: it is not stealing. you got the rp riot got the money. contract closed. your account still has the rp, it is just unaccesable for you. that dosnt count as stealing as stealing would involve taking the rp from you. which they didnt.
Isn't removing the ability to access the money the same as taking it from you. For example you putting your money in a bank and the bank refusing to allow you to access the money. I'm not gonna argue on this because people like you never change your views.
: some one just tell me how can i not to get a premntly ban !
Riot will always find a way to ban you. No matter how nice you be, and what you say. Riot will ban you. I just got banned myself and i didn't even use any foul language. Riot report systems will always, always mess up. All it takes is a couple of trolls to report you and you lose your account. Thats what happened to. And all that happens then is riot steals money. I spent £20 on my account and they banned me not even a day after and i wasn't able to spend any of it. Riot will ban you, steal from you and make your life hell.
MrJossy (EUW)
: "Scared of Riot"
Ehhh. I usually don't like vaynes because they force people to have to play a certian way. Riot has always said they don't want but they still keep vayne in the game who is the prime example of forcing people for playing a certain way. But anyway. Ii don't riot cares anymore. Its clear that the game has turned into a money grab and they have done literally no productive nerfs in ages. If they wanted to help the players and make a friendly environment they would fix the broken and toxic champs. But they don't. They make it worse. Like what they did with illaoi. Made her so that she can become even more tanky and still keep her op damage for a tank. Not saying illaoi is broken but they would rather make a champion much harder to play against then actually fix all their problems. so long story short. Riot doesn't care.
: Riot, Ban-phrases and Ban-words are still popping up alerts, right?
The community in this game is awful and i don't think riot cares anymore. Yes junglers are actually the worst for it. You ask for a gank they insult you and then you lose the game because the jungler is a bad team mate. Honestly i don't think reported players should be allowed to play jungle. Jungle is a such a team oriented role and if all you get is trolls and flamers jungle your just going to lose because they will refuse to help every single time. And key words. "noob" "feeder" general insults and most annoying of all "Easy". People who use these need either a slap or a punch. But riot had made it very clear.... they don't care about the players anymore. The game has turned into a money grab. Eversince the release of the chests and they just don't care. Its the reason they refuse to fix fizz or vayne. Riot is officially bullshit. And they just won't do anything to help anymore.
Vionicesca (EUNE)
: Well, she does true damage also so building a ton of armor will only do so much. This is what you do against her: you bully the hell out of her in lane so she doesn't get farm and kills, then in teamfights you lock her down with CC and kill her/have your assassin take her out of the fight instantly. Supports like Nami work wonders against her because the ult is wide enough to knock her up even if she stealths.
But thats the issue. Riot has said they don't want a champ that forces the other team to play a certain way. That is what vayne does. She forces you to either play around her or lose. You can't pick a tank if they have a vayne and how is that fair. By picking vayne she instantly locks out a whole class for the opposing team and that shouldn't be allowed in itself.
: Well thats actually not true, as a Diamond Adc and especially Vayne Main I dont think she is OP or anything, I even avoid picking her in my Elo. She is very short range and can be punished in the lane very hard, since she really struggles in early and every other meta adc just shits one her (Lucian/Caitlyn/MF/Twitch/Ezreal). The Mid Meta is also about Control Mages and thats something not really good for Vayne, even if she can kite them really good later on, she literally gets 1 shotted by everything, due to no range and squishyness of doom. So I dont see Your Point there, maybe Your Adc played the lane really badly and/or you just had a inmobile comp with more tanks then actually damage Dealers, thats something were a Vayne can shine, but its really rare, that People pick too many Tank Champs instead of Damagedealer.
I miss presented my point. My point is that vayne as a champion. Just by being there forces people to play a certain way. Riot has always said they don't want to do this but vayne does exactly that. There shouldn't be one thing in the game that litrally forces you to either build a certain thing or play a particular or you lose.
: Oh, so you were playing THE EXACT TYPE OF CHAMPION THAT VAYNE COUNTERS THE HARDEST. Tell me more about how you can't win. On the other hand, somewhere, there is a Veigar main laughing his ass off every time he sees a Vayne. *Oh, Sion, dearie, have you been hurt? Let me press R. Now, she is dead, better? Don't worry. I'll never let her do that to you again* Sion is slow. Sion is clunky. All Sion's damage can be avoided. Vayne is quick. Vayne has short CD tumble that can dodge any Sion's abilities. Vayne has a disengage. Son, if you were the best player on earth and were 15 kills ahead, any decent Vayne would still destroy you.
I am saying that sion should win. Thats not my argument. My point is what is the point in armour. Armour is the only thing that is supposed to protect you from an adc. But armour is pointless now. Because of adcs like vayne litrally a whole type of champion is not allowed to play in the game and if they do they just feed out their ass to her. Riot always talks about making sure that people shouldn't be forced to play a particularly way or just be purely punished by selecting a role and that is exactly what vayne does.
: No way to stop a vayne.
I think most people here didn't realise my point so much. Welp if your not gonna see my argument there is not point arguing with all your invalid points.
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: > [{quoted}](name=Psychowings,realm=EUW,application-id=ETj6EdvQ,discussion-id=97rh8F33,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2016-06-11T01:03:42.237+0000) > > I did have something good to say but seeing as your name is "CriticalTroll" i doubt anyone is gonna take you seriously Do u even read your own comment? the only thing u did was throwing a cheesy ass comment "that is the most rage i have ever seen" lmfao of course i'm raging i lost fucking LP for a thing i wasn't responsible, now you throw shit at my name, yep only good things to say you got there.
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ViciouSnake (EUNE)
: Then i am $$$$, damn. Pretty Salty.And awesome at the same time. xaaxaxa JKJK {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
: > [{quoted}](name=Psychowings,realm=EUW,application-id=ETj6EdvQ,discussion-id=97rh8F33,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-06-11T00:25:28.680+0000) > > It is unlikely it was the client that was the issue more like ther was a problem on your end. > P.s. that is the most rage i have ever seen. Well done. If u don't have anything good to say than shut the fuck up.
I did have something good to say but seeing as your name is "CriticalTroll" i doubt anyone is gonna take you seriously
ViciouSnake (EUNE)
: Excuse me? if I go 22-2 Ezreal on ranked game, saying easy is punishable? then do you want me to say hard? worthy opponnent? Damn. I think its completely fine to say "good game, easy".
If you say easy it makes you out to be a %%%% to matter how well you did. If you did well in a game people will respect you. But as soon as you say easy every bit of respect they had turns to hate. Saying easy is the biggest middle finger anyone can do. Especially in ranked. If someone does it on my team i still report them. Just don't do it and save yourself the trouble.
: If someone say "gg easy" in all chat, he should get immediately permabanned
Everyone see's these assholes and no one in the game likes them. And while that would be a wonderful way to section out the douches of this game. There is no need to go that far.
: This client is literally fucking garbage
It is unlikely it was the client that was the issue more like ther was a problem on your end. P.s. that is the most rage i have ever seen. Well done.
D2O4M7 (EUW)
: [TEAM RECRUITMENT] LF DIA+ MIDLANER
18 English B3 None I am very well adapted to top lane, i main sion and volibear but i am also quite skilled mid with anvia and i have played anivia for longer. But i am a more reliable top. I play aggressive a lot. I know it isn't a good thing and can often go bad but it does pay off some of the time but when going into serious games i make a conscious choice to play safer when needed. I don't expect to you to take me, infact i would extremely surprised if you do. I was more hoping to get a nice learning experience. I may not play with the highest skill cap but i play logically. I try to make the best choice depending on the situation to help out in the long run. I never surrender since i believe almost every single game is winnable. With enough grouping and team work every single game, even when your nexus towers are down. Is winnable. If you don't take me i would understand completely and even if you do i would never expect to be allowed to be able to play a ranked game with you. I just want the opportunity to be able to learn from people who really know what they're doing instead of the flamers and troll who believe they know all at my level. Thank you for your time taken to read this and good luck in the rift.
Psolos3 (EUW)
: 18 Algerian d5 Not that much Any mid champion except swain Lane focus Well i'm the best midlaner there is.
Thats a pretty high assumption of yourself.
: > These posts are mass hated, mass down voted and all i seem to attract is the lower part of the community or people trying to protect themselves from criticism because they know they are part of the problem. In general I agree that downvotes on the boards are not exactly a healthy feature. It's problem I ranted about several times in the last few weeks: People value opinions over arguments. Instead of discussing ideas or thoughts, people just compare opinions. Do you share my opinion? Upvote! You don't? Downvote. The problem about this is that Dowvotes have two meanings that get mixed up: a) I don't agree with the opinion of this guy. b) I don't agree HOW he expressed that opinion. In a perfect world people would downvote threads that are unconstructive, badly written, toxic etc (i.e. meaning b) and they would show that they disagree with someones opinion by using arguments instead of downvotes. But in reality thats not how it works. It's so much easier to express your opinion by downvoting than writing down arguments. And thats the problem I see here: People put time and effort in a thread and then they receive downvotes. For them it feels like people spit on their efforts to make a constructive thread although people simply downvote it because the idea is not very good. For the OP its impossible to notice the difference because, of course, he thinks his idea is good. Lets take a look why YOU get downvoted: Some of your post get downvotes because they clearly lack quality. For example you frequently insult other players in your post, which is pretty much the worst way to start a constructive discussion and definetely deserves lots of downvotes. I am talking about stuff like this: > Screw you Savage. I will report and down vote every single one of your comments i see i am tired of your constant harassment. ___ > if your brain dead good luck to you. ____ > Anyone with a brain wanna play ____ > I'm not even gonna read it. Stop commenting. These are just things I found while taking a rough look at the your last 60 (out of ~300) posts. You got downvotes for all of these posts and you deserved that, because these posts are simply unconstructive and hostile. On the other hand you also get downvoted for expressing opinions people don't agree with. You think Xin is OP, most people don't. You think Riot made a mistake by nerfing Anivia, most people disagree. But I think your main source of downvotes is HOW you express your opinion. You seem a bit like a drama queen because you exaggerate massively, especially with your choice of words. You don't disagree with something or don't like it, you are "disgusted", a champion isn't mobile, he has "unlimited dashes", a champ doesn't have a above average winratio but he "wins for no reason in practically every game". In pretty much all of your downvoted posts you can find exaggerations like that while posts where you don't do that don't get downvoted. Long story short: While downvoting opinions is a general problem on the boards, you personal downvote problem is still mainly caused by yourself. Most of the times you get downvoted for either being offensive/unconstructive or for ruining your own arguments by exaggerating massively and making a big tragedy out of every tiny bit you don't like. Long story even shorter: Less QQ, less drama, less hostility, more being constructive ----> less downvotes
Matter of the fact is everyone, including you and me, everyone who play league is ignorant and biased. No one can say what is right or wrong no matter how much you think you are being even. You wasn't being even then because you was going out of your way to point out every single flaw whilst doing two things wrong. 1 you took things out of context, and two, you point out all the bad things without even mentioning the good. Me, i'm aggressive and i have very set opinions. Yes it is easy for me to see things in the right way but not if some just completely ignores me or just insults me without even readung my posts which was "Savage" was doing. Your entire posts comes down to putting all of the blame on me when you know that isn't the truth. You can't just put the blame on one person just because you think you know all the details. That is why, now when i make my posts i do one simple thing. I put down my opinions. And then let the community talk it out.
: > These posts are mass hated, mass down voted and all i seem to attract is the lower part of the community or people trying to protect themselves from criticism because they know they are part of the problem. In general I agree that downvotes on the boards are not exactly a healthy feature. It's problem I ranted about several times in the last few weeks: People value opinions over arguments. Instead of discussing ideas or thoughts, people just compare opinions. Do you share my opinion? Upvote! You don't? Downvote. The problem about this is that Dowvotes have two meanings that get mixed up: a) I don't agree with the opinion of this guy. b) I don't agree HOW he expressed that opinion. In a perfect world people would downvote threads that are unconstructive, badly written, toxic etc (i.e. meaning b) and they would show that they disagree with someones opinion by using arguments instead of downvotes. But in reality thats not how it works. It's so much easier to express your opinion by downvoting than writing down arguments. And thats the problem I see here: People put time and effort in a thread and then they receive downvotes. For them it feels like people spit on their efforts to make a constructive thread although people simply downvote it because the idea is not very good. For the OP its impossible to notice the difference because, of course, he thinks his idea is good. Lets take a look why YOU get downvoted: Some of your post get downvotes because they clearly lack quality. For example you frequently insult other players in your post, which is pretty much the worst way to start a constructive discussion and definetely deserves lots of downvotes. I am talking about stuff like this: > Screw you Savage. I will report and down vote every single one of your comments i see i am tired of your constant harassment. ___ > if your brain dead good luck to you. ____ > Anyone with a brain wanna play ____ > I'm not even gonna read it. Stop commenting. These are just things I found while taking a rough look at the your last 60 (out of ~300) posts. You got downvotes for all of these posts and you deserved that, because these posts are simply unconstructive and hostile. On the other hand you also get downvoted for expressing opinions people don't agree with. You think Xin is OP, most people don't. You think Riot made a mistake by nerfing Anivia, most people disagree. But I think your main source of downvotes is HOW you express your opinion. You seem a bit like a drama queen because you exaggerate massively, especially with your choice of words. You don't disagree with something or don't like it, you are "disgusted", a champion isn't mobile, he has "unlimited dashes", a champ doesn't have a above average winratio but he "wins for no reason in practically every game". In pretty much all of your downvoted posts you can find exaggerations like that while posts where you don't do that don't get downvoted. Long story short: While downvoting opinions is a general problem on the boards, you personal downvote problem is still mainly caused by yourself. Most of the times you get downvoted for either being offensive/unconstructive or for ruining your own arguments by exaggerating massively and making a big tragedy out of every tiny bit you don't like. Long story even shorter: Less QQ, less drama, less hostility, more being constructive ----> less downvotes
I get your point and yes a lot of my past posts have been trouble but i've gotten past that. If you read my xin post all i did was put my opinions down and let other people decide. That is one of my better posts. And you are specifically going look for bad things your only going to find bad things. Criticism is good but only if it is constructive, you can't just point out all the bad things in the case and call it constructive criticism. There are always multiple sides of the argument and no one can deem themselves worthy until they understand each and every part of it. And the matter of the fact with this "Savage" is that he was the one constantly harassing me and causing me massive distress. It may not seem like it to you but he was harassing me on purpose so my replies there was just to stop him. I reported every single one of his comments and riot did nothing since he constantly kept harassing me. Yes most of my older posts are bad but the key word is "Older". Everyone has a right to express their opinion and if people wasn't allowed to say anything just because of the way they present it that just becomes hypocritical. Yes my posts on anivia, yasuo are bad and the only reason i would specifically insult someone is if they went out of their way to insult me. If your going out off your way just to look at the bad things that isn't going to help anyone.
: Yes I see this a lot also, people post things and present as fact and are completely abject to other opinion, so why post on a public forum? And if you even disagree with their point they quote every section of your post and try and disprove/flame every part of it, look up your rank and recent games to criticize you more there (and of course if you aren't diamond you aren't allowed to have a valid opinion to them) along with mass disliking your posts etc. I see the same people do this over and over along with people throwing out death threats and what not. And a lot of the posts which will show at the top (with upvotes) are just silly things like 'fuck rito nerf zed' and meaningful posts which have constructive views are downvoted and people sheep to constantly downvote it. Makes this place really unappealing unfortunately.
Wow, i have to say you are one of the best commenters i have on these posts. Yeah i have done posts myself talking about op champs but not just complaining. What i usually do is say what i think is wrong with the champ and then let other people have their opinions on what could be done or to agree or disagree with my opinions. Those are by far my most popular posts. But when i make posts more specifically about players or certain behaviours or in an extreme case complaining at riot itself saying exactly what i think they are doing wrong. These posts are mass hated, mass down voted and all i seem to attract is the lower part of the community or people trying to protect themselves from criticism because they know they are part of the problem. But let me make something clear. I respect riot, league of legends is the most played single game in the world. And overall it is a "free" game. Its not pay to win. Its a clean game but riot... a lot of the time they go back on their own principles a lot and thats what i take a stab at. I'm made posts about how riot treats many players unfairly and how they say they don't want to make a champ frustrating to play against or somewhat unfair yet they make put yasuo's wind wall in the game, even saying that that ability is somewhat unfair, yet the counter argument it is a fun ability for yasuo players to use. I'm not saying that is a big issue but my point is, riot has a long history of going back and causing more trouble for the players of the game when they say they won't. And i'm not going into the argument of solo queue because i haven't been here long enough to comment on that.
: Well yes i know riot would NEVER do it, but it is just a suggestion... And we only have 3 TOKENS and i'm only asking for ONE token a season.. Only one. So riot would not make less money, since you already bought it and the money is in their system already, all you get is RP.. A game money.
Its a good suggestion and i would be a nice idea but riot isn't what it used to be. Riot get taken over by another company, forgot its name, but the fact it its a full company now and your not gonna see the same perks you will get in smaller companies or games.
Tet2 (EUW)
: The biggest issue I see everyday is people who post ideas they believe as if they were a fact and take arguments from authority way too serious without any merit.
Actually i really get you there. And some people take offense in things that are just criticism. Yyes while it sometimes be harsh and not needed but i do get your point.
: EUW down again????
If you play in Eu you have to expect this. Its the server Riot just doesn't care about.
: Refund Tokens
Its an nice idea but i doubt riot would actually do that. Their a company and while yes its a free game you can see it becoming more and more of a money grabber. The first clue of this. Hextech chests. So doing something like this would cause people to spend less money becayse they can refund the champs or skins they bought with Rp and just get another one when riot could stop that and force them to spend more money if they want more stuff.
: The Flamer population seems really a bit like Dead-pants this Times
I think these people have found different ways to ruin people's game experience. Not many flamers are around and the ones who are take it to he next level. But i think trolls are more common than flamers now. People who don't rage but still want you to have the worst game experience possible and they are the biggest problem i think now.
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archerno1 (EUNE)
: Riven is not OP. She maybe used to be but for last 4-5 months she is very weak.
depends how good you are at her. But my confusion still remains
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: Hey Psychowings (EUW), i would be pleased to play a ranked game with you if you are interested ^^. i dont know if you want to play with me bc i only am S4 but maybe it would be fun :D. have a good evening and Gl & Hf on Summoners Rift {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
Sounds great. I don't care about ranked i mean i can't say shit i am bronze 3 because of my luck in teams. I would love a game
: {{item:1412}} {{item:3071}} {{item:3074}} {{item:3078}} {{item:3072}} {{item:3158}} Cause fuck tanks
thanks. i assume build in that order except for the boots.
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zZiBBiZz (EUW)
: People feeding every 2nd game and u people cry about some players calling u noob U can mute but u can't stop feeder
If your gonna make a comment atleast make it half useful and not just troll.
: You've been punished for what exactly?
I was banned 4 weeks ago for feeding on purpose and calling myself.. well terrible things because of the amount of abuse i got in one game. And its happened more than once so now riot hates me. I also attempted suicide when i got banned for the 3rd ttime for this reason
: >And that can lead to various punishments from riot. No. As already said playing badly isn't punishable unless done intentional. And "practically being afk"you probably mean not engaging and stuff and no actually being afk, so yeah thats also not gonna be punished, it's called playing safe and is a legitimate play style. Just because xXDunkLordDarius2011Xx said he'll report you for feeding doesn't mean you plaiyng bad is a valid offense in ritos eyes.
Well please explain that to riot because that has happened to me multiple times.
Father Tios (EUNE)
: I know what depression is, thank you very much. And there is still no reason why it would prevent you from muting someone, or optionally, everyone.
Well that sentence just proved to me that you don't fully understand. I don't expect you to understand.
Hansiman (EUNE)
: > I'm not asking for a whole redo in the report system. (Even though that could be better) I'm just wondering if there is something riot can do to atleast support the players if not just stop punishing them for an issue which is out of their control. Can you provide me with an example of how the report system is punishing you in this case? Reports only lead to punishment if the reported player is consistently breaking the rules. False reports will never harm your account.
When a depressed person finds a flamer in game 3 things can happen. The good option: Your a good mood and you just don't care. The meh option: You get kinda annoyed and either have a mini argument which is the most probable option or you mute them. Or the bad option: You get fully depressed your game play sinks into practically being afk or feeding and all that happens is people blame and flame at you more until you actually want to kill yourself. And your not allowed to leave the game so your forced to sit through 20-40 minutes for people harassing you full on. Now obviously the meh option and the bad option can both have serious effects on your account because 90% of the time your going to get reported for something that is 100% out of your control. And that can lead to various punishments from riot.
Fang (EUNE)
: When you have a depression, you're often more sensitive to words than the average person would be; if the game worsens your condition, or makes you suicidal for that matter, you really shouldn't be playing it - your well-being is your own responsibility. (Don't get me wrong, it's not your fault that you feel the way you do at all, but you shouldn't insist on exposing yourself to something that doesn't suit your needs right now) You can't blame Riot for what you may or may not do, due to what a player said or did. I totally understand that the game might be important to you because you're attached to it in some way, but if there are days where it makes you feel worse about yourself, or if it does so in general, finding a game with a more relaxed environment would be a good idea. I have quit a game for a period of time, because it pushed me far over the edge. Lillia's suggestion was good too.
Excellent. I realise my idea will be biased but that is obviously expected. That is why i suggest for other people to make suggestions rather than making my own. And yeah i do take breaks once in a while. Its good for me. But for someone with no life which i practically have no life a the current moment. "my situation with my view on life changes every month" Having something to grip onto is actually better than doing nothing. And while league of legends isn't the most healthy thing. Its something that people can at least hold onto until they find something better. ..... i don't know if any of that makes sense or not
Father Tios (EUNE)
: Depression does not mean you can't do this... You should take the stance to mute any and all negative feedback, towards anyone. Justified or not.
Depression is not simple sadness or an idea. It is life. It is a forced way of life on someone. They practically have no control over it what so ever. So yes it does sometimes actually mean "you can't do this".
Bugaboo (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Psychowings,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=6tZHNMup,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2016-05-01T16:52:25.153+0000) > > Seems like a great idea and i understand riot is a company and they don't really care until it starts affecting their numbers in a considerable way. But i was also thinking that they could put in a system that makes it less punishing for people. Because the last thing someone needs when they're fully depressed is riot banning them because the very people who abused them and told them to kill themselves reported them and got them banned. The problem is Riot can't tell who these people are. They aren't miracle workers who can magically know which players are suffering from depression and the like. Sadly you have to work on the assumption that these people are all just to be treated the same. If they make it less punishing, then the system will be less effective, meaning more flames, meaning it gets harder. Sadly that's why the only suggestion I can really give is a League Support Group. Honestly I'd so be up for it.
Yeah i actually believe that. And to think that riot would actually put the time in to make a system or to try and isolate these people from the rest of the public is stupid because they won't care or won;t have a good enough reason to think about it. So the support group is the best option or idea we have of now. Unless someone else comes up with a viable option.
Hansiman (EUNE)
: > There are players out there like me with depression and issues which make it difficult or even impossible to deal with the flamers. And as soon as the flamers break through our defensive walls. People like me lose the will to play. Lillia makes a very good point in regards to this: This isn't really something that Riot has a responsibility over. This is something that needs to be done by professionals that can handle your case personally. If you're going through periods of severe depression, you should reach out to someone you know, or potentially a psychiatrist who can help. Riot is a game company, and their responsibility on the matter is to try to limit the amount of verbal abuse we encounter as much as possible, but they won't be able to prevent it from happening ever, or to identify those that may be more sensitive to such behaviour. --- > You may think "Oh there's a mute button so there shouldn't be a problem. " But people like me won't mute the people who harass them. The mute button isn't an excuse for people to verbally abuse others; it's there so players like you and me who don't want to see abusive behaviour can limit the amount we see. If you're having issues dealing with people verbally abusing ingame, I honestly don't see why you wouldn't mute them straight away. It's not worth it to see what they write, so just remove their ability to get to you. I use the mute button towards people being derogatory, even if it's not directed at me; I simply just don't want to give them any of my attention, because they don't deserve it. --- > If you think it is right to punish these player who play badly just because you think its just a cry for attention then you don't understand what it means to have an issue of this degree. Nobody has ever been punished for playing bad. Players can get punished if they're **intentionally** playing bad with the intent to ensure their own team loses the game. That is very different from having a bad game and performing poorly. And yes, that includes performing poorly due to being verbally abused, because you're not intentionally doing it to lose. --- > So now to the point. Riot neglects these players. There is nothing in the game which helps them and the way that their system is set out riot actually causes more pain to depressed players than good. Riot isn't directly neglecting these players, because the very essence of their behaviour systems is to counter the behaviour you're having a problem with. But as a gaming company, it's still limited as to how much they can reach out and help you personally. --- To itterate; if you're dealing with depression in real life, you should consider seeking out a professional about it. They're there to help.
I understand where your coming from you made very valid points. And while riot has no obligation to help, if they ignore it the issue will become worse and could potentially affect riot heavily in the future. Many people do harm themselves and in worse cases do actually attempt suicide. While riot isn't directly responsible that can only be used as a cover for so long and the amount of people doing this will get higher and higher until it affects riot in a serious manner. I'm not asking for a whole redo in the report system. (Even though that could be better) I'm just wondering if there is something riot can do to atleast support the players if not just stop punishing them for an issue which is out of their control. Yes muting is an effective way of blocking out the issue but people with depression like myself just have the inability to do that because we believe we deserve the abuse and then start abusing ourselves. So yes while muting is an option for those with the ability to shrug off what people say or a lack of care. But depression isn't just sadness. Its a state of mind and it alters the way you think... it isn't just getting upset over little things.. thats not depression. Depression is a forced way of life. That is extremely difficult to change. Yes people should seek help and yes i have. But it doesn't change. Sometimes i takes a life time of counselling to change your depression... and some times you just can't. Tell a depressed person to stop getting worked up about little things... its like telling a disabled person to stop being disabled. So what your saying makes a lot of sense and to a company.. what your saying is the law. But realisticly.. to a depressed person. Those words are more of an insult than help. I'm sorry for saying but in a case like this being blunt is probably the best way to get a point. But what you've is something that is defiantly worth thinking about.
Rayz01 (EUW)
: Once they start flaming, mute them. Don't wait till they "break your defenses".
Then you don't understand what depression is.
: Lucky for me I'm stubborn.. Even after watching a horrible video of a person insulting my main and hearing about some terrible joke Riot made about Teemo and his attempt to delete him, I'd still stand strong and refuse to go down... Flame me? Mute and good luck, but I refuse to give up on playing this game because assholes insulting my main and try to keep me down. I'm better than that!
And good for you i respect that. But for some people that's just not the case. Sure we can be stubborn for so long and stand strong, But it won't last long and it comes to the point where people actually take the advice of flamers and do attempt to kill themselves. That's the real issue here and riot makes it worse by not only ignoring the problem but by actually making it worse by punishing the people who are already on the verge of breaking.
Bugaboo (EUW)
: Sadly I don't think it's Riot's job to help with players suffering from depression. Not only depression but all sorts of other illnesses too! It's not Riot's job - it's the job of a professional. The only suggestion they can give is to not play. But the community _can_ offer a suggestion of its own and here's mine! A support group! A club on League for players with depression or other illnesses, or such that make it harder to play! Maybe even their own forum and stuff so they can chill, relax, and know who to turn to when things get rough! And you know what you can then do? Play with people who know how you feel! People who usually have a hard time. I totally get what you're saying. I have depression and my escape is games, but so often people judge you for playing bad and it really just makes things worse. People (and Riot) won't understand the whole thing about us not really being able to mute or leave it behind. We seek familiarity a lot of the time. Often people who aren't affected by things like this won't fully understand it, which is why I sort of understand people who struggle with muting people. But yes. My suggestion is a support group that can have a club and forum and know they can always turn to each other.
Seems like a great idea and i understand riot is a company and they don't really care until it starts affecting their numbers in a considerable way. But i was also thinking that they could put in a system that makes it less punishing for people. Because the last thing someone needs when they're fully depressed is riot banning them because the very people who abused them and told them to kill themselves reported them and got them banned.
Rayz01 (EUW)
: There is something in place for thin skinned people, it's called mute button.
If thats your suggestion that you have not read my board properly because i explain why that is not always an option for people with depression and such issues
zZiBBiZz (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Psychowings,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=4zHJsoAh,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2016-05-01T14:03:18.817+0000) > > I used to think that on her release on her rework. But you can play around her. I play top most of the time with champs like sion or voli. They have enough health to survive her constant pokes. All you need to do is work around her riposte. You have enough health to suvive her poke but as soon as she uses riposte that is really her only defense and that is when you go in to trade and then back off most of the time inning the trade. I hate all of her kit CC proof Her Q is worst then target u just point a direction and u good to go Hate every game against her
Then work around it. Its tough to play against her i know. And i thought it was impossible at first, But keep trying and you will get there. Everyone champion has a way to play around.... apart from xin.
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