Black0Price (EUNE)
: To be honest buddy in my humble point of view , The punishment wasn't deserved .. Let me talk about some topics: - You were negative to be honest saying alot of words to jinx trading words with words... which wasn't a very good thing because you could mute her and go on ... yeah she was contributing in the defeat but u could do better if u mute her... but you didn't which iam here to talk about ... she insulted you and you did insult her back. - But I don't see bad words , maybe ( Piece of shit ) which I don't like actually , but otherwise no severe words .. one word can trigger anger , but inting or trolling can trigger defeat and anger... You don't behave all the mistake .. Of course you said some rough words... but in my point of view... c'meon guys are we in nursery here? if we go to follow every small mistake everyone do ... then we wont be playing this anymore ... - Every living person has his own mistakes and much more are very good at hiding their mistakes ... but the point is that nobody is perfect... and rather riot trying to understand that .. try to adapt with that to decrease the number of the mistakes .. they are trying to prevent the mistakes which is impossible - In conclusion, I don't find you deserve a chat restriction but the punishment policy as I mentioned in my post is very very bad, their rules are pretty bad and not helping anyone .. you deserved a mild punishment or a warning which sadly riot don't know something about those yet *** And I have to warn you .. to be careful or your fate will be like mine... Permanent suspension , Just be careful buddy in your future matches .. And at your very angry moments remember that this match could get you a suspension and think losing your account isn't worthy for those couple of words you want to say , just pull out your anger or anything than those words for your safety till this amazing company find better rules and policy ***
Thank you, even tho you couldn't see the whole Chat you were the only one able to actually imagine what happened. You give me Hope. <3
Cypherous (EUW)
: > Yes i typed the comments, yet you seem to have misunderstood what i meant with false accusation, i was refering to the flaming and accusations from jinx, which, thanks to righteous riot i cannot show you. Their accusations don't mean anything unless they are valid, so you ignore them, the system decides if they are valid claims > people do not simply lack self control, thats generalization. If you're not able to control yourself then by definition thats a lack of self control, its really simple > Many people like me now will simply behave antisocial after situations like this. Or, just develop some self control, i've been here since season 1 and i have no issues laughing in the faces of flamers > yes, its getting more toxic. It really isn't, its always been this bad
if self control means being passive to you then this is really your problem and not a good advice, some people got a backbone. and you ask people to put their trust into a obviously not working (who'd be surprised by the buggy software of Riot) Punishment system. If i knew that there is a actual riot employee who actually cares, taking the time to read all of this shit i would be more inclined to not care about flaming like this.
: > [{quoted}](name=Paris Tilton,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=uYyBHpfh,comment-id=000500000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-20T20:30:20.835+0000) > > the only proof Riot is giving players is the message of people getting punishment, which happen´s really rarely Yes. So you can't prove people don't get punishments. You can only know sometimes for sure someone got punished.
thats bullshit, i've read somewhere that everytime a punishment is issued the players who report the punished get a message. and it rarely happens.
: > [{quoted}](name=Paris Tilton,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=uYyBHpfh,comment-id=000400000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-20T19:49:42.647+0000) > > A) That ain't a reason since one can simply order the stuff to work it off. > B) True > C) Well yes i do, like most people who get accused falsely > D) It is tho. A) I'm not sure you realize how many hours of content there would be to watch. I'd wager that with a team of 1000 employees, it'd take a month to do the workload that 1 day produces. B) Then you are to blame for your flaming, you agree ? C) No, you don't. Your reputation isn't smeared in the eyes of random people you won't ever meet again. D) Nobody has public stats about that, but I don't see a particular shift in toxicity in my games. So perhaps you increased your toxicity and it impacted your games, thus your feedback.
A) im not sure you realize that there a tons of "games as service" who got a team listening to the Playerbase, Reports, tickets etc. its a shame they would have to work for getting a more orderly, happy and less toxic playerbase. B) Not if im the only one getting punishment, since i have not been the aggressor but the defender, also i find it a little harsh that the Honor level is completely taken, i dont know if i get it back after the 10 Games tho, i would be very thankful if you knew something about that. C)Actually yes if i get reported for stuff i didnt do, Jinx was telling the enemy team to report me for trolling from like 10 Minutes into the game. and as i said before, and as proven be several situations the Punishment system cant be trusted. D)Actually im getting really cool, friendly and funny people in my games alot, my statement is based on Forumthreads and YouTube. which, to be fair may not be the best platforms for this kind of stuff, but as you said before there are no numbers. good for riot in the end i guess. im also, if thats what´s presumed here, not always reacting to flames and similar, in fact, this was pretty much the first time because the jinx overstepped her boundaries with these audacious accusations and her tries of getting the enemy team to report me.
Cypherous (EUW)
: > C) Well yes i do, like most people who get accused falsely Did you or did you not type the comments in the chatlog you posted? If you did then you were not falsely accused and you literally posted the evidence yourself, what you did is NOT defending yourself, its called RETALIATING, there is a massive difference between the two, defending yourself involves using the mute button, which you very clearly didn't use > D) It is tho. Not really, its been the same since season 1, people lack self control
Yes i typed the comments, yet you seem to have misunderstood what i meant with false accusation, i was refering to the flaming and accusations from jinx, which, thanks to righteous riot i cannot show you. people do not simply lack self control, thats generalization. Many people like me now will simply behave antisocial after situations like this. They won't be a integral and friendly part of the team anymore knowing the only solution is muting everybody. yes, its getting more toxic.
: > [{quoted}](name=Paris Tilton,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=uYyBHpfh,comment-id=0005000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-20T19:50:07.499+0000) > > Proof of reports working. I'm asking for a proof of YOUR assertions about reports not leading to sanctions.
the only proof Riot is giving players is the message of people getting punishment, which happen´s really rarely
: > [{quoted}](name=Paris Tilton,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=uYyBHpfh,comment-id=00050000000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-20T19:38:13.097+0000) > > Proof that it only works partially or at Riots whim : A bunch of reports, several, by others as well, did not get punished for far far worse stuff. Proof of that ?
Proof of reports working.
: > [{quoted}](name=Paris Tilton,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=uYyBHpfh,comment-id=0004000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-20T19:36:23.883+0000) > > is there a reason Riot cannot afford someone to watch the actual game to decide who's to blame? > like said earlier, i was the one who got blamed and flamed at, who got insulted and harassed, i simply defended myself, yet riot even takes the possibility for me to see if this Jinx got punished as well, whoever wonders why Lol gets more and more toxic should stop wondering and read things like this. Not to mention that getting punished by Riot for "misbehaving" is one huge pit of hypocrisy. > > i got my lesson, and i will draw consequences out of it. > > only thing im sad for is my Honor level because i earned mine. A) There are too many games played every day B) If you're both flaming, you're both to blame C) You have nothing to defend D) Toxicity isn't getting higher
A) That ain't a reason since one can simply order the stuff to work it off. B) True C) Well yes i do, like most people who get accused falsely D) It is tho.
Khvost (EUW)
: I always answered with rudeness to rudeness and got chat restriction. But real flamer avoid judgement. So riot teaches you that you should mute yourself and do nothing in chat, just play. Now I do not write to chat because system works against me and does not help me. I got my lesson.
its sad actually but that's what i will do as well, sad because there are a lot of pretty cool people in the game.
: > [{quoted}](name=Paris Tilton,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=uYyBHpfh,comment-id=000500000000,timestamp=2019-05-20T18:53:02.343+0000) > > Funny, because if there is one thing this whole "situation" teached me, its that i will be the North-Korea of Lol in the future, gonna mute all players from the beginning of the match, staying on my lane no matter what, playing only for me and not caring for anyone else. which is kinda sad because i found quite a few friendships through this game by writing with cool people. Also i´d now have to leave the House of unity because the game basically took all of the traits this house has from me. > > stating you got 100% of the info you need is also kinda audacious, sure i could have saved the piece of trash, but anyone who simply lets himself be harassed like that and does nothing about it is a coward, i wont simply tolerate such trolling. > > and i refrained from muting people because just because one person talks shit at a certain point in the game i dont believe he´s worth muting, actually some of the friendships i talked about were people who had a really bad day and behaved like this in game, yet after a bit of writing it got really funny in the good way. i wouldnt have these friendships if i muted people after the first shittalking. You don't do nothing. You report the player. That's how you face the issue. You don't take it into your own hands. You are not under any kind of threat that suggests you need to take immediate action, so you can wait the end of the game. Proof that reporting works : you're under a chat restriction.
> [{quoted}](name=IM Bula Bula,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=uYyBHpfh,comment-id=0005000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-20T19:31:34.310+0000) > > You don't do nothing. You report the player. > That's how you face the issue. You don't take it into your own hands. You are not under any kind of threat that suggests you need to take immediate action, so you can wait the end of the game. > > Proof that reporting works : you're under a chat restriction. Proof that it only works partially or at Riots whim : A bunch of reports, several, by others as well, did not get punished for far far worse stuff.
Cypherous (EUW)
: Yeah that isn't a valid enough reason to justify you breaking the rules when the mute button exists :P
is there a reason Riot cannot afford someone to watch the actual game to decide who's to blame? like said earlier, i was the one who got blamed and flamed at, who got insulted and harassed, i simply defended myself, yet riot even takes the possibility for me to see if this Jinx got punished as well, whoever wonders why Lol gets more and more toxic should stop wondering and read things like this. Not to mention that getting punished by Riot for "misbehaving" is one huge pit of hypocrisy. i got my lesson, and i will draw consequences out of it. only thing im sad for is my Honor level because i earned mine.
: > [{quoted}](name=Paris Tilton,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=uYyBHpfh,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-05-20T17:59:10.010+0000) > > really funny, because, and i think thats actually why riot made it this way, you can only see what i wrote, but not what i got to listen to. none of you really got any qualification to say i earned my restriction because Riot made it impossible to have 100% of information. We have 100% of the info we need actually. Nothing allows you to have this kind of behavior. Mute the people that harass you.
> [{quoted}](name=IM Bula Bula,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=uYyBHpfh,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2019-05-20T18:02:26.566+0000) > > We have 100% of the info we need actually. > Nothing allows you to have this kind of behavior. > Mute the people that harass you. Funny, because if there is one thing this whole "situation" teached me, its that i will be the North-Korea of Lol in the future, gonna mute all players from the beginning of the match, staying on my lane no matter what, playing only for me and not caring for anyone else. which is kinda sad because i found quite a few friendships through this game by writing with cool people. Also i´d now have to leave the House of unity because the game basically took all of the traits this house has from me. stating you got 100% of the info you need is also kinda audacious, sure i could have saved the piece of trash, but anyone who simply lets himself be harassed like that and does nothing about it is a coward, i wont simply tolerate such trolling. and i refrained from muting people because just because one person talks shit at a certain point in the game i dont believe he´s worth muting, actually some of the friendships i talked about were people who had a really bad day and behaved like this in game, yet after a bit of writing it got really funny in the good way. i wouldnt have these friendships if i muted people after the first shittalking.
Cypherous (EUW)
: > Paris Tilton: gonna make IT REALLY OBVIOUS FOR YOU BLIND PIECE OF SHIT I don't really need to read beyond this line, the report was valid and you were punished accordingly, i'm confused why you seem to think it was "unfair" of you to abuse a teammate and get punished for it
simple : i was getting abused.
: Chat Restriction unfairly
Now i find things like : IM Bula Bula "piece of shit" "trash" Asking for reports (useless and negative) Constant blaming "get carried noob" ETC. Totally. Legit. Own your toxicity. really funny, because, and i think thats actually why riot made it this way, you can only see what i wrote, but not what i got to listen to. none of you really got any qualification to say i earned my restriction because Riot made it impossible to have 100% of information. i also read something like : So you pinged with no follow up and then flamed, sounds reasonable. which is utter bullshit, if my midchamp is missing, and i ping he's missing as often as the game allows me too, i can expect the lane i pinged to, to retreat away from the enemy tower, so i can use the absence of my enemy, while the enemy wastes his time. but i get it, you are not the strategist kind of guy. i got flamed to for doing literally NO mistake, and had to get flamed hard, yet im the one getting punished for defending myself from false accusations.
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