Shiwah (EUW)
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> [{quoted}](name=Shiwah,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=BQJMTbVm,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-05-11T22:14:50.819+0000) > > Actually, psychological research shows that putting toxic with toxic only increases the toxicity. Think of prisons and the incidence rate of inmates returning to crime. Let me add here. Are you kidding me ? Do you completely eliminate a group of people, who served their time, reformed and stopped criminal activities? "Low priority Q" has the same principle in this case, it is extremely desturbing to play in and nobody would like to come back there after determined number of "Low Priority" games.
Shiwah (EUW)
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> [{quoted}](name=Shiwah,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=BQJMTbVm,comment-id=000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-05-11T22:43:22.047+0000) > > One of the points of upbringing is to teach children not to use other people as your personal punching bag, which means "teaching emotional control", so that they can live in society. You're saying that you lack emotional control and therefore, you're lacking maturity, and fully embrace it justifying it with "human nature" nonsense. I can take your phrases as an insult, and it is indeed and insult to call upon someone's lack of maturity. Its your negatively constructed opinion in a form of insult. I am sorry, but I fail to see the difference between your written expressions in the form of insult and "flame" as it is stated in summoner code. My opinion: it is hypocrisy. > Nothing wrong with it, but you shouldn't expect to be treated like a princess when you break the contracts you sign and demand privileges based on the money you spent into the game. Even restaurant owners can kick customers when they make a fuss in the premises, you know? Come on now, nobody kicks the highest paying customer out of restaurant (any fuss would be handled pretty nicely). Its not a video game FFS ! > > Funny, that's exactly the definition of egoism. Treating others like they're your salt shaker because you're the only important person in the world. In my honest opinion you as a member of community** Right Here **stated one of the **Biggest** sins of community. **Lack of Understanding**. On very very **Rare** occasions people **actually** think of themselves as **"the most important person in the world"**. **Multiple times** I added "trolls, afk and flamers" and asked them what happend. In "90%" of cases they can explain the root of their frustration and the future flame can be avoided. What chat ban and banning system does is increase the power of the flame by giving it extra spark (harsh concrete ban for specific number of games, which may well be unjustified). Am I being clear with my arguments?
Shiwah (EUW)
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Hold on. I meant phycological and spiritual components of personality, not trivial human needs (too broad and we far from it already). First. Every personlity has positive and negative emotions, which transform to various forms of human expressions. Thats what makes us humans. You cant force people to express only negative or only positive emotions. Second. Everyone is using online/offline gaming as a tool for emotional balance, everyone has specific reasons to play. (hardly ever realized) Someone expresses his negativity in games, to get rid of it in real life; someone wants to receive postitivity and fun gameplay. someone is intrested in programming, someone plays for fun. From every reason comes positive or negative feedback. And thats not ethically correct to punish players for every little detail, unless its a business plan :)
Ferrarii (EUW)
: I can only completely agree with u Rwobba.
Dude, I feel you. The amount of investment into the game, which was lost for stupid reason ("justified by formal guidlines"), is just frustrating. Thats why I never invest in such things. Unreliable and insecure.
Shiwah (EUW)
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Dota 2 has "Low priority Q", which is full of toxic trolls, it is a punishment system, very valid punishment system. I doubt you will ever encounter person, who continues flaming after he went through low priority. It is 9 rings of hell, which is 5 % of player base. Other 95% would never ever want to get into this hell. The system is valid, I can confirm it with my own experience in both game communities, BUT... it doesnt bring Valve any revenue... heheh (hint hint). Are you seriously using fairy tale as your valid argument? Where did you see people killing their stepchildren? Or children? What an absurd am I reading ? Like.... am I talking to an adult?
Shiwah (EUW)
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Dota 2. Toxicity is human nature, greed is human nature. Children and teenagers especially have their problems related directly to the age. You cant really "battle" human nature xD
Shiwah (EUW)
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Yes yes, but the system bans for extremely absurd things (any thing under description "negative attitude"). I bet there are a lot of reports that are exteremely unjustified. The toxic environment from bronze to approx. diamond 2 was created. There are tons of online games with much more friendly environment. Wonder why? People are still the same, but system is different. It is a problem, from which Riot walks away, moreover its not considered as "problem" :)
Kian987 (EUW)
: Shen (5th attempt in 2 years) Watch his games and you will see how op is shen in good hands
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Kian987 (EUW)
: Shen (5th attempt in 2 years)
Bro, you are d5 and the rest of seasons platinum. Shen is pretty busted with global ult and denial of autos. Ofc you are butthurt to play vs ardent supports every game, because shen is top laner, not support. There is a reason why riot team doesnt respond to cries.
Tengrî (EUNE)
: D2toplaner L4 team D5+
It says d5 0 lp.....
Rioter Comments
Vashtrall (EUW)
: Writtings of an extremely toxic reformed player.
You can never truly reform. It is a nature of a person. Emotional people are this way. Anyways, good luck trying <3
: >Nobody warms up on smurf, lmao ... >You are delusional Go take a good look in the mirror before you type shit lol.
No wonder you are d4. With that toxicity Im wondering how much you paid for the boost. I bet noone would like you as a teammate.
: xortix
: Looking for Bronze/Silver Duo Partner to climb! EUWest
Stevian21 (EUNE)
: well....Im a jungler and i always have dominance and pressure over my lane so regarding my lane I have nothing to worry about....The point is that after a moment mages like ahri can get away with anything because they lv up faster(**like 3 lv's_ in front)** than anyone and eventhough i support my mid i cant focus her cause of the feed....of course its silver and all the lanes pressure mid when they see an inter so either way i will spend time on mid and get reckt on the other lanes or i will focus on everyone else besides mid....Jungle can drastically impact the game but inting is the prob...
I stopped reading at 2nd sentence. You are a permanent variable in all your games, you decide win or lose. Only you.
perenold (EUNE)
: Trolls in champion select
Bro, post it on NA. Amazing ! Can I post it ? I will credit you On NA they will notice!
Stevian21 (EUNE)
: Regarding the carry issue: Its a team game and everyone supports each other....But when you dont have brain Its about throwing games....if u dont comprise with your teamates even once and give them 17 kills straight then dont expect your team to be 10/2 and carry game for you....YOur actions reflect on the whole team and not in just you alone
Exactly, so worry about yourself, and dont even look at ur teammates score, waste of time.
: D4 Jgl/AD player LF chill people to play normals with and have laughs :D
zze (EUW)
: smurf lf duo
Gold 4 :P
Jhensu (EUW)
: As a fellow high elo player, I can tell you that no people ever smurf for fun. (maybe some platinum/low diamonds might, but rarely) Most of the people either need a 2nd account for warmuping, because not everyone can jump instantly into a chall/master/d1 game, or they have been punished for toxicity, 14days ban/perma ban. And player has no power over that when its enough to say "%%%%" and you can get the penalty.
Well, diamond 4 is not high elo lul Nobody warms up on smurf, lmao Nobody get bans at higher elo, mate. Who the %%% will flame and troll in d1? It happens 1 out 100 games. Lmao You are delusional
: They smurf because they got where they wanted or because they want to try something new. Normal games are worse at plat/diamond mmr than Gold ranked games.
1 smart man, thanks! But plat is where people luke me smurf I jumped gold silver with troll picks. so "smurfs" in gold are not smurfs
Stevian21 (EUNE)
: Unfair Teams
Bro, every elo is like this. You must 1 vs 5 every game in every elo, if you wanna climb. If u cant 1 vs 5, you can not climb. Learn champs and game better
: need help climbing silver
Pick solo lane, learn 3 champs mechanically good, learn their counters, read about wave management, win your lane, roam other lanes, push the lanes, get inhibs and win. No need to teamfight or wait for your teammates. Easy road to plat, here you go, enjoy.
Moon Moon X (EUNE)
: Strange feeling...
: It Happened
Bruh, the absurd thing that you just wrote deserves to be deleted from the boards. Thats just pathetic
karvin (EUNE)
: Shitty players that flame and troll all the time
Rioter Comments
Hydnoras (EUW)
: Depends on the time of day and if lcs is going on. Right now it has second most viewers (during lcs it has by far the most). This has also happened before and twitch is losing its overall popularity. Youtube is going to be the platform everyone is on if it isn't already. Not to mention that stream views mean absolutely nothing when it comes to player count. Believe it or not, most players would rather play the game themselves. Also fortnite is at the top only because it's new. It's gonna be below league again after a while.
Same happend to Overwatch. Now its way below league Lol
: Why Are Riot Breaking The Game With Every Patch?!
A lot more people start to play league than leave it. That indicates that game gets better. Despite of all your arguments.
: > But does anyone really care about what level you've reached? Well some are spamming Bot games with exp boost and reached lv 400+ (lv 756 is the highest i think ) so i guess the answer is yes? For me the lv up system is bad anyways so i don't even care about the rewards.But yes it's a cool achivement imo .Think of it ,getting something higher than gold(plat/dia/master) gives only one "permanent" icon not even an emote or something decent so these emotes are fine as rewards but hard to get unless you gonna spamm 3vs3 bot games all day .
I want challenger jacket this season. Thats all i want {{sticker:darius-angry}}
: mechanics vs mentalit
90% mentality; 10 % skill, knowledge, mechanics You can meet ppl in high gold with the same mechanics as diamond players. Mentality is the most important part of the win. 99% of "lost games", where for example u lose 3 inhibs, can be won easily. Its typical and boring phrase: "never give up". The most mentally strong players are the most successfull players as in any sport.
Bunnylift (EUW)
: Hi! Long post inc on tilt and on revision of tactics. It's hard to say why this happens to you specifically, but I have some experience with frustration and tilt, both connected (but not the same). In my friend's case, who dropped even more than you, in my opinion, the reason was 100% tilt, and honestly, it may be for you also. I don't think that RNG can be such that you are having SO many bad games in a row that you're losing all of them. When it comes to these plat games, I also don't believe shifting meta can be THIS destructive to your ranking. HOWEVER: You also may be using a tactic that no longer works. Nami hardcarry decidedly stopped working somewhere after Plat 4-3 for me, and I had to seriously revise tactics (including builds, for example: mikael's was a buy I needed to seriously learn to use as it now was a lot more valuable than it was in gold). I also had to change my bans, no longer what I hate, but what really will make my lane impossible, even if I don't mind playing against it, because I was no longer so much better that every lane was a win no matter what - in fact, often people were better than me now (I was climbing as support, obviously). So I had to work around that. Pick smart, ban smart. I tried on my other account some other champions to see if I could find a fit. In the end I settled on a couple of champions that got me to Plat 1 99 LP, nothing really high, but considering I started in Bronze 3 when I started this game, I was still kinda proud. But at this point I again was at a point where I had to reconsider my tactic (sadly couldn't play more to try and get to diamond). So this could be the case for you also, your tactic that made you really "stuck" and now, coupled with that: the tilt. Tilting is actually heavily misunderstood. To tilt does not mean that you're raging, irritated, frustrating, or anything like that. That's when you're already really far gone. Tilting can be an assassin, a slight change of mood that will make you behave just a bit differently than you normally would - usually more reckless. Normally you wouldn't go into that river, now you did anyway. Normally you wouldn't go ward there, now you do. Normally you'd listen to that instinct to not go all-in, now you go anyway. In short, you go for plays where the risk is, honestly, greater than the reward, and even if those are small things, over the course of a game it will really influence the outcome. And then you're tilting yourself even more because, in the back of your head, you KNOW that you shouldn't have done it, you did it anyway, and honestly, nothing is more tilting than that. Then on top of that your jungler does something stupid (not helping!), now the game is over, and you queue again. Next game will be better, right? But no, same things happen (more reckless plays, you may not even notice it anymore at this point), and now you're also starting to get frustrated, so now you lose the game and you go again. Guess what happens, but now you're frustration is pretty high, but what are the odds you will lose the NEXT game also? So now you go into what my friends and I call "ragequeue". That's the riven who's been feeding 0/12 for the past 10 games and starts champion select by "top or int!!1" (though I guess with role select, you only discover these players too late...). What I'm saying is, even if you think you're not tilted, it could be you are. I have strict rules if I soloqueue. If I duo it's a bit different. 1) If I lose 3 games in a row, I stop completely. For the rest of the day. Not even normals, because normals do not cure tilt. I'm allowed 1-2 ARAM games, because those actually relax me. 2) If I feel fragile that day (gauge your mood before you start playing! Are you feeling chipper? A bit sad? A bit irritated? Stressed?) (fragile = stressed/sad/irritated/moodswings if you're female), stop after 2 games of loss, for the rest of the day. 3) NO normals or smurf accounts. Normals will still continue to fill your tilt gauge, it will certainly not help it drop it. You need a breather, not a milder version of your toxin. 4) In your case I'd take a really long break. We're talking weeks here. In my biggest tilt period (despite the rules, yes), I needed a 2 week break before I was even remotely normal. I can feel on champion select already this mild, nagging feeling in my stomach, a bit like impatience, and that's my sign how I recognize to be careful, tilt's waiting.. 5) My aforementioned friend quit League completely, recognizing he cannot play this game without destroying his mental health. He's recently come back to the game as my support (as I am now learning to adc), and since he's not playing to climb or even get better, and just absolutely for fun and laughs at my horrible Varus ults, he's been fine (largely). Still can't do too many games though. Maybe this is an approach you can try to teach yourself: play for ONE certain goal: NOT to climb, but to.... a) have fun b) learn this new role c) every game, find 5 things you did great and 5 things you did bad. With these kinds of goals, you're less likely to tilt because, well, you're now focused on yourself and your own improvement and with that comes losses. Even the tilted brain understands that. Anyway, good luck...! Hope it works out.
You are really good person. I can relate to a lot fo things. Thank you so much, I will try to use your tips! And yes, may be quitting is a good idea.
: I'm not quite sure if you're saying they ban accounts in order to make more money from new accounts but if that's what you're saying it's just wrong It's true that the end goal is to make money, but that's not a good way to go about it and they know it, firstly because permabanned players represent something like 0.006% of the playerbase, and for a company that makes billions already, trying to create a market based on those 0.006% of players is just a waste, focusing on the 99.994% that's left is much more beneficial to them Why they ban toxic players is because toxicity is the second biggest reason why players stop playing the game, players are up to 320% more likely to quit league the more toxicity they experience It's in riot's best interest to reduce toxicity players experience to a minimum to keep those players, not to make more money from the banned players If you wanna check where I'm getting those numbers from just go have a read here : Lot of useful information
Kàźuya (EUW)
: Wait what? its a fudging chat box how else am i supposed to use it? I used it to chat...thats it. I'll post chat logs after my game I am in lobby atm made a new account because temp banning people that use the chat function really helps also while banning people in general even hardcore flamers doesn't help they will just do what I've done and make a new account. They should look at other forms of punishment or even ways to help the toxic side of the community instead of forcing them to make a new account and continue their toxic behaviour there. I actually only replied to toxicity in matches and I was the one who got banned I never reported the actual toxic players so they got away with being toxic but still managed to get me the innocent party banned.
Do not be so silly, mate. Riot is a company, goal of any company is to increase its revenue, in other words earn more money. It is completely logical that the system is designed to earn more. Banning system is just another tool that enables this strategy of making new accounts etc. Just be smart and dont use chat, your whining here will not change anything, trust me After all, it is a free game, so they find other ways to earn money, mate
Brokenhz (EUW)
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: ign: Osenator and whats your main rank?
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: I've uninstalled 3 times in 2 weeks....
I can relate to it . Reached d3 year ago and now stuck in p3 (well, 3 days stuck). Game chages so fast and so dramatic, keeping up takes time
: > This is the first time I curse again on league: Go %%%% yourself and your mother Riot. You will lose alot of your player base I'm sure. "Reformed"
: Godlike Toplaner (p2) lf duo to get diamond jungle/mid/adc only
Bro, I added you when I was g2, you were so arrogant. Now I am p4. I bet you are not gonna be arrogant when i get d5. I hate those kind of people.
Hydnoras (EUW)
: I actually do. And i'm not a gold 4 player. This account might be gold 4 but it's permanently banned and not my main account (which is also now permanently banned lol so i only got one account that i can play on).
I guess the bans were completely justified then.
: > [{quoted}](name=Rwobba,realm=EUW,application-id=jeJYsmwG,discussion-id=kK5zdE9v,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-04-30T00:48:40.074+0000) > > Well, his MMR is low diamond high plat. And everything below d3 is the same elo. > This could be silver, gold or plat game and you wont see the difference. You don't see a difference between D4 and S4...right buddy. Way to be delusional.
D3 and D4 are 2 walls, where games are coin flip. You can put a silver player there and he might win the game. So ye.
Hydnoras (EUW)
: You don't know what you are talking about.
And you do, Mr Gold 4. Im sorry, my lord
Jedcore (EUW)
: The Reality of Game at Diamond II Elo
Well, his MMR is low diamond high plat. And everything below d3 is the same elo. This could be silver, gold or plat game and you wont see the difference.
JenShen (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Killler12308,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=Aqb9Uo0e,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-04-22T12:01:52.796+0000) > > Don&#x27;t listen to those dumb idiots in the comments. You did nothing wrong. The only thing that you did was flame back at someone. This should not be punishable. Riot&#x27;s system is %%%%ed up and I&#x27;m still wondering how this game is still alive You are right and if the system continue to go in this dirrection more and more people like this guy will get punish. and people play this game because it is addicting, some people are even addicted to the toxic enviroment. If the dreams of this communitie comes true and everyone become an angle in matches, this game will simply die because, tons of people are addicted to that exact Toxic behaviour they want to get rid of.
The system is designed to create an addiction, keep discussing your silly arguments. Its all based on what brings Riot more money. By the way, 99% of people with permabanned accounts create new acount and spend money on it. Keep believing in Unicorns xd
: I challenge you to the opposite: play a month with a daily schedule of a pro; aka 14 hours of playing and reviewing your games {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
Challenge accepted and completed. I play more than 14 hours a day. (sleep 1 time in 2 days)
Gutch (EUW)
: Haha i wish, actually just a Rakan main who has played him mid since the ap ratio buffs I'm a sub to Shiphtur :)
I like you can you add me ? XD
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