: I dont know whats the big deal with the community. its not that long of a login wait time.
You have to schedule your games now! Make an appointment! See ya next week!
: https://imgur.com/4d7Ulhx got the same now
Congratz :D
Chanpurü (EUW)
: yooo, can you be a bit toxic please you are making me uncomfortable
: Login Queue Time
You are lucky one, I have 65h 12min :D
: Game crashed again pls.......
What a surprise a new event and a new mode and problems again... who could've guessed. Same here, can't play while my friends can...
FR4GGEL (EUW)
: Poeple who go like "its about winning" and "it screws your muscle memory" imho dont get what aram is all about: Just fun. Make all champs free for every account: ARAM accs gone - problem solved. Get rid of bans and take some off the rerolls or the bench - going back to aRam - cherry picking problem solved. Or just go back to the times when ARAM was a custom fun game, not a thing to prove your skills, to get rid of the tryhards that ruin the fun.
Tell me about it, I stopped playing ranked long ago as I was looking just for some fun and this is why I switched to ARAM. Nowadays, ARAM feels exactly like ranked. Tryharding there might be even worse.
: "ARAM accounts" with very limited pools got heavily affected by the three rotation change. Still I would prefer all champions in this mode. The main problem with limited ARAM accounts is that you can create an unlimited amount which leads to a lot of dodging and simply swapping to another account. Players with full accounts are not really punished. You get more rerolls so you are able to provide more picks for your teams pool - the bench was a really good addition. Same goes with rerolls. For experienced teams it is a reliable way to get viable comps. Which, imho, is way better than stuff like the forsaken godlike-op summoner-spell mark/dash... People should understand that ARAM also is a team game and this starts in champion selection. The damage dealt/received modifiers Riot tries to implement are a terrible idea, btw. All they do is create a special ARAM environment with it's own ruleset. This creates a lot of problems if players swap gamemodes constantly - compare to higher zoom-out factor which messes up range-predicting etc ("muscle memory"). Not even taking into consideration how seldom Riot balances non-standard-SR modes while constantly changing the balance of items and champions...
I also think that the rules for the damage and modifiers should stay the same through the entire game. But I don't think that there should be things like viable comps and champion pools in a Random mode. After all, its purpose is to get something that you don't have a choice on and to make the best of it, not to build a viable team comp. This is why I think that classic ARAM is better. Not that building a good team comp is a bad thing, it is essential for a great game, but simply not in this mode. It takes away from its purpose.
justMvN (EUW)
: I'm glad some people like you actually take the time and effort to write something like this which hopefully will be heard by Riot as well since it seems to be getting some sort of attention on this board to say the least. But first and foremost I also want to clarify that the following is just my personal opinion I'm stating as well and hope people might join in in this conversation to give some feedback. **About me** Let's start with some information about myself since I kinda know how some people like to argue about not being into League all too long etc. I've been playing League of Legends since season 1, pretty much play every season since season 3 (just) up to platinum+ and stop there since I don't want to spent the time grinding for higher ranks to drop lp and get demoted after a couple of days of inactivity for whatever reason (e.g. holiday). Moreover I'm not a too competetive player (at least in League) which is just one of the many reasons I stuck to and learned love ARAM where I've currently played roughly over 4651 games of since introduction of the official mode. Now let us get to the **experimental changes** listed above by **RiCaR1** and some other ones in the current patch 9.7. * **Bans** - While I also don't get why anyone would implement them into ARAM (intended fun mode) and kinda like the solution of **FR4GGEL** to simply make all champions free to play for everyone to get rid of the ARAM accounts (even though I don't really mind those) I can see the problem here for Riot. If you'd do that most people wouldn't feel the need to ever unlock the champions in the shop for the normal mode in case they'd only play ARAMs which kinda ruins Riots idea of how the shop for champions is managed with blue essences. It might be hard to imagine but blue essences would then be even more useless. However with bans now implemented you could almost compare it with simply removing the blind pick mode for Summoners Rift which is ridiculous. * **Poke protection** - I don't get this change either. Yes, it can be frustrating in case the enemy team get's something like a Varus, Xerath, Velkoz, Lux, Kaisa etc. in the same team. But in all seriousness... How often does that really occur? In all my 4650+ ARAM's I might have had a single game where our team didn't have chance. If at all.... It always depends how you play it out especially after the implementation of Mark/Dash which helped melee champions immensely to find engages against such comps. The only thing I'd eventually change there is to lower it's cooldown overall down from 48 to flat 30 and remove the punishment/reward of missing/hitting the mark due to a 48 seconds cooldown being very unforgiving in ARAM in case you miss it and 36 if you hit it. Like that I'd imagine there would be way more openings against poke comps. * since **RiCaR1** mentioned **Warmogs** as well... Here's the point where I disagree with him. It is basically the current poke protection for tanks in midgame just like lifesteal/spellvamp in general as well as several runes like Bloodline, Taste of Blood, Second Wind etc. which is fine in my opinion at least. * **Increase of minion spawnrate** - A pretty welcome change to make the games a bit faster even though it can lead to several champions not being able to utilize their midgame power all that much due to the midgame being shortened by that. However you could argue that other champions on the flipside get to their lategame items way faster. It might need some more time of testing. * **Runes** - Probably my favourite change of this patch which I really appreciate since some runes compared to each other are just way too good/bad depending on how you want to see it or simply not even viable so that some even were already getting automatically changed before this patch (e.g. Gathering Storm). * **Mariner's Vengeance** - First off to my now most hated item in ARAM: Mariner's Vengeance. Personally I think this item is completely over the top. The reasoning behind that is that it can be very easily be abused by hypercarries like a Vayne for example which is easily able to rip almost half your team apart in the 4 second duration of the item (which literally is an eternity in this game; especially in case she goes crit and/or she gets to your backline). But that's not just an issue with hypercarries. Another example are Fighters like Riven who have an extremely high damage output with their regular spells due to the item refunding all cooldowns except the Ultimate which can be obnoxious to deal with as well. The items user getting instantaneously cleansed by any crowd control and not having any stasis/windup time like the regular Guardian's Angel isn't really helping to do anything against that too. The passive alone is just way too strong. * **Ghostwalkers** - Since they are back once again... Just a very strong item in generaI if you use them correctly. I don't see too much of a problem with them except it being eventually a bit hard to keep track of somebody running inside the walls due to the effects visibility not being "eye-catchy" enough. Yes, I get that it's supposed to be like that to fit the theme of it supposedly being an option especially for assassins. The question here is just if your team is hypothetically dodging skillshots of 4 people while a "wild" Amumu suddenly appears out of the wall without anyone noticing it's just rough. So it could be a little more vibrant I'd say. * **Backtrack/removal of Barrier** - Personally a big fan of Backtrack since it's really fun to use and has a lot of interactions and synergy with several abilities. Mostly beneficial for Assassins but can also be an exceptionally good spell to kite as an ADC for example even though the 2,5 seconds delay seems very long in that case. But did we really had to remove Barrier for that? While Barrier was one of the most popular spells to be taken in ARAM I think Backtrack is easily on par with it due to it's versatileability in creating plays. * **Butcher's Bridge** - While I think Butcher's Bridge looks more appealing and interesting in terms of the overall theme/design than the Howling Abyss I've got to say that it's visibility-wise especially the usage of Mark/Dash way worse. Probably due to the fire's orange lights. However you could argue that it's better in terms of visibility for several abilities using blue/white particles than the Howling Abyss. On the flipside it's worse for orange and green-ish abilities because of the contrasts. So it's just what you prefer... For me personally still the Howling Abyss. Would be great to be able to switch the skins via the ingame options since it basically isn't affecting the gameplay I'd assume. I hope I've more or less everything covered. Thanks for everyone reading this and taking into consideration to join this topic in advance. Time will tell what's gonna happen I guess. Have a nice one. {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-rainbows}}
Hey, thanks for the great reply. It's a great addition to what I wrote since you covered the new items introduced in this patch and more. I've also played the game for a long time (after the end of S1) and like you, I also stopped playing ranked several seasons ago in plat since it wasn't really fun for me and didn't see the purpose of it all anymore. Since then I'm playing mostly Aram and some normals. On most of the things here we agree and there is no need to go deeper into them but what I want to point out some of the things you've said and maybe why we think differently of them. First, about the unlock of all champions. In my experience, many people simply refuse to purchase champions just because they have already bought the ones they want to play within ARAM. When it comes to normals games, where you choose what to pick, having more champions don't have any negative sides as at least you might be able to pick/trade for your teammates. But in ARAM having champions you don't want to play makes the chances to get something you want to play worse. So, if all the champions are unlocked for ARAM people wouldn't mind buying all of the champions, because that doesn't make their chances any worse as it does now. People will still feel the need to buy all of the champions because of the Normal and Ranked games most of them play and why wouldn't they? There is no downside to it anymore. The second thing is about Warmog. This item is not a poke protection at the moment. It is an abomination. The whole purpose of ARAM is to survive as long as you can with your current hp. With Warmog the tank simply gets out of combat for 10 seconds and it is on full hp again. This is ridiculous. The change they are introducing might fix it, I don't know. But I think that having such item in a mode like ARAM, where you can't go to the base to heal is not good at all. You don't just protect yourself from the poke, you make the poke useless with this item. But hey, this is what I think, after all, you might be right. Still, it is nice to have an open conversation about this. GL & HF
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: > [{quoted}](name=Time Freak,realm=EUNE,application-id=ETj6EdvQ,discussion-id=PdYBZAv0,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-01-28T19:18:00.573+0000) > > It's really funny that mission progress breaks so often, like this litteraly happens during every event. +1. Come to think of it, isn't it time that this issue was resolved by now? If it's been such a big problem for every new event why's it not seen a permanent fix by now? Shouldn't it be one of the main focus points for every new event? I mean, how hard can it be?
> [{quoted}](name=Rågnärök,realm=EUW,application-id=ETj6EdvQ,discussion-id=PdYBZAv0,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2019-01-28T19:36:35.356+0000) > > +1. Come to think of it, isn't it time that this issue was resolved by now? If it's been such a big problem for every new event why's it not seen a permanent fix by now? Shouldn't it be one of the main focus points for every new event? > > I mean, how hard can it be? Every time it's the same again and again such a disappointment.
: New Event new bug ?
Well, another event another bug. I was hyped to get a mission or two, disappointed as usual...
: Missions
Click on match history does it show it to you? Mine just bugged and have no progress as well.
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Cypherous (EUW)
: > This is illegal, and now you cry that your account got banned? Seriously? Its not actually "illegal" its against the ToS so the worst they can do is ban him, if it were illegal it would imply he could be charged with a crime
> [{quoted}](name=Cypherous,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=RrQNerHU,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2018-08-19T21:07:39.078+0000) > > Its not actually "illegal" its against the ToS so the worst they can do is ban him, if it were illegal it would imply he could be charged with a crime Exactly, but don't try to argue with the people here, SJW on this forum don't have common sense, so it is not worth your time trying :D. GL!
: the awful state of this community
Most of the good players left the game because they became tired of this stupid tank meta that is suffocating the gameplay, so don't expect anything good in the future.
Rioter Comments
: So heres a good question would you sign a contract without reading the small print? Even then it was nothing like that the changes to orange essence wernt hard to find at all
> [{quoted}](name=TormentedSalad,realm=EUW,application-id=VnI9tlaf,discussion-id=KhcRJ4he,comment-id=000000000000000100000000000000000001,timestamp=2017-11-13T23:18:53.934+0000) > > So heres a good question would you sign a contract without reading the small print? Even then it was nothing like that the changes to orange essence wernt hard to find at all I'll ask you even a better question. You are signing a contract with small text that you don't even know exists, will you do it? Yes, cause you don't know its there thats the point of it being small in first place.
MogzyH (EUW)
: Man I agreed with you until you said about people with shitty gameplay. What is it with this community that makes them want players that have a shit game banned so badly? Skill is NOT reportable. If they are trolling and inting, of course report that moron, but if they go 3/12 because their lane was ganked 5 times in the first 3 minutes, and the team did nothing but flame instead of help, they don't deserve a report.. aptijoetjoueay this topic annoys me why does 90% of this community think skill is reportable
> [{quoted}](name=MogzyH,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=TdiBGIXt,comment-id=000b0002,timestamp=2017-11-13T22:52:27.098+0000) > > Man I agreed with you until you said about people with shitty gameplay. What is it with this community that makes them want players that have a shit game banned so badly? Skill is NOT reportable. If they are trolling and inting, of course report that moron, but if they go 3/12 because their lane was ganked 5 times in the first 3 minutes, and the team did nothing but flame instead of help, they don't deserve a report.. > > aptijoetjoueay this topic annoys me why does 90% of this community think skill is reportable Becuase this is suppose to be a competitive game and not a chat room??? Now with the Worlds and everything it looks like a real sport... And guess what is most important in sport and everything that has to do with competition - skill. After all you enter LoL to play, not talk with people. If you want to do that you can as well go in some kind of forum or w/e. Furthermore, no one is saying someone should get baned cause he got a bad game, all Im saying is that they pay too much attention to what people say, when there is a solution built in game - the mute button. On the other hand no one does anything to improve the quality of gameplay and to hold people responsible for their actions outside the game chat...
Noezholio (EUW)
: Welcome to the grown up world where its your responsibility to get information as mommy isn't there to present it to you. And most people got the information that orange essence is involved. Maybe thats also because the notification in the client said essence and not specified blue essence. Come on how long have you been plaing this game? You should know that riot is vry clear in what they actually mean when it comes to those things. Just look at the missions. If a game is required they are very specific what exactly is needed. Play a game: Yeah play any gamemode. Play a Matchmade game: Aram, Twisted Treeline pvp or botgame, SR pvp or botgame. Just no customs. Pvp Matchmade game: well you guess just take away those botgames. Pvp Matchmade on insert map name here: there you go. Use your brain mate. Even if there wasn't a bright flashing notification all over your screen to tell you even organe essence was affected you should have known this. Either by reading it, again it was all over the place, or actually thinking for once.
> [{quoted}](name=Noezholio,realm=EUW,application-id=VnI9tlaf,discussion-id=KhcRJ4he,comment-id=000000000000000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-11-13T23:07:31.919+0000) > > Welcome to the grown up world where its your responsibility to get information as mommy isn't there to present it to you. > > And most people got the information that orange essence is involved. > Maybe thats also because the notification in the client said essence and not specified blue essence. > Come on how long have you been plaing this game? You should know that riot is vry clear in what they actually mean when it comes to those things. Just look at the missions. If a game is required they are very specific what exactly is needed. > Play a game: Yeah play any gamemode. > Play a Matchmade game: Aram, Twisted Treeline pvp or botgame, SR pvp or botgame. Just no customs. > Pvp Matchmade game: well you guess just take away those botgames. > Pvp Matchmade on insert map name here: there you go. > Use your brain mate. Even if there wasn't a bright flashing notification all over your screen to tell you even organe essence was affected you should have known this. Either by reading it, again it was all over the place, or actually thinking for once. Yes, welcome to the grown up world where people have real responsibilties and not the ones you apparently have. Due to this we can't all read every line that Riot post anywhere. Furthermore, they cover everything so well, why didn't they cover this the same way????? This is what I wonder. And now lets see what you say about this, I need your opinion as responsible adult... https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/6rAnRELs-riot-please-be-clear-about-changes-to-orange-essence read the first comment, even the guy admited they didn't cover it clear enough and yet you are telling they have :D:D:D Fanboys/girls will never fail to amuse me. And leave aside your insulting attitude its funny when you are not intelligent enough to use it.
: Meh, it's not like being a snowflake, it's like learning to behave. I bet my house that 98% of the ragers wouldn't vent like that if they were in the same room with the people they are raging at. I know a lot of keyboard lions that are real life sheeps. I have no problems with criticism and I am the first to acknowledge my mistakes, but calling someone F####ot, Mother##r is not something you'd do face to face or for a game that is supposed to be fun. You can thrash talk people only if you have the guts to do it face to face and suffer the consequences, otherwise you are not a man, just a coward bully. Not calling you any of the above, I am just generally speaking. And, for God Sake, it's only a game. Peace
> [{quoted}](name=WorstLoLplayerEU,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=TdiBGIXt,comment-id=000b0001,timestamp=2017-11-13T17:48:09.573+0000) > > Meh, it's not like being a snowflake, it's like learning to behave. > I bet my house that 98% of the ragers wouldn't vent like that if they were in the same room with the people they are raging at. > I know a lot of keyboard lions that are real life sheeps. > I have no problems with criticism and I am the first to acknowledge my mistakes, but calling someone F####ot, Mother##r is not something you'd do face to face or for a game that is supposed to be fun. > You can thrash talk people only if you have the guts to do it face to face and suffer the consequences, otherwise you are not a man, just a coward bully. > Not calling you any of the above, I am just generally speaking. > And, for God Sake, it's only a game. > > Peace Yeah, its only a game and these punishments they take it way too seriously - saying some mean words to a random stranger on the internet, big deal, I mean who cares of someone called you a "bad person" lets say :D. You have mute button and if you don't want to listen to the bs of others pres it, its right there, thats my point.
: > [{quoted}](name=RiCaR1,realm=EUW,application-id=VnI9tlaf,discussion-id=KhcRJ4he,comment-id=00090000,timestamp=2017-11-13T16:54:53.212+0000) > > Good for you, sadly you must have really poor perception. _The TLDR is that ALL shard disenchant values are being changed from 33% of value to 20% of value. So if you have shards lying around that you're not intending to use, we recommend disenchanting them before preseason kicks off on November 8th to get the most possible essence out of them_ I make up for my poor perception with the ability of read. Thought it was a very common feat, but probably i underestimated it.
> [{quoted}](name=Sarchiapon,realm=EUW,application-id=VnI9tlaf,discussion-id=KhcRJ4he,comment-id=000900000000,timestamp=2017-11-13T18:03:36.798+0000) > > _The TLDR is that ALL shard disenchant values are being changed from 33% of value to 20% of value. So if you have shards lying around that you're not intending to use, we recommend disenchanting them before preseason kicks off on November 8th to get the most possible essence out of them_ > > I make up for my poor perception with the ability of read. Thought it was a very common feat, but probably i underestimated it. Didn't mean your understanding of the change, but as I said bad perceptions.... But anyways, the message was there and as I already explained so many times it's not that they didn't state it, the problem is that the way they did, this made so many people think it's only about Blue essence. I explained it several times in this post, sorry don't want to make anohter big comment. Anyways, GL!
Noezholio (EUW)
: Well as i am a person who read about the changes i would rather question your ability to read than mine. Just check the board posts of roughly a month to two weeks before preseason hits, and the reddit posts, like every fifth one of them says "Convert your essence now" It was everywhere. When you were able to read. Its mentioned in the faq for the preseason changes which is also linked in the patchnotes. It was said in at least two articles about the changes to hextech crafting and essence that have been released over the past few months. This was coming for us. And we knew it. For months. And i really think as a person playing this game it is my responsibility to stay up to date and read up on things regarding changes to the game rather than riot having to just shove all the information directly into my face. Which they actually did with the client notification. You are just trying to blame someone else for your mistake here.
"i really think as a person playing this game it is my responsibility to stay up to date" I keked way too much on this part. But anyways, again unable to understand so I'll use caps on the important part this time THE PROBLEM ISN'T THAT IT WASN'T THERE IT WAS HOW IT WAS PRESENTED. When you talk so much about Blue essence and all the changes that come with it - the drop from leveling (only champ shards-meaning blue essence), what will be its worth now and so much more and you use "Convert your essence now" many people will be left to think you are talking just about it. If this is part of your "responsibilties" its't not part of mine. Such big changes should be presented in a way that most of the people will understand about them, not only the "responsible" ones. How come everybody knew about the changes to the Blue essences and the runes and there is no doubt about that, but many people like me didn't find about the change to the orange essence until it was too late. Well, one was introduced really well and made it to the public preatty easy, while the other was like the little text in the bottom of the page, just like you sign a contract with a bank.
Lil Tezzy (EUW)
: Just got Banned for 14 Days (Chat Log Below)
Dude, you did nothing wrong but posting it here will not help you sadly.... LoL is just full of sensitive little snowflakes and whenever they read something they don't like, they know one thing - report report report. Riot just wants to make them happy, so they can feel secure and purchase stuff when they are comfortable. There is a mute button ffs I don't see the big deal about flaming if there is this simple solution for it. And yet people get banned for bs like this, while random players that are "positive and friendly" come and ruin entire games with their shitty gameplay. Nothing is done to them. We grew up playing Online games and in none of them there was even chat filter or something like that, yet today everyone is offended by everything... Wish you GL with your ticket mate!
: This thing has been known for months and there's been even a in-built client message about it. And i can't get how someone could have possibly thought that it was only blue essence they were talking about. For me, it was clear from day one both that both type of essence were involved.
> [{quoted}](name=Sarchiapon,realm=EUW,application-id=VnI9tlaf,discussion-id=KhcRJ4he,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2017-11-12T20:49:44.952+0000) > > This thing has been known for months and there's been even a in-built client message about it. > > And i can't get how someone could have possibly thought that it was only blue essence they were talking about. For me, it was clear from day one both that both type of essence were involved. Good for you, sadly you must have really poor perception.
YakuzaA (EUW)
: Same here.. I need to disenchant 4 Epics to get Super Galaxy Kindred. The argument that we earn more Essence because we get Lv up Drops is just wrong ! You only get champ shards, so the total hextech chest system is just useless if you dont want to reroll every Skin. For example : if you unbox an ultimate Skin (you should be really lucky if you do) you need 2950 OE to upgrade it to permanent. Thats 11 Epic Skin Shards/ 16 975RP Shards/29 520RP Shards How should this work ? Also if you buy hextech chests it will be really hard to do this. The Chests arent worth anything atm tbh. If you buy RP they are useless if you get them after a good game they are also useless..
> [{quoted}](name=YakuzaA,realm=EUW,application-id=VnI9tlaf,discussion-id=KhcRJ4he,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2017-11-12T13:11:35.467+0000) > > Same here.. I need to disenchant 4 Epics to get Super Galaxy Kindred. The argument that we earn more Essence because we get Lv up Drops is just wrong ! You only get champ shards, so the total hextech chest system is just useless if you dont want to reroll every Skin. > > For example : if you unbox an ultimate Skin (you should be really lucky if you do) you need 2950 OE to upgrade it to permanent. Thats 11 Epic Skin Shards/ 16 975RP Shards/29 520RP Shards > > How should this work ? Also if you buy hextech chests it will be really hard to do this. The Chests arent worth anything atm tbh. If you buy RP they are useless if you get them after a good game they are also useless.. Yes, you are right. I was lucky enough to get DJ Sona last year. Had to save the skin shards for months to made it though, as many of the chests droped champs too. Now, I just can't imagine this happening and if you get lucky and get something else you like in the meantime... it's impossible.
: We'll also get more skin shards via bad luck protection and double loot, and also from extra chests.
> [{quoted}](name=Ajimu Najimi,realm=EUW,application-id=VnI9tlaf,discussion-id=KhcRJ4he,comment-id=000300000001,timestamp=2017-11-12T12:57:30.091+0000) > > We'll also get more skin shards via bad luck protection and double loot, and also from extra chests. This exchange is not worth it no matter how you look at it, though.
: WTF?! They said it would be only for champ shards! That's why I kept all my expensive skin shards! Now they're worth less! I feel scammed! Arcade MF, Dunkmaster Darius, Brolaf and Star Guardian Lux are worthless now!
> [{quoted}](name=Snibedi Snab xDD,realm=EUNE,application-id=VnI9tlaf,discussion-id=KhcRJ4he,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2017-11-12T12:24:30.338+0000) > > WTF?! They said it would be only for champ shards! That's why I kept all my expensive skin shards! Now they're worth less! I feel scammed! Arcade MF, Dunkmaster Darius, Brolaf and Star Guardian Lux are worthless now! Same.....
: I saw this right after the patch. I have God Fist Lee Sin who now can be sold for 364 OE instead 450 OE before the patch, but because i wanted to have him cuz its good one /even if i dont play Lee/ its price is same 1520 OE...i can kinda understand if Rito want us to get skin from hextech only when we really want them, not for a collection or its just good one, but cmon-we still would buy skins cuz we cant wait for rng hextech crafting for our mains! BTW this reminds me to ask for more skins on sale monthly, cuz skins are too many already!
> [{quoted}](name=0111001001100001,realm=EUNE,application-id=VnI9tlaf,discussion-id=KhcRJ4he,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2017-11-12T07:29:46.904+0000) > > I saw this right after the patch. I have God Fist Lee Sin who now can be sold for 364 OE instead 450 OE before the patch, but because i wanted to have him cuz its good one /even if i dont play Lee/ its price is same 1520 OE...i can kinda understand if Rito want us to get skin from hextech only when we really want them, not for a collection or its just good one, but cmon-we still would buy skins cuz we cant wait for rng hextech crafting for our mains! > BTW this reminds me to ask for more skins on sale monthly, cuz skins are too many already! Damn, I want this shard too. Hope I get as lucky as you someday :)
Noezholio (EUW)
: I really don't thin there is any way to justify any complaint here. There has been a popup within the client for basically two weeks now. There have been numerous posts everywhere and even in the articles regarding the changes to blue essence. Those people who didn'T get it were simply those who jsut didn't care at all. Any person who roughly read throught he changes coming and was sort of invested in these thigns knew what was coming so this is probably the one thing which you simply can'T hold riot accountable for. This is all just on you.
> [{quoted}](name=Noezholio,realm=EUW,application-id=VnI9tlaf,discussion-id=KhcRJ4he,comment-id=00000000000000010000,timestamp=2017-11-11T19:48:40.374+0000) > > I really don't thin there is any way to justify any complaint here. > There has been a popup within the client for basically two weeks now. There have been numerous posts everywhere and even in the articles regarding the changes to blue essence. > > Those people who didn'T get it were simply those who jsut didn't care at all. Any person who roughly read throught he changes coming and was sort of invested in these thigns knew what was coming so this is probably the one thing which you simply can'T hold riot accountable for. > This is all just on you. Yes, exactly numerous there were posts about the changes about blue essence and the changes about orange essence where are the tons of articles about that? Do you even read before you write????
LazySlav (EUNE)
: What happened is - Riot got even more greedy... I got epic skin shard (Soarding Sword Fiora) and for disenchant i get 270 OE... 270!!! While if i want this skin perma i will have to spend 1050 OE!!! Chances to get skin you want from hextech was always low, but whit this new update they made those chances to drop to zero!
> [{quoted}](name=LazySlav,realm=EUNE,application-id=VnI9tlaf,discussion-id=KhcRJ4he,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-11-11T18:35:40.719+0000) > > What happened is - Riot got even more greedy... > > I got epic skin shard (Soarding Sword Fiora) and for disenchant i get 270 OE... 270!!! While if i want this skin perma i will have to spend 1050 OE!!! > > Chances to get skin you want from hextech was always low, but whit this new update they made those chances to drop to zero! I don't understand the reason behind it. They say that we get shards more often now, but we get champ shards not skins shards + we don't get any ip now. This is bs and the way they made it happen without gaining much attention is really disgusting.
: Their fault with those things. Too hard to read things. Some people in game said that the new runes suck and they are bad. Asked them if they even read what they do. They said no. {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}} Still the runes need a lot of balance, but when people actually start reading them, they will see what actually needs balance.
> [{quoted}](name=Biscuit Bite,realm=EUNE,application-id=VnI9tlaf,discussion-id=KhcRJ4he,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2017-11-11T16:50:50.030+0000) > > Their fault with those things. Too hard to read things. > > Some people in game said that the new runes suck and they are bad. Asked them if they even read what they do. They said no. > > {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}} > > Still the runes need a lot of balance, but when people actually start reading them, they will see what actually needs balance. > I never said information wasn't available, it was there. But the problem is that it wasn't well introduced. Its not me and my friends that are the only people here that don't dig into FAQ and stuff like this. The problem is that while everything was so well explained about the blue essence and so much was talked about it, this change was put aside and didn't get the needed attention by Riot. What this did is that it made it hard for common people like me that are only reading the main topics about the game and don't get into details unable to find out about it and by combining it with the blue essesnce left many people thinking the change was only for champion shards. Plus there should've been a greater discussion about this as I and I bet many others think this change is unreasonable since we'll get only champ shards from leveling up+we no longer get IP from playing games and about gem stones that drop they are milestone rewards, meaning really rare. > To make it even more clear for you - the problem is that this didn't get the attention it needed. its an answer from below...
Smerk (EUW)
: Only notification talked about essence without any clarification. But that notification also contained direct link to FAQ and there was detailed information, that explicitly said that all shards are affected: champions, skins and wards. And people can't blame Riot if they assumed that only champion shards will lose value and didn't ask for clarification, a lot of players did exactly that and weren't caught by surprise when patch arrived
> [{quoted}](name=Smerk,realm=EUW,application-id=VnI9tlaf,discussion-id=KhcRJ4he,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2017-11-11T16:11:10.404+0000) > > Only notification talked about essence without any clarification. But that notification also contained direct link to FAQ and there was detailed information, that explicitly said that all shards are affected: champions, skins and wards. > > And people can't blame Riot if they assumed that only champion shards will lose value and didn't ask for clarification, a lot of players did exactly that and weren't caught by surprise when patch arrived I never said information wasn't available, it was there. But the problem is that it wasn't well introduced. Its not me and my friends that are the only people here that don't dig into FAQ and stuff like this. The problem is that while everything was so well explained about the blue essence and so much was talked about it, this change was put aside and didn't get the needed attention by Riot. What this did is that it made it hard for common people like me that are only reading the main topics about the game and don't get into details unable to find out about it and by combining it with the blue essesnce left many people thinking the change was only for champion shards. Plus there should've been a greater discussion about this as I and I bet many others think this change is unreasonable since we'll get only champ shards from leveling up+we no longer get IP from playing games and about gem stones that drop they are milestone rewards, meaning really rare. To make it even more clear for you - the problem is that this didn't get the attention it needed.
Rioter Comments
: Presenting the EU Boards Discord!
Hansiman (EUNE)
: You can create a discussion in the [Teams & Clubs](http://boards.eune.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/team-recruitment-en) sub-board and see if anyone has a club dedicated to the matter, or you can set up your own club and recruit people in the same sub-board.
> [{quoted}](name=Hansiman,realm=EUNE,application-id=WtAasNBw,discussion-id=krPHOdnK,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-10-08T20:14:24.873+0000) > > You can create a discussion in the [Teams & Clubs](http://boards.eune.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/team-recruitment-en) sub-board and see if anyone has a club dedicated to the matter, or you can set up your own club and recruit people in the same sub-board. Ok, thx mate! GL!
Hansiman (EUNE)
: You'll have to be invited into a club, yes. There are a lot of public clubs that invite people of common interests, so you could find a public ARAM club to join. Personally I think the current alternatives, such as Discord communities, are better than what Riot can offer through a club based in the client.
> [{quoted}](name=Hansiman,realm=EUNE,application-id=WtAasNBw,discussion-id=krPHOdnK,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2017-10-08T20:08:39.274+0000) > > You'll have to be invited into a club, yes. There are a lot of public clubs that invite people of common interests, so you could find a public ARAM club to join. > > Personally I think the current alternatives, such as Discord communities, are better than what Riot can offer through a club based in the client. I'll try with discord even though I have never used it before and seems like a lot of mess to me now that I'm looking at it. Sorry for the stupid question but how can I ask to be invited into public ARAM club?
Hansiman (EUNE)
: Greetings. Chat rooms have been replaced by clubs. There are also many communities where you can find players to queue up with. We have a [EU Boards Discord](https://boards.eune.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/off-topic-en/RvRMwQ8E-presenting-the-eu-boards-discord) server, for instance.
> [{quoted}](name=Hansiman,realm=EUNE,application-id=WtAasNBw,discussion-id=krPHOdnK,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-10-08T20:03:25.573+0000) > > Greetings. > > Chat rooms have been replaced by clubs. > > There are also many communities where you can find players to queue up with. We have a [EU Boards Discord](https://boards.eune.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/off-topic-en/RvRMwQ8E-presenting-the-eu-boards-discord) server, for instance. Hey, thanks for the fast response. I tought clubs are like guilds in Wow and you have to be invited. So, I can go and find ARAM club for an instance?
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vikinator (EUW)
: Is ban for flaming justified?
Yo, its 2017 people simply want to be victims. Of course they can use mute button, but why do that when they can later brag how toxic community is and how much hate they have experienced. Riot prefers to ban people because of what they say because it is easier to justify the ban by saying "here is your chat log you used this word and this word", especially now, when anything you say can be "considered insulting". No matter how bad you play or troll your team, you will be safe from punishment, but if you insult a person that is ruining your game on purpose you are #1 in their toxic list. This is how it goes its not fair or anything close to it. Just don't bother you can't change it.
: You don't care enough to explain because you can't do it and ur ego is too big to admit it. I don't care enough to make you realize or say anything so yeah think whatever you want Lol.
> [{quoted}](name=Armadilllo,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=PIPrQEH5,comment-id=0002000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-07-13T17:52:58.710+0000) > > You don't care enough to explain because you can't do it and ur ego is too big to admit it. > I don't care enough to make you realize or say anything so yeah think whatever you want Lol. Nah, I can do it but from what I already read so far from you I just know you are ignorant little rant and you won't even comprehend it, so its pointless. I'll be able to think w/e I want y, its ability you don't poses.
: Oh wow look who realized that 1v1s are stupid when it comes to proving something in a team game, who would've thought.
> [{quoted}](name=Armadilllo,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=PIPrQEH5,comment-id=00020000000000000000,timestamp=2017-07-12T10:35:34.121+0000) > > Oh wow look who realized that 1v1s are stupid when it comes to proving something in a team game, who would've thought. I never said 1v1 is stupid I said what you said is stupid and I dont care enough to explain...
: Oh wow the typical "1v1 me " when you don't have anymore arguments and this is a 5v5 team game.Find 8 more players of the same elo and let's play a game then see how it goes with your tank fantasies when i'll kite the shit out of you. And if you really want a carry vs tank 1v1 sure go ahead but that will prove pretty much nothing.
> [{quoted}](name=Armadilllo,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=PIPrQEH5,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2017-07-11T11:27:23.610+0000) > > Oh wow the typical "1v1 me " when you don't have anymore arguments and this is a 5v5 team game.Find 8 more players of the same elo and let's play a game then see how it goes with your tank fantasies when i'll kite the shit out of you. > > And if you really want a carry vs tank 1v1 sure go ahead but that will prove pretty much nothing. After a while I realized I don't even care enough to explain how stupid this is and I doubt it will benefit me in anyway, so Y do as you wish idc, I doubt I'll even read what you write after this, so GL!
: Oh sorry it's not the tank's fault for you going melee ashe. Adcs mages and assassins always had more dmg than tanks, you don't know how to play and blame the game for it.
> [{quoted}](name=Armadilllo,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=PIPrQEH5,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-07-08T17:52:20.949+0000) > > Oh sorry it's not the tank's fault for you going melee ashe. Adcs mages and assassins always had more dmg than tanks, you don't know how to play and blame the game for it. Add me and Ill show u. Pick any carry u want and Ill take a tañk lets see what will happen. Aftér all I cant play right, what can go wrong? U want to bet a skin on it?
Rioter Comments
: Wait... there is no more keys unless you level up your honor level to 3? There is not even progress bar... wtf? Been playing yesterday and today, getting honors and messages that my progress moves up but no key, no level 3 and so
> [{quoted}](name=Daniel1993,realm=EUW,application-id=VnI9tlaf,discussion-id=81JJrNN2,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-07-02T07:53:19.629+0000) > > Wait... there is no more keys unless you level up your honor level to 3? There is not even progress bar... wtf? Been playing yesterday and today, getting honors and messages that my progress moves up but no key, no level 3 and so No, you still get them at level 2 but the problem is that is too random and the way it works....
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RiCaR1 (EUW)
: 2Towers9/11
> [{quoted}](name=RiCaR1,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=YcPgHwH9,comment-id=001c,timestamp=2017-05-22T11:59:56.181+0000) > > 2Towers9/11 it can be longer 2Towers9/11ff@20:01
: New nickname --> Free Mystery Skin/icon
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