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: Got falsely banned today because of using third party programs
Irrsinn (EUW)
: Looking back again you are right, it's more about people being soooo easily offended. That does not change the message of the above post: people don't usually get banned for things you claim they will be.
Thank you I'm glad we could meet halfway :)
Irrsinn (EUW)
: And because it's so funny you spread it around in every thread you post in? Without anything that even hints that it's supposed to be sarcastic? No sorry, but this is a bad try to wiggle out of backing up on what you spread. You want facts? Here are facts: We have dozens of threads weekly where people claim they are innocent. They are not. There are no threads where people, "humorously" or not, have been banned for things like you claim. We have Riots data. Data that gets peer reviewed by different universites. Everything we have points towards the system doing what it is supposed to do. Are there false bans? Could the system be better? Are you possibly not okay okay with the parameters the system works with? All possible. But the system is not as prone to mistakes as you try to make it out to be.
I didn't say the system is prone to mistakes bro. You hurt my feelings.
: My face when I have a shitty score but its the best in my team.
Or when someone tells you to stop flame after they wished cancer upon your family.
ibasan (EUW)
: please help me
I don't know how it works but when I subscribed to the youtube channel I got it.
: Normally you can't just stop with something you enjoy, unless your life situation changes in a way that doesn't allow you to continue. You have to replace it. So if you want to stop gaming, either change your life or find something else you enjoy.
Eambo (EUW)
: Hi Xinemesis, Would you mind uploading a screenshot? It's a bit easier to diagnose when we can see what's going on. Thank you!
Rioter Comments
Irrsinn (EUW)
: No, no, no. Just a short time ago you criticiced that people didn't write "most of the time" or "with almost 100% accuracy". As I told you: right back at you. You claim things and you either are going to prove them or your claims are nill and naught. Because there is nothing humorous here. You go around different posts and claim a lot. Time to own up to it.
Do you even know the definition of a joke? Sarcasm? Funny? I CLAIM nothing, I merely speculate and theorize. To claim something one needs facts and research and neither of us are in possession of those.
: Like I explained before: It's not even close to everyone. You can't just say "minority = basically everyone".
If you think so I'm happy for you. All I'm seeing is people kicking banned people further under the bus.
: > So how do I judge everyone By writing stuff like this: > the system isn't flawless like everyone basically claims.
"everyone basically" not "everyone" Can you see the difference my friend?
Svempe007 (EUNE)
: So can riot whiteknights explain why this guy got banned in the first place if not just beucase he got reported a lot?
People always say invalid reports doesn't matter so yeah how did this guy get banned then?
: may day may day requesting immediate back up
Here are some tips: 1. Work on getting a lot of CS (creep score), in bronze and silver it really wins games. 2. Pick one or two champions you feel comfortable with and master them to carry games. 3. Mute negative or salty players when they disturb you to avoid raging on them. 4. Realize that it's just a video game and doesn't really matter. 5. Have fun and enjoy every game on its own. Adios
Azure9861 (EUW)
: How the jungler works
Yeah I agree 100%, people don't understand that one does not simply gank Heimerdonger. ;D
Luis Sc (EUW)
: My beef here is that he tried to single out himself, when it was a) a human error, possibly when tuning the system, and b) there was more people involved. He can't just bring a story from way-back-when, manipulate the details, and make it sound like "yeah, I was punished by a system that doesn't work so you guys might be on to something when you say you were wrongfully banned." The people that were "wrongfully banned" can always post a screenshot of the email ( not an edited sly copy/paste of the email ) if they really think they are innocent. But we all know how that usually ends, this isn't our first rodeo. I worked in IT for years and I still think this is the wrong approach to the problem. In an analogy, you don't leave your doors open and close them as you see fit; you have them all closed and open as it proves safe. And while the system allow people to verbally tilt others, there will always be a Billy-no-buddies that will stir confusion with this sort of stuff.
Good Day sir I am definitely not singling myself out. Whether you believe me or not, I can assure you that the screenshots posted is my own and not manipulated details. (It really happened). I am aware that it was an error. When did I say the system doesn't work? Last year when I sought help and assistance on this forum I was shunned and received pages of hate comments. But here I am and can say with a clean conscious that I was however not toxic like so many deemed me to be without actually reading the entire thread. I would not want to single myself out since that will put a target on my back and maybe Riot is like "look at this guy he causes bad marketing for our game, let's ban him". However I doubt they will do something like that since they are a good and reasonable company. Good day
: > Why would I judge someone on something they didn't do? I don't know. Just to make this more clear: I am well aware these people exist. They post in quite a few threads. But you said it's EVERYONE. You are judging everyone based on a few expamples that are not even close to being a majority. THAT is what I am critisizing. You make it sound like everbody or almost everbody things the system is flawless and that is definetely not true at all.
Like I said read the PS... PS: If you are not one of those people-hating, player-judging people on this forum then this message does not apply to you, because you're awesome :P So yeah clearly not everyone unless you think everyone hates and judges people :P
: Probably because you continue to judge EVERYONE based on a few examples.
Did you read the PS? If not here it is: PS: If you are not one of those people-hating, player-judging people on this forum then this message does not apply to you, because you're awesome :P So how do I judge everyone when I clearly single out a type of person on this thread?
Luis Sc (EUW)
: Well, as stated before, the system wrongfully punished "a few" people. You were not a singled out case, that they decide to pardon; you're singling out yourself and, according to your screenshots, it wasn't "the system" per say, but "human error." Most of this people aren't banned because the system is malfunctioning and we both know this very well. I can imagine a plot twist here; you don't want the crying to end so you throw these type of hints as "hey, I was banned and they lift it" just so people won't stop opening threads. If anything, I approve. I enjoy them topics. I can't fathom how detached from reality people can sometimes be and, in all fairness, helps me go through the boring day at the lab watching tiny tubs being cut by tiny lasers.
Believe me drama is not my style so opening new threads is 100% not my goal. I'm showing that any system can and sometimes do make mistakes. And with that you cannot argue. I am also fully aware that I'm not a singled out case. Thanks for that :) Good day to you
Irrsinn (EUW)
: Yes one that was in a wave of false bans because stuff happened. In the meanwhile you can count the number of real false bans on one hand. But this post here? Completly made up. Nobody will be punished for "drake or "push mid". There will be no ban for pinging twice. People have never and will never be banned for a bad score alone. I get that you want the system to be bad but just making stuff up will not aid you.
I find it funny that you think I "make stuff up". The fact that people can basically find anything offensive is true. "drake" and "push mid" is used for humorous purposes not real scenarios. Enjoy your day
Irrsinn (EUW)
: The problem is that the system almost never does mistakes. If we have peoples words that there was a mistake but no proof then it is very, very safe to asume that there was no mistake. Just because people don't put the "almost always" everytime into their replies does not mean we are not aware that mistakes happen.
Then don't judge me for assuming you are not aware that mistakes happen when you don't post almost always. So I am indeed not making stuff up. ;P
Irrsinn (EUW)
: If you could stop spreading assumptions and made up stuff that comes to your mind that would be grand.
My ban was accidental... go read my other post if you don't believe me.
Kageryu (EUW)
: Scenario 1 is not claiming its perfect Scenario 2 is not claiming its perfect Scenario 3 is not claiming its perfect Scenario 4 is claiming its never making mistakes.
This is what I said: I will dig up some threads of proof that I do not "put something in their mouth". I have seen multiple situations where people claim that the system doesn't make mistakes or hate on a person who posted the thread and I will quote them for you later on. Claiming its never making mistakes= "people claim that the system doesn't make mistakes" The other 3 scenarios is proof of: "hate on a person who posted the thread" Both of them like I said in my comment. So what is your problem?
: The funny part is that you most likely still lost all your **honor points**, please check it. Last time I got banned by mistake - Riot didn't return me my honors, and I lost 250 "honorable opponent" and 350 "teamwork" honors! (All honors got reset to 0).
Luis Sc (EUW)
: If anything, I'm glad to see the system picks the slightest of things; makes me think that the people who slightly break the rules will, also, slightly get punished. Like it was said before, you were caught on a system error that was fixed. I like the way you manipulate information; you must be a joy to have around !
: No one claims that. That's why we always ask for the reform card or some kind of proof. If the person refuses to provide the card, or already flames heavily in his opening post, we have the proof. You don't have a point.
Can I just ask what is with the constant downvoting?
: One of your claims doesn't stand. This one: > like everyone basically claims No one does that. At least not the majority of frequent PB board users. We all know the system is damn good but definetely not perfect. Your claim that "everyone" says it's flawless is simply not true. I don't know a single person who says that. You are telling people that they are wrong by putting something in their mouth they never said and then proving it wrong. And thats what I critisize about this thread.
Scenario 1: *guy posts and complains about his ban* second comment="are you on LSD or just stupid?" Scenario 2: *person got 14 day ban, asks for help on a thread* 4th comment="And what do you want from us?" Scenario 3: *person received perma ban* 1st comment="=> Rekt you deserved it" Scenario 4: *14 day ban and person posts chat log* 3rd comment="The ban system never make mistakes, you deserve it kid." I will not name the summoners who posted these comments since that will count as naming and shaming. If you still do not believe me go look for yourself then. All of these quotes are from random people and threads on the player behaviour forum who posted about bans or the punishment system. Like I said, I'm not hating on the system, I'm simply stating that mistakes can and do happen and that my 14 day ban was one of them. Good day to you sir.
: Hm I don't find that comment insulting but i can understand why would some like you stated senstive players find it insulting.Also man thread like these only receive hate i havent really been active on forums in form of commenting but i have read it and any opinion that deviets slightly from what majority of players think here will be greet with hate...
Yeah listen to this guy. In most of the cases you only receive hate for posting your opinion or speaking the truth.
ProoGracz (EUNE)
: Cuz you said truth and someone got offended by it.
Someone give this man a cookie or something. Can I add you in-game because you understand this community.
: troll player plus flame in a ranked game
Don't name or shame. (They don't like it)
: One of your claims doesn't stand. This one: > like everyone basically claims No one does that. At least not the majority of frequent PB board users. We all know the system is damn good but definetely not perfect. Your claim that "everyone" says it's flawless is simply not true. I don't know a single person who says that. You are telling people that they are wrong by putting something in their mouth they never said and then proving it wrong. And thats what I critisize about this thread.
I will dig up some threads of proof that I do not "put something in their mouth". I have seen multiple situations where people claim that the system doesn't make mistakes or hate on a person who posted the thread and I will quote them for you later on. I certainly do not put something in someone's mouth because that is just plain stupid. Why would I judge someone on something they didn't do? There is no point in that I'll just be wasting my time. Good day Humeplstilzche
: No one claims that. That's why we always ask for the reform card or some kind of proof. If the person refuses to provide the card, or already flames heavily in his opening post, we have the proof. You don't have a point.
Go read some of the threads where someone posts about a ban. The first 2-3 comments is blind hate like "you deserve it" 90% of the time. Only later someone comes to actually help the sod instead of judging him (or her). And those people who provide the blind hate are the ones claiming how flawless the system is. In my case when I asked for help on my attitude and gameplay on this forum everyone posted hate comments and false accusations on my thread when my ban was actually accidental. Good day Furball
Hairyloco (EUW)
: Certainly, no existence can reach perfection or it would achieve divinity. However, the case you make is from a situation long ago that had been resolved promptly. Can it happen again? No doubt. Will we know it happens again? No doubt. Will it be resolved once more when it happens again? No doubt. So until then, you can rest assured that practically every ban is deserved.
"practically" that is where most people misread. I agree with you 100%. I am just happy to have discovered that my ban was a mistake since I didn't deserve it. The reason why I only brought up this situation a year late is because my league of legends' e-mail account is separate from my normal one. Yesterday I accidentally signed into it and discovered this e-mail. This is more of a personal thing of me to prove that I wasn't toxic like everyone claimed me to be when I seeked help on this forum but received hate. Good day sir
Hairyloco (EUW)
: Hey Eambo, This person is just digging up old stories, if you look at the thread in his screenshot, it's http://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behaviour-en/dQBzqgnF-concerning-banspunishmentrestrictions-etc, a thread from 7 months ago. @OP I understand your sentiment, but you misjudge the way the system works and what had happened when you received your ban. Also while reading your chatlogs, while perhaps not deserving of a ban, I don't think I'd want to play with you. In the chatlogs you posted you were negative and salty, issue being that you openly expressed that. Even though you've been wrongly punished, you should work on improving your attitude.
I certainly did work on my "attitude" and I came to the conclusion that the only 100% fail safe way to avoid bans is to avoid chat communication entirely since almost every word can be deemed "offensive". (the undeserved ban gave me a bit of a wake up call). I am not a punishment system hater. I am merely stating that mistakes happen. There was this one person on my forum where I asked for help who kept telling me how EVERY ban is deserved and that the system doesn't make mistakes. Although this is from last year I only checked my e-mail yesterday (I have a separate e-mail for my League account). I actually waited out the 14 days not knowing that my ban was indeed accidental. :D That's why I uploaded it today.
: I'm afraid thats old news, we all know that. It was a one time occasion and the bans were lifted a few hours laters (even for those who didn't write a ticket). Thats also why you will hardly find people here who claim that that PB systems make no mistakes at all. They just make very very few mistakes and if that happens (like on these two days last summer) they are fixed (i.e. the bans lifted).
My point still stands, the system isn't flawless like everyone basically claims. ;)
Eambo (EUW)
: No system is flawless, however it has an extremely high accuracy rate. The email you have screenshotted is from last year when a misconfiguration resulted in a small window of extremely harsh bans - these were revoked and all affected accounts were emailed accordingly. I'm not sure why this email is being shown in 2016, as this has not occurred again since and was a one-off occurrence. Here's the original link to when this happened and Lyte posted regarding it: http://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behaviour-en/Tmhs2EEn-urgent-issue-with-the-instant-feedback-system
I am not judging the system by any means, I am just stating that mistakes DO happen and it is only human, I am just tired of people claiming that EVERY single ban is deserved when that is not always the case.
: Will I get permabanned on 14th day?
Still funny to think that someone actually felt offended by this and spent two minutes of their life just to report him. I'm not saying his ban is undeserved. I just don't understand why people care about what other people say in an online game, go play single player games then . To answer your question, I doubt that you will be perma banned on the 14th day. I would advise you to abort the use of the chat since anything can be seen as "belitteling" these days. Pece
D1nzu (EUW)
: No reason? "cancer cancer report report omfg rport you noob retard cnacer cancer report" You have probably said those things. "no reason" pls...
Yeah man you're blaming the poor guy for things he possibly didn't do. That's a bit harsh ;) being a kid is awesome though.
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Kawatary (EUNE)
: Why I got banana ? Full story #rito
Sometimes accidental bans happen that was a mistake (like mine), after two days my punishment got lifted and I received an official apology from Riot via E-Mail. So no one can say the system is flawless. Let's say you are as good as you seem. I would advise you to just stay away from using the chat at all. Don't even type words like "push mid" or "drake" because some people will find it offensive, I guarantee it. (People find anything offensive and will report you for that). Rather only use the pings and don't use it more than twice. Because then you will be reported for "spamming" and still get banned. Next advice is to never die, because if you even die like once you will get reported for "intentional feeding" or "assisting enemy team". TLDR Never use any communication, only one or two pings, and have a flawless KD or you will get banned. (At least that's how the system sees it)
: Weekly reminder to the people who are suddenly sad cuz banned: Yes "ez" is punished.
SESENNN (EUNE)
: Unban SESENNN pls.
Sorry man there is no way to unban your account. You won't find any redemption here either, here there is only hate for you.
D1nzu (EUW)
: Of course I am here to make fun of you.
Because you have nothing better to do? :P
: Seems the game is not my wave
This game is filled with people who are offended by any word in the dictionary. That is why it's "not your wave". :S
: Have banned.
I love how people downvotes a question on this forum ;)
: Definition of "hate speech"?
According to 95% of the players in League of Legends and my personal experience, basically any word can somehow be "hate speech" or "verbal abuse". They will think out some fancy word like how you "belittle" someone or some retarded stuff like that. xD
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