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: Leaverbuster doesn't punish you for leaving one game. It punishes leaving behaviour, so my guess is that this isn't your first leave.
? What does that have to do with my situation? I didnt leave. My game crashed in the loading screen because the client said my files were corrupt. I wanted to reconnect ASAP but my team did a /remake (rightfully) because i couldnt connect to the game
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Solash (EUW)
: Well how do you expect the guy to get punished if you leave before you get the chance to report him?
Your logic implies the following: A guy is beating u in the face till he breaks your nose, but u gotta keep waiting for the police to come before u can do anything, like, for example RUN or fight back?
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Mystech (EUW)
: Well if you don't go sightstone you can't buy sweeper and you only have 2 wards compared to 5 late.
Lee isn't the ward cleaner, I go : Warrior Blue, Madreds, Cleaver, Hydra and finish off with spirit visage. Buying armor items on lee isn't efficient cause none of the items benefit his kit.
Mystech (EUW)
: Lee Sin with Warrior/Titanic Hydra
I would still go Ravenous on Lee because he is a quick Killer not a sustain tank in the current meta. I would go Tiamat and wait to see how game progresses, if enemy is behind, go Ravenous, if u are behind and need some more sustain and tanking with CC, go Titanic. Though I as a Lee main never buy sightstone because I find it to be wasted gold while u could spend 250 later at level 9 to get 2 trinkets with lower CD and instead buy more useful items.
Zaddok (EUW)
: Any evidence why this nerf is needed?
Sorry, couldn't reply, had to laugh. Are you serious?
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Omnus (EUW)
: Instead of cursing at your teammates, hang a punching bag in your room. Whenever you get an AFKer, a troll, or something else... Go to work on that punching bag. Make it wish it was never born (sewn?) 1) You will feel a lot better than you will through cursing at your teammates. 2) You can't get banned for punching a punching bag, because that's what it's there for.
Inb4 Riot bans me for afk punching bags 1 hour
xCillion (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=PinguinZo,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=XmhH3HlO,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2015-07-22T07:10:38.033+0000) > >I got banned cause of 1 game for 2 weeks Not exactly how it was, according to your own statement: > [{quoted}](name=PinguinZo,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=XmhH3HlO,comment-id=,timestamp=2015-07-22T06:54:32.357+0000) > > **I have cused many times**
> [{quoted}](name=xCillion,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=XmhH3HlO,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2015-07-22T07:12:58.234+0000) > > Not exactly how it was, according to your own statement: I have cused many times in that game, not in general. Sorry for the missunderstanding
xCillion (EUW)
: Baseline is however, that you admitted to flame and cuss alot!. Shaco might have had a bad day and done this once or twice. Does he deserve a ban for that? Not really, do you? Yes! There are many things you, and i, dont know about shaco's behaviour. But what we both know is that YOU deserved the punishment YOU got. Wich makes it pretty safe to assume he got the according one for his behaviour, if he shows it frequently like you did. Worry less about others, and more about your own behavior.
> [{quoted}](name=xCillion,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=XmhH3HlO,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2015-07-22T07:11:13.945+0000) > > Baseline is however, that you admitted to flame and cuss alot!. > Shaco might have had a bad day and done this once or twice. > Does he deserve a ban for that? Not really, do you? Yes! > > There are many things you, and i, dont know about shaco's behaviour. But what we both know is that YOU deserved the punishment YOU got. Wich makes it pretty safe to assume he got the according one for his behaviour, if he shows it frequently like you did. > Worry less about others, and more about your own behavior. U are not literally defending an intentional troll? He had a bad day? He pisses off 4 people in his team by I REPEAT; INTENTIONALLY GOING AFK and trolling the leaverbuster system while COMMENTING on the game 50 minutes long while we struggle to not lose? Well if he had a bad day and trolling is acceptable, why isn't my flame the same way treated? Can't I have bad days?
: It's very simple: There are rules that say that flaming isn't allowed. You agreed to keep these rules. You flamed anyway. You got punished for it. So yes, the punishment system actually did a good job, they did exactly what they are supposed to do. Nothing pathetic about it. I have no doubt that there is a reason why you got aggressive, but that doesn't change anything about that rule. You are not allowed to flame, no matter what. > And I bet Shaco was left unpunished The leaverbuster is probably the most effective player behavior system of all systems. Why? Because it's so simple. Someone doesn't do anyhting? ---> He is afk Somone moves in the same coordinates (for example the base) all the time ---> He is afk Somone just runs around without ever attacking anything ---> He is afk Somone.... What i want to say: It's basically impossible to trick the leaverbuster, except you actually play the game properly. It is extremely unlikely that an afk player doesn't get caught....especially in ranked, where the leaverbuster is stricter than in other gamemodes.
He typed. He buyed and resold items to trick the leaverbuster. He moved out of base to feed enemy team, then went back into base for 1 min before repeating the past steps. Leaverbuster is flawed and doesn't punish hard enough. I got banned cause of 1 game for 2 weeks while u can basically be punished by leaverbuster only after 3 games or even more cause there are many ways to delay it.
xCillion (EUW)
: Greetings. Do you really need me to point out you had toxic behaviour there? I dont think so.. You even said "I have even cussed many times, in my eyes rightfully so". Well, there you have the reason for your Ban. There is NO reason to flame/rage/cuss and whatnot other toxic behaviour, ever! Someone else starting it is no justification for you to get a "get out of jail free" Card. Shaco gets punished for his actions, and you for yours. That is how this works, he might have done this ONCE, you said you do this many times. There is your explanation. Have a nice day, and remember: "If you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all"
I don't care for my ban, what I care for is the unfairness and harshness of punishments. In the eyes of this game, it's worse to call someone , just for examplerary purposes, DUMB AND STUPID than having 50 minutes of your life taken away by a troll with nothing else better to do. Trolling which doesn't include feeding is basically left unpunished, as it's hard to track other than what the team claims to have happend and that is what bothers me. If Shaco would have got at LEAST 1 week ban for intentionally trolling, I would have even accepted a 5 month ban, but under these circumstances, our team giving him a win while he sits in base, comments and mocks us and our time and efforts, is under my sense of understanding and I do NOT pity such unsportsman behaviour towards the team. We had a feeding Nasus, nobody lost a word about him because it turned out he fed cause of bad game and not intentionally, but Shaco on the other hand was the best example of why ingame report system or something of that sorts NEEDS to be finally taken measures against
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