Marxtreme (EUW)
: I do sidestep his W. The thing is, if 2 of your teammates don't, they are dead, and then it's a 3v5. 1v1s are easy, 5v5s are the problem. You may say "well, brand, velkoz, orianna etc also destroy 5v5s" yeah, but they have to be in the backline or you lose and they don't tank 8k damage and deal TRUE DAMAGE to your team's tanks.
> [{quoted}](name=Marxtreme,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=9wF8GAie,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2020-01-17T20:03:43.644+0000) > > I do sidestep his W. The thing is, if 2 of your teammates don't, they are dead, and then it's a 3v5. 1v1s are easy, 5v5s are the problem. You may say "well, brand, velkoz, orianna etc also destroy 5v5s" yeah, but they have to be in the backline or you lose and they don't tank 8k damage and deal TRUE DAMAGE to your team's tanks. {{champion:122}} . If only 1 of your teammates %%%% up giving him 5 stacks he will Ace your team. For a Sett to Oneshot multiple enemies they would need to be lined up, And if you are lined up against Sett then you deserve to get punished by it.
Marxtreme (EUW)
: Sett is so %%%%ing broken
You have plenty enough time to sidestep his W True damage part. He has no mobility, His chasing potential is really bad, He doesn't have escapes. So yeah, all he does is trying to get on your face and fist you. Super easy to kite. Requires positioning to be effective and hes extremely vulnerable to slows and ranged champions overall.
: sett sucks
Sett vs Any ranged champion makes me want to cut my wrists. You have no gapcloser, Your E has a very small range, His Q mov speed only lasts 1,5 sec, And his ult is low range aswell. Kiting Sett is way easier than kiting garen or Darius imo. I'm already imagining their Ashe perma slowing me and i can't run nor get close to her.
: "Massive damage". Old ult was better cause u could attack while being inmortal. In 2 basic attacks u already did way more damage than that "massive damage"
> [{quoted}](name=Queens Descent,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=FdAjX7b0,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2020-01-16T15:11:15.248+0000) > > "Massive damage". Old ult was better cause u could attack while being inmortal. In 2 basic attacks u already did way more damage than that "massive damage" So you have the selfish playstyle where you ult no one besides yourself. I see. No wonder you prefer the old one.
: I mean, the new one is as one-dimensional as the old one. The q is basically the same but you have to aim it now, the w is the same and the e is just an AA reset instead of making her ranged. The ult is the same, but worse. If you found the old Kayle boring, you prolly find the new one boring as well, cause she's basically the same character but worse
> [{quoted}](name=Queens Descent,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=FdAjX7b0,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2020-01-16T12:21:10.494+0000) > > I mean, the new one is as one-dimensional as the old one. The q is basically the same but you have to aim it now, the w is the same and the e is just an AA reset instead of making her ranged. The ult is the same, but worse. If you found the old Kayle boring, you prolly find the new one boring as well, cause she's basically the same character but worse How is the new ult worse? Massive AoE damage along with Invulnerability... I bet you've never seen Kaisa R + Kayle R combo. Shits disgusting. Kayle R is by no means worse than her old R.
Hallkatla (EUW)
: So when's the Sett hotfix coming?
How is a champion with no mobility, Low chasing potential, Vulnerable to ganks and Pure melee overloaded? If anything is overloaded it is akali. Kiting a Sett is easier than kiting a garen, if Sett gets close to you then you deserve to get killed. Since sett has no mobility he needs to have strong damage mitigation in order to be a champion along with good damage numbers or he is just a walking super minion.
: I played against him earlier as Udyr. Me and Renekton took him on, he was half health and killed us both in no time. That was a different account. Sett played top. That was my first experience against him.
> [{quoted}](name=StartAgain76,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=8gGv8Gsv,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2020-01-15T00:44:01.454+0000) > > I played against him earlier as Udyr. Me and Renekton took him on, he was half health and killed us both in no time. That was a different account. Sett played top. That was my first experience against him. Yeah thats why i said he was Ok in lane, He doesn't have an escape to run from ganks aside from flash so he is forced to fight. A Full charged Haymaker (W) Will drop your healthbars rather quickly early on, Although, lategame its quite a bit more difficult to make full use of it.
: about 20 games on him. he is strong. Maybe even too strong. Botrk or triforce, rest tank and you will pretty much demolish anyone. You can also go yi build with a bit more lifesteal, since your W gives you insane shield, when cast on correct time. He is a splitpush monster that is also good in teamfights. However, SLOWS, SLOWS AND MORE SLOWS. Those really hurt him since his ult is short range and he has to run up to them. God forbid you get snared
> [{quoted}](name=DragonessOfMagic,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=8gGv8Gsv,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2020-01-15T01:10:00.805+0000) > > about 20 games on him. he is strong. Maybe even too strong. Botrk or triforce, rest tank and you will pretty much demolish anyone. > You can also go yi build with a bit more lifesteal, since your W gives you insane shield, when cast on correct time. > He is a splitpush monster that is also good in teamfights. > However, SLOWS, SLOWS AND MORE SLOWS. Those really hurt him since his ult is short range and he has to run up to them. God forbid you get snared Well i played a 2nd game against akali and tried grasp instead of conq and i demolished her. 1st game i went vs a fiora so it was kinda hard to play against that, although i went even. So far seems like if you are even on Sett He is like a heavy sandbag that doesn't do much and if you are fed you just roll over them.
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Luqiez (EUW)
: Nerf Fizz !!
Tell me about kassadin counterplay then.
: Tbh. He can be strong versus certain match ups. But he is weak against ranged like Vayne (You can dodge his spells with Tumble [Q])... Specially with QSS there is nothing he can do vs her.{{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
> [{quoted}](name=Rottakuningas,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=YvOR4qFR,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2020-01-12T23:59:53.128+0000) > > Tbh. He can be strong versus certain match ups. But he is weak against ranged like Vayne (You can dodge his spells with Tumble [Q])... Specially with QSS there is nothing he can do vs her.{{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}} That applies to mostly any melee vs vayne...
ChampZone (EUW)
: I hope next patch they feel and bufff him, he really deserves to be a real bruiser and add some unique staff to him :()
> [{quoted}](name=ChampZone,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=XwHWEEq5,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2020-01-10T22:14:03.742+0000) > > I hope next patch they feel and bufff him, he really deserves to be a real bruiser and add some unique staff to him :() His early/mid game is Okayish. His lategame is non existent. Buff his lategame damage.
: >A Bronze player who is 10/0 Will Beat a Challenger player who is 0/10. Do you know what i mean? I'd argue that's not true, actually. It obviously depends on many variables, and League is not a 1v1, but I think a challenger player could still do alright if you set him up against a 10/0 Bronze. --- I'm not saying you could've done much different to change the outcome of this game... But Faker could've. >Sometimes it doesn't really matter if you are better than your enemy. This leaves the impression that you think you were better than your enemy in this specific case. I wouldn't necessarily say that's true. Beating your lane does not guarantee a win, that's true. And it shouldn't, League is a team game after all. You were obviously better than your teammates, yeah, but as I said, that's a pretty useless comparison. All that serves is to make it easier for you to shift blame.
> [{quoted}](name=Torpedosheep,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=59yTEoBs,comment-id=00010000000000010000,timestamp=2020-01-07T14:27:08.662+0000) > > I'd argue that's not true, actually. > > It obviously depends on many variables, and League is not a 1v1, but I think a challenger player could still do alright if you set him up against a 10/0 Bronze. > > --- > > I'm not saying you could've done much different to change the outcome of this game... > But Faker could've. > > This leaves the impression that you think you were better than your enemy in this specific case. I wouldn't necessarily say that's true. > > Beating your lane does not guarantee a win, that's true. > And it shouldn't, League is a team game after all. > > You were obviously better than your teammates, yeah, but as I said, that's a pretty useless comparison. All that serves is to make it easier for you to shift blame. I've been in masters, The difference between masters and Challenger is miniscule. Only Macro Differences. And if you don't have a team willing to Macro it properly you are most likely going to lose.
: Well, I don't think you needed to show that to anyone, as I said, we know not every game is winnable. It was still honorable of you to stick around. The problem is that this was not a balanced match. And you have to admit, that you are partly to blame for this inbalance. You really can't be smurfing and then complain about how bad your teammates are. You put them at in a bad spot to begin with. --- When you're smurfing, an 11/0/1 K/D/A might simply not be enough to carry. You call it a 1v9... But please remember that don't have to be better than your teammates. You have to be better than your enemy if you want to win. Sounds obvious, I know, but this game was simply not a 5v5. It was a battle of smurfs. It was you vs Lucian, the rest were minions. (Granted, Twitch did well too) Both of you crushed the rest of the players, but in the end, his lead was stronger. --- Smurfing kinda does this to matches. You seem to expect your teammates to perform neutral to good, but as I said, they're put at an insanely unfair disadvantage to begin with. Believe me, your teammates had a worse experience than you, go easy on them :/
> [{quoted}](name=Torpedosheep,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=59yTEoBs,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2020-01-07T00:29:44.241+0000) > > Well, I don't think you needed to show that to anyone, as I said, we know not every game is winnable. It was still honorable of you to stick around. > > The problem is that this was not a balanced match. > And you have to admit, that you are partly to blame for this inbalance. > > You really can't be smurfing and then complain about how bad your teammates are. > You put them at in a bad spot to begin with. > > --- > When you're smurfing, an 11/0/1 K/D/A might simply not be enough to carry. > > You call it a 1v9... But please remember that don't have to be better than your teammates. You have to be better than your enemy if you want to win. > > Sounds obvious, I know, but this game was simply not a 5v5. It was a battle of smurfs. > It was you vs Lucian, the rest were minions. (Granted, Twitch did well too) > > Both of you crushed the rest of the players, but in the end, his lead was stronger. > --- > Smurfing kinda does this to matches. You seem to expect your teammates to perform neutral to good, but as I said, they're put at an insanely unfair disadvantage to begin with. > > Believe me, your teammates had a worse experience than you, go easy on them :/ The "Skill" Difference matters little when they are massively ahead and can literally steamroll you without much effort. It's not about me being better or not than their team, because, lets be honest, If their team gets massively ahead out of my team, even if im Challenger and the best player in the world, I will not be able to do anything in that situation. As an example, A Bronze player who is 10/0 Will Beat a Challenger player who is 0/10. Do you know what i mean? Sometimes it doesn't really matter if you are better than your enemy. This was a Diamond MMR game. Yet my team members were behaving like Grain bags and feeding themselves off. All of the enemy team members were Strong. None was a minion. Unlike in my team. Anivia posed a bigger threat to me than the rest of them combined because of her CC and Teamfight control. What was i expecting? Atleast 1 Neutral teammember that actually wanted to win.
: I haven't seen replay, but from stats I guess the initial fight (idk who invaded who) was the main reason for your team's loss. After that initial setback, it was just not playing safe and possibly not respecting opponent's damage which lead to repeated fighting and dying. I seriously thought it was the bad matchmaking wanting to force the 50% win rate on you and giving unfair games, but this is more of game lost due to player behavior. Don't get frustrated and "bot lane feeding" means it is safe to ff at 15 xD Gl hf {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}} p.s: kind of ot, but how to see others' games if they're not in friend list?
> [{quoted}](name=Feirisu NyanNyan,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=59yTEoBs,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2020-01-07T08:55:26.707+0000) > > I haven't seen replay, but from stats I guess the initial fight (idk who invaded who) was the main reason for your team's loss. After that initial setback, it was just not playing safe and possibly not respecting opponent's damage which lead to repeated fighting and dying. I seriously thought it was the bad matchmaking wanting to force the 50% win rate on you and giving unfair games, but this is more of game lost due to player behavior. > > Don't get frustrated and "bot lane feeding" means it is safe to ff at 15 xD > Gl hf {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}} > > p.s: kind of ot, but how to see others' games if they're not in friend list? Its actually interesting since my enemy laner (Yasuo) Got a 2 kill lead out of that invade, Yet i still managed to roll him over despite twitch coming aswell and dying in the process.
PurpleOrk (EUW)
: All the boosted bought accounts on your team, that is bad luck indeed.
> [{quoted}](name=PurpleOrk,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=59yTEoBs,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2020-01-06T21:45:01.097+0000) > > All the boosted bought accounts on your team, that is bad luck indeed. That's what i get from smurfing i guess. Pretty tilting tho. Aint gonna lie.
: If you somehow managed to win this game, that 19/1 Lucian would be the one making the exact same post right now... Someone _has_ to lose, and in this case, in a pretty shitty way. Unfortunately, not every game is winnable. Don't think anyone would claim that.
> [{quoted}](name=Torpedosheep,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=59yTEoBs,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2020-01-06T21:47:27.047+0000) > > If you somehow managed to win this game, that 19/1 Lucian would be the one making the exact same post right now... Someone _has_ to lose, and in this case, in a pretty shitty way. > > Unfortunately, not every game is winnable. Don't think anyone would claim that. Dying , Respawning, Running back to lane, And Dying again as you arrive the lane 4 or 5 times in a row seems very tilting. Botlane being 0/10 or somewhere close to that by 6 mins is really demotivating. Honestly i was considering going afk since that was going to be shitfest. But then I Decided to play it out to Show people how impossible it is to win some games.
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