: Viktor overnerfed?All they did was increasing magic resistance from 0 to 0,5.
Have you even been watching the midlane meta? The nerfs to his ult and his first passive item costing 1250, followed by a heavy rylais nerf, ruined him for this season.
: Viktor would be a decent one for victorious skin. Lets hope it is him ^^ {{champion:112}}
It won't be Viktor, this is the season where he's overnerfed and not played much. They usually make victorious skin for a meta champion
skinTDM (EUNE)
: who is the easiest Champion?
I would not recommend playing at that age. The game is far too complex for a normal 9 year old and the community is too toxic.
Mada (EUW)
: Ahri is probably easiest. Her E even helps you getting to know her. I think Caitlyn is next. She seems a little uptight but once she starts talking about her fuzzy cuffs, you know what's up.
Ahri has skillshot that are very important to hit. Cait is straight up super high skillcap. You need to abuse her range to do well, and utilize traps and q e combo plus autoattack resets to be effective. I would rather recommend something like Annie and Garen. He's 9...
: He is probably the worst nightmare for immobile champs, so i personally suggest to permaban him, you'll save yourself a lot of trouble. If you don't want to ban him then you need a champ that can destroy him pre6 (example: twisted fate, he can do some really high damage) And harass him as much as possible while farming and get the catalyst and possibly boots for some tankiness, at this point you'll probably be 6, survive until you can buy roa, then you can survive him for a while, as it gives you quite a bit of tankiness. Then possibly buy another defensive item either zhonya or banshees to not get hit by the shark, and try to impact the other lanes as much as possible while keeping an eye for possible fizz roams. As i started permabanning him i am not too used to playing against him so i'm not too good with these tips but i hope this can help. Good luck and sorry for my bad english :D
Why would you ever pick TF into fizz lol. Fizz can literally remove your stun by using E, and then you have no damage since he can easily dodge the cards.
LIG Gaara (EUW)
: I realize this has a lot of anger, and this is actually mostly just a hit towards {{champion:90}}, who should have his ult made cleansable or have it be removed from the game. But I honestly think that targeted CC is unhealthy and serves no other purpose that to make thrash players think they're good when they dont have to practice it.
There isn't much targeted cc left in LoL. Every champion with targeted cc has weaknesses to make up for it. Malzahar has short-ish range and low burst. Annie has very low range for a mage. Nautilus has a huge delay on his, and he's easily kiteable with low dmg. Malzahar falls off quite a bit in teamfight as soon as people group and get qss or mikaels. Allies can also cc him when he ults to cancel it. I would like to remind you that malzahar ult can be removed with qss/mikaels, while knockups cannot.
: i don't remember viktor receiving nerfs apart from the rylai ones, i checked and there are no nerfs,did i really just miss them? but yeah i can see what you are saying
His ult speed was nerfed 2-3 times, his passive item costs 1250 gold(!) at the first upgrade instead of 1000 and i think he got some minor damage nerfs as well. The rylais nerf was the biggest hit though. Even Dopa, a super godo Viktor player, said he's trash and don't play him anymore.
karolmo (EUW)
: normal games mmr has nothing to do with ranked games mmr said this 18 times within the last 30 days
So? I refuse to believe the silver Tristana has the same mmr as the challenger Yasuo.
: Could someone explain me why some mid lane mages have pretty low winrates?
Ryze, Azir and Viktor have all been played a lot in competitive and obtained multiple nerfs after that, making them weak for soloq. They are overnerfed, basically. They need to be played to perfection to actually be good, which pretty much noone does in casual play.
BobbyB103 (EUW)
: Kayn's strength atm
He seems pretty balanced but the kit is rather boring and he's a bit too similar to many other champions in my opinion. I don't really feel like he adds anything to the game, honestly.
Rioter Comments
l MrD l (EUW)
: tbh.... in that video it was just poor play too... going full AD with lethaility should mean you should deal a lot of damage but when youre just walking up to a jayce like that expect him to kill you like that..... the video was mainly poor play.. lethality now scales with its users level so if you can get him nehind he wont be as useful i havent seen any issues in my game yet O_o
If you look at high elo games, you will notice that they often have 2-3 or even 4 duskblade on one team. Normal players just haven't noticed how strong it is yet.
Rioter Comments
Metharius (EUW)
: Why do i find Kayn underwelming(gameplay)? when i was excited during the reveal...
Kayn is way too similar to other strong champions while not being that solid damage wise it seems. It's a big problem that he scales off bonus AD while being weak early, making it harder to snowball.
: Her win rate isn't fine. Orianna should have 46 or 47 win rate.
46-47??? What on earth? She is a **safe mage** that naturally gets a little above 50% while balanced. That low winrate is ridiculous. If she was that weak noone would play her. Viktor is at that winrate and he's clearly overnerfed. Syndra has that winrate while being relatively balanced, due to multiple nerfs and being a risky champion. Orianna is the safer version that works in more team comps due to her kit, and that pushes her winrate up.
: First off Orianna is op. And my all datas prove that. She is S tier. So god tier. Because she has utility, burst and low cooldowns and mana costs. Orianna ult has 35 seconds cooldown at late game. Her strength is very high. She has 50%+ win rate as high skill champion. That's problem. Even if new players have 50%+ win rate, main players will have 60%+ win rate. So she is op. Also she has the highest pick rate for mid lane. Higher than Ahri. It is ridiculous. Every player plays with her. Because she is op. Because mid lane requires many champion but everybody plays with her. People wants win so they play with Orianna. Ult cooldown buff needs to be reverted. If Orianna doesn't get a rework due to competitive rates, Azir shouldn't get a rework. Ryze should get big buffs. But I still didn't see a Ryze buff or Azir buff. Riot thinks Azir rework due to competitive arena.
The winrate part can be said with any champion. Her winrate is fine, since she is a safe champion she will naturally be a little over 50%. It seems to be less than 51%. Anivia does some of the same, but she has 54% winrate... Additionally, multiple other champions have way higher pick rates in other roles. You don't seem to understand that almost every other midlaner has been nerfed, and that is the reason to why Orianna is in a great spot atm. Midlaners will only get weaker as a group if they keep nerfing the stronger ones.
: I think every op champion is unhealthy for this game. Orianna too. A champion can have balanced kit but that doesn't mean he/she is healthy champion for this game. Orianna needs early game mana nerf and ult cooldown nerf. So I asked why she has strong early, mid and late game. Also I don't think Azir needs rework due to competitive. If Azir needs rework, Orianna needs too, Syndra needs too. Competitive rates shouldn't an indicator for champion rework. Also she is too powerful in every areas.
First off, Orianna is not OP. She is top tier but that is because of how safe she is, that she's decent in all matchups. Most champions are stronger than her in either early, mid or lategame. Her strength is normal in all of those. I don't think an ult cooldown nerf is justified, due to how reliant she is on it. Remember that the cooldown is short mostly due to the cdr-heavy build. She doesn't need a mana nerf either, she can't spam abilities early. What needs to be done is to buff or change Azir, Ryze and Viktor so they can compete in the current meta.
C3lll (EUW)
: Can you main anyone to climb
Yes, it is possible to climb with any champ. There are one tricks for pretty much every champion in Master and Challenger(even Teemo!). However, playing a strong champion makes it easier.
: Why Orianna has strong early, mid and late game?
Azir, Ryze and also Viktor are overnerfed, but are still stronger lategame. Ahri has great roaming and snowball potential. Anivia has a great lategame and counters melees in teamfights. Syndra is impossible to fight without a tanky build due to her r. The only reason Orianna is played more now is that all other powerful midlaners have been nerfed. Yes, she is good at the moment but she has clear counterplay and is not unhealthy for the game in any way. She is a jack of all trades but isn't too powerful in any areas.
: How to play as Lux vs Fizz?
Abuse your range early to pressure so you can outfarm, then get Banshees 1st or 2nd item. Then he has no way to engage on you since you stay out of jump range and his ult is removed by the spellshield. Always follow roams or do your own if possible to prevent him from snowballing on other lanes.
Saugisz (EUNE)
: Ezreal, Kalista or Jhin?
I would not recommend playing Ezreal atm, he's really weak. Kalista and Jhin are not that strong in this heal+shield meta with much tankyness and burst. Personally I ahve fun playing what I win with and if it's like that for you I would recommend Caitlyn and Twitch.
Sòrakà (EUW)
: Common question, how do I find a main role?
Orianna is a midlaner that have good support-like utility and that also is very strong in the current meta. You should try her out. Also, in silver elo, pretty much every champion works as long as you play them decently.
: I am Silver 3 but I have been playing Challenger for a while now
It seems like mostly players that are too bad to carry their own elo smurfs. It's not bad facing higher ranked enemies, though. as long as the teams are balanced. It makes you improve faster since you notice your mistakes.
: I don't mean to diminish your argument, but at 100k mastery points, you are, in fact, proving my point. Because that means, you already have quite a wealth of experience with Orianna. It doesn't really matter at this point if you have 100k or 300k, you are experienced with both champions. Yes, you are absolutely correct: A strong champion will be more effective than a weaker one, I am not disputing that. However, no matter how strong the champion is, experience is required to utilize that strength.
I do agree with your point. You always need to know the limits and matchups of a champion to make it work, and you get that from experience. Just wanted to add that the ''meta champions'' are worth learning simply because you can get more out of them at equal skill level. Viktor, for example, feels very bad to play now because of his weak earlygame and unfavorable meta matchups. In my opinion, you should only pick a lane counter champion if you have already played it multiple games with success. Oh, and when it comes to the youtubers: They usually play against much lower skill opponents when testing out new champions and strategies. For example, a challenger can have 100% winrate on a new champion on the PBE server simply because they are better, and not that the champion is better. ''New Kindred is broken'' was multiple video titles, now Kindred has 44% winrate.
True Sight (EUNE)
: R.I.P Stat-based runes (And most likely current keystones)
They said they would add 10% cdr(scaling from level 1-10) and other stats that champions rely on. Overall it seems like it will have a bigger impact than current runes+masteries, so I would expect some of it to be pretty OP before they balance it out.
: well, anivia is a actually a good pick as well, not a thrash pick as you said, and about teemo, had one game where our teemo just shroom camped mid and the paths around mid all game along, some of us baiting the bots to jungle to make them fall for shrooms, it was pretty easy as well, depends on how you play it!
I feel like Ziggs is also a viable pick. He has great waveclear and aoe to nuke the bots, and can build Lich Bane to dps Teemo later into the game. I've also seen Singed work(they chase forever into liandrys dmg) and Sion(they ignore him after he's in passive)
: PSA: Your pick is less of a decisive factor than your familiarity with the champion.
However, you will win easier if you main a strong champion than just someone you have played much before once you have some experience. I'm having more success with 100k mastery Orianna than 300k mastery Viktor, even though I do more mistakes with her.
DarkFudge (EUW)
: Best midlane champ?
I would say Orianna is one of the very best midlaners right now. She can win pretty much every matchup and you can play both offensive and defensive with her. She has both burst and pretty good dps, and isn't weak in any part of the game. She has great utility too, CC, Speed up, and shield. I'm almost diamond now by spamming her. Syndra, Ahri and Viktor are all nerfed while Ori is not. You also don't need more assassins in your champ pool.
Oriyoki (EUW)
: What the hell is Vayne's counter play?
* Vayne is easy to counter in lane. * Vayne lacks range and is very squishy. This makes it way easier to cc her and burst her. Vayne is supposed to be a counter to tanky, low mobility champions so that is exactly what you want to **not** pick against her. Vi is a very good pick against her with the targeted lockdown and burst, Cait and multiple other adc's can destroy her in lane and also many bursty mids easily deletes her in teamfights. If you win lane against her, like you are supposed to since she sucks in lane, you can finish the game before she scales up properly. She's not strong unless the enemy team plays it wrong.
Dreadara (EUW)
: Zac and Jax, theyre E's are super low cd alredy and dont really do that much. Well mby jax perma q q q q q q q q q q q q jumps but yea other than that ehh
Dude AP Jax is some of the most broken stuff in URF, permanent auto blocking and insane burst and dps. You get really tanky too. Once you have like 1 item you can 1v2 or 1v3.
Hopy (EUW)
: Fizz Counterpicks
Banshees. You just buy this item as an AP midlaner, keep out of range of the other abilities and he now has 0 kill potential. It's a really great item against a lot of other champions too. Then you can just poke and outscale him for teamfights, or look for roams after warding up. Pre-6 you want to punish him for having melee autos. Just be careful, he has absolutely insane AP ratios and base dmg.
Anigodz (EUW)
: Percentage-True-Damage
Both Vayne and Fiora are squishy. Your job as a tank is not to kill them, but to CC them so a carry can burst them down. They lack range so it shouldn't be too hard when you are grouped.
The Febos (EUW)
: Yet he had the 2nd most damage on your team and 3rd best CS score on the game. He has 100K commutative [mastery points](http://championmasterylookup.derpthemeus.com/summoner/?summoner=Roll+a+Hard+Six&region=EUW). Can't you tell a smurf when you see one? Also, the enemy team had 1 Diamonds, 2 Platinums, 1 Gold and 1 Unranked, while your team had 1 Diamond, 2 Platinums, 2 Unranked. I'm assuming Ashe is a Gold Smurf. Her game before that was against a Diamond team (4 of them + 1 Platinum). Everything seems fine by me. Both teams had equally skilled players. You just got the short end of the stick. You laned against the Gold and Ashe laned against the Platinum.
Around 80% of that damage dealt was to the enemy Nunu, who could just facetank it anyway with all that HP. The reason the dude had high CS was because he just stood there farming the whole game and even bought Statikk Shiv just to get the farm when other people on the team were there. In teamfights she ran backwards with full health, and when everyone on our team was dead and the enemy low health she started attacking Nunu. You would understand instantly if you saw the replay. If that was a smurf, it had to be at least low silver, which shouldn't be in game with diamond and plat anyway. The problem is not that the elo is about equally split amont the teams, but that such a wide skill variety is in the same game. Unless they all get matched with the players of same rank, the lanes are already decided. Someone will just get stomped. Other than that, Ekko had zero map awareness and got killed and caught constantly, he was also in a really uneven matchup.
Rioter Comments
: Weirdest champion you have gotten a pentakill with?
I got a Teemo penta in aram( I don't own him) and also a Karma penta in URF
sziorti (EUW)
: Why Ascension sucks
Have you seen AP Maokai in ascension? That stuff is beyond broken, since the whole map is full of bushes. He doesn't even need to be there, people just walk into his saplings and die.
: Post your longest Ranked winning streak, when it happened & which division(s) it happened in! (^.^)
I got a 10+ win streak, 1 loss and then another 10+ win streak that got me from gold 5 to plat at the start of the season. Just going duoq with a jungler main, while I play mid, and we won since I got overfed while the jungler tanks and cc.
: So when is Ryze going to be reworked?
The ultimate makes him impossible to balance for pro play and soloq at the same time. It needs to be changed.
BanaIity (EUW)
: My personal ADC runes, thought?
It's useless to mix ad and attack speed in the same type of runes, you always want to have the one that is the most efficient. You also need armor or mr or you die the moment someone touches you. That little bit of mr and armor makes a quite big difference since the standard 30 mr is removed by masteries+sorc boots by mages, so that's the only difference between some resistances and true damage.
BanaIity (EUW)
: My personal ADC runes, thought?
This setup is really bad. You want to have armor + flat or scaling mr, or you just lose all ins from runes only. AD and attack speed on the seals and glyphs are extremely cost inefficient.
: Plat is the new silver.
Playing in plat elo is really strange, I just got to plat 1 and one game you face a really good opponent, diamond level, while another game you face someone that has no idea what they are doing. This applies to both teammates and enemies. The best way to climb seems to be duoing with someone you know, so you get a way better impact on the game together and have proper teamwork. If you never play like a silver yourself that should be 5 possibly bad players on the enemy, 4 on yours. 3 if you have a duo partner. That's pretty good if you ask me.
: Why is EVERYTHING flame?
It's really annoying when you are giving legit good tips, like ''You should get some armor pen cait'', ''I think you need some mr in this matchup'', or ''Buy some vision wards please, we need better vision'' and people react like you are flaming them
: I see but problem with not having all champions is that I don't own her. I barely have any of the 4,800 and 6,300 IP champions and it takes a long time to get them. Not to mention that the one time I played Syndra, I did very badly with her (I think it was either URF or ARAM)...
I recommend watching some videos and then deciding if you want to invest in that champion. Don't judge from the first games you play a champion, when a champion is hard at the beginning it's often a stronger champion once you learn it. Focus on learning the individual champions, and focus on getting general game knowledge like how to position well, do good choices and farm well.
: Orianna can be a good pick but if you aren't good with her or against someone you didn't expect mid lane (Like Karma who is hell to fight) then it becomes an issue. In the game were I was Annie, I didn't originally plan to be her as I wanted to be Lux but it got stolen by the enemy team's support which in turn, didn't give me much time to choose another mid laner.
You need to work on your champion pool, you always need to have a champion that is safe to first pick in all roles you play. It's best to be able to play at least one of different champion types, for example one assassin, one burst mage and one poke mage mid. If Veigar picked before you, Syndra would be a good choice since she does the same as him just from longer range.
: Was there someone on your team gone too? Afaik when someone DC's or leaves a bot will stop playing aswell.
Nah, I was already playing 1v5
CeLeCeO (EUW)
: 10 bans: Positive or not?
I think 10 bans will be good. Bans are a way to remove the most overpowered/annoying champions from the game. Riot doesn't always balance properly before they release new champions and reworks and we can keep players from abusing this. It also helps the skill gap problem, some champions will always be stronger in different elos since the game is balanced equally for all elos. With a bit more bans ''that champions is open now we lose'' won't happen. By letting players remove the top tier(overpowered) champions it opens up for playing the balanced champions, instead of just picking the strongest since they are available and you don't want the enemy to pick them. There is a problem though. If you play a champion that was already often banned, good luck finding a new champion...
Rioter Comments
: What am I doing wrong in ranked?
You seem to pick champions that give bad matchups againt your opponents. Veigar can easily kill Annie since his stun outrange you, Sona is not that great vs Cait since she outrange you, and Shyvana is just a bad champion in general. To climb I recommend learning a few selected champions, like Orianna, that are safe and good in many matchups while they can carry a lot too. Then you continue to play these until you get really good at them and have experience in all matchups. Get good at csing before you try to harass your opponent a lot. It's no reason to play aggressive while you lose a lot of cs. I recently got to plat 1 by playing almost only Orianna. Remember to learn champions that are strong in the current meta(while not permabanned), weak champions will hold you back.
: Do you players think that RIOT will ever decide to remove/delete a champion from the game?
Complete reworks like the Poppy one is pretty much removing the old champ and creating a new one, gameplay wise. I think they will always rework over deleting a champion from the game when the champion has a difficult kit to balance.
: Ahri doesn't have the same damage as other assassins, she's very reliant on items. The problem here is probably that you don't farm well enough. You need to farm well to oneshot people on Ahri, unless you are getting a ton of kills to make up for it. Her base damages are pretty low. Also, Gunblade/Protobelt + Lich Bane is a viable build on ahri to boost her early oneshot potential. However, Ahri doesn't have that high damage compared to her items, it's a tradeoff for her safety and mobility. She's also pretty bad against tanky teams.
Your build should be the one above or a more standard mage build, Morello into Ludens. After that you can choose between Void staff and Rabadons for pure damage and Zhonias and Banshees for defences. Go pen boots.
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