: Change title "Why im quitting league but i will play next month"
> [{quoted}](name=Xalasmeni Banana,realm=EUNE,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=eup7rwlK,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-07-21T14:43:42.206+0000) > > Change title "Why im quitting league but i will play next month" Make it "next week".
: Something wrong with the client?
To clarify, I am not particularly mad, I know this new game mode is stressing the server a lot, I understand that the first days we can expect some tech problems etc. I just wanted to be sure wasn't just my problem.
: Something wrong with the client?
Oh, is a server problem, I see. Nevermind then.
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=SAILOR SATANA,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=tV4WLQxj,comment-id=000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-27T10:26:10.741+0000) > > ...dude, what kind of example is that, lol. > WoW and Starcraft don't use the same exact graphic, assets etc, TFT and LoL do. > The way you play a game, the goals...it means NOTHING, literally NOTHING; all if matter if you use the same stuff to build the 2 modes, and the answer is clearly yes, LOL. > (and no, we had gamemodes with totally different goals btw) Just saying same client = same game is stupid. And it means something, just denying it like that won't change this fact. The build is not the same, only the images are. Indeed some gamemode had a different goal, but still the same champions with the same way to play it. Not like TFT. Not a gamemode, it's another game. Deal with it.
> [{quoted}](name=LightOfTheSeven,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=tV4WLQxj,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-27T10:32:28.581+0000) > >Deal with it. I absolutely LOVE how you talk big...while you clearly have ZERO clue about it <3 "The build is not the same" <3
: > [{quoted}](name=SAILOR SATANA,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=tV4WLQxj,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-27T09:55:18.215+0000) > > Ehm, makes 0 system for the system. > Is in the LoL client, for the game is exactly as a One for All or w/e, doesn't matter if the latter is just another version of LoL and TFT a game with nothing to do with it. You have WoW and Starcraft in the same client ofr Blizzard, does not mean both are linked. It would be stupid to develop another whole client for another game while the new client was designed to support more incoming games. Up to know, you had gamemodes, where you played champion almost exactly the same way, with exactly the same goal. TFT is absolutely not like that.
> [{quoted}](name=LightOfTheSeven,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=tV4WLQxj,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-27T10:17:28.904+0000) > > You have WoW and Starcraft in the same client ofr Blizzard, does not mean both are linked. ...dude, what kind of example is that, lol. WoW and Starcraft don't use the same exact graphic, assets etc, TFT and LoL do. The way you play a game, the goals...it means NOTHING, literally NOTHING; all if matter if you use the same stuff to build the 2 modes, and the answer is clearly yes, LOL. (and no, we had gamemodes with totally different goals btw)
: TFT: how do you read info about champs that are already in your possession?
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=SAILOR SATANA,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=tV4WLQxj,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-06-27T05:15:59.076+0000) > > Uh? > What do you mean? > XP like in the other game mode, based on the game's length and your finishing position But it's not another gamemode, it's another game. It has totally different data hence the match history to be completely rebuilt for this new game. They are planning to do it, but want to see how well this new game is working.
> [{quoted}](name=LightOfTheSeven,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=tV4WLQxj,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-27T07:36:07.745+0000) > > But it's not another gamemode, it's another game. Ehm, makes 0 system for the system. Is in the LoL client, for the game is exactly as a One for All or w/e, doesn't matter if the latter is just another version of LoL and TFT a game with nothing to do with it.
Silent Note (EUNE)
: I know right, especially that they're releasing the Arcade Event tomorrow, and you won't be awarded tokens for playing TFT. TFT would have so much more players if it was rewarding, but seeing Riot isn't planning on giving tokens for TFT, I guess a huge amount of people will just be farming tokens on SR and ARAM instead of playing the new gamemode. Riot literally releases a gamemode, and then the next day they release an event that rewards you for not playing the new gamemode, which is really counter-intuitive.
> [{quoted}](name=Silent Note,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=tV4WLQxj,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-27T05:27:54.841+0000) > > I know right, especially that they're releasing the Arcade Event tomorrow, and you won't be awarded tokens for playing TFT. > TFT would have so much more players if it was rewarding, but seeing Riot isn't planning on giving tokens for TFT, I guess a huge amount of people will just be farming tokens on SR and ARAM instead of playing the new gamemode. > > Riot literally releases a gamemode, and then the next day they release an event that rewards you for not playing the new gamemode, which is really counter-intuitive. Just to be clear: I am not hating on Riot or anything. Is a beta, it just started, there are TONS of things they need to address atm etc: just wondering how much it will take
: It was the same on the PBE so since the beginning. And maybe they change it. There are no mission or additional stuff to buy for now, so its just the gamemode on the Live server. Maybe they change it afterwards, but i wonder how do you want to give xp for this. I dunno how you want to balance that.
> [{quoted}](name=SAO Heathcliff,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=tV4WLQxj,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-27T05:07:44.702+0000) > >i wonder how do you want to give xp for this. I dunno how you want to balance that. Uh? What do you mean? XP like in the other game mode, based on the game's length and your finishing position
Rioter Comments
: No, they are not and I didn't state so. However, people, me included, tend to mix objective arguments with subjective impressions in their argumentation. That of course waters down the internal logic but doesn't mean such differentiated argumentation doesn't exist.
> [{quoted}](name=Stahlvormund,realm=EUW,application-id=Mpd1UjGe,discussion-id=9zH252ae,comment-id=00000000000100010000000000000000000000000000000000000005,timestamp=2019-06-12T00:02:48.957+0000) > I don't know why you would dismiss that as backpedaling Cause in MY opinion is as clear as the sun. But... > [{quoted}](name=SAILOR SATANA,realm=EUW,application-id=Mpd1UjGe,discussion-id=9zH252ae,comment-id=00000000000100010000000000000000000000000000000000000004,timestamp=2019-06-11T23:55:11.680+0000) >let's agree to disagree on that and w/e^^ But since I'm starting to suspect you just wanna have the "last word" (is the internet, after all!), by all means: take it. I am out bud, don't wanna continue this loop anymore anyway^^
: No, they are not and I didn't state so. However, people, me included, tend to mix objective arguments with subjective impressions in their argumentation. That of course waters down the internal logic but doesn't mean such differentiated argumentation doesn't exist.
> [{quoted}](name=Stahlvormund,realm=EUW,application-id=Mpd1UjGe,discussion-id=9zH252ae,comment-id=00000000000100010000000000000000000000000000000000000003,timestamp=2019-06-11T23:42:30.076+0000) > > I guess I have to rephrase this sentence Dude. What you typed was crystal clear, and its meaning too.; you will NEVER convince me about this (very convoluted)..."rephrasing", sorry. "But is true omg, how can you..." Ok. To you is the truth, to me is just you clearly backpedaling (and, sorry, kinda BSing me at this point): let's agree to disagree on that and w/e^^
: No, they are not and I didn't state so. However, people, me included, tend to mix objective arguments with subjective impressions in their argumentation. That of course waters down the internal logic but doesn't mean such differentiated argumentation doesn't exist.
> [{quoted}](name=Stahlvormund,realm=EUW,application-id=Mpd1UjGe,discussion-id=9zH252ae,comment-id=00000000000100010000000000000000000000000000000000000001,timestamp=2019-06-11T23:10:27.800+0000) > > No, I did not state all my statements about champions or why I dislike them are objective Good thing I didn't say that...at all. Like...not even remotely close. I said that you did it NOW with your "The results can be subjectively pleasing but _**objectively**_ are often not anymore." and that statement was enough to me to stop even trying to talk about it with you. You think you stated an "objective truth" and I find that laughable (exactly the same way that I feel about LOT of "objective truths" around here), sorry^^
: No, they are not and I didn't state so. However, people, me included, tend to mix objective arguments with subjective impressions in their argumentation. That of course waters down the internal logic but doesn't mean such differentiated argumentation doesn't exist.
> [{quoted}](name=Stahlvormund,realm=EUW,application-id=Mpd1UjGe,discussion-id=9zH252ae,comment-id=0000000000010001000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-11T23:02:15.884+0000) > > No, they are not and I didn't state so. ...yes you did, in the PRECISE moment you typed "objectively" (I was talking about YOU, remember? the last sentence was just a funny remark about just HOW many users share your "Absolute Truth Complex"). The precise moment when I understood that talking about it anymore was totally pointless^^
: Art can be objectively bad, stories can be objectively bad, games can be objectively bad, characters/champions can be objectively bad. I don't know what there is to chuckle about.
> [{quoted}](name=Stahlvormund,realm=EUW,application-id=Mpd1UjGe,discussion-id=9zH252ae,comment-id=00000000000100010000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-11T22:48:01.135+0000) > > I don't know what there is to chuckle about. Quite easy, the part where you stated that your personal opinion about Riot latest champions was suddenly an objective truth. Funny how many times I read about those "objective truths" on these boards^^
: > wasn't really relevant cause was still a "yeah lot of times X BUT anyway..." type of statement. So? If people randomly come up with good concepts, they are not paid for it, they are not putting hours and hours and hours into it. Riot has never stated themselves that it is difficult to come up with new original ideas, so all we players can do is assume, which makes both sides wrong, or look at the results. The results can be subjectively pleasing but objectively are often not anymore. > The whole thread IS about her. And, if you wanna split hairs, I didn't say you said something about her, I stated something about the very center of the topic (and about the comment that started all this, talking about Yuumi and how bad she supposedly was). I don't care about what the thread was. I didn't reply to the OP but to a post and the post I replied to itself may have had a connection to the OP but have stayed alone in a context about champion uniqueness in general. Fair point I guess. A bit random, but fair. > So, you basically agree in general AND you have nothing about Yuumi...your point again? I do not agree in general. I said in general they did a good job over the vast span of development. Lately it is going downhill however, and they could always do better which I think is what they could aim for with their resources and to stay on top of the market.
> [{quoted}](name=Stahlvormund,realm=EUW,application-id=Mpd1UjGe,discussion-id=9zH252ae,comment-id=000000000001000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-11T22:21:24.071+0000) > > _**objectively**_ are often not anymore. Stopped reading there, sorry. You legit made me chuckle tho ^^
: i did not say anything implicitly. I was very explicit. In my second sentence you left out: > Lot of the concepts are of course trash or just not fleshed out enough or not really beyond generic, And I did not say anything about Yuumi in particular at all. > And most of the time Riot does a very good job anyway, despite Board's whinings. I'd say that very much depends on the individual case we are talking about. Over the vast majority of champions, I guess you could say "most" are a very good job.
> [{quoted}](name=Stahlvormund,realm=EUW,application-id=Mpd1UjGe,discussion-id=9zH252ae,comment-id=0000000000010001000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-11T21:49:52.368+0000) > > i did not say anything implicitly. I was very explicit. In my second sentence you left out wasn't really relevant cause was still a "yeah lot of times X BUT anyway..." type of statement. > And I did not say anything about Yuumi in particular at all. The whole thread IS about her. And, if you wanna split hairs, I didn't say you said something about her, I stated something about the very center of the topic (and about the comment that started all this, talking about Yuumi and how bad she supposedly was). >Over the vast majority of champions, I guess you could say "most" are a very good job. So, you basically agree in general AND you have nothing about Yuumi...your point again?
: I didn't oppose any of these two notions.
> [{quoted}](name=Stahlvormund,realm=EUW,application-id=Mpd1UjGe,discussion-id=9zH252ae,comment-id=00000000000100010000,timestamp=2019-06-11T17:23:26.008+0000) > > I didn't oppose any of these two notions. You did it implicitly when you answered someone saying "You try coming up with something unique after a decade of reworks and 140+ champion ideas, you'll find its not as easy as you think :P" with "Yet etc", with the "yet" clearly implying "ehy is not THAT hard like you are saying too, for those reasons, cmon!". It is. A lot. And most of the time Riot does a very good job anyway, despite Board's whinings.
: Yet a lot of people manage it with concepts they post on the boards or other social media. Lot of the concepts are of course trash or just not fleshed out enough or not really beyond generic, but there certainly are enough interesting ideas to choose from and elaborate on using your billion dollar company and experience in making them. The ideas and concepts are given, the rest doesn't require much creativity, just work. Which is what their development, design and number teams are paid for.
> [{quoted}](name=Stahlvormund,realm=EUW,application-id=Mpd1UjGe,discussion-id=9zH252ae,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2019-06-11T15:16:25.260+0000) > > Yet a lot of people manage it with concepts they post on the boards or other social media. Yeah, and 95% of the time they are BEYOND broken and/or bad. And Yuumi is a perfectly fine champion btw, with very distinct skills.
: PERMABANNED FOR PRIVATE CHAT - Update and conclusion
Wow, this is some serious BS. First of all the idea of banning someone for flame in "private chat" is BS: that's not part of the game in any way, you CHOOSED to interact with the other user and you can stop whenever you want without any consequences at all (while muting players in game is always not optimal). But let's say it is: they either always enforce it or not, they can't just say stuff like "oh yeah, we don't judge private chats, is not even allowed by law! ...but in your case we did it anyway cause you are a toxic %%%%!", is beyond absurd and unfair.

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