Pookyl (EUW)
: Banned ... !!!
Already got 4 games ... it's kind of funny to "troll" and see other players become angry, plus it's nice to report them in the end because they flamed. I do not talk in chat, i do not intentional feed, i do not help ennemy.. i just play my game .. alone, taking red when i want .. taking farm on lane when i want .. no rules, do not know how many people i'll be able to perma ban in a week ! But for what i know .. i'm unbannable .. :D, still i annoy many people. It's an other way of seeing the game.. and i got to say .. it's funny. Riot, you're increasing the numbre of non serious player with these policies, a new way of playing as born from it.... :D Ho .. just to be clear, i do that when they first flame .. ! Not with cool guys.
Pookyl (EUW)
: Banned ... !!!
In fact ... trolling is fun, i've just did 2 games.. i do not care losing anymore, just got 2 premade that tried to force me leaving adc lane for them... so they took heim supp, i said that i'll keep adc.. they insist and said that he will keep heim supp, i said nothing, the second one took a top champ... then i switched to tp and let them play bot... they lost their lane hard... was funny to watch them cry for jungler help. We lost.. but was fun, ho .. i said noting in chat.. nada .. but report them for intentional feeding : 1/14 is intentional right .. ?
Hansiman (EUNE)
: If a ban was 100% a mistake, it will be lifted. If the ban is within reason, then it won't be lifted. OP shows negative behaviour towards others in his logs, therefore it is a valid ban. A permaban appears after receiving multiple warnings regarding once behaviour, and ignoring all them. When a player chooses to not improve, Riot is left with no alternative.
Me neither, got 2 new accounts and i'll have fun now... no more try hard to win a game in ranked, no more attempt to try to explain to those guy how to buy vision or not pushing everytime.. no more. Will be simple .. i'll play.. and if ONE player flame, i'll just go fuck his lane... will be fun as hell, you know why ..? Cause i'll be on the other side now, i'll troll them.. they'll flame more and i'll report them .. hahahaahahahah, and they'll be banned .. so funny.
: You were quite toxic, you did flame them indirectly and you got a permanent ban which proves you did this across multiple games and ignoring previous warnings (2 week ban, chat restrict etc.) Simple said: You fucked up.
> [{quoted}](name=Robindino14,realm=EUW,application-id=eZuvYsEr,discussion-id=0byqIE4g,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2016-12-17T13:03:03.890+0000) > > You were quite toxic, you did flame them indirectly and you got a permanent ban which proves you did this across multiple games and ignoring previous warnings (2 week ban, chat restrict etc.) > > Simple said: You fucked up. Yea .. we are in a world where even saying "do not push that much, you already died 2 times, it's dangerous without ward" is considered toxic, cause you can hurt people ... even to a 4/17 Yasuo that got a brain of a potatoe, and it is not about the numbers, a guy can be 4/17 and still playing good... he was doing stupid things. Going to ennemy red without any ward tribush, river.. none, vision on jungler ... whatever. I got my accounts now, i'll enjoy them and .. fuck riot for their auto ban things.
Magatas (EUW)
: 5 afkers in 2 days
You're being negative .. i'm going to report you .. !! :D
Pookyl (EUW)
: Cause i suppose nobody but me reported them .. making their chat not poping up. Those things, ban, chat restriction happen when many players report you at the same time, not with one report. Many times i met premade saying : "you let xxxxx jungle or we all report you"... If only i say something negative or a small flame in game .. i'm fucked... cause my log will popup in their system .. (well i guess it will).
"Report numbers in the same match don't matter" Proof of that ? Cause my experience say the total oposite. Everytime i got a chat ban was after many players reported me. The thing seems to be even worst if ennemy report you. What some are used to (premades) by "trading" their report. So in the worst case, 2 premade team vs each other with in each team 2 non premade (flex is 4 premade max) then they can report you easily, and even better .. trade their report. I have more then 5k games and it happend to me a lot.
Prod0x (EUW)
: I mean i dont even think it was hard toxic but if u were afk and wait to let them end. This is my personal reason u got banned for this game.
I was not afk at all, check my level, i was not behind at all.
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
Cause i suppose nobody but me reported them .. making their chat not poping up. Those things, ban, chat restriction happen when many players report you at the same time, not with one report. Many times i met premade saying : "you let xxxxx jungle or we all report you"... If only i say something negative or a small flame in game .. i'm fucked... cause my log will popup in their system .. (well i guess it will).
: You don't need to be educated like that. With common sense you know that saying everything you feel like does not always lead to something good. And since telling that you are going to report someone only leads to something bad, it can also lead to a punishment. Not saying something doesn't make you hypocrite. Sometimes it's just better to not say anything. PS You don't really need to worry about your english. I don't have any problems understanding you.
Yea you're certainly right, but still ... i got banned, they're still playing, and for sure .. something is wrong about that. So they kept 2 flamers for a guy that said "i'll report you" .. ?! How is it supposed to help the game to be cleaner, cause... for sure those guys will flame again and ... someone else will be ban for saying "i'll report you" .. lol ..
: How do you defend yourself by saying this? Just reporting someone without saying you are going to report him has exactly the same effect, with as bonus that the situation won't escalete. Just calling something self defense doesn't justify your actions.
Cause perhaps you're the kind of people that do things without saying that you're doing those things .. well i was not educated like that, when i feel something i just say it and do it. Just for everybody to know what i think. I'm not in the hypocrit style. Ps : sorry for my english, not my mother tongue.
: Let's move your logic to real life. If tax evasion is harder to fight than stealing, does that mean we should rarely punish thieves?
Yea Riot (the police) put me in prison cause i said that i would report a stealer, Police said (Riot) you've been negative to the human race, i put you in jail .. seems fair ? The thing is that i've stolen let's say an apple to the tax evasion man who for sure as stolen millions of $, still .. even they got proof that the guy stole those millions will put me in jail cause it's easier to punish me ... for the apple. In real life it' s a non sense. It's kind of self defense, and even then .. ! I slapped nobody in the face, i just said that i'll report him and that i want the game to end, seems pretty cool as self defense.
: For some reasons i feel your hiding something idk.Maybe you used to be more offensive overall .
You got the chat log. I also asked to surrender 4 times, that not seen iin chat log.
: You were quite toxic, you did flame them indirectly and you got a permanent ban which proves you did this across multiple games and ignoring previous warnings (2 week ban, chat restrict etc.) Simple said: You fucked up.
> [{quoted}](name=Robindino14,realm=EUW,application-id=eZuvYsEr,discussion-id=0byqIE4g,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2016-12-17T13:03:03.890+0000) > > You were quite toxic, you did flame them indirectly and you got a permanent ban which proves you did this across multiple games and ignoring previous warnings (2 week ban, chat restrict etc.) > > Simple said: You fucked up. Yea i got warning already, for the same kind of case, trollers that make things badly and flame the jungler or support (i mostly play those roles) Allright, i'll just create an account to relax me and one to be serious. When i am flamed on the serious one i'll just go troll on the second one to relax me ... seems the way to go with this riot policy. Perhaps it feel good to troll other good and cool guys, i mean the one that try to do things the right way, i can't garanted that they will enjoy it .. but hey .. i'm not creating this unfair riot policy. Welcome teemo supp that never come bot and wait to last hit jungler buff, or teemo that stay all the time on lane to suck xp while doing nothing .. let's go ... I'll not talk in chat, i'll not break any rules .. still .. i would be a real pain in the ass like those players that make me "negative".. Does seems fine to riot policy .. but is it good for the player experience, for the game itself ? What i meant is that there are many way to be toxic while remaining within riot piolicy.
: There is an option to mute everybody in the game. There is no option to disable chat for yourself. Riot experimented with that in the past but it only resulted in players expressing their anger in other ways (leaving, intentionally feeding, trolling).
Well .. that's what i'm saying ... many are trolling and are not even "seen" by the system, while i talk a lot in chat i'm "seen" as negative while the bad attitude expressed in an other way by others is not. Making the system unfair, i did not deserve this ban, if my attitude was vs a cool guy that was saying "i'm sorry i'll get ward" so yea my chat logi would have been very toxic.. but it was not the case. When you judge something you got to have all parts of the exchange or your judgment will certainly be twisted, unfair. So you confirm that a player can still troll max without being banned while being reported by all ... strange system. Intentional feeding is bad and can be reported, leaving too ... a "mute all chat" option would still be good. And at least those are not prone to personnal feelings. It's certainly easy to check automatically..(cause of death, death time)
: The chat logs you showed were not the most toxic chat logs that you can imagine, but this permaban is not the result of only this game, but the result of consistently behaving like this, after ignoring several warnings. Now you have come to the point where this is not tolerated anymore. While being positive in such situations is encouraged, you don't need to be positive to not get banned. Being negative however, is not allowed, as you could also have chosen to remain silent. Just like you, if other players consistently show the same behaviour as you did, they will be confronted with the same punishments as you. While you (almost) never know that a player got punished, I can assure you that the amount of reports a player gets is not important. One report per game weighs exactly as much as nine reports per game. So where did you get from that you need to support flame? You can also ignore it.
Still this seems pretty unfair ... like our society i suppose. So ... the game, cf Riot, encourage me to be positive by banning me ? Well that seems pretty agressive to me, where is their positivism ? I reported many many real toxic players, how did they rewarded me ? How dit they encourage my positivism ? When i carried games with my positivism and they gave me the Red, Green medal ... that also count for nothing ? This attitude from riot to suspend account while i'm being reported by trollers/flamers .. kind of annoy me. Where is the option to disable chat ? I want to disable chat completly ... i do not need it, ping is enought to me. So ... if a player want it, he can never use chat .. ping like mad the whole game, being reported by all .. and since he never used chat will never be banned, is that right ?
Pookyl (EUW)
: Banned ... !!!
I'm perma banned. I was negative ... well allright, a little, .. take my game and try to be positive, 0 ward on map but mine (ok from time to time a ward here and here), i got no idea where the ennemies are... ! i can't even play, i can't plan anything, when to go to drag when to go top ... etc. I broke the rule for being negative .. while they flamed me ? Ok ... they are banned too ? certainly not .. why ? Because they both certainly got one or 2 reports while i received certainly more then 4 ... (Yasuo, Morga, Jinx (morga friend) and ennemy team).. so yea .. fair system .. ! That's how it work ? If you're not the bitch of them you're banned ? ANd still you need to support their flame ?
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