: To loose with punishments?
The brain includes several distinct dopamine pathways, one of which plays a major role in the motivational component of reward-motivated behavior. The anticipation of most types of rewards increase the level of dopamine in the brain,[2] and many addictive drugs increase dopamine neuronal activity. Other brain dopamine pathways are involved in motor control and in controlling the release of various hormones. Riot doesnt give a shit if you reform or are a good guy, what they want is you to play alot.. Everyone wants to prove that they are good and want to get good and they are just taking advantage of it by putting a completely illogical system. It has turned into a social justice warriors game, for people who got 0 charisma and success outside and want to take pride in somethi g thats not real. This is exactly why they put strict rules.. because its rewarding to all of the sjw's here that think everyone else is a flamer and is a bad human being, try to label them as "taking the game too seriously,ruining it and blabla" while they cant handle getting stomped, and cant even press mute because they dont like the idea of people not liking them for what they are (cowards, crybabies, unskilled and mostly stuck in bronze/silver) and this is why they give u a fast chatrestriction in order to make them feel confident and rewarded(because they anticipate to be right), you can go read about dopamine again. Do research and you will find out that there is a reason why the owners of Riot now are worth 500+ billion in revenue.
Febos (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=RageChaos,realm=EUW,application-id=Mpd1UjGe,discussion-id=AHnGApYE,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-04-05T10:04:57.630+0000) > > for me a lane that lost shouldnt get back in the game that easily But they don't come back that easily. In most cases, if you lose your lane the only thing you can do is piggyback ride on your team. Only exceptional cases can come back into the game from behind, eg hyper carries. Tanks aren't part of that "rule" since a Tank is always "useful" as a meat-bag.
Nah its just ridiculous that a nasus can die 2 times to me and as soon as he gets 1 item he catches up fast, which makes me killing him or tryina win lane pointless because once he gets one armor item i cant kill him.. i better build to 1 shot his team and hopefully im faster than him in succeding doing my plan.. its really situational tho.. My point is people recover from losing way too fast now.. i remember i used to wait 25 minutes until i became revelant again.. but idk man maybe ur right.
: > [{quoted}](name=RageChaos,realm=EUW,application-id=Mpd1UjGe,discussion-id=AHnGApYE,comment-id=000000010000,timestamp=2018-04-05T08:36:16.356+0000) > > Thats just an excuse if you ask me..i dont think that you come across players that bad often. The topic wasnt even about that.. it was about "your solo carry potential" not your teams.. Im talking about more exp reward more dmg gap at lvl ups little details that play big factor.. but mostly are hidden.. even if those against you are more skilled from ur team if u get more kills or cs u should be a threath.. thats my point. For me there should be no solo carry potential in a team game. Otherwise, quite simply, this would not be a team game, but rather a "let's make 10 people play together and the best of them carries the other 4 that happens to play with him".
There is solo carry tbh.. but not as rewarding as it used to be.. if you want complete teamwork aram is pretty good.. But its what made this game popular, the thrill of trying to win by getting ahead. Which is still possiblr but you have little time to abuse it. It shoulf be harder to catch up on exp..
Aezander (EUW)
: I forgot about this ... > [{quoted}](name=RageChaos,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=Xi49PAsL,comment-id=0004000000010000,timestamp=2018-02-11T09:29:11.889+0000) > > They still flamed? Yes. And when they couldn't, because messages were limited, they turned to other ways. Imagine if they were completely blocked from Chat. > Where did I say Perma Chat Restrictions? btw > > "Perma-Chat-Ban" is what I said. Where did I say you said anything about Perma Chat Restrictions ? > Flame and ruining the game are 2 different things, If you intentionally feed, troll, ragequit it has nothing to do with Flaming. No. Flaming can ruin the game just as readily as trolling or inting. Just because flamers refuse to accept that there such a thing as '*team morale*' doesn't make it go away. > You can flame for a lot of reasons. Yes. There are a lot of justifications, but no excuse, whatsoever, in the strict bounds of a team-oriented game. > Clearly the thread name is "How logical is Riot".. Clearly. But most of the time, with threads like this I question "*How logical are the Players*" ... > IFS is so perfect that the game is still toxic :D.. Who said the IFS is perfect ? ... And the game's toxicity indeed has not changed that much since Season 1, but is has gone just a tone down. What has gone up, though, is the '*quality*' of the flamers' vocabulary. > Atleast now I am twice as worse. Knowing thy self is the first step to self-improvement. ^_^
"They turned to otherways" There's no proof on this statement.(except that riot said so) Riot can say anything they want but the fact they didnt release a single statistic chart over the years says alot.So it aint valid. Go force ur fantasies on someone else. When you get out from ur mamas hause and have a business of your own ull understand, that sometimes business have nothing to do with caring about people and their morale. Its basically make as much as u can. I clearly dont agree with you and i aint afraid to tell you that im not gonna simply accept your views.. No matter what rule u put even in real life/game it wouldnt work for the majority. People arent dumb. Everyone is respectful until you start acting like we owe you something or the fact that when ur involved in activity with different people you become questionable the moment youre with them. Verbal abuse can be avoided with mute and can be properly punished thats a fact. Btw i dont play so i dont care about this game anymore, the reason for that is the company was unjust to many people including me. Thats a fact. I did say very offensive stuff that may have been very bad but i dont feel sorry for it and never will. But there is no way you can say that i trolled.. there is no way a player that reaches plat goes there by trolling. If you say i turned to other ways when i couldnt speak then you are a liar. I do better than most of you here even when im not trying hard. Im the kind of player that you hope to have every game u play. And it depends on the flaming, if i flame that high on drugs loser who doesnt move from bot and already lost 2 towers and he replies with "its only a game" in ranked and ruining my fun, i have every right to flame him. Actions are always more punishable! Its one thing to say "ill kill you" its another thing to actually do it. So I ask you "how logical are you?" Clearly u question me, but cant question riot? Isnt riots success from mainly toxic people who like to be competitive? Or is it because its a private entertainment business? If i told u i have business would that make me not questionable? What gives u the right to label and doubt people, when theyve done nothing to harm you? Everyone has 1 trolling person and they are usually a product of anger that comes from recieving a ban for getting too wordy? So he ruined my game so %%%%ing what? I think youre a coward.
Aezander (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=RageChaos,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=Xi49PAsL,comment-id=0003000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-04-05T08:03:37.966+0000) > > Fact is he doesnt even come 3% close to dunkey to call him a joke.. Fact is that when you want to compare a game you compare it to similar games not show Fighting games (iirc Street Fighter), comparing a 1v1 game with a 5v5. Donkey's video mixes everything he says with saltiness, so his objectivity is questionable. > Funny thing is that when people chose to deny logic.. Logic is the thing that keeps u warm in winter and keeps ur food from being toxic and killing all the harmful bacteria.. If there was no leading power that gave statements and opinions that would guide you to a logical path, you wouldnt have life more than 20 years if youre lucky.. and this is why "valid" is a thing.. Yes. What you get wrong is that statement =/= opinion, and both are different from facts, which are what have allowed you to live "*more than 20 years*".
Excuses, clearly he started with that he flamed someone because of inting and got banned for it? He got banned because he raged at someone who inted his game.. and thats what exactly happened to me too.. Did you even get his point? Or u just willingly looked aside?? Did you miss intentioanlly"toxicity is in the context of the gameplay" Did you miss the "i dont enjoy thr game and nobody i play with enjoys it", did you miss "multiplayer game" did you miss the fact that he said "I think" he wasnt making a general statement, he was simply saying what he thinks! And clearly 235 k likes and thats like almost quarter a million and the dislikes 22k not even near baby. There are a lot of points he made and until u dont quote all of them you arent valid as u think u are! We see that league has come to a point that dota has more views. Which wasnt the case before 2016(downfall)
: Interesting i feel the opposite you say. If a team get advantage there is no turning back, they just go for objectives, towers and you can do nothing, and after 20 min 1 team has double gold than the other team. Maybe its because you just play that trash Riven, its a useless top laner, Like Lee Sin jungle or whatever. You have a little early advantage but in team fight you can do nothing, if you are not 2 lethality items ahead.
Riven is very good team play champion. Fighter/bruiser/assasin that can engage can escape can bait and can burst and provide cc.
Febos (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=RageChaos,realm=EUW,application-id=Mpd1UjGe,discussion-id=AHnGApYE,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-04-05T07:53:46.739+0000) > > i came back to play after i quit the game Not playing for 44 days doesn't qualify as "quitting the game". *** > [{quoted}](name=RageChaos,realm=EUW,application-id=Mpd1UjGe,discussion-id=AHnGApYE,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-04-05T07:53:46.739+0000) > > i really dont think me getting a double vs jungle and top wouldve mattered somewhere in plat + or high gold.. It depends on what you do with your lead. If you just sit top and pray that your team doesn't fu#k up, then you won't get far. *** > [{quoted}](name=RageChaos,realm=EUW,application-id=Mpd1UjGe,discussion-id=AHnGApYE,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-04-05T07:53:46.739+0000) > > it feels like you have too little time to really make use of ur advantage, not enough stats gained to be rewarded for the play you did.. What the hell are you talking about? Now, more than ever, an early lead is all it takes to shutdown a lane, unless you are playing in a Tank matchup. Why do you think the game is more "snowbally"? *** > [{quoted}](name=RageChaos,realm=EUW,application-id=Mpd1UjGe,discussion-id=AHnGApYE,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-04-05T07:53:46.739+0000) > > Losing lane happens to all but I think we shouldnt have that much chance of getting back in the game.. You don't have that chance unless you are a Tank. Suppose you are playing Fiora and you "lose" your lane. Now all you can do is hope your team carries you while you try to farm for items. Likewise, suppose you are an ADC (any of them). If you lose lane you better hope your mid is somewhat ahead, otherwise the game is over before 20 minutes. *** > [{quoted}](name=RageChaos,realm=EUW,application-id=Mpd1UjGe,discussion-id=AHnGApYE,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-04-05T07:53:46.739+0000) > > I think riot should bring back the old game before 2015 and before all the reworks, put it as a separate server or something.. This just wouldn't be feasible. {{sticker:sg-lulu}}
I guess ur right about most.. only that i lack the feel of advantage statswise.. to me it seems like use the moment type of advantage.. for me a lane that lost shouldnt get back in the game that easily. Itd be more thrilling.. like it was before..
: > [{quoted}](name=RageChaos,realm=EUW,application-id=Mpd1UjGe,discussion-id=AHnGApYE,comment-id=000000010000,timestamp=2018-04-05T08:36:16.356+0000) > > Thats just an excuse if you ask me..i dont think that you come across players that bad often. The topic wasnt even about that.. it was about "your solo carry potential" not your teams.. Im talking about more exp reward more dmg gap at lvl ups little details that play big factor.. but mostly are hidden.. even if those against you are more skilled from ur team if u get more kills or cs u should be a threath.. thats my point. For me there should be no solo carry potential in a team game. Otherwise, quite simply, this would not be a team game, but rather a "let's make 10 people play together and the best of them carries the other 4 that happens to play with him".
there is a reason why there is christiano ronaldo or leo messi.. michael jordan or any other good teamplayer that has good sprint speed or call it talent. i have no problem supporting and dying for a teammate who carries. It just shows how addaptive i am.. or i have no problem tryinna deal with a fed wnemy team member.
: > [{quoted}](name=Shukr4n,realm=EUW,application-id=Mpd1UjGe,discussion-id=AHnGApYE,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-04-05T07:57:54.508+0000) > > well, the game has already the solo carry potential. > > one feeding teammate and u lose. u cant ask more solo carry than this Meaning that the enemy got one better temmate than yours. Which means that having one better temmate makes you win. Remember when people use to said that thing? "If you are good you can only get max 4 bad teammates, while the enemy can get 5"? Same thing. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
Thats just an excuse if you ask me..i dont think that you come across players that bad often. The topic wasnt even about that.. it was about "your solo carry potential" not your teams.. Im talking about more exp reward more dmg gap at lvl ups little details that play big factor.. but mostly are hidden.. even if those against you are more skilled from ur team if u get more kills or cs u should be a threath.. thats my point.
Shukr4n (EUW)
: ok, but when proplayers state the same thing probably their voice is more professional than mine. i just parrot what s evident. 0/13 means that opponent were really incompetent, which makes u... well, the same or someone of your team was really good OR game lasted 40-50 minutes so the advantage u gave them was nullified + u could finally get a decent build to compete. anyway, it s a matter of opinions, but i dont see coherency in your reply, since u state the complete opposite than your thread OP
No I was playing in plat. Which makes his stats too low to be able to completely dominate my team.. makes his solo advantage completely irrevelant.. youd understand if you played anywhere higher than gold 2.
Shukr4n (EUW)
: well, the game has already the solo carry potential. one feeding teammate and u lose. u cant ask more solo carry than this
more like 1 braindead teammate who doesnt know how to use his champion properly.. i have won a game with 0/13 .. I didnt get completely carried, i just sacrificed myself alot.. call it int but in the end whatever advantage my opponent had didnt really matter, thats my point. What your saying is not true, especially for higher than gold. It does have solo carry potential but not enough.. its not exciting anymore to fight for a lead.
Aezander (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=RageChaos,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=Xi49PAsL,comment-id=00030000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-04-05T06:55:57.935+0000) > > Youre the joke.. when u even manage to get 30 likes on a valid opinion then say hes joke.. but you can check the views and likes.. I left the game already! Funny ....If you left the game, why are you staking out the fora ? ... Also ... Getting likes doesn't automagically make one's opinion "*valid*" ... It only shows that there are people that are in agreement of part or all of the contents of the opinion.
Fact is he doesnt even come 3% close to dunkey to call him a joke.. Funny thing is that when people chose to deny logic.. Logic is the thing that keeps u warm in winter and keeps ur food from being toxic and killing all the harmful bacteria.. If there was no leading power that gave statements and opinions that would guide you to a logical path, you wouldnt have life more than 20 years if youre lucky.. and this is why "valid" is a thing..
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Jedcore (EUW)
: Boy getting bullied
Comparisson between real life and a game.. Lol.. i can like show u 9 mins of me bullyng all kinds of players..
: Once and for all and please don't reply to this one. So first things first I saw Dunkey's video and it's a %%%%ing joke, because the highest majority (not to say almost every players) of players are fine the way the game is (champ, balance issues and such things put aside) because all the potential cases you quoted stays a small minority in the game not to say isolated cases based on the number of players. So if the way that Riot is handling their game on this part doesn't suit you and ruin your experience every god damn game then feel free to leave, because complaining don't help, it never did and it never will.
Youre the joke.. when u even manage to get 30 likes on a valid opinion then say hes joke.. but you can check the views and likes.. I left the game already!
: You wont stop trolling? Ok, your just showing that you have no place in the community with that attitude. Also gl with that, wonder how many games you will ruin before banned
Ew be a part of this community? Pls. System can detect me flaming but not when I am trolling. Like banning people's champions, picking zilean top, instalocking, not fighting just pretending.. So far its been like 30+ lvls.
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
Simply take their rights to chat completely, they won't ever say k*s again. I got banned by getting angry at someone who trolled and didn't care the result of that is me not speaking and instalocking :D and not caring myself spreading my real toxicity as part of my revenge. I bow my head and respect logical solutions. I have lost respect and will to play the game and its always fun trolling social justice warriors. :D am I banned yet, nope .
: Let me keep this short, you were banned several times ur fault. You got warnings, you decided to ignore, you got banned end of. It doesn't matter if someone ints or trolls you decided to flame no one else. Flaming wont make them stop so just keep quiet.
Done. But I won't stop trolling now. :D
Aezander (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=RageChaos,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=Xi49PAsL,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2018-02-04T17:26:05.243+0000) > > I stopped reading when "they will not be able to vent their frustration and will end up doing it in other ways" > > Show actual statistics or your psychology masters degree. Even with the degree I won't believe you. Riot tried Perma Chat Restrictions the year before they implemented the IFS (the system we have now). Guess what happened with simple **Perma** Chat **Restrictions** ? ...
They still flamed? Where did I say Perma Chat Restrictions? btw "Perma-Chat-Ban" is what I said. Flame and ruining the game are 2 different things, If you intentionally feed, troll, ragequit it has nothing to do with Flaming. You can flame for a lot of reasons. Clearly the thread name is "How logical is Riot".. IFS is so perfect that the game is still toxic :D.. Atleast now I am twice as worse.
: Nobody would notice so to you it doesn't matter wow, well I think I'm done talking with you, I really tried and I think everyone that came to answer to you on this post did but when all the people in this post explained their point of view, you basically just reply back that they where wrong or about their way of writting, and you call me a hyprocrit but when you ask people for their opinion and you reply the way you just did to me or others in this post, well I'm sorry but You are the hypocrit go and fetch the defintion buddy. But anyway don't come and ask people what they think if you just don't give a shit about it and only see things your way. And your post and the way you treated people that took the time to answer you just show that you only give a %%%% about yourself and did it only because you're mad about the loss of your "main account" or whatever and you didn't get your season reward. So once and for all, this topic isn't about fixing an issue you find unfair, it's about yourself, and It's part of the problem of toxicity and defintely not the solution.
Learn English, I said chat-perma-ban, not chat-perma-restrict. But apparently you denied that and made your own story of Maybe and this and that, when there are no statistics ever released. "How logical is Riot" Is the thread name btw. Its not about myself, I suggest looking all the threads created by people who were banned for "flaming".. I also suggest watching dunkey's video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjzgbZL12VI&t= Also read the comment section then you will realize its not only me :D. You are the one who's mad at "flamers" so much that you assume I am making this thread for myself. I didn't call you a hypocrite for no reason. I just think that flaming is not a reason for perma-ban. I even added an idea here. Now that I've proven that Riot is illogical and don't solve anything by perma banning, I am free to troll whenever I want and show people what's worse, I am still not banned btw. :D What's worse, having a person who ints,trolls,ragequits or having one that tries to win and says "you're bad".. Its your choice to listen or /mute..
Aezander (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=RageChaos,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=Xi49PAsL,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2018-02-03T23:45:21.047+0000) > > If someone disrespects and verbally abuses people too much and can't control it he should be "Perma chat banned" That was my point! > Ofcourse I agree with banning people for intentionally ruining games with actions! > > > If League of legends was real life there would be a prison, police, Court, Principal. Do you see any of that? > > You're missing the point. If League of Legends was real life it would a shop and the guy that repeatedly harassed the rest of the shop's clients would be kicked out and forever banned from that shop, no prisons, police, or court needed. Why ? ... Because that guy was in *private property* ... Just like how you and me are when we Log In this or any MMO game. So, stop missing the point. The point being is that words are like actions, in that they affect people (to various degrees) and perma bans are the straw that broke the camel's back, and it's Riot's way of say "*We don't want your behaviour in our game, you failed to adjust your behaviour to the rules, so please leave this game and don't come back*". Perma bans are not reforming punishments. If you could draw an analogy between Perma Bans and a real life analogue, it would probably be like getting exiled. The 14-days ban is the time-out (or the go sit in the bench/corner punishment) and you could potentially say that the two CRs are fines. These last three are the "reforming punishments" in that they give you a chance to reflect on the issues that lead to the punishment, and adjust your behaviour to avoid further punishment.
Nowhere in real life you have "We have the right to do changes for any reason or no reason at all" Nowhere in real life you could get exiled/banned from a shop/country and come back with another account. I am not sure you understand how real life works, why? First of all private owners will have to call the police once they have their mall invaded by terrorists or someone who trashed everything around, or if its a harasser and the security cannot take him out, they will have to call police again.. and if that offender has done damage, there would be court and prisons. So far your logic is facepalm. Since we can make comparisons let me enlighten you a bit. Actions are like words? Game: If someone trolls you're gonna lose 98% of the time, If someone is talking you still have a chance to win! It depends on you whether you will listen and argue or play. Real Life: If someone hits you with a baseball bat is like someone saying "k*s" ? I don't think so. You can walk away from the one who talks shit, but you can't quite walk away from an attacker. So far for your real life comparisons. I choose to question Riot's logic as many people do. So far toxicity isn't solved! So far the most viewed league player is Tyler1. So far the likes on Dunkeys video are more than double than dislikes, incase you don't know https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjzgbZL12VI&t=238s I suggest taking a look at comment section. "We don't want your behaviour in our game, you failed to adjust your behaviour to the rules, so please leave this game and don't come back" Glad to hear your opinion btw. Since they banned the me who used to be positive most of the time, probably had double the honors than the average player and a lot of games and got to plat and didn't flame 0/13 draven because he was trying, yup they banned that person. Now I am not playing that much, whenever I do I am the one who's trolling and they can't detect it and I am finally relaxed and don't give a ... Yup, its your choice to question the company.
: > [{quoted}](name=RageChaos,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=Xi49PAsL,comment-id=000200000000000000010000000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-02-04T17:06:55.571+0000) > > Read the topic again, I never mentioned chat-restrict! This topic isn't about chat restricting, the scrapped system you speak of has nothing to do with what I wrote. Buy glasses I clearly said (perma-chat-ban) Which has nothing to do with "restrictions" So, a totally similar system was tried and failed and you think that it has nothing to do with your proposal .?. Nice ... > Yes people can forget sometimes.. yeah, sure ... but not about the things that they are trying to argue about ... > Majority? > Riot never releases any statistics of who actually plays this game! They just tell it! More quibbling ... when Riot tells a statistic, what is the difference with "releasing" it .?. Statistics aren't caged pidgeons you know ... > Inform me when Riot actually puts some statistics and logic. Riot has **released** that the people getting permabanned are 0.006% of the playerbase, or did you conveniently forgot that too .?. > You believe you are majority I believe you are the part of the toxic system literally fighting for something you cannot change, its in the nature of humans. No, it is in your nature and you try to cram it down everyone's throats ... Everyone I meet everyday interacts normally with one another and if something is not to their liking or satisfacion, they try to deal with it as best as they can, they do not melt down in a ball of flame and rage that points angry fingers at everyone to fix the mess for them ... get out more, dude ... > Which means you basically put years and I played for several years reaching plat in 2 accounts and expected to behave like a robot robot ... also known as decent everyday person ... > and in all of hundreds of games if you get angry and detected 3 times you get your account taken from you! Just watch the video and check out the likes! and ask yourself if you are truly a majority? So, a youtube video's likes is now a poll about legality and reality .?. Billions of people live in societies and accept the idea of rules and laws and common accepted behaviour, so when your precious video hits a couple of BILLION likes, ping me ... > This isn't about only me yeah, sure ... you cared about that every day you played lol ... spare us ... we can spot the vested interest from a mile away ... > last night at some time I saw 3 people banned in just one day and they posted chatlogs it was nothing serious just some small trash talk some of them even got flamed themselves.. I wonder just how many competitive people get their account taken from them?! competitive flammers also known as amateurs that cannot understand what on earth they are struggling and getting angry for ...
> So, a totally similar system was tried and failed and you think that it has nothing to do with your proposal .?. Nice ... Yup, exactly! The difference is perma-chat-banned player wouldn't be able to say anything at all, Chat restricted will be able to say. > yeah, sure ... but not about the things that they are trying to argue about ... that was 4 years ago dude, will you remember everything from 4 years ago in certain period of time(it ill most likely take time)? I wasn't even talking about "chat restricts" in the first place that wasn't my argument. I wasn't thinking of my self too.. there is a lot of factors that can affect your memory. Some people came here lying about that Riot tried this system and I found 4 people that posted in 2014 and quoted them, you can check in comments. I already have proof! and one of these players was restricted for more than 100 games and he is still currently playing, reformed?! > robot ... also known as decent everyday person ... Zinadine Zidane, Christiano Ronaldo, Zlatan Ibrahimovich, Messi, Mike Tyson, This is an example of famous athletes who lost it before, were also disrespectful to their collegues and enemies. It is acceptable human behavior. Sometimes other people piss you off and they challenge "verbal abuse". There are a lot of other athletes who also lose it I am not gonna mention all. But even the best lose it! > So, a youtube video's likes is now a poll about legality and reality .?. Billions of people live in societies and accept the idea of rules and laws and common accepted behaviour, so when your precious video hits a couple of BILLION likes, ping me ... You claimed you are a majority and I showed you what kind of opinions people like! Which is 228k likes and only 22k dislikes :D.. Now where in reality a government has the right to do "whatever changes for any reason or no reason at all to your account" (League of legends terms of use) So spare me the reality argument! We both know that League is still toxic and there are a lot of toxic people in it. People also question Rules! If they didn't question rules we'd be still in stone age following our tribe leader. > yeah, sure ... you cared about that every day you played lol ... spare us ... we can spot the vested interest from a mile away ... https://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/off-topic-en/y3LEFNlK-why-just-dont-add-chat-perm-ban https://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behaviour-en/7HL8EwTM-perma-ban https://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behaviour-en/QUqAevH7-just-got-permabanned-just-for-1-game These are all threads I posted on I care about the players who lose their accounts! They put time and effort and money in them! There should be proper punishment for rage and proper management! These aren't the only players I've commented on. > competitive flammers also known as amateurs that cannot understand what on earth they are struggling and getting angry for ... I cannot comment on that! Its none of my business, they all have different reasons, not that it should be tolerated.. But perma ban is a bit too extreme! This is why I suggest completely muting the person forever! READ THE ORIGINAL TOPIC I REPEAT! Just because you are hateful to people doesn't mean they are the same as you.
: Already tried that. Didn't work. Moving on.
Nope the 2014 system was not a perma-chat ban one but it was rather a system that chat-restricted a person for over 100 times until the person reformed! Chat-restricting and Chat-Perma-Banning are two different things! You can also find more about this on this thread: https://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behaviour-en/Xi49PAsL-how-logical-is-riot
: > How about perma chat ban? Instead of Perma ban a person's account? So I stopped reading there must we have this discussion so often bottom line is if you perma chat ban them they will not be able to vent their frustration and will end up doing it in other ways. I am no angel I'll admit but you can't get banned so easily hell I have done some shit but its never often enough to get punished and it doesn't happen nearly as often anymore as to what 6 years ago but this discussion rears its ugly head way too often permaban is a good way of trying to knock some sense into those that are so unbelievably dense that a 14 day ban wont drill into their thick skull.
I stopped reading when "they will not be able to vent their frustration and will end up doing it in other ways" Show actual statistics or your psychology masters degree. Even with the degree I won't believe you.
: > [{quoted}](name=RageChaos,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=Xi49PAsL,comment-id=0002000000000000000100000001000000000000,timestamp=2018-02-04T15:33:16.247+0000) > > Do you know what a chat restriction means? I do ... > It doesnt matter if you have 1 000 000 chat restrictions, in all of those 1 000 000 games you can still comment 1 000 000 times. and, as I said, most flammers squandered those messages (it was not one per game, btw, but hey) to flame even then ... so they got more chat restrictions that did nothing to them, **so the system didn't work and it was scrapped** ... what is so hard to understand in those two lines of facts .?. Going on irrelevant tangents doesn't change the facts ... > I played in 2014, I was locked in chat-restriction-loops and I only remembered now. I forgot about it. But now I can say for sure. You can contact every player I have quoted here from 2014, they will say the same. oh, sure ... YOU remembered it just now (after so many people mentioned it again and again and you doubted it), but somehow WE need to go contact all those players ... it is YOUR argument, YOU go find them and contact them ... > How many people are handless in this world? > > I'd say like 5% maybe not even 5%.. So, what .?. The fact remains that everything around us is made for people WITH hands, for the majority and for special cases we have ramps and things like that ... same thing here ... everything is made for the majority and for special cases we have the support and the majority doesn't want to put up with your childish behaviour and your whining over losing a game ... > All the same old unlogical BS, no proof just based on your "toxic" ignorance. You are getting banned and we are toxic ... sure pal :)
Read the topic again, I never mentioned chat-restrict! This topic isn't about chat restricting, the scrapped system you speak of has nothing to do with what I wrote. Buy glasses I clearly said (perma-chat-ban) Which has nothing to do with "restrictions" Yes people can forget sometimes.. All I suggested here is a system where it punishes people for typing too much and instead of taking their account it takes their right to write completely so you don't have to put up with it. Majority? Riot never releases any statistics of who actually plays this game! They just tell it! Another game company like valve does this: Games by this company: 30 Average userscore: 89.81% Average metascore: 85.07% Average playtime: 34:41 Total copies owned: 287,386,428 Inform me when Riot actually puts some statistics and logic. You believe you are majority I believe you are the part of the toxic system literally fighting for something you cannot change, its in the nature of humans. If you don't believe me check out the likes and dislikes in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjzgbZL12VI A lot of Riot defenders say that Dunkey lied about the circumstances of his ban, may be true but that still doesn't deny the point he makes! "That the roots of the toxicity is the game itself" and that he was saying "you get banned for shit talking" Which means you basically put years and I played for several years reaching plat in 2 accounts and expected to behave like a robot and in all of hundreds of games if you get angry and detected 3 times you get your account taken from you! Just watch the video and check out the likes! and ask yourself if you are truly a majority? This isn't about only me, last night at some time I saw 3 people banned in just one day and they posted chatlogs it was nothing serious just some small trash talk some of them even got flamed themselves.. I wonder just how many competitive people get their account taken from them?!
Èclair (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=RageChaos,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=Xi49PAsL,comment-id=0002000000000000000100000002000000000000,timestamp=2018-02-04T15:17:18.884+0000) > > How can a perma-chat-banned(perma-muted) person can ever say something bad to you? I said it countless times already even in this very thread but I'll say it again - they will go all their way to grief when unable to vent their frustration over the chat. It's actually pretty common thing after toxic player realises that he has been muted by the most of the people in game. He starts griefing and ruin the game in other way. > You weren't there you don't know! This very account was created in September of 2012. I was there of all people and I even recieved rewards like free skin and x-mass Nashor icon for abiding the rules. Hell, I even have Victorious Morgana that was distributed at the end of season 4. Besides, you were the one person arguing whether this system ever existed and even called it a fraud saying that we _"made this shit up"_. Please... > I think pretty well deserved insult.Since you are disrespectful to me refusing to see any proofs refusing to look at my logic and yet still trying to comment here with your non-Logical BS. [...] I feel like I am talking to a 10 year old that doesn't want to understand. I think you're projecting much. > You clearly can't debate.. Can you though? Because even staying on topic seems hard for you. > Look up the definition of BAN and Restriction. A ban is absolute restriction of usage of your account features. I can't believe I had to explain this to you, but here we go.
ban - officially or legally prohibit (something). "they will go all their way to grief when unable to vent their frustration over the chat" We can develop theories and say what they'll do for days here.
: > [{quoted}](name=RageChaos,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=Xi49PAsL,comment-id=00020000000000000001000000010000,timestamp=2018-02-04T14:08:46.072+0000) > > Where does it say perma-chat ban? 3000 games in a season is permanent for most people that are in the habit of eating and sleeping within a day, so if you want to quibble, you need to go to a planet with a 48hour day. > You could easily violate it even if u had 200 What does this mean .?. > I actually showed you a reformed player so, what .?. I can show you a person that has no hands and can play the guitar : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3gMgK7h-BA would you advocate that we all stop using our hands when playing guitar then .?. One person doesn't matter when you are talking about making systems that are meant to apply to a diverse crowd ... what works for MOST PEOPLE is what matters in such cases ...
Do you know what a chat restriction means? It doesnt matter if you have 1 000 000 chat restrictions, in all of those 1 000 000 games you can still comment 1 000 000 times. I played in 2014, I was locked in chat-restriction-loops and I only remembered now. I forgot about it. But now I can say for sure. You can contact every player I have quoted here from 2014, they will say the same. How many people are handless in this world? I'd say like 5% maybe not even 5%.. Please refrain yourself from such statements. All the same old unlogical BS, no proof just based on your "toxic" ignorance.
Shiwah (EUW)
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Again: read the Topic name "How logical is Riot" + your link is not working SPAM - irrelevant or unsolicited messages sent over the Internet, typically to a large number of users, for the purposes of advertising, phishing, spreading malware, etc.
Shiwah (EUW)
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Hahah Nowhere it proves that someone was permanently chat-banned.. But rather got like 100+ chat restricted games where they still got 5/5 comments. The fact that they still could chat proves that "Perma-Chat-ban" didn't exist.
: > [{quoted}](name=RageChaos,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=Xi49PAsL,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2018-02-04T07:33:15.265+0000) > > You realize you're in one of the most toxic games in internet?! and you realize you are also in internet? Is it? How do you know? Source?
https://www.ranker.com/list/video-games-with-toxic-communities/melissa-brinks https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/2v9zqf/top_10_most_toxic_game_communities/ As if you don't see it with your eyes?
Shiwah (EUW)
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As science now knows DNA is unique and no where in 9 billion people there is a person that looks/feels/thinks the same. I only gave example that just because someone has a loud mouth doesn't mean he will intentionally ruin the game! No Riot didn't try this solution, Riot only tried the "endless chat restriction mode" We both know what a chat restriction is! Chat restriction is that you have certain amount of 5/5 Comments. What I am talking about "Perma-Chat-Ban" Once someone gets perma-Chat-banned he can never ever speak while playing.
Shiwah (EUW)
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No they didn't have this experiment and it never took place! They may have had 500 chat restriction's but they weren't muted completely! They weren't completely Chat banned but rather "Chat restricted" Learn the difference, go buy an English dictionary if you have to. My points? It took you 20 comments and you still don't realize that I am talking about COMPLETELY MUTING(AKA CHAT BANNING) the offensive player FOREVER, completely taking his right to even write 1 word. It was never done!
: > [{quoted}](name=RageChaos,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=Xi49PAsL,comment-id=000200000000000000010000,timestamp=2018-02-04T02:07:38.110+0000) > > Any proof that it didn't work? Yes ... people with 3000+ chat restrictions that used the few messages the system allowed them to make per game to flame, again, so, they got more chat restrictions ... so, this is why flammers cannot have nice stuff, THEY were given a good deal and **THEY** crapped all over it ... simple as that.
Where does it say perma-chat ban? You could easily violate it even if u had 200 I actually showed you a reformed player
: I'm sorry but that was to me totally related and the fact that Riot should stop punishing toxic players by taking away their season's rewards, well I think it's fair because when people don't reform after several chats restrictions, well it's the stick or the carrot and unfortunately and I do feel sad about this but most of the people playing this game only understand the stick, and yes maybe the reason why Riot perma ban or deny seasons reward can't be apply to a player that only got 1 chat restriction but it's equality and a totally different matter. And what I was trying to say in my previous response is that chat restrictions to a certain points aren't enough and eventually people start to find other way to be toxic weither it's inting or report for nothing or anything else. And you say "IF" LoL was a prison, a court a whatever but the thing is here: It's not and that is the most important because these are things that can't be compared at all. So In my opinion perma ban should stay a thing, maybe less strict but it should definitely stay especially when their is vocal chat coming up
Yep and I'll find new ways to be toxic now. Without speaking! Like play only 50% of my ability and leave my team in teamfights Nobody would notice. 2 Perma bans.. and 2 because my most valuable account got banned after that I didn't care for this shitty community. You don't deserve respect and no you wouldn't have it in society. You can't make me have respect for you. I don't respect whiny cowards and prefer to stay away from them. You may act like good, but you treat everyone as if they are the same. HYpocrite.
: i dont understand this... the people gabe you their replies and attention and tried to answer your questions and give contra to many arguments. And most time you tell them that their grammar is bad... say is it so hard to accept that people dont have your opinion?
Read the topic please! They edited their posts! They chose what to comment on, rather than showing the full explanations and fully answer them. They just mad people who cannot mute and want everyone to get banned for saying "you're bad" Even if someone said it 1000 times I don't think he should be perma-banned but rather Permanently muted by Riot so he doesn't say it again. + They don't have their own opinion they have Riot's opinion. Nothing about these people is original. They say the same shit, they follow each other and conspire against players that flame. Discriminating/condemning them like they are some sort of unforgivable/unacceptable humans. All I am trying to say is there are different methods for punishment.
: Some people including me don't want some stuff said to us because it reminds us of bad memories, situations, even some people had suicidal thoughts and a person saying "%%%" really does not help with their mood. Imo trash talking fine, i'll trash talk back. Sayings stuff like "pls %%%, die, hope x and y happens to you and your parents, tard, etc" is not fine and nobody wants see this stuff. I'd rather people int and troll than morbidly flame, with int/troll I just lose a little bit of lp, with morbid flaming I lose morale, I get reminded of bad memories, suicidal thoughts and if I try and flame back I don't achieve anything, I just end up losing my account. I've never been banned for toxicity (only for leaving and name yes) , because I know I can always be the better person. TL;DR Morbid flaming is way worse than trolling and inting.
You realize you're in one of the most toxic games in internet?! and you realize you are also in internet?
: im pretty active in other games and always read the rules. so please, send me a example of "true rules" but as stated before its ritos house and they make the rules. if you dont like them you can just stop spending time with the game
I don't spend time playing anymore I only play occasionally to be a smart troll and to piss people off and carry their asses or just don't try to do anything at all. Where exactly do they ban for small verbal abuse? Cs an admin will most likely mute you if you type too much. Perma bans only occur when cheating and how severe your verbal abuse is. Riot just doesn't care. People never get banned in Dota and many other multiplayer games except when they're cheating. Also actual good forum rules include not allowing SPAM,(Something unrelated to the topic).. People get randomly banned here. I have examples in my post's..
: why do you feel the need to defend yourself for litterally everything?
Why are you spamming? Read the topic. I am defending the whole community of sportsman like players that got angry and got banned and got years of their hard work taken for getting angry several times and defending because of people like you who don't know proper laws/rules in forums or in games!
: You are a sensible person in a sea of easily offended children raised by Riots policies and overly protective and overly censoring employees of Riot who create systems as the current Instant Feedback System. For many years Riot has been actively trying to censor and and ban so called ''toxic behaviour'' (nowadays stuff that people get banned for can not even be considered ''toxic behaviour'', it has become **that** absurd) while not realising they are trying to deal with the result rather than with the cause. While ''toxic people'' will keep getting banned predominantly more often than trolls, intentional feeders, boosted players etc. League will forever remain the most toxic game in the world simply because the root of toxicity remains largely untouched while Riot keeps running after the leafs which grow from that root.
: Riots automated ban system is becoming even more of a joke
https://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behaviour-en/Xi49PAsL-how-logical-is-riot check this topic. I don't think you should be banned, there are other punishments. I think different system is needed at this point.
SirPommes (EUW)
: Perma Ban
https://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behaviour-en/Xi49PAsL-how-logical-is-riot check this topic I don't think you should be perma-banned.. There are better more effective punishments.
BenihimeK (EUW)
: Just got Permabanned, Just for 1 Game...
https://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behaviour-en/Xi49PAsL-how-logical-is-riot Check this thread concerning perma bans.
Èclair (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=RageChaos,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=Xi49PAsL,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2018-02-03T23:18:21.215+0000) > > Sorry not abazz - Paragraph - a distinct section of a piece of writing, usually dealing with a single theme and indicated by a new line, indentation, or numbering Well, if you are aware of what paragraph is and how's called then you should clearly tell that I did use it in my previous posts. I don't see why are you pointing that out though. > I had a comma after the word discrimination and wasn't my full explanation. No, you actually failed to explain how is that a discrimination when all the players are treated equally. What follows after you calling act of banning people a discrimination is: > [{quoted}](name=RageChaos,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=Xi49PAsL,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-02-03T21:53:34.165+0000) > > [...] we all have hands and heads and we all know that we are online and nobody would actually suffer that much. It doesn't explain your point but rather opens another argument. If you want to stay at the topic of grammar, there should be a period instead of the comma you put in since it feels like another sentence rather than continuation of an existing one. I didn't point that out since I didn't want to derail this conversation to pointless debates about grammar and punctuation. ____ > [{quoted}](name=RageChaos,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=Xi49PAsL,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2018-02-03T23:18:21.215+0000) > > What good it would do to me sharing my chat logs? To prove your claim that most of the bans based on chat logs are just _"small trash talk"_. And I can tell you from this spot not even looking at chat logs you aren't willing to provide - it wasn't just small trash talk because small trash talk doesn't get you perma banned. > If its healthy or not we can clearly see the complains every day.. and some banned for mild flaming. This person for example https://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behaviour-en/8wF9gi1G-is-this-enough-for-a-permaban First of all, permanent bans don't appear out of blue. Well, not counting the most extreme of the extremes. A person in question, the OP of a thread you posted, must've been banned previously and the period following the 14 day suspension is phase when you must drop all of the toxicity and actually prove that you are reformed. Even the slightest flame, like in this instance calling teammates trash and throwing temper tantrum on chat might result in permanent suspension. So yeah, it was deserved. > He was obviously trying to play the game and got angry, if his typing is a problem then chat ban him forever instead of banning his account forever. No, he wouldn't. As I and somebody else pointed out, RG tried this method of punishment and it resulted in others just finding new way to grief and cause mischief to their teammates when tilted. Pernament chat bans are not working and will never be a thing.
donnyx3 Member 07-02-2014 I experienced the same for over 400 games now. I stopped flaming after I got my first restriction and since it still renewed all the time I avoided using the chat completely but it still wouldn't stop and renew always at like 1-4 games left. I think this is automated and really ****ing pathetic. An actual reformed player, last played 9 hours ago. It was never a perma-chat ban It was just form of long term chat restricting! Never say never. + You make shit up.
Èclair (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=RageChaos,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=Xi49PAsL,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2018-02-03T23:18:21.215+0000) > > Sorry not abazz - Paragraph - a distinct section of a piece of writing, usually dealing with a single theme and indicated by a new line, indentation, or numbering Well, if you are aware of what paragraph is and how's called then you should clearly tell that I did use it in my previous posts. I don't see why are you pointing that out though. > I had a comma after the word discrimination and wasn't my full explanation. No, you actually failed to explain how is that a discrimination when all the players are treated equally. What follows after you calling act of banning people a discrimination is: > [{quoted}](name=RageChaos,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=Xi49PAsL,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-02-03T21:53:34.165+0000) > > [...] we all have hands and heads and we all know that we are online and nobody would actually suffer that much. It doesn't explain your point but rather opens another argument. If you want to stay at the topic of grammar, there should be a period instead of the comma you put in since it feels like another sentence rather than continuation of an existing one. I didn't point that out since I didn't want to derail this conversation to pointless debates about grammar and punctuation. ____ > [{quoted}](name=RageChaos,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=Xi49PAsL,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2018-02-03T23:18:21.215+0000) > > What good it would do to me sharing my chat logs? To prove your claim that most of the bans based on chat logs are just _"small trash talk"_. And I can tell you from this spot not even looking at chat logs you aren't willing to provide - it wasn't just small trash talk because small trash talk doesn't get you perma banned. > If its healthy or not we can clearly see the complains every day.. and some banned for mild flaming. This person for example https://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behaviour-en/8wF9gi1G-is-this-enough-for-a-permaban First of all, permanent bans don't appear out of blue. Well, not counting the most extreme of the extremes. A person in question, the OP of a thread you posted, must've been banned previously and the period following the 14 day suspension is phase when you must drop all of the toxicity and actually prove that you are reformed. Even the slightest flame, like in this instance calling teammates trash and throwing temper tantrum on chat might result in permanent suspension. So yeah, it was deserved. > He was obviously trying to play the game and got angry, if his typing is a problem then chat ban him forever instead of banning his account forever. No, he wouldn't. As I and somebody else pointed out, RG tried this method of punishment and it resulted in others just finding new way to grief and cause mischief to their teammates when tilted. Pernament chat bans are not working and will never be a thing.
Any proof that it didn't work? I don't believe things just because "RIOT SAID SO" "06-02-2014 If your behavior does not improve, they can extend/increase the restriction. You should put in a support ticket if you have any questions." "06-03-2014 I ended a 60 game chat restriction a few days ago. I went off for the evening and came back on in the morning and had 150 more games with restriction. Fun times " "05-23-2014 No, you will just pile up the chat restrictions until they cap. After that, you will either get a 1-2 week ban or you will be perma-banned. If you cannot fix your behavior after 20/40/60 chat restricted games, then you shouldn't be playing the game in the first place." "10-04-2014 I've been on "perma chat restriction" for probably close to 200 games and since I don't get chat log emails to show me where i was toxic I dont know why. Just recently, i finished my set of 60 ish chat restricted games. The match without it, i was playing with my friends and having a good time as top thresh and ended the game ~9/1. During the game I didn't talk much and I think i only said a couple things in all chat like "top tier play". Immediately after the match i recieved 51 chat restricted matches out of the blue. Can a rioter please post a chat log of that game so i know why i was punished?" These are stuff people wrote in 2014. I think perma-chat bans never happened. You're just lying and making things up so you can justify the way you think! To think you said "never".
: I read every single word of your post and you miss my point and took the liberty to deform it but anyway, what I meant was, League and what's going on in the life of someone are 2 different things and buy this I mean that the issues that someone encounter in his life shouldn't affect his way to behave towards over people. And I find your comparison to jail, murder... really easy and misplaced because it's all about scales so a perma ban can't et shouldn't be in any manner, compared to a jail sentence or a murder or anything close to this. And as MadEclair pointed it out there is a room for human error, and I find Riot to be reality open minded toward it with their "Every player can reform and rise again" policy. And you forget about the people that simply enjoy to be trash, toxic and such, and once the room for error is passed and the 2nd, 3rd, 4th chances as well I think it's better to be safe than sorry, so if toxic people that haven't "reformed" and receive multiple warnings, and can't learn to only "shut their mouth" for 20/30 minutes, well then I think the sentence is purely deserved. And if you strongly believe in your talks, well then good luck in your crusade of yours, because that's almost every multiplayer based game that operates that way towards toxic behavior out there.
This is completely unrelated to the topic and your first post was unrelated too! You said "How life in society works" and I only gave a little example of how things would be in "society" if laws were like in LoL and by that I meant what you meant, that society has nothing to do with playing. There are different rules everywhere. Next time you come for whatever reason assuming what "I WANT" and speak about "RESPECT" I suggest to really read this TOPIC! I never said we should let the tommy freely trash talk I only said that we should mute him forever. DISRESPECTFUL?! The topic is taking the rights of negative people from chatting "PERMANENTLY"! How you feel about that is completely different. I am only saying that Riot could use different ways to reform people! If people like you existed and focused only on the rules that "Society" or anything else be it "football" or "technology" If everyone believed in 1 thing and don't try to change it there would be no evolution or progress. And so far Riot's reforming program is doing really well.(If it was that good you wouldn't be coming in Player behavior would you?) By taking my champions,skins everything I played years for they expect me to reform? Think about that next time.
Shukr4n (EUW)
: chatlog helps to understand was it your first time? did u get a 14days ban before? did u write %%% or wishing bad thing to the person behind the screen? if u are that mad at rules sharing chatlog should be a way to remove the guilt from you, if u are innocent. otherwise, ToC u agreed when created account punish bad behaviour. im the first fan of an equal ruleset for players, and actually it is not. but still..
The topic was about Perma-chat ban instead of Perma ban.Questioning Riots punishment system. Whatever I said the damage is done and I can't take it back. Its not like they didn't say anything back or weren't rude to me. Its not like they didn't dance behind me when I was fighting on purpose. But can you see that? My answer is: No point in sharing my chatlog. Who is truly innocent?
: Damn boi, you have a way to see this that is %%%%ing amazing, so according to you we should let the little Tommy insulting and having a disgusting attitude to someone else he doesn't even know just to keep him from hitting his desk as school and annoying classmates by doing so? Do you know how life in society works? Lemme tell ya, it's %%%%ing simple mate: You actually owe RESPECT to everybody and even more so if you don't know the person in front of you, so yes if someone behave toxically repeatedly to peoples, after multiples warnings like chat restrictions and such, then yes he don't deserve to be allowed to play with others anymore. Because you know the proverb right, "Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me" and I don't think Riot and people in general like to be played for fools.
and you're basically saying that just because someone abused you in school he should be banned for life or the right from studying taken from him? Is that the respect you speak of? Taking his ID card and have him start from first grade? Just because he has bad personality doesn't mean he's a killer. There are policies that take care of that specific behavior. But obviously this is a game. I suggest you review your moral values and your own respect. Did you treat me with respect and actually red what I said? Real life/school is completely irrelevant here and the policies here don't come close to real life policies.. Where in real life you've seen a policy like "We have the right to imprison you or make any changes for whatever reason or no reason at all" ???? This is in the terms of use in League of legends. I am 22 years old I have been working from age 16.
: Damn boi, you have a way to see this that is %%%%ing amazing, so according to you we should let the little Tommy insulting and having a disgusting attitude to someone else he doesn't even know just to keep him from hitting his desk as school and annoying classmates by doing so? Do you know how life in society works? Lemme tell ya, it's %%%%ing simple mate: You actually owe RESPECT to everybody and even more so if you don't know the person in front of you, so yes if someone behave toxically repeatedly to peoples, after multiples warnings like chat restrictions and such, then yes he don't deserve to be allowed to play with others anymore. Because you know the proverb right, "Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me" and I don't think Riot and people in general like to be played for fools.
If someone disrespects and verbally abuses people too much and can't control it he should be "Perma chat banned" That was my point! Ofcourse I agree with banning people for intentionally ruining games with actions! If League of legends was real life there would be a prison, police, Court, Principal. Do you see any of that? You're missing the point.
Shiwah (EUW)
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I think you edited something so this topic became who attacks who. Its okay I didn't expect reasonable logic from you guys anyway, I expected "Riots rules" tho..
Shiwah (EUW)
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I don't see how that's related with the topic?
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