: I don't mind punishing people who are leaving on purpose, but the one who started this topic wanted to punish everyone at once, as soon as he left one game. And I dislike that, because you will punish a ton of people, who did nothing wrong and just had bad luck. (sometimes the internet just crashes)
> [{quoted}](name=Gnominator,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=Rwd2AEev,comment-id=00000000000000000001,timestamp=2019-10-16T12:31:34.739+0000) > > I don't mind punishing people who are leaving on purpose, but the one who started this topic wanted to punish everyone at once, as soon as he left one game. And I dislike that, because you will punish a ton of people, who did nothing wrong and just had bad luck. (sometimes the internet just crashes) He is saying punishements must be harder, not really that you have to get punished easely; i think that what he is trying to say is that once someone starts leaving the game too often he should be hard punished and not that osmeone should get perma ban at his first afk. Btw as even the current afk disclaimer sais: life happens and we understand but your afk put others in difficulties so you get punished hence: your problems we do not give a shit, if you are afk often you get a leaver boster. And frankly that is how it works and should work, if you do it once you pass, twice you get a leaver booster but if it happens too often you should get banned no matter the reason. Frankly, dunno why someone with a crappy pc cannot install and play the game( for obvious gameplay issues) but someone with a crappy internet connection or electricity should not be prevented from playing the game as well. As with the crappy pc: it is not your fault but if you do not meet the basic requirements (old pc, crappy internet etc..) for a decent game you should be prevented from playing it as long as it stays a teamplay game. And btw this is an excuse that usually mostly ragequitters use.
Dagòn (EUNE)
: Hi, I'm from a developed part of the world. My power dropped for the 4th time this year this morning for 20 minutes, and I lost internet because of a tool with a semi went on my street when it's illegal for him to do so, and effectively ripped the power and internet lines straight off the pole. How is my electricity provider cutting the power for no reason my fault? How is a plant driving a semi through an illegal place for him and ripping off electricity and internet wires from the pole? How exactly do I control **ANY** of this? Yes, AFKers are extremely common now, what you are suggesting would have an **extreme** amount of collateral damage.
> [{quoted}](name=TheCampingOwl,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=Rwd2AEev,comment-id=000200000001,timestamp=2019-10-15T16:37:44.054+0000) > > Hi, I'm from a developed part of the world. > Depends on what your standards for developed world are; frankly i think there are just a few contries that meet full requirement to be considered fully developed but never mind (btw if you have so many shortages of electricity try sueing your provider, it is his duty to provide minimum standard of service or compensate his clients even if it is not his fault) As the present afk leaver booster disclaimer says, life happens and we understand but your afk put people in difficulty so you get a penalty. Which means: nobody cares much about it, your fault or somebody else's, if you %%%% %%%%or any reason you get a penalty and that is how it works in life and should work in here but this is not the case in this game and that is why in low elos it is full of trollers and afk and that is why a 3 afk rule than you get auto ban should be implemented.
Tarolock (EUNE)
: >i get myself a ban for kindly replying to a troll that kept going on all game flaming me post chatlogs and we can tell how kind you are
> [{quoted}](name=Tarolock,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=5sAutApx,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-08-31T02:36:46.228+0000) > > post chatlogs and we can tell how kind you are Dunno how, apart gameplay i do not really know much about the game since i do not care all that much
: Two things may actually have happened. You used words that have something to do with death, race and sex, or it's not the first time you "kindly reply" to someone and you were probably warned to watch out about your kindness already. Either way, you are already not telling the full story. How about posting the chatlogs?
> [{quoted}](name=Sarchiapon,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=5sAutApx,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-08-31T04:50:46.163+0000) > > Two things may actually have happened. You used words that have something to do with death, race and sex, or it's not the first time you "kindly reply" to someone and you were probably warned to watch out about your kindness already. Either way, you are already not telling the full story. How about posting the chatlogs? Oh, good point, maibe my "go suicide" was seen as a suggestion to the gamer and not to his intentional suiciding gameplay, altought by the overall chat and contest it was pretty obvious what i was referring to, must be a complete idiot to missread it which may be the case since riot employees are not the apex of cleverness Thank you, at least one decent comment in this braindead community
Rioter Comments
Warix3 (EUW)
: Don't be so delusional. People have been banned many times due to fake reports. If you say even one "bad" word, it's enough to justify the reports.
> [{quoted}](name=Warix3,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=2ji3UKKJ,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-03T00:21:39.949+0000) > > Don't be so delusional. People have been banned many times due to fake reports. If you say even one "bad" word, it's enough to justify the reports. I wish it was true
GLurch (EUW)
: I can't tell Riot to implement features or things like that, if you have changes that you think would be good, you can create a post and depending on how the community reacts to your feedback, Riot may consider it. Since almost everything is done on NA, your best bet would be to create a post on the NA Boards: https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com If I were to want some change to be implemented, I could for sure poke certain Rioters about it, but they'd most likely ignore me or may even be annoyed to the point where they break up contact with us (since Rioters who are not community managers mostly decide voluntarily to have contact with us, though I doubt they'd just break up their contact with us, but it is possible). Even for me, the best bet would be to create a post and see how it is received. Only if a post gets an overwhelming amount of attention, I'd really consider poking some Rioter about it (if they didn't already see it). Then again, since most of that stuff happens on NA and we don't have a lot to do with it, this would probably be something an NA Volunteer would be more likely to ever do. That aside, if you're asking me for what I think, I think that while it may be cool at first, people would stop caring about such a function after looking at it once. It doesn't seem worth the effort to me for something that'll most likely be ignored by players. The honor system is supposed to show that you're behaving good, not that you're reporting people. Rewarding people for reporting others may only encourage them to spam report everyone, since there are no downsides to it either. When the tribunal system introduced small IP rewards for successfully punishing someone, people just punished everyone, I'd expect a similar response here. Though then again, that's only my opinion and as I said, you can try creating a post on the NA boards and maybe, contrary to my expectations, people would actually really want to look at these stats and get rewards for reporting people. I can only speak for myself.
> [{quoted}](name=GLurch,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=fWYl8EvA,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2019-08-02T11:11:45.629+0000) > >I , people just punished everyone, I'd expect a similar response here. > As things are now, **would rather have a much stricter system** (at the cost of even being punished myself) and punish every little thing rather than go on like this, **the game is being too permissive** and lacking in the control of bad behaving plaiers, in normal and up to silver raked games( maibe even gold), lol has become a den of trolls, flamers and afkers (intentional ones, i do not count the moltitude being affected by bugs), in a teamfight game such as this one, without any way to kick out ppl ingame, the system should be focused on either preventing such folks to even play or implement a system to kick out of the game someone ( like a vote of majority from both teams ) and replace him with some random ppl who may agree to go into an ongoing game. **If you put together the times one has to play with or against trolls plus ppl who cannot log in beacause of frequent bugs, than you get maibe a pair of decent games out of ten**, and in a colossal game such as this one i think it is laughable and unbecoming
Rios160 (EUNE)
: if a pc is too old and crapy u dont have right to complain that u lag because of riot. thats my point.
> [{quoted}](name=Rios160,realm=EUNE,application-id=ETj6EdvQ,discussion-id=mqNHbhxk,comment-id=00000000000000010000,timestamp=2019-08-02T07:06:19.623+0000) > > if a pc is too old and crapy u dont have right to complain that u lag because of riot. thats my point. I understand your point but i think you are missing the topic of the thread which are bugs (on Riot's side problem), not lags(user's problem).
Rios160 (EUNE)
: Im sorry to say but its your problem. I had very bad pc with these specs: 2gb ram ddr3 Intel celeron 1,10ghz ati radeon hd 4550 i think And I was stuck in loading screen ALOT OF TIMES, like ALOT. And I got many leaver busters. And when I got new pc, Literally not a single time I did get stuck into loading screen. So its you not riot.
> [{quoted}](name=Rios160,realm=EUNE,application-id=ETj6EdvQ,discussion-id=mqNHbhxk,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-01T19:16:19.160+0000) > > Im sorry to say but its your problem. > I had very bad pc with these specs: > 2gb ram ddr3 > Intel celeron 1,10ghz > ati radeon hd 4550 i think > > And I was stuck in loading screen ALOT OF TIMES, like ALOT. And I got many leaver busters. > > And when I got new pc, Literally not a single time I did get stuck into loading screen. So its you not riot. One question, leaving aside that ppl with new/powerful pcs have the same problem too and that if a pc is too old or crappy it should not get the minimum requirements to install the game in the first place, if the problem is within the pc why does it only have the problem sometimes? Does he have a moody pc?
: Blizzard actually did have a requirement with physical autheticators in WoW, and flat out closed the accounts that were compromised if they didn't have the authenticator attached (even accounts with autheticators were closed if they were caught botting), which is more than fair in my eyes. It's a little bit beside the point I was trying to make though, currently there is no cost to losing an account other than your own time, and Riot does not seem to mind and- or care about the countless players losing their time & efforts by having their games ruined intentionally by another player.
> [{quoted}](name=Dancing chipmonk,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=MgwHiQxI,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2019-07-26T14:01:58.904+0000) >Riot does not seem to mind and- or care about the countless players losing their time & efforts by having their games ruined intentionally by another player. well it is not in their interest to make things good for the everage reasonable payer but to ammass as many ppl as possible into the game, till the majority of ppl playing the game will be ok with things as they are, riot will try to put as little effort as they can. Better invest a ton of money into advertising to get the game full of ppl even if they are unreasonable morons rather than use some of it to make the game better
: You're a bit dramatizing the situation if you have a problem with someone flaming you you can just mute him Riot can't do anything about that ( in game i mean ) and then report him the chance you will play again with him are slim you said you were high silver and you reached iron because or trolls ? it's impossible you're liying to yourself losing so much games means 90% are your fault yes you can't win everything but from silver to iron it's too much PS*: we say players silver and bronze in english PS**: tell me the guy who told you it's a free game and they don't have money
> [{quoted}](name=Curse of Nashor,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=Nv6qiyzI,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-26T16:54:53.977+0000) > > You're a bit dramatizing the situation if you have a problem with someone flaming you you can just mute him Riot can't do anything about that ( in game i mean ) and then report him the chance you will play again with him are slim you said you were high silver and you reached iron because or trolls ? it's impossible you're liying to yourself losing so much games means 90% are your fault yes you can't win everything but from silver to iron it's too much > PS*: we say players silver and bronze in english > PS**: tell me the guy who told you it's a free game and they don't have money Oh well so much ro reply to: first, i am not really dramatizing things, just saying how the game is going down the rope on bugs and similar problems based on the last 2 weeks experience, if u haven't had any problem with log ins, ppl up to 3 per games unable to log, bugged champions and disabled ranked games, than u are maibe the luckiest guy out there being that Riot itself writes its own missdoing Second, and here_ i think you have misunderstood all my pos_t: **i do not care one bit about flaming**, really, i plaied so many games that i almost enjoy reading the flames when kids ingame start flaming eachother, the problem may be, as i said at the beginning, for newcommers who may not be so used to the flame unlike your everage kid that plays lol. Third: never said i went from diamond to iron 4 if it even exists. And yes, trust me on that, i went from silver 1 to bronze 2 thanks to trolls, log in problems( just last week lost 3 games for not being able to log into a match, did not get an afk penalty but lost points either way) ragequitters and so on. Don't know which rank are you in but if you are Silver or below and you have not had problems with trolls in almost every game than you are the luckiest person in this game for real Fourth: 90% are my fault for losing. Ok look, i plaied this game for some time here and i kinda get when i lose a game beacause i am inept with a champion and whe i lose beacause of trolls, which are not all that difficult to spot i must tell, i go always from bronze 1 to silver 2 at least every season but it is harder by the day to go up ranks thanks to trolls, afk, ragequitters and flamers (which are useless ingame beacause too focused on writing than playing,) out of 10 games, hardly 4 are decent teams, the other six ones are usually a race to whom has less trolls or afk in their team wins and it is not a problem only i am lamenting about, playerbehaviour board has tons of complaints about it as well as ingame ppl lamenting this thing As last consideration : please read a post with due attention, you have extrapolated from mine the most tryvial meaning( flaming which i have to repeat i do not care about), not replying to my core point: what is Riot's policy overall, havinga game full of ppl even the moron ones or have a game of behaving ones which can put at eas even newcomers BTw thanks to your post scriptum, i really did not know how you write silver in english, but it also underlines how much you have actually grasped the lower ranked games being that almost all kids do write it the wrong way; and no i do not remember the name of asomeone replying to my post from 2 years ago **Again for all: **read a post carefully, do not reply after reading a tiny peace or of it, otherwise it is a useless comment, thank you****
: Harassment
> [{quoted}](name=Lain thibideau,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=G9vZNarM,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-07-26T01:13:33.039+0000) > i played jhin a champ i have no clue how to farm with, or where to place him in fights and ect, i made a lot of mistakes with him in that game. but at the start i made two little mistakes, and my support inted me and left me in a 3v1 bot lane. Well, u wrote a lot but with few useful details. First: If you were playing a brand new champ in Ranked, with no exp whatsoever in a lane where if 1 is not good than automatically the other is screwd too, than i am sorry but the fault is almost all on u, being that there are palces where u can practice, sure flame is not good but i see kids flaming each other for a minion kill let alone for something really important, Vice versa if u where just not good but with experience, than the fault is partial on supp, but his fault is mostly for flame not really for the change of line, being that sometimes pushing a good line is better than getting 2 ppl screwed in 1 and the team could still win, it is subjective in such cases, one cannot judge without looking directly at the game.
faidon21 (EUNE)
: riot you banned me for 10 days but when you did that did you think how they treated me before i flamed them.1st nami told me to go play minecraft(flame) I just write this bc if you i dont get my honor level 1 1of 3 to 2 i am going to be mad.To understand how stupid you look you ban the good people that carry the game and let the %%%%ing nami support that flames for my 1/5 when i got 9/7/10 after.YOUR SYSTEM IS TOTALLY WRONG FIX THIS BAN BEFORE I FIX YOUR BRAINS I HAVE EVEN PAID 10$ FOR YOUR STUPID ASS GAME!!!!!
> [{quoted}](name=faidon21,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=G9vZNarM,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-07-26T09:01:57.924+0000) > > riot you banned me for 10 days but when you did that did you think how they treated me before i flamed them.1st nami told me to go play minecraft(flame) > I just write this bc if you i dont get my honor level 1 1of 3 to 2 i am going to be mad.To understand how stupid you look you ban the good people that carry the game and let the %%%%ing nami support that flames for my 1/5 when i got 9/7/10 after.YOUR SYSTEM IS TOTALLY WRONG FIX THIS BAN BEFORE I FIX YOUR BRAINS I HAVE EVEN PAID 10$ FOR YOUR STUPID ASS GAME!!!!! You call nami telling u to play minecraft a flame? Than you are lucky and i think you have never really experienced true flame, if u started to flame just beacause of a simple phrase than the ban is all on you
: As admirable as your effort is in trying to help reduce overall toxicity, I am also wondering **why** you even bother? The mess is **entirely** Riot's own doing, and as you said yourself, even their own effort is ridiculously low.., something I can actually believe since I don't have a single game any longer, without at least 1 person going afk (usually after inting a few kills), or running around not doing anything (trolling), or popping off to the major leagues in chat. You can't have 2 week bans and then "a permanent ban" when you allow players to create new account at will, and then assume it's going to lead to a better environment (That's the height of stupidity). If you wanna try and improve the environment, then add some form of physical authenticator so there is a cost to creating new accounts, and implement the option to disable the chat entirely.
> [{quoted}](name=Dancing chipmonk,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=MgwHiQxI,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-07-25T19:54:09.108+0000) > > As admirable as your effort is in trying to help reduce overall toxicity, I am also wondering **why** you even bother? > > The mess is **entirely** Riot's own doing, and as you said yourself, even their own effort is ridiculously low.., something I can actually believe since I don't have a single game any longer, without at least 1 person going afk (usually after inting a few kills), or running around not doing anything (trolling), or popping off to the major leagues in chat. > > You can't have 2 week bans and then "a permanent ban" when you allow players to create new account at will, and then assume it's going to lead to a better environment (That's the height of stupidity). > If you wanna try and improve the environment, then add some form of physical authenticator so there is a cost to creating new accounts, and implement the option to disable the chat entirely. I agree with the part of being Riot' s fault but strongly disagree with the autentication, it is not possible i think, not even paid games do have such requirements. It would be enough to effectively ban a plaier after a pair of trolled games, cause a new prifile takes a lot to reach lvl 30, the problem is that riot is hardly ever doing anything to ban ppl, just when they reach an apex and have done a lot of bullsh*t
Rioter Comments
: you should be allowed to Vote DURING a game up to a certain time limit to Kick TROLL players. and bring in a new player. This would stop all the mess of people who troll because they are acting like a toddler.
> [{quoted}](name=Mad Malkie,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=ldAbMOEK,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-04-10T18:19:06.129+0000) > > you should be allowed to Vote DURING a game up to a certain time limit to Kick TROLL players. and bring in a new player. > This would stop all the mess of people who troll because they are acting like a toddler. Yea but it could be used also to kick plaiers that had a bad start in a game. Trolls need to be punished by lol who never does btw
Rioter Comments
Honestly (EUW)
: I completely disagree with this. I tend to find that the higher elo I am, the more toxic the players. The rank of a player is. However, most of the time, of no relation to their behaviour in-game. To the OP - the punishment system Riot have isn't perfect, it's not always going to dish out the punishments instantly, but if players are consistently being trolls, and being reported for it multiple times, it'll eventually trigger reviews and the players will receive their punishments. You kinda just have to have faith in a system you don't know to do the job it's meant to do, I can almost guarantee that if the player is intentionally trolling games, they'll be punished sooner or later.
> [{quoted}](name=Honestly,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=44eMO3KY,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-09-28T03:50:26.112+0000) > > I completely disagree with this. I tend to find that the higher elo I am, the more toxic the players. The rank of a player is. However, most of the time, of no relation to their behaviour in-game. > > To the OP - the punishment system Riot have isn't perfect, it's not always going to dish out the punishments instantly, but if players are consistently being trolls, and being reported for it multiple times, it'll eventually trigger reviews and the players will receive their punishments. > > You kinda just have to have faith in a system you don't know to do the job it's meant to do, I can almost guarantee that if the player is intentionally trolling games, they'll be punished sooner or later. Well it is the eventually and the sooner or later that worries me. Let me explain: the one that i mentioned earlirer i have already plaied with at least once and he was heavely toxic and by looking at his scores i could see that he pretty much trolled in an obvious way at least in other 3 games, and this does not include the times he may have trolled in a morre sneaky way. So till a troller plays even 1 decent game out of 10 he is safe? Than almost nobody gets a real ban
CJXander (EUNE)
: Well... low ranked games are low for a reason, it's the place where people with bad attitude and terrible game skills are residing. That's why it is called low elo. You can't expect any good behaviour in that place. It's like expecting refined tastes from some subway inhabitants.
> [{quoted}](name=CJXander,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=44eMO3KY,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-09-27T23:40:30.411+0000) > > Well... low ranked games are low for a reason, it's the place where people with bad attitude and terrible game skills are residing. That's why it is called low elo. You can't expect any good behaviour in that place. It's like expecting refined tastes from some subway inhabitants. Well i am silver so it is not really the very bottom and if i may say i have plaied games with higher elo but did not see much of a difference, vice versa i think that it was more decent in bronza 1
Sephiro (EUNE)
: player got banned after 0-17
> [{quoted}](name=Sephiro,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=LpkoHkd4,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-09-26T16:24:50.979+0000) > > Hey > > Just a heads up to those who says that punish system when feeding dosent work. > 0-17 singed got banned, the message popped up that a player had got his/her punishment after 5 min after the game. The message does not mean anithing by itself, he must have been just warned or had a minor punishement. Kinda hard to believe he got banned just for being 0 17, seen a much worse score plus flame not being tuched by the punishment sistem
Rioter Comments
H1SD (EUNE)
: Proof they aren't banned?
> [{quoted}](name=3 D,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=43J0i002,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-09-21T19:30:34.535+0000) > > Proof they aren't banned? I got to play again with/against ppl i reported more than once, is it enough proof?
Meewoo (EUW)
: Is it still possible to get back up to honor level 1
> [{quoted}](name=Meewoo,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=htObraFU,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-09-26T18:18:33.824+0000) > > Hi, > > I just got chat restricted again after working hard for platinum rewards and went straight back locked level I was wondering if it's even possible to get honor level 2 with the end of the season approaching... Man what have u done to be degraded? Got hard on racism?
: Flame after game?
> [{quoted}](name=Mr Shift It,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=wW5QJz1x,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-09-21T20:02:08.859+0000) > > i'm wondering, if someone tells me to Kill myself after game, and i report twice. > > once in Client, once as a ticket. will this person be banned? Unless he has gone hard on racism or an insane ammount of plaiers report him he will not get any kind of punishment, let alone a ban ajaja. Just started playing?
: > [{quoted}](name=Nidrio,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=43J0i002,comment-id=0004000000000000,timestamp=2018-09-24T12:04:35.236+0000) > > Indeed it seems we play different games, and btw do not get heated up I am just discussing what I have seen in all my games, never said that all is bad just that low level is unplaiable these days and it is getting worse instead of getting better/fixed. > I got messages too of punishement but one out of 100 and and sometimes they get only the small flies leaving the real toxic/trollers usually untuched; > **Hence i am wondering if they do not take sanctions even in the obviuos cases just cause they want the server to be full at all times or if the report is useless/broken as it stands so to try and make some adjustments** being that more and more ppl are lamenting about it. The various posts of "why was i banned" clearly beggs to differ from your statement. Not banning for keeping servers full is a creative theory but not true at all, else i'd like to see some relevant data on that and how you came to that conclusion. I save you the snappy comeback and just acknowledge that there is none. Riot is taking toxicity seriously in order **to keep the servers full and make money.** Can they pick out every single person who has ever been toxic? No. Do they claim to? No. Do they claim the system is perfect? No. Do they improve it? Yes, and they throw a lot of money at it. I don't know how long you are playing League, but back in the day reporting people was a pain. There are two problems with this community and it has nothing to do with the banning system. 1. People are toxic because they hide behind computer screens. 2. People get upset about being insulted by people behind computer screens. In other words, people should stop being such snowflakes (is this still an acceptable word is someone offended?) and just ignore it. You will never make everybody happy period. Now matter how hard you try, or how nice you are. But if that doesn't sound like something you can deal with, you might want to consider other games, that don't include a multiplayer. You blame the report system when the actual root of the problem is somewhere else. But it's easier to blame Rito i guess.
> Riot is taking toxicity seriously in order **to keep the servers full and make money.** Can they pick out every single person who has ever been toxic? No. Do they claim to? No. Do they claim the system is perfect? No. Do they improve it? Yes, and they throw a lot of money at it. I don't know how long you are playing League, but back in the day reporting people was a pain. There are two problems with this community and it has nothing to do with the banning system. > man i give up, you are absolutely right in everithing, never mind you did not even understand i was mainly talking about TROLLS/AFK at base (those that are plainly doing it by even writing that they are gonna troll) and do not really give a s..t abuot toxic plaiers since riot has resolved this brolem with the mute button and i am advocating a possible solution to trolls too. Since u see the game as perfect and without any flows with the best plaiers ever just abstain from writing any comments if u do not any useful information and btw this was just to claim awarness to the topic since i see a lot of people complain in this board about the huge downfall of the game but nm. And i play the game cause it is free and enjoiable and i would like to go on playing without having a damn troll in every game. If u know any game that is in the same category of lol just mention it maibe i am gonna shift platforms since i am not all that knwolegdeable on game.
: > [{quoted}](name=Nidrio,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=43J0i002,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2018-09-21T11:46:17.407+0000) > > I have done the description and so on still nothing changes and ppl do not get punished unless they go hard on racist terms , trust me, i am telling this out of experience. > Second i am NOT LAMENTING ABOUT NOOBS, not like i expect pros in my games, what i am against are pretty evident trolls and afkers at base or under tower that are pretty obvious (sometimes even write in chat they are gonna troll) and keep doing it really often (not against someone thet deos it once) in games > I may understand the tech persons but if nothing is done this game is getting worse by the day, if it does not get cleansed unless you have 4 friends this is gonna be unplaiable Well it seems we both are playing different games then because i get messages about a successfull punishment often (not always, but often). If you want to be taken seriously stop saying "Riot never does anything, trust me", hence i won't keept discussing this with you.
> [{quoted}](name=Taliyah Supp,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=43J0i002,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2018-09-21T14:23:25.874+0000) > > Well it seems we both are playing different games then because i get messages about a successfull punishment often (not always, but often). If you want to be taken seriously stop saying "Riot never does anything, trust me", hence i won't keept discussing this with you. Indeed it seems we play different games, and btw do not get heated up I am just discussing what I have seen in all my games, never said that all is bad just that low level is unplaiable these days and it is getting worse instead of getting better/fixed. I got messages too of punishement but one out of 100 and and sometimes they get only the small flies leaving the real toxic/trollers usually untuched; **Hence i am wondering if they do not take sanctions even in the obviuos cases just cause they want the server to be full at all times or if the report is useless/broken as it stands so to try and make some adjustments** being that more and more ppl are lamenting about it.
: Well that´s not an excuse ( cos it´s silver/bronze) they should be PERMANENT BAN , if they wanna TROLL afk they should play draft not RANKED. And mostly people don't report them they should get 9 reports mainly there is only 3-5ppl who reports and like i said RIOT does NOTHING to prevent this kind of behavior.
> [{quoted}](name=çhaotisch,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=43J0i002,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-09-21T05:48:16.136+0000) > > Well that´s not an excuse ( cos it´s silver/bronze) they should be PERMANENT BAN , if they wanna TROLL afk they should play draft not RANKED. And mostly people don't report them they should get 9 reports mainly there is only 3-5ppl who reports and like i said RIOT does NOTHING to prevent this kind of behavior. The numbers are relatively important, in some games both teams reported a evident troller (so some 6 reports at least) yet i still plaied against the same person who did the same thing again and again that is why i wonder if Riot does not ban anibody on purpose so they can have always ppl in their servers even if they are ban material
: > [{quoted}](name=Nidrio,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=43J0i002,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-09-20T23:23:31.695+0000) > So here is my question: why does nobody get any kind of penalty even if it is pretty clear that they were trolling/afk under tower/flaming unless they go hard on racism ? But they do get punished. Report for a valid reason and (!) write a short explenation with your report. Riot is getting flooded with rage reports, and making an automated system that can distinguish from fake and real reports is not easy and there is a margin of error. So if you really want someone to look at a (LEGIT!) report, include a short description of why you reported this player. It doesnt even have to be a whole sentence. Last time i reported someone i ticked the box and wrote " said "NEXUS, NOOBS " and thats it. Why is it so hard to see the tech persons perspective for some of you people?
> [{quoted}](name=Taliyah Supp,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=43J0i002,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-09-21T08:03:57.759+0000) > > But they do get punished. Report for a valid reason and (!) write a short explenation with your report. Riot is getting flooded with rage reports, and making an automated system that can distinguish from fake and real reports is not easy and there is a margin of error. So if you really want someone to look at a (LEGIT!) report, include a short description of why you reported this player. It doesnt even have to be a whole sentence. Last time i reported someone i ticked the box and wrote " said "NEXUS, NOOBS " and thats it. Why is it so hard to see the tech persons perspective for some of you people? I have done the description and so on still nothing changes and ppl do not get punished unless they go hard on racist terms , trust me, i am telling this out of experience. Second i am NOT LAMENTING ABOUT NOOBS, not like i expect pros in my games, what i am against are pretty evident trolls and afkers at base or under tower that are pretty obvious (sometimes even write in chat they are gonna troll) and keep doing it really often (not against someone thet deos it once) in games I may understand the tech persons but if nothing is done this game is getting worse by the day, if it does not get cleansed unless you have 4 friends this is gonna be unplaiable
: > Just finished playing my 5th game in a row in ranked and 5 out of 5 were pure s..t. Really. In 2 games the teams were so missmatched that ppl were almost more in respawn than in game and while at base they flamed and sweared in different languages at each other like beasts till one just gave up and started trolling in jng till the end (15 mins of troll). Yea, that tends to be the case when you're playing in 1.1K MMR. People are not very good at the game, they die more, and get frustrated more often, hence their ranks. You need to get out of bronze MMR, maybe get a to a low-mid gold one, in order to improve your gaming experience a bit.
> [{quoted}](name=The Lane Police,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=43J0i002,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-09-20T23:33:32.317+0000) > > In 2 games the teams were so missmatched that ppl were almost more in respawn than in game and while at base they flamed and sweared in different languages at each other like beasts till one just gave up and started trolling in jng till the end (15 mins of troll). > > Yea, that tends to be the case when you're playing in 1.1K MMR. People are not very good at the game, they die more, and get frustrated more often, hence their ranks. > You need to get out of bronze MMR, maybe get a to a low-mid gold one, in order to improve your gaming experience a bit. i am in silver and it is almost worse than it was in bronza 1. That is the problem. I would understand trollers and incredibly bad gamers ( when they are not trolls/intentional feeders) in bronza 5 but it is actually pretty bad till gold
: > [{quoted}](name=Nidrio,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=3dawP0Mg,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-09-20T21:14:23.933+0000) > > Maibe he did not get banned cause he had a reason to flame. Many just do not really understand that sometimes ppl get tilted if they play with trolls or afkers btw the mute button has a purpose try figuring it out. > Btw lol does not ban anibody unless they are openly and heavely racist and either troll or go afk or get reported by a massive ammount of gamers so... good luck with the reports reason to flame or not, flame = ban no matter what kind. getting tilted isn't an excuse to flame mute button fixes nothing, its just a bucket under the pipe instead of fixing the leak itself again, a simple racist word and he should be banned amount of reports is irrelevant. 1 report is equal to 9, so yeah. good luck {{sticker:slayer-jinx-catface}}
> [{quoted}](name=ned the kled,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=3dawP0Mg,comment-id=00020001,timestamp=2018-09-21T09:06:14.501+0000) > > reason to flame or not, flame = ban no matter what kind. > > getting tilted isn't an excuse to flame > > mute button fixes nothing, its just a bucket under the pipe instead of fixing the leak itself > > again, a simple racist word and he should be banned > > amount of reports is irrelevant. 1 report is equal to 9, so yeah. good luck {{sticker:slayer-jinx-catface}} man here nobody gets banned even after swearing and intentional feed (0 30), so it is useless to report a flamer and the mute even if not perfect it still is a good countermeasure while the game does not have anithing of the sort for trolls and base afkers
Rioter Comments
DylxnBK (EUW)
: riot doesnt care about the reason to flame. if you say something toxic, you are supposed to get punished, regardless. so this guy saying the n word multiple times in a row should make him prone to getting banned STRAIGHT away.
nonsense, just finished a game in wihch 2 noobs that had no help from jng in first minute just started flaming and trolling big time. one i had already been reported 2 times by me and my team for trolling and flame yet nothing has been done and it is pretty sure i will see him again. The game before was even worse: 2 afk after 5 mins and a flamer. And this happens in ranked, in normal it must be a damn hell Unless people go hard on racism nobody gets banned; not my opinion it is just a fact go see older theats of ppl that plaied this game for a long time and see the everage percentage of ppl getting any actual punishement: 3 out of 100 maibe. Dunno why but in lol almost nobody gets a penalty and those who get it are sometimes the harmeless ones
: unless they flame in chat they wont do anything really
even if they do flame and also troll at the same time lol actually does not really do a thing
: dude that's racist and spams %%% still playing
Maibe he did not get banned cause he had a reason to flame. Many just do not really understand that sometimes ppl get tilted if they play with trolls or afkers btw the mute button has a purpose try figuring it out. Btw lol does not ban anibody unless they are openly and heavely racist and either troll or go afk or get reported by a massive ammount of gamers so... good luck with the reports
: To be honest, I've noticed of late that people have little to no tolerance for any errors of any kind. Die once or twice in lane? You're inting. Misplay, miss smite or otherwise fumble? Trolling. Anything that can be considered trolling, no matter how small, and someone will probably jump on it.
well it depends: in normal games no use flaming cause it is a place to learn so flamers should get reported. It is however different in ranked: a lot of ppl troll or just get a missmatched with a powerful team dragging down their team as a whole. so someone is so used to play with trolls that they cannot recognise a noob/bad game from a troll or intentional feeder. This flame in many cases is pretty much lol's fault: almost nobody gets banned for troll even if they are pretty obviously doing it on purpose so every year the number of trolls gets higher and in low level ranked it is impossible to play 2 decent games without at least a troll so plaiers get fed up and flame almost each game
Nevlies (EUW)
: Game crashes / lag issues/ afk
>1) Should i just stop playing because i get punished for something that i cant grasp how to fix ? 2) Can i appeal for a trouble shoot or something so that i wont get leaverbuster ? > 3) I always try to reconect back to the game asap it takes between 2-8 minutes , but the team already flames me for going afk even after i explain the situation . What should i do ..? >4) I really like to play but i feel guilty that my problems affect the gameplay of my teammates no matter how toxic they are . First answer: dunno your choice Second: no Third: Just play. It is strange enough they have not voted at min 3 to surrender Fourth: do not feel guilty, if the problem is within the game for a bug or something related you cannot do anithing hence no need to feel it. You should instead report the problem, the report gets almost always ignored but if you are lucky and a lot of other plaiers have the same issue it may get fixed in due time.
Wepík (EUNE)
: Is this normal in your games? Offensive playstyle against your own teammate.
First answer: And that is a bad game? You just described more than half of the games in low levels of ranked games, there is always the kid that starts either trolling or go afk as soon as something goes wrong, even as soon as min. 3 of a game. I call a bad game when i get more than 2 trolls and that happens a lot too. And second answer: no, nobody gets punished unless they start doing something utterly and plainly wrong which cannot be overseen such as being racist and such or goes effectively afk. Trolls and afk plaiers in base for example do not ever get a penalty; flamers may get one but they have to swear or make racist comments. Example: reported with teammates a plaier in 3 differrent games for trolling and intentional feed (as supp started wandering in jng as soon as his lane was low on kills and never came out of it till he was killed) yet i still could play a game against him a fourth time.
: I'm getting sick of this
I have a similar problem, however i get the bug just the first game of each day; after i get the leaver buster it works fine for the current day I have had this problem already. It usually occcurs every two months after a major patch release. It lasts for a week than it goes away on its own Just have patience and it is gonna get fixed on its own and btw it is useless to report it since they usually ignore reports till they affect a large ammount of users
: Riot, fix your loading screen
It has been 3 days like this for me. The first game of each day freezes on loading screen but do not worrry; after you get a wonderful leaver buster the game works perfectly for a whole day. Just get used to get a leaver buster a day for a week or so. As for me, this problem reoccurs every now and then after the release of a major update and it goes away after a certain ammount of time. The problem is not gonna be fixed by Riot; submitting a bug report is useless too since it usually gets ignored so just wait patiently for about a week and it should get better on its own

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