: I'm assuming Cait fired towards the wall (image isn't clear). What happens there is that the knockbacks cancelled each other's animation, but the game still read Codemn as hitting the wall. Not sure if I'd call that a bug. A janky interaction, but not a bug.
> [{quoted}](name=The7thSeal,realm=EUW,application-id=ETj6EdvQ,discussion-id=7o64yPud,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-08-29T18:41:16.451+0000) > > I'm assuming Cait fired towards the wall (image isn't clear). Good point, I added another picture showing that Cait fired towards Vayne (so should be knocked backed in the direction of the wall). So the resulting knockback of both spells (if one can say so) would be somewhere _inside_ the wall.
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Owario (EUW)
: You’d be right in thinking this, I play Veigar a lot and I get kills on people who go to execute without dealing damage or hitting them with E, it applies a ‘status effect’ in a circle when it’s building up, so that in turn allows you (as Veigar) to garner an assist or kill (if then execute). {{champion:45}}
Thanks for your answer. The weird think about this behavior of Veigar's E is the inconsistency within the game: For example, one does not get an assist from a Nami Q, that hasn't arrived on the ground yet. But in my eyes, these two spells belong to the same category: Spells, that cause an area of CC / Status effect.
Puddytat (EUW)
: That's weird. Did you by any chance flash away so the circle might've been building and then be out of sight for you? For it to apply a status effect, you should have been somewhere on the same screen at some point, I think. Actually, I just thought of something: if that Veigar had a Luden's Echo and stunned Cait, maybe the Luden's proc jumped to you... although I'd expect the death recap to explicitely state that.
> [{quoted}](name=Puddytat,realm=EUW,application-id=ETj6EdvQ,discussion-id=nNdQjVe5,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-06-05T11:59:45.404+0000) > > That's weird. Did you by any chance flash away so the circle might've been building and then be out of sight for you? For it to apply a status effect, you should have been somewhere on the same screen at some point, I think. > > Actually, I just thought of something: if that Veigar had a Luden's Echo and stunned Cait, maybe the Luden's proc jumped to you... although I'd expect the death recap to explicitely state that. Thanks for your answer :) The idea with flash is good: I did use it in order to escape from the veigar+shyvana, who were chasing me. But as far as I can remember I did use it even before veigar came in range. What I am pretty sure of is, that at no point of time I have been inside his circle. I looked up the build of veigar (added it to the main post) and he didn't buy Luden's Echo. Additionally, Cait and me were too far away from each other (I have been at the first bot-tower, she has been between the 2 bushes in botlane). Btw: I also added a link to the match history.
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