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: I'm in 2 minds honestly, I hate auto fill as it forces you to play a role you don't enjoy or know which leads to less fun and being at a disadvantage. That said though is a challenger jungler really going to belong with silver players if he tries out a role they haven't played till now? Extreme example I know but in normals as a silver player I've ended up against challenger opponents in ranked so clearly having separate rankings doesnt work out well
well as far is i know, once you hit master you have no seperated ranking. Just below master. But you can still have a diamond 2 in gold which is equal to smurfing.
: >then why wouldnt they want to dodge every single game they dont have their primary role or are even autofilled? Because they will get punished just like in other seasons ? > Lets say we have a D2 Midlaner which is plat 5 as adc? Why would this midlaner care about wasting 20-40minutes playing a role in lower elo on a role that he doesnt care about or doesnt even want to play? Because he will gain LP on his main role too. >The only way to fix these issues is by removing autofill and give everyone their primary/secondary role and let us be in queue for 5-10 more minutes. Play in a team. Riot don't want people to wait 2 hour to find a match, if auto match wasn't needed they would have removed it, sadly not everyone plays some roles and not every player know how to play every role. >There will be 3 kind of people next season: 1.Will dodge everything thats not his primary role. 2.Will play autofilled and secondary role, but doesnt tryhard and just goes for yolo plays and fun cause in the end, he doesnt care too much about his non primary role. 3.Which is the very minority, will actually play and give their best even autofilled, cause they dont main anything and dont try to improve at the game. 1. If people still lose LP on dodging you you won't see a lot of them. 2. Then they will also lose LP on their main role since LP splash. 3. That's the best type of players, because when you play with a random team and you'll want to fill you won't always have the same type of role and they won't cry because they didn't get their main role, while the second type of players will troll because they didn't get to play Yasuo because they main mid and they main Yasuo. Since the ranked system seems to not work that well for Riot they are trying something else wich looks like a great system and it's something players wanted.
> [{quoted}](name=Deathraven13,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=QgZA06mE,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-11-16T12:49:35.447+0000) > > Because they will get punished just like in other seasons ? > > Dodging and losing some LP is no punishment, since it doesnt affect your MMR. > Because he will gain LP on his main role too. > > yea you will get like 5LP instead of 20-25 that u usually get for wasting 40 minutes on a role you dont care about. > Play in a team. >>already scrim a lot but what does that have to do with queue times? Season 3 i had like 25minutes of queue times in challenger, the games had way more quality than the challenger fiesta you have right now. > Riot don't want people to wait 2 hour to find a match, if auto match wasn't needed they would have removed it, sadly not everyone plays some roles and not every player know how to play every role. >> well everything below master wont wait more than 5 minutes anyways. And people in higher elo prefer quality over quantity. > 1.Will dodge everything thats not his primary role. > 2.Will play autofilled and secondary role, but doesnt tryhard and just goes for yolo plays and fun cause in the end, he doesnt care too much about his non primary role. > 3.Which is the very minority, will actually play and give their best even autofilled, cause they dont main anything and dont try to improve at the game. > > 1. If people still lose LP on dodging you you won't see a lot of them. >> believe me there are a lot of people who dont mind -3 or -5 LP for dodging if they can avoid time waste/mmr lose. > 2. Then they will also lose LP on their main role since LP splash. > 3. That's the best type of players, because when you play with a random team and you'll want to fill you won't always have the same type of role and they won't cry because they didn't get their main role, while the second type of players will troll because they didn't get to play Yasuo because they main mid and they main Yasuo. >> actually thats only possible in low elo, otherwise youll get smashed. And autofilling in low elo isnt really helpful at all. > > Since the ranked system seems to not work that well for Riot they are trying something else wich looks like a great system and it's something players wanted.
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: My awful smurf experience so far.
same here, just leveled a smurf on na, got reported for negativ attitude because i "stole " kills xD
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