crystal Scepter (build it last if you feel you need that bonus health it provides, slow isn't much useful) There's plenty of items you can build on Veigar, building 2 Rabadon's really is useless, trust me. Anyway remember that Cooldown reduction is really important on Veigar early game, and you will need it as soon as possible. Since you get 15% from blue and masteries, and 7,5% from runes if you're running flat CDR blues, one CDR item is usually enough to get really close to 40%. If you are not planning on building Morellonomicon (or Athene's, though I wouldn't buy it over Morello), get CDR boots, this will allow to farm your Q more, especially since the increased CD. You sacrifice a small early game dmg over a huge power spike late game. Hope I was helpful, have fun playing Veigar ^^
: Why is gold/low platinum easier then silver? I don't get it.
Well I'm just silver, but I think you are just used to a different kind of playstyle. I once played with a diamond Tresh, he missed almost all the hooks for the first 20 minutes of game. Then he started to grab'em all after a couple minutes. When I asked him why, he told me that he was actually expecting people to dodge, and when they didn't that's why he missed the first hooks. It does sound strange what you're telling me, but I think that you probably aren't used to the kind of trading and you need to adjust your playstyle to different situations. To give you another example, I play really often the Katarina - Leblanc matchup. I always win both matchups unless of course they have better roaming, that's because I know how to trade with them. When Leblanc Q's me, I know she's about to use W so I Shunpo on her to negate the damage from her W. Even if she hits her chain, she will lose the trade because of my W passive and because of the fact she won't be maxing her chain. My point is, when I lost vs a LeBlanc, she was a higher elo, and she had a different way of trading that was way more effective. I think you just need to adjust your playstyle, then you'll win easy vs lower elos.
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