: You can report them after the game if you play it. Riot can check the pre/post game lobby chats, just mention it in the report. Personally, I'd just give them the role. Let them do as they please and report them after the game.
AFAIK chat logs only get examined by an actual person if a player is flagged for a temp or perm ban. Majority of punishments are handled completely by an automated system, Riot employees only start investigating chat logs of repeat offenders. My experience tells me that a lot of toxic players fly just below the radar because they are toxic in pre/post game chat but don't act toxic enough in-game to attract attention from the automated system. I could be wrong about that tho.
: It's so frustrating when you destroy an inhibitor turret and you know that in 5 seconds half their team is up with homeguard but your teammates start hitting the inhibitor even though you have reached your retreat ping cap and your finger hurts
> [{quoted}](name=ZoumeroBiftekaki,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=8aLndyai,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2016-04-06T19:21:26.723+0000) > > It's so frustrating when you destroy an inhibitor turret and you know that in 5 seconds half their team is up with homeguard but your teammates start hitting the inhibitor even though you have reached your retreat ping cap and your finger hurts IKR. You get the inhib turret, you recall because you see the enemy team is almost back up, no one else recalls, they all get caught and die, enemy team takes baron. "omfg why recall you give them free baron" Yeah. It was ME who gave them the free baron. Right. -_-
Mr Naekh (EUW)
: All right all right, venting yup, I'm salty
I have an absolute mountain of salt as I'm on a SEVEN game loss streak. I've gone from Silver 1 with 70LP to silver 2 with 18LP and there has been literally NOTHING I can do in any of my games. For example in my last game my entire team have gold borders and yet they die literally 5+ times before 20 min mark. Vayne 9 deaths, Morgana 13 deaths, Yasuo 15(!) deaths in a 30 minute game, and most of them barely did more than 10k damage! Bunch of account sharing boosted accounts I swear down. And don't get me started on a game I had earlier where a pantheon on my team decides he's going to build FULL tank, building ninja tabi and deadmans plate vs.... Ekko. Or the guy who picks Irelia into Zed mid and rushes a quicksilver sash as his first item. I swear I've been a magnet for these people it makes my piss boil.
3rd Age (EUW)
: any reply from RIOT on it? i'm curious ;D didn't know you can submit a ticket for that
> [{quoted}](name=3rd Age,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=TPVtJOBo,comment-id=00070000,timestamp=2016-03-30T07:40:20.798+0000) > > any reply from RIOT on it? i'm curious ;D > > didn't know you can submit a ticket for that Just the generic automated response of "thanks for your feedback, Riot takes elo boosting very seriously we will look into it but we can't tell you if any action will be taken because of privacy blah blah blah"
: My IRL friend paid for an elo boost and started bragging about climbing, so I investigated...
Funnily enough just after posting my last message I get a Yasuo on my team, 200+ CS, 15+ kills in 20 mins fighting 1vs3, 1vs4 and 1vs5 with mechanics way above what you see in silver. Totally legit play from an account that was in BRONZE division back in Jan/Feb. Yeah. And yes I am submitting a ticket to Riot to investigate the account, because my ethics are consistent.
: My IRL friend paid for an elo boost and started bragging about climbing, so I investigated...
Yes you should report elo boosting to riot at every opportunity. Elo boosting ruins the soloQ experience for everyone. Firstly it sucks to be the person/team who gets stomped on by the booster. Secondly it sucks when the real owner of the account starts playing again because they are not good enough to stay at their rank and their team mates suffer. It's not even like Riot need a complex system to identify an elo boosted account because 99% of the time elo boosters use specific high mechanics/snowball champions EG. Lee sin or Yasuo.
: The raging flamer suddenly expects to be treated fair..... ............................................................................. Anyhow, are you aware that many people here have quite the knowledge about the bans. And while i am not up to date with the system, i am 99% that the story as you tell it didnt happen. If you are the 0.1% of permabanned people who got punished falsly, you should contact support and be patient.
> [{quoted}](name=Luzifer XIII,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=LAVpUteE,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-03-15T00:15:40.374+0000) > > The raging flamer suddenly expects to be treated fair..... ............................................................................. Yes, the whole concept of a justice system is that it treats everyone fairly. Not surprising that Riot and the community at large seem to miss this very basic concept.
Armakar (EUW)
: What makes toxic people toxic.
Figuring out the reason why this game is so toxic is not rocket science. LoL is a "team" game, except your "team" is 5 complete strangers with potentially zero communication or cooperation. Even though there are 5 of you it only takes 1 guy to completely destroy any chance of winning, which makes people feel powerless, and powerlessness is one of the worst feelings you can experience. Lets use my last game as an example. Our 5th pick locks in "leblanc support" and ofc first item is dark seal. The "support" competes with the ADC for CS, pushes the lane unnecessarily, and gets caught out repeatedly. As a team we are forced to put up with a 5th player who not only fails to fulfill the role required of them, but actively makes it harder for our other players to fulfill their roles as well. It wouldn't be so bad if this person was some kind of autistic savant at playing leblanc but no... he's played less than 10 ranked games as leblanc since season 3. THESE are the people that cause the toxicity and Riot wont do a damn thing about it and the worst thing is these players KNOW IT.
Jökër (EUW)
: More trolls than ever?
it's lose/lose. If you "be a hero" and dodge in champ select, you save one team from the troll but then he gets to instantly queue up again with no penalty and troll a different team, so you don't really save anyone. If you don't dodge then they ruin your game and even if they get 9x reports nothing happens for months because Riot are fucking useless.
wolf5659 (EUW)
: Riot and their retarded matching system
The bottom line is that if you want to raise yourself out of bronze, silver and sometimes even gold you have to literally play as if you are 1vs9. As a player who was bronze in season 1 and has only managed to peak at gold 1 in season 4, this has consistently been my experience.
: One has absolutely nothing to do with the other, though. Someone is acting disruptive, trolling/AFKing at fountain/intentionally feeding? Then you report them and they get banned. You flame whilst doing so? Then both of you get banned. It's a simple equation. Riot aren't saying flaming is worse than disruptive behavior. Riot are saying disruptive behavior **isn't an excuse to flame. ** If you flame them, all you achieve is that BOTH of you get banned. Because BOTH of you deserve to be.
> [{quoted}](name=Hide on küsh,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=wNdEs9EF,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2016-02-27T17:41:35.930+0000) > > One has absolutely nothing to do with the other, though. > > Someone is acting disruptive, trolling/AFKing at fountain/intentionally feeding? Then you report them and they get banned. I'm specifically kept tabs on certain players who I know for a fact are intentional trolls. I've watched certain players continue for MONTHS with no penalty, while people who flame get dealt with very quickly because the system automatically picks up on key words and they can be auto-banned without any human input necessary. There are even certain streamers who have been intentionally trolling for who-knows how long, people have even posted links to their streams on these boards and what does Riot do about it? "NO NAMING AND SHAMING ITS AGAINST OUR POLICY". But anyway, you completely failed to address my point. Someone is mean to me in chat? Muted, problem solved. Someone is trolling me in game? I have to put up with it. Reporting someone after the game is trying to shut the stable door after the horse has bolted. It doesn't change the fact that my game has already been ruined. Riot focus super-hard on people who flame and rage because it's easy to ban them and it makes it appear that they're solving problems, when really they're solving nothing that using the MUTE function doesn't already fix.
Goofle (EUW)
: Disgusted.
"doesn't matter what happend ingame. all that matters is how you behave." And this is the crux of the problem. Riot is more concerned with hurt feelings and harsh language than genuinely disruptive game-play. Someone saying mean things to me that hurt my feelings? Muted, problem solved. Someone trolling, AFKing, or just generally playing in a way that directly decreases my chances of winning? There is no way to avoid that.
Olucaron (EUNE)
: A Day in the Life of a Bronze Player Trying to Climb.
Getting out of bronze is pure hell. I started playing ranked in season 1 back when bronze was the top 25% and I barely qualified for a bronze icon and it took me most of season 2 to finally reach silver+. The harsh truth is that bronze players are bad. Really bad. So if you want to be not bad, you have to get good, but not "just" good, you have to get good enough to literally drag 4 retards, who often don't even want to win (like the volibear you mentioned) to victory all by yourself. It's absolutely NOT fair that you have to get good enough to do this, but that's the way it is in bronze, and most of silver too. Be honest and ask yourself if you think you have the time and effort needed to do this because if you don't it's a waste of time. Pick a champion that snowballs hard Learn how to consistently CS Learn best jungle/gank routes if jungling Push, push, push lanes and don't stop 'till you reach the nexus Objective control and team fighting are a waste of time in bronze, trying to successfully team fight in bronze is like trying to herd cats. "Focus the carry!" is the typical "wisdom" you will get in bronze division where team fights just involve everyone trying to dog-pile the enemy carry and no one pokes, peels or supports for each other. There's no point taking baron if your team doesn't know when to commit to it or when to bait it, and then you get baron but get aced straight afterwards. In my experience it wasn't until mid-gold division that I could start trusting my team mates to actually work as a team. Ignore people who tell you elo hell is not real. It's very real, but it exists across multiple leagues and multiple divisions in different forms. There is elo hell in bronze, silver, gold, plat, even diamond. Get used to it. Ignore people who try to use statistics to prove that your games have less trolls, AFKs, feeders etc. Statistical significance requires big sample pools of numbers. Being told that the number of AFKs and trolls balances out after "thousands of games" doesn't help when you only play at the weekend, and only play 100-200 games a season. When you can only play 5 games today and 3 of those games have AFKs/trolls that has a HUGE impact on your climbing progress, especially if it happens in promotional matches. This is why I said you need to literally be able to carry the whole game by yourself in bronze, so that even when you get a bad streak of AFKs/trolls you can still pull out some wins.
: Why are there only "Threads", about the toxic players and why not about the "unskilled players?"
Riot wont do anything to address this because they're a bunch of social justice warrior cuckolds. Their primary concern is to make League of Legends into a "safe space" where no one feels "threatened" or "hated". Expect to see "micro-aggression" and "transphobia" as updates to the support system soon! :^) Compromising someone's gaming experience by hurting their feelings is not acceptable, but compromising gaming experience by being a turbo-shitter and refusing to learn basic game mechanics after hundreds of games, is strongly encouraged.
Arsene (EUNE)
: My predictions came true
First impressions of the new system are not good. In season 5 I was comfortable enough playing support to fill in if necessary. My win rate was sub 50% as supports but high enough on other roles to continue to climb. The problem is that if I pick support or "fill" as my secondary role, I WILL end up playing support 100% of the time. My primary role is completely irrelevant. Since I don't want to play support 100% of the time, my only option is to remove it from my role choice completely and NEVER play support at all, but then I become part of the problem.
multriple (EUNE)
: Where you can report player for ELO boosting?
I've encountered so many boosted accounts in the last month but I stopped reporting them because I am tired of getting bullshit automated responses from support that make me feel like I'm just getting brushed off. It's like their match history is mostly support champions with the occasional mid champion, terrible CS, terrible KDA, terrible win ratio... all of a sudden they're playing Yasuo/Riven/Zed/Vayne, their average CS has tripled and their summoner spells have been changed to different key bindings. It doesn't take an expert to identify that these accounts are getting boosted. Unfortunately every one of these accounts that I played with are still active and still climbing, I'm assuming that IF(!) they do eventually get banned, they'll get banned in a wave. Unfortunately that doesn't prevent them and and many others like them from shitting up ranked soloQ for everyone else.
: When you have noobs teams do this.
>Cuz i fuckin suck and don't sit down to improve to gtfo from that division. I've spectated enough games to understand that there are plenty of retards even in Diamond. There is no escaping "elo hell". If you are Bronze 5, you are in elo hell. If you are Diamond 1, you are in elo hell. I will freely admit that I am nothing special at this game, I make mistakes and play badly all the time. However these last 2 weeks I've been matched over and over again with teams who are uncarryable because from the second they loaded into champion select they were already making decisions that would lose them the game. Picking champions they have no experience on, picking champions they have a very bad win rate/KDA on, picking champions that get counter picked HARD, picking champions that have no synergy with the team etc. Ironically the reason I've struggled to get to platinum this season isn't because of silver or gold players, it's platinum players. The majority of my losses recently are caused by some plat 5 shitter with a 40% win ratio and silver low/med gold MMR feeding hard and/or going AFK. I climbed from silver 5 to gold 1 with an almost 60% win rate, only to drop back down to gold 3 with my win rate tanking down to 51-52% and it's still dropping, because of players that are in HIGHER divisions, not lower.
Srepy (EUW)
: for me it looks like they are doing the patch notes for the pros/lcs but not for the other 6000000 player. pls where is ad fizz plaey but in pro scene? and with these fllowing champs its the same look at the winrate from azir in pro scene and in <paltin ? or rek sai? and kalista and maokai too that are all charaktars who are strong right now in pro scene but not for the casual playerbase :/
> [{quoted}](name=Srepy,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=cs1fIZEc,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2015-09-01T21:02:19.141+0000) >pls where is ad fizz plaey but in pro scene? I see AD fizz in high gold/low plat all the time. Ofc most people at this elo suck with him but that's besides the point.
Bombardox (EUW)
: Who the hell buys poacher's ?
I tried it a few times but it's not worth it for low elo soloQ. Teams in bronze/silver/gold don't place deep wards so often you only know where the enemy jungler is when he's ganking a lane, which means counter jungling is too dangerous and inconsistent.
: I just played on a silver smurf EUW account...
I am slowly coming to the conclusion that EUW is the cesspool of the LoL community. It's like LoLs version of Tumblr.
Rioter Comments
: Darius is op cause of the new items
Despite his low win rate he's still in the top 10 most banned champions for the top lane position in Platinum+. Something to think about.
: Small buff Idea for Nocturne
Nocturne is a sick-nasty duelist in the early game, he has solid clear speed and his gank potential ranges from "good" pre-6 to "god tier" post-6. Really the worst thing you can say about him early game is that his sustain is mediocre. The main problem is that he falls off the longer the game goes on for, and in bronze/silver/gold teams have problems closing games. Nocturne has a bit of an identify crisis in that he is neither an assassin nor a bruiser, he's kind of in between but despite that he performs incredibly well, it wouldn't take much to push him into being FOTM.
: How about we delete Cho, Shyvana and Nocturne instead, would you like that? http://matchhistory.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-history/EUW1/27518887 I guess not, so good bye.
> [{quoted}](name=franticFurball,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=bgrnKUBe,comment-id=0000000000000001,timestamp=2015-08-30T06:31:25.922+0000) > > How about we delete Cho, Shyvana and Nocturne instead, would you like that? > > http://matchhistory.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-history/EUW1/27518887 > > I guess not, so good bye. 16 games on Cho, 3 on Shyvana you think I'm bothered about those champions? LOL. I honestly wouldn't care if Nocturne was deleted from the game, since he is the definition of mediocre in the current meta. If I really wanted to abuse broken champions there are plenty of other junglers I could play.
Warderino (EUW)
: Exactly this. Also take their yasuo and Riven and they'll jump on yi and vayne and do the same, saying they are "mains". So you'll ask to delete those champs too...
> [{quoted}](name=Warderino,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=bgrnKUBe,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2015-08-30T00:16:03.480+0000) > > Exactly this. > > Also take their yasuo and Riven and they'll jump on yi and vayne and do the same, saying they are "mains". So you'll ask to delete those champs too... That sounds like a good idea.
Rioter Comments
: what the fck is wrong with ranked matchmaking
I've been really struggling over the last few days, I've climbed pretty quickly from silver 5 to gold 2 but it feels like Riot have just flipped a switch and said "nope" to me climbing any higher. In the last 2-3 days I've been matched against more elo boosters than I've ever seen in 2-3 YEARS of playing, like the most obvious elo boosting you've ever seen where a 45% winrate high silver/low gold account will suddenly start playing Yasuo, get 300+ CS in 30 minutes and go 20/0. On top of that I seem to be a magnet for Plat 5 Riven/Vayne/Zed mains with shitty MMR who are on 10 game loss streaks, who just give first blood in 3 minutes and AFK because they're tilting so hard. I know I've just hit a bad streak and I just need to play through it and come out the other side, but when stuff like this happens I totally understand why people come up with conspiracy theories about match making.
: Again. We need 5 bans and 1 for each player
>There's a very high chance that the two ADCs won't be comfortable with any of the leftover picks. Miss Fortune? Draven? Not everyone plays these champions. So you're saying that an ADC must go bot lane? I thought Riot didn't enforce the meta? If someone can only play 1 type of champion in 1 lane position, what are they even doing playing ranked anyway. What you call "ban abuse" I call "strategic banning" and an example of the PLAYERS creating a meta shift. Not that anyone is going to waste all their bans on ADCs anyway when the majority of bullshit champions are in top/mid/jungle.
eXp1re (EUW)
: Rito giving anyone else retard teams?
* match making gives me some good teams * get a nice 4 game win streak to get me into promotion matches * suddenly matched with players with sub 45% win rates, elo boosted accounts etc. * enemy team always has a diamond smurf on it I don't think I've ever successfully won my promo matches the first time I get to them, because this always happens. Usually takes at least 2 attempts.
kubasvaton (EUNE)
: Matchmaking
I'm sure Riot intentionally do this to make promotion matches feel more "challenging". My flat mate just failed her promos to gold 5 because literally 3 of her team mates had less than 20 ranked games played and all decided to play new champions for the first time. Enemy team were all gold 4-5 players with 100-200+ games played in their division playing on champions that had lots of experience with. Was a horrific game to watch.
: Azir or Zed?
>I am gold V right now but i wanna master someone that i can also play in diamond. Look here's the thing, you have lots of games on assassins/snowball champions but your win rate has pretty much plateaued at 50%. Even though you have a high number of average kills per game you also have a high number of deaths and poor assists. This leads me to believe that you probably win your lane, then throw hard and contribute very little to team fights. If you were actually capable of playing these high mechanic hypercarries to a respectable standard, you'd already be in diamond instead of slumming it with the rest of us in gold. Instead of trying (and failing) at being the next Faker on Azir or Zed... focus on playing champions with easy mechanics but high rewards. Annie is a classic example, not only is she super easy to play and super powerful, she shuts down many popular pics like Ahri. Focusing on the champions with simple mechanics will help you climb 100x faster than focusing on hypercarries and high mechanics champions.
TheDax123 (EUNE)
: Tell me that elo hell doesn't exist
If your definition of elo hell is getting trolls, feeders and AFKers then I have some bad news for you, elo hell exists from bronze 5 all the way to masters.
SKT Apathy (EUNE)
: The Most toxic players in SoloQ is DuoQers.
Very rarely someone will ask me to duo with them. No matter how nice they seem, no matter how politely they ask, no matter how well they played in our game together, I always refuse and this is precisely why. I only duoQ with people I know personally.
Beschgi (EUW)
: Safe Picks
My main role is jungle so if I don't get that I'll take.... Top: Cho'Gath - Easy CSing, insane harassment, tanky as hell, incredible scaling. Singed - Constant map pressure regardless of how far behind you get. Mid: Cho'Gath - see above. ADC: Tristana - Easy CSing and wave clear, good all-in potential, relatively safe, insane late game scaling. Support: Braum - Is very flexible, can be both aggressive or defensive depending on playstyle of your lane/matchup.
: >And what exactly prevented YOU from putting wards there? OK please explain how you would like me to ward my blue buff at 1:50 and still make it in time for Krug to spawn. I'd be really interested to hear how to cross from one side of the jungle to the other in exactly 5 seconds. A prime example of the sheer retardation that exists in yoloQ.
> [{quoted}](name=PorkusMaximus,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=NmItYIxp,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2015-08-24T06:40:47.573+0000) > > OK please explain how you would like me to ward my blue buff at 1:50 and still make it in time for Krug to spawn. I'd be really interested to hear how to cross from one side of the jungle to the other in exactly 5 seconds. > > A prime example of the sheer retardation that exists in yoloQ. >No, I expect that Meta (Most Efficient Tactic Available) is called that for a reason. Except that's not what meta means. Meta-gaming when referring to something like league of legends, means using knowledge taken from outside of the game and applying it to the game. For example there is nothing in the rules of the game that say that a 1/1/1/2 lane split is the optimal distribution of players. There is nothing in the rules of the game that say that the ADC and Supp should lane together at the bottom of the map while a mage champion goes in the middle lane. These things involve meta-gaming, because these tactics and strategies are devised using knowledge gained from outside of the games rules.
: One of the many reasons your Jungler hates you
>And what exactly prevented YOU from putting wards there? OK please explain how you would like me to ward my blue buff at 1:50 and still make it in time for Krug to spawn. I'd be really interested to hear how to cross from one side of the jungle to the other in exactly 5 seconds. A prime example of the sheer retardation that exists in yoloQ.
: Really? Look at Vayne, done? Now look at Tristana, see? much better, both laning and end game and escape and resets What does Vayne have over Tristana? 1 second invisibility Look at Ahri, done? Now look at Viktor, see? much better, wave clear, burst, siege, tower pushing, defensive tools What does Ahri have over Viktor? some mobility there's better picks. But Ahri is hot and Vayne is renown for her being hard to play and require good mechanics. So, players that want to prove themselves, play Vayne (and Riven) to show off their "mechanics". Which tbh, are better than mine. I main Ahri and I have issues landing charms :)) There's no way I can play Kalista or Vayne or Riven properly. But Tristana and Viktor are both more easy and better. Oh, and for top lane. There's GP and Fiora.
> [{quoted}](name=Serika Zero,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=pbNsbPWI,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-08-23T21:09:30.765+0000) > > Really? > blah blah blah blah Most played champion: Ahri. Nuff said.
: So if you dont get your season rewards.. What would you do?
I'd probably just stop playing. Not because I care about the ranked rewards, but because I cannot tolerate a business treating it's customers like children.
: Skarner 65.05% Win Rate in Platinum +
I didn't think he was that bad until I updated my item builds for the new patch and I must admit I was 100% wrong in thinking he was mostly OK. Absolutely broken, 100% pick/ban and freelo if you get him.
kidw (EUW)
: The new Patch... I hate it
This patch is absolutely fucking atrocious. It's like they've launched a beta patch for an entirely different game.
D1onys1us (EUW)
: Yes, BUT it would STILL be better to have them play those champs rather than other champs they play even worse. If someone is silver 2 and has 300 zed games and then like 20 orianna games, you'll have a higher chance winning the game if he's on zed even though in general you could state he's not a good zed, it's STILL his best champ. This player probably lacks completely other knowledge about the game preventing him from moving up.
> [{quoted}](name=D1onys1us,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=Ymo8jAUs,comment-id=001100000000,timestamp=2015-08-23T11:08:33.719+0000) > > Yes, BUT it would STILL be better to have them play those champs rather than other champs they play even worse. > If someone is silver 2 and has 300 zed games and then like 20 orianna games, you'll have a higher chance winning the game if he's on zed even though in general you could state he's not a good zed, it's STILL his best champ. This player probably lacks completely other knowledge about the game preventing him from moving up. Bad example because Oriana is another skill based champion. A champion like Annie or Cho'Gath mid though? I'd honestly prefer a 20 game Annie of Cho'Gath mid than a 300 game Zed. Those champions practically play themselves, they're point and click and very easy to 100-0 people with.
D1onys1us (EUW)
: Out of all the games I've ever played I actually never want to see these champs in my team: 1. Lee sin 2. Vayne 3. Riven 4. Yasuo UNLESS they actually main the champ hard. The average Joe just isn't good on these champs, they are pretty complex and very easy to be useless on. That being said if you actually SAID in champ select that you main riven hard and he still banned it THEN that's really dumb. The best people to have on your team are those who basically play 1 champ. If they getthat champ in their role, you're way more likely to win assuming everyone else is pretty much equally skilled as the enemy players. This is even more correct in high ELO from my experience.
> [{quoted}](name=D1onys1us,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=Ymo8jAUs,comment-id=0011,timestamp=2015-08-23T10:13:42.589+0000) > UNLESS they actually main the champ hard. The average Joe just isn't good on these champs, they are pretty complex and very easy to be useless on. You're missing the point. If these "Riven/lee sin/Yasuo/Zed/Vayne mains were actually good at their champions, they wouldn't be silver/gold/plat 5 with 500+ games. If your top 3 champions are Riven/Vayne/Zed (I see this combination way too often it hurts my very soul) and you've played hundreds of games and you're still a silver surfer, you're shit at playing those champions. Fact.
: Toxicity isn't the chat, it's the gameplay. Rito should recognise this.
SoloQ LoL should just be renamed to "Stress Simulation 2015". By the very design of the game, stress levels begin to rise in the first 5 minutes and it never really stops until the end of the game. When you look at the way the game is designed and how your average game plays out, it's absolutely understandable why some people feel the need to vent their frustrations.
: Somebody restrain me before I choke a laner to DEATH
Jungle is my preferred role and I feel you. Mid gives first blood before you've even picked up double buff? "worst jungle I ever seen I am fucking done with this game" And of course this comment comes from someone with 500+ games, an overall winrate of 45%, playing a champion with a 35-40% win rate. I've been lucky in that I often duo queue so I have at least 1 person in a lane I can rely on. For example I will regularly help my friend playing Irelia top to snowball and we just systematically push towers down. But no matter how fed I get my friend there's always some arsehole in another lane crying about the fact that they didn't get ganks... even if the enemy ganks are unsuccessful and a waste of time.
: they can just be smurfs? knowing the champions really well. i dont think what u are saying is hacking :) they just seem pretty good!
> [{quoted}](name=lookbehindyu,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=swUPXH1Y,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2015-08-23T00:11:00.777+0000) > > they can just be smurfs? knowing the champions really well. i dont think what u are saying is hacking :) they just seem pretty good! It's pretty easy to spot a player using scripts if you know what to look for.
: Why do I have to wait and lose LP to avoid a trollpick?
This issue always proves how ass-backwards the thinking of your average LoL player is. Dodging a game because of a troll = the troll wins Being forced to play a minimum of 20 minutes with a troll, with players forced into positions that don't want/can't play, with a team composition that is less than ideal = the troll wins Absolutely best case scenario is that you end up dragging the troll through a very frustrating game and eventually win, in which case you just carried a troll and rewarded them = the troll wins Yes in situation 2 and 3 the troll can be reported, but he still "wins" because he's disrupted your game and wasted your time. The troll always wins, if they were really worried or bothered about being reported they wouldn't do it in the first place.
Práedyth (EUW)
: banning riven becasue riven players are toxic..?
LOL all this salt from Riven mains. Too bad it's statistically proven that you are objectively the most obnoxious and "toxic" players in this entire game. Congratulations? LOL. >https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/2d2qiw/who_are_the_worst_leavers_in_league_of_legends/ That's awesome. Riven mains empirically proven to be the most likely to AFK in a game because they're baddies. Riven mains, Vayne mains, Zed mains. All baddies.
: I love all the babyies bitching about new skarner.
I don't really see what all the fuss is about with Skarner. Yeah he's a beast if you try and fight him around objectives that his team controls but he still has all the same weaknesses he always had, and QSS still makes him useless. Getting resets on his E in a hectic team fight is not a realistic expectation in my opinion, he's got all the same strengths and weaknesses he's always had.
Pronicito (EUW)
: Opinions about Gold
>And the only games I lose are because of trollers, afkers or feeders. Yeah I remember when I was still struggling to get out of silver and used to believe that. The truth is that you lose a lot of games because you're bad, and even if you get to gold 5 you'll only be slightly less bad. The good news is that you don't need to be "good" to climb out of silver, you only have to be the least-bad player in the game. The advice given to you about KDA is good advice that I don't think you should ignore. Sacrificing yourself for your team when you're silver is counter productive because you cannot trust your team to take advantage of your sacrifices. Play safe, play smart and snowball and do not throw away your life to give enemy shutdowns. You are obviously capable of getting lots of kills but when you die 8-10+ times in a game you're potentially giving the enemy team thousands and thousands of gold.
Práedyth (EUW)
: banning riven becasue riven players are toxic..?
>and only because i play riven im toxic? Yes. Riven mains are objectively the most obnoxious players in the game, closely followed by Vayne mains, Zed mains and any other assassin mains. If you own the battle bunny skin, get it refunded immediately and vow to never play riven again.
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