Trias000 (EUNE)
: > Guess another bug made possible by your spaghetti code from your recent stealth / invisibility / camouflage rework Well, at least this time the spaghetti code is useful for something - it gives us some counterplay to stealth.
> [{quoted}](name=Trias000,realm=EUNE,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=2J43e7nW,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2016-12-17T16:24:06.406+0000) > > Well, at least this time the spaghetti code is useful for something - it gives us some counterplay to stealth. The control wards already disable almost half his kits and wards overall are something people should more often use. A bug is a bug and should be fixed asap, that's no solution for something that is being seen as unbalanced.
Chîmoya (EUW)
: I'm an ap Shaco support main, started playing it before his recent rework since I want mastery lvl 7 on him, but couldn't get it even when I went something like 25/8/13, only getting a B to A+ due to the raining crit shaco players that all did well, so I decided to try out ap Shaco support. And oh boy can I recommend it to you! I got like an 80% winrate on him (in normals tho) where I carry almost every other game. So many people underestimate your box damage often trying to kill it instead of walking away, especially the support at early lvls that take rly long to kill them. For that reason I also max w first, then I max q second for the longer stealth for better innitions and escapes since e at max rank only does like 200 dmg + 3% missing hp more it's not worth it. My items are as follow: frost queens claim, ludens, lich bane, gunblade/gunblade, lich bane (which one fits better per game you take first), pen boots somewhere in between all that and as last item either a rabadons for more dmg, zhonyas for the active if needed, void staff, or zz rot for splitpushing, the last one is my favorite as most ppl underestimate how fast you can splitpush, 1 box clears all the casterminions within 3 sec, q lich bane proc e ludens shoud kill the cannon and the other minions/lich bane will take care of the rest. And the lich bane is really strong on the towers especially when you pop your clone, lich bane aa, e a minion, lich bane aa tower, w, lich bane aa and the tower is gone, since your clone also procs the lich bane, letting it you proc it 8 times within like 8 seconds. By that time the tower is long gone, so is the inhib. And I haven't even mentioned the zz rot portal active which also helps a ton, place a box near it and 2-3 boxes behind you when you're pushing in case someone tries to stop you. Kill them and then continue. Escape with q if needed. This way I was distracted 4 players of the enemy for almost 10 min bot while my team was pushing top and took baron.
> [{quoted}](name=Shadowslayer 456,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=2J43e7nW,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2016-12-17T16:24:03.370+0000) > > I'm an ap Shaco support main, started playing it before his recent rework since I want mastery lvl 7 on him, but couldn't get it even when I went something like 25/8/13, only getting a B to A+ due to the raining crit shaco players that all did well, so I decided to try out ap Shaco support. And oh boy can I recommend it to you! I got like an 80% winrate on him (in normals tho) where I carry almost every other game. > > So many people underestimate your box damage often trying to kill it instead of walking away, especially the support at early lvls that take rly long to kill them. For that reason I also max w first, then I max q second for the longer stealth for better innitions and escapes since e at max rank only does like 200 dmg + 3% missing hp more it's not worth it. My items are as follow: frost queens claim, ludens, lich bane, gunblade/gunblade, lich bane (which one fits better per game you take first), pen boots somewhere in between all that and as last item either a rabadons for more dmg, zhonyas for the active if needed, void staff, or zz rot for splitpushing, the last one is my favorite as most ppl underestimate how fast you can splitpush, 1 box clears all the casterminions within 3 sec, q lich bane proc e ludens shoud kill the cannon and the other minions/lich bane will take care of the rest. And the lich bane is really strong on the towers especially when you pop your clone, lich bane aa, e a minion, lich bane aa tower, w, lich bane aa and the tower is gone, since your clone also procs the lich bane, letting it you proc it 8 times within like 8 seconds. By that time the tower is long gone, so is the inhib. And I haven't even mentioned the zz rot portal active which also helps a ton, place a box near it and 2-3 boxes behind you when you're pushing in case someone tries to stop you. Kill them and then continue. Escape with q if needed. This way I was distracted 4 players of the enemy for almost 10 min bot while my team was pushing top and took baron. The ranks depend mostly on farm for some reason. It doesn't matter much if I get 15+ kills 3 deaths and another 15 assists as long as my cs are low due to the constant ganking and killing. I had games with 7/3/5 and 200cs and that gave me an S, while games with 16/4/1x and 70cs gave me an A. And while ap Shaco support can work it isn't relyable, there are better champions that suit that role better, especially in higher elos - for me everything from Plat 1 and above. I've played a couple of games in flex queue and there are mostly silver, gold, plat people and it's still possible to win against them with ad shaco which again isn't as relyable and cost efficient as ap shaco.
Trias000 (EUNE)
: I'm sorry, but your comment is hardcountered by your nickname.
> [{quoted}](name=Trias000,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=fY27gRac,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2016-12-17T15:37:26.656+0000) > > I'm sorry, but your comment is hardcountered by your nickname. Hardcountered by a meme name but valid by my elo, compared to other comments here and overall.
: He used to be an early game champion because he had shit scalings late game stats. I don't think he is that strong in early game now, you don't have to get fed to win a game. His early game is definitely weaker now, and he has a better late game.
> [{quoted}](name=Cancer Cavalier ,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=fY27gRac,comment-id=00020001,timestamp=2016-12-17T13:30:40.130+0000) > > He used to be an early game champion because he had shit scalings late game stats. I don't think he is that strong in early game now, you don't have to get fed to win a game. His early game is definitely weaker now, and he has a better late game. His early is worse and his lategame is also worse. With ad you only needed around 2 or 3 items to do that what you can do now with a full ap build. Reddit is full of math, the change overall nerfed him, there is no buff other than his ap playstyle which they are going to nerf with the next patch.
Wukongz (EUNE)
: Problem with AP shaco is that he has no counterplay because of how the new new invisibility works. It makes it makes it impossible to react to him oneshotting you. And yes - he's not the only champion with the new stealth mechanics problem. So I don't know why the others aren't nerfed as well. Especially {{champion:67}}
> [{quoted}](name=Dardasim,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=fY27gRac,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2016-12-17T13:25:02.697+0000) > > Problem with AP shaco is that he has no counterplay because of how the new new invisibility works. It makes it makes it impossible to react to him oneshotting you. > > And yes - he's not the only champion with the new stealth mechanics problem. So I don't know why the others aren't nerfed as well. Especially {{champion:67}} No counterplay? Get high elo -> ward, buy control wards and use them because they disable his W and R -> get also a frostqueen because those retarded ghosts reveal him while he is in stealth, they will follow him while he is in stealth and reveal him. Or wanna know the easiest counter to Shaco? Get tanks.
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Zvonimir14 (EUNE)
: I thought about Shaco aswell.. Can you give me some tips and situational builds /core items on him.Im really bad shaco player because im so squishy but i have to come in melee range so its kinda hard for me to play him
> [{quoted}](name=Zvonimir14,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=N6v17N87,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2016-11-29T17:54:57.857+0000) > > I thought about Shaco aswell.. Can you give me some tips and situational builds /core items on him.Im really bad shaco player because im so squishy but i have to come in melee range so its kinda hard for me to play him Recently I didn't play much LoL on my main account and if I play I abuse the new Rengar in jungle, Shaco doesn't feel that universally applicable anymore, he is still fun though, but I wouldn't pick him above Plat 3 anymore. For example many builts and items worked on him, now he has definitely a boundary in his built. I myself play easily explained like this: Runes - Red - Yellow - Blue - Quint Runes - 9x hybrid penetration - 9x hp/lvl - 5x flat cdr, 3x cdr/lvl - 3x flat atk. speed Penetration -> lategame Hp -> The new smite gives you enough sustain and the new jungle is easier cleanable, hp is better in mid/ lategame than 9x armor, you could as well go 4x Y and 5x Z. Cdr -> His Backstab passive scales with cooldown, also you really want to have your spells ready, the ad burst from the past is no more, you rely a lot on your Q and overall spells, you're more of an caster stealth assassin atk speed -> easier jungle and you're still a meele, you need some - you could experiment and replace it with more cdr Skill tree: 12 - 18 - 0 Either go bounty hunter or double edged sword Fresh Blood is good Runic Affinity is better than assassin, since you rely more on your team and your early is weaker, longer being able to gank and farm is better Greenfeather is pretty good, you'll use the bushes a lot, dangerous game is also ok though Precision is broken, penetration is always good for the lategame, yet intelligence boosts your cdr early and caps it higher for lategame, you decide Overall do 2 or 3 masteries for every comp.: is the enemy team heavily tanky? Squishy? Caster type? Do you want to use Shaco everywhere? All important factors. The build should be mostly ap, you could go hybrid or even bruiser ap. Overall ap > ad... My build looks like this: {{item:1402}} {{item:3100}} {{item:3020}} {{item:3146}} {{item:3089}} or {{item:3157}} Situational: {{item:3077}} --> {{item:3748}} , {{item:3116}} , {{item:3742}} You max first your Q, then depending on the game either W or E. W is overall good for control over non-vision zones or zones where the enemy jungler can get through to gank a lane, E gives you a better slow, the %hp missing damage comes sadly with your level... Playstyle: You either invade the enemies buff and try to steal it, you always go to the buff he isn't starting at and steal it then go instantly to yours to save it. Or you just do your own jungle and gank the lanes constantly, try to do the crab for vision, use the plants so the enemy can't, try to steal his jungle and pressure him to gank so you can countergank. Bot side: start and blue -> steal his red Top side: start at red -> steal his blue Get your blue / red, do gromp and wulfs and try to gank, krugs and raptors are not worth it early, if no ganks possible do them of course. Overall play him and get a feeling.
STARWRS2016 (EUNE)
: ...Unnaceptable -_-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oqa9tKarkNA
Zvonimir14 (EUNE)
: Who to main
Don't main Shaco if you don't want to be flamed, if you can deal with that, Shaco is love, even though they killed Ad and only ap / hybrid makes sense now. Also his early is easier punishable compared to before.
: It's an 11 minute game where he died 5 times. All on mid lane. His "blue" shen isn't a clue of him trolling right? And this isn't even the first time he either intenionally fed or got suspended for doing so.
> [{quoted}](name=Jesperr101,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=KPT5L5cR,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2016-11-29T14:15:25.387+0000) > > It's an 11 minute game where he died 5 times. All on mid lane. His "blue" shen isn't a clue of him trolling right? > > And this isn't even the first time he either intenionally fed or got suspended for doing so. Meanwhile Irelia died 5 times and went afk Sion wrote a poem trying to insult Shaclone Ezreal tilted him by banning his shaco just because his friend told him to, while shaclone was in his promotions Recent video, championselection chat: - BemchForTheKench: - bans Shaco "Shaclone, your mother never loved you" "everyone wished she had aborted you" "don't dodge and you will get banned :p" "wasn't he already banned? wtf" "hi reddit" "shaclone" "go find a dildo" "and fuck yourself with it" - leaves champion selection https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAStNuqMY8A
: RIP SHACLONE!!!
> [{quoted}](name=Komkommer,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=Fl5FecU3,comment-id=0005000000010000,timestamp=2016-11-29T15:33:07.881+0000) > > Well you can ignore people, the button is up there and for a good reason. I do/did that alot (not all the time, but alot), and I just reported them post game and moved on. And judging from his match history his champion aint getting banned that much. More like 2 or 3 times over 50 games. If you cant behave yourself those few games because you ain't getting the champion you want, than you've some issues. > > I don't wanna offend this guy in any way, since I don't know him on a personal level, but.. c'mon if that's already triggering you than you should not play this game at all. The ranked system is full of emotions, and shit happens, and picking on someone who's playing a bit out the meta is the easiest way to release fustrations. BUT once someone does flame you, be the better man and ignore the guy. Champion banned? Fine, pick another champion and move on. This guy has so many games playing with his beloved Shaco. He can't pick another champion once its banned? > > What I'm trying to say is that he should have behaved more mature instead of taking the bait and flame/troll back. You are only feeding the trolls/flamers that way, and give them even more reasons to troll and dislike you. If you don't feed them, it will stop. > > My personal experience is that if you don't respond, the flaming will die. Because there is no fun to get where there is no response at all. The Sion in that game, he will get his ban if he behaves that way in more games, you don't have to worry about that. And this counts for everyone, including the streamers! > > The only disadvantage streamers have it's that they are recording/streaming the games. Which means you create an additional proof of your toxic behaviour to be used against you appart of the chatlogs. And in my opinion, if you're streaming and making youtube videos you kinda have to maintain your public image and don't set to set the standard of flaming/trolling for the hunderds of people watching you. Yes, I totally understand you. I personally also would just stop playing and calm down and just ignore & mute them and do something else - or I would respond in a way of not ganking their lane but therefore others who deserve and earn my help by not flaming me -, but LoL is not my job, so I don't rely on playing the game. He on the other hand has thousands of eyes watching him in real time, every hour he plays has to be made into money or else it's wasted. It is definitely a bad habbit of him cussing and saying Rito .... my..., but as I said, at least he doesn't exposes it in a way other people do by writing it in the chat making his team tilt due to flame. I just think he had enough over the years and it really gnawed on him, all the hate and ignorance. Seeing the champion selection chat from his recent video already makes me sick: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAStNuqMY8A This would get me too after a time if this would happen to me; the game didn't start yet, I didn't say anything, yet people ban my favourite champ and insult me already due to the reputation I have. Not fair. I know, rule of thumb is to act better than others do, not getting on their level, but it's easier said than done and I just feel sad for him. - bans Shaco "Shaclone, your mother never loved you" "everyone wished she had aborted you" "don't dodge and you will get banned :p" "wasn't he already banned? wtf" "hi reddit" "shaclone" "go find a dildo" "and fuck yourself with it" - leaves champion selection Yet people still call him toxic asshole based on his upset and angry reaction...
: Thing is, you only defend him because he's a streamer and a YouTuber. And if someone did what he did in that game, you'd probably be on the boards complaining about losing games due to trolls.
> [{quoted}](name=The Smith of Lie,realm=EUNE,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=Fl5FecU3,comment-id=0005000000000000,timestamp=2016-11-29T14:59:50.373+0000) > > Thing is, you only defend him because he's a streamer and a YouTuber. And if someone did what he did in that game, you'd probably be on the boards complaining about losing games due to trolls. He may be a streamer or youtuber, but this is the only thing that lets me have a silhouette of his personality due to the fact that I see him as a person and hear him. I don't know how you sound or any other player or how you look and can't judge who you are. Also, if he were to start games just to feed and to troll people, I would definitely mind that, but for cases like the shen game where his own teammate banned his champion just for the lulz, while he was in his promotion games and he didn't even say anything to deserve that, his reaction is more or less justified. Sion also wrote a poem just like a majority of people in his games, yet who is the one to get banned. This system is flawed in so many ways. There is more to anything that any person would like to see of it, in the case of Shaclone his actions are nothing but a response to everything he is exposed to. Everyone of you has something that will break you and the moment you're broken, nothing else will matter than a small victory, even if it will harm you more than the person who would deserve it in your opinion.
Komkommer (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Shaco Is Freelo,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=Fl5FecU3,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2016-11-29T11:18:31.258+0000) > > Just here to clarify some things since I've been watching his streams recently: > His own teammate banned Shaco, saying that he didn't know why he did that, he just did it because his friend told him to. - So, while they knew he was going to pick Shaco they still banned his champion just for the lulz, knowing what they'll get since as far as I am aware Shaclone started to do that since his teammates began to troll him by banning his Shaco, knowing he would want to go Shaco. Why would you do that if you know how someone would react to that? Also, those were his PROMOTION games, why would you ban your teammates main champion especially in his promotion games? Sorry, but this is being an asshole. > > A good portion in LoL knows Shaclone as a toxic trashtalker asshole, which he isn't at all, YOU made him like that. YOU keep insulting him, spreading rumours, dramatize his actions, report him over everything, flame him over everything, YOU are full of hate and ignorance. By you, I mean those who play a role in this and if YOU as the reader are one of those. > I watched many streams of his, yes, he can be toxic, but he doesn't write it and post it, he gets mad, which is kind of normal since it's ranked and you give it your all, the only difference is he streams and you can see him saying things. I bet everyone of you thought and said an insult many many many times when someone did a mistake and you were about to lose, but you didn't write it in the chat, at least you didn't write it, you just said it. He can often be very nice, as long as his teammates are nice to him, let him have Shaco and don't insult him, heck if the enemy bans Shaco he take a different champion like wukong and tries his best, but he doesn't troll as long as his teammates don't try to bring him down, which sadly a good portion try to do. He keeps getting bullied verbally and action wise on an emotional level, yet people expect him not to react to it? COME DOWN FROM YOUR FRICKING HORSES, he is only human, just as you, enough is enough. He may have been toxic in the past, but over the years he really tried to change and swallow everything down, even if he didn't do anything to deserve it, yet people still continued to insult him and break him, which makes me sick. > > > Sion wrote a whole poem in the game attacking Shaclone, guess he can still roam League like all the 0/30/0 people or all the flamer wishing cancer for everyone in the chat. > > Here, look at this video: Yes, he got mad, yes he trolled, but he got trolled with the intention to trigger him, which is no secret of how to do that... > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYRlT1cvL1E And.. you try to justify his behaviour just because his champion got banned? Just because he got trolled he is allowed to troll? That's like fighting fire with fire. ESPECIALLY as a streamer he should have known better, instead of just picking another champions and ignoring his team mates he chose to be toxic as well. And just like everyone else you can get banned for that. He chose to stream and upload his content, fully knowing his content was toxic af. Don't talk like the whole world around him is wrong, while he is not any better, if not worse. He could have just played the game and moved on to the next, where he could have played shaco. Instead he chose to act like....this
> [{quoted}](name=Komkommer,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=Fl5FecU3,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2016-11-29T12:46:21.993+0000) > > And.. you try to justify his behaviour just because his champion got banned? Just because he got trolled he is allowed to troll? That's like fighting fire with fire. ESPECIALLY as a streamer he should have known better, instead of just picking another champions and ignoring his team mates he chose to be toxic as well. And just like everyone else you can get banned for that. > > He chose to stream and upload his content, fully knowing his content was toxic af. Don't talk like the whole world around him is wrong, while he is not any better, if not worse. > > He could have just played the game and moved on to the next, where he could have played shaco. Instead he chose to act like....this Just think for a little bit about it. How you would act if: - You're playing this game for many years and you really enjoy it, especially 1 champion is the reason for your enjoyment - You start to stream and to do videos to the enjoyment of your fans and to teach them on how to play that champion or perform well in this game and climb - In all those years and the games, even if you performed really good in your matches, while there were once in a while bad games, a MAJORITY simply hated on you for playing that champion - SHACO IS USELESS, REPORT PICK LEE SIN YOU SHITHEAD, GG LOSE-, performing bad with THAT champion which is also your main -. leads to insults and reports that always punish you, while you didn't even deserve it. So you get punished by simply reports or DARING to talk back, while they keep insulting you and getting away with it, since the system will only analyze your chat and not theirs and their behaviour, 4 reports vs yours, who do you think will win here? The fact that he streams and is known widely will increase this toxic behaviour torwards him - Even though you try to behave as decent as possible the playerbase still finds it funny to trigger you and bully you, you start to hate the game, yourself and all those assholes who get away with bullying you on an emotional level and that in the game you used to love and feel comfortable, the only way to pay them back is by trolling them back, what do you have to lose if you're going to get reported anyways. Why do you think he removed his chat? He DIDN'T even want to talk to them back or read what they wrote, he just wanted to play the game as shaco -> 6k games chat ban. After that -> teammates started to ban his champion for the lulz or insulted him pre-match and enemies stream sniped him -> he played worse and tilted which lead to another ban, why? performing bad (especially with a useless trash troll champ like Shaco which is also you main) is the same for this toxic community as intentional feeding / trolling. - He even wrote to Riot about the chat bans and his case and that he really tries to stay positive, yet no one gives 2 shits about him and everyone want to break him more and more, because that's what a group of this community wants, spam salt and kappa emoticons and break people. I had this kind of crap in season 5 too. The moment I started to play most of my games Shaco only, (the only reason I was allowed to play Shaco was my positive winrate and good stats), but the moment I died in the game early or I did any kind of mistake or something happened that wasn't even my mistake because I wasn't even involved in the decision, I was the one to blame, I got flamed, they wished me my death and the death of my family from cancer or that they should die in a car accident. My useless trash troll pick cost them their game, even though I did my best and the majority weren't my mistakes. Most of the times I didn't reply back or just wrote stfu and play, yet who do you think got a 75 games chat restriction on the account that was MAINLY involved in playing ranked Shaco? Sorry, but this community is poison and the system doesn't punish the people who are the root of all. Saying "just move on, don't let it bother you" is the shit that makes kids rum amokk in schools and shoot everyone down, because no one bothers to open their eyes to realize that a victim is not only a victim but also the one to receive punishment the moment he tries to defend himself. His acting is exactly that, yet HE keeps getting punished and you expect him not to be like that while every or every second game the same repeats over and over again, people banning his champion or flaming him before the match even started, tell me more about moving on when the next thing you moved over is a reflection of the thing you moved away. The fact that this game is his job prevents him from just quitting the game, while tries to continuing this crap happens to him over and over and over again.
Wukongz (EUNE)
: In which games did he feed intentionally? No, I don't follow this guy or know what he does, but the ban said he was intentionally feeding. His match history has a few losing streaks but nothing like 0/30, which is something people get away with constantly. I'd understand if he was banned for flaming but this confuses me. Can someone elaborate?
> [{quoted}](name=Dardasim,realm=EUNE,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=Fl5FecU3,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2016-11-29T06:40:45.122+0000) > > In which games did he feed intentionally? > > No, I don't follow this guy or know what he does, but the ban said he was intentionally feeding. His match history has a few losing streaks but nothing like 0/30, which is something people get away with constantly. > I'd understand if he was banned for flaming but this confuses me. Can someone elaborate? I guess it's this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYRlT1cvL1E It was his promotion game, Ezreal banned Shaco while he knew Shaclone was going to pick Shaco, he did it "because my friend told me to", Sion wrote a whole poem trying to insult Shaclone by not using strong language, everyone in the team died and had neither kills nor assists. So the intentional feeding as a reason is quite stupid. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAStNuqMY8A Seeing the pre-match chat already makes me puke. 1. Bans Shaco 2. Proceeds to insult Shaclone 3. Leaves the moment they see he'll go blue Shen, LOL.
: RIP SHACLONE!!!
Just here to clarify some things since I've been watching his streams recently: His own teammate banned Shaco, saying that he didn't know why he did that, he just did it because his friend told him to. - So, while they knew he was going to pick Shaco they still banned his champion just for the lulz, knowing what they'll get since as far as I am aware Shaclone started to do that since his teammates began to troll him by banning his Shaco, knowing he would want to go Shaco. Why would you do that if you know how someone would react to that? Also, those were his PROMOTION games, why would you ban your teammates main champion especially in his promotion games? Sorry, but this is being an asshole. A good portion in LoL knows Shaclone as a toxic trashtalker asshole, which he isn't at all, YOU made him like that. YOU keep insulting him, spreading rumours, dramatize his actions, report him over everything, flame him over everything, YOU are full of hate and ignorance. By you, I mean those who play a role in this and if YOU as the reader are one of those. I watched many streams of his, yes, he can be toxic, but he doesn't write it and post it, he gets mad, which is kind of normal since it's ranked and you give it your all, the only difference is he streams and you can see him saying things. I bet everyone of you thought and said an insult many many many times when someone did a mistake and you were about to lose, but you didn't write it in the chat, at least you didn't write it, you just said it. He can often be very nice, as long as his teammates are nice to him, let him have Shaco and don't insult him, heck if the enemy bans Shaco he take a different champion like wukong and tries his best, but he doesn't troll as long as his teammates don't try to bring him down, which sadly a good portion try to do. He keeps getting bullied verbally and action wise on an emotional level, yet people expect him not to react to it? COME DOWN FROM YOUR FRICKING HORSES, he is only human, just as you, enough is enough. He may have been toxic in the past, but over the years he really tried to change and swallow everything down, even if he didn't do anything to deserve it, yet people still continued to insult him and break him, which makes me sick. Sion wrote a whole poem in the game attacking Shaclone, guess he can still roam League like all the 0/30/0 people or all the flamer wishing cancer for everyone in the chat. Here, look at this video: Yes, he got mad, yes he trolled, but he got trolled with the intention to trigger him, which is no secret of how to do that... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYRlT1cvL1E
Rioter Comments
Rioter Comments
: The behaviour of the 5 roles in a nutshell!
I am the chain ganker. Fk my cs as long as my mates are fed and I get some kills or assists too, lol.
: Been playing since season 1, from bronze player to diamond. But now i am done. This game sucks.
**Some people be like:** Dude... chill, it's just the pre-real-season, Rito will still balance stuff and make everything GREAT again. It's not new, EVERY season was like that... hurr durr" I agree 100% with you, Rito screw more up this time than ever else.
RiotJerkee (EUNE)
: Tell us your greatest League story!
The story is short and simple: URF
IPAITH (EUW)
: So... About this DRAAAAVEN ICON...
"you'll unlock the Draaaaven Icon for **free**" spending 20 bucks on a legend to get a "FREE" Icon, nice marketing.
Buttcramp (EUNE)
: How can you get S- or above as jungler?
It's because of those stupid cs. I never have more than 50cs, but for that around 10 kills and I still won't get an S, no matter what. The only time I got an S was because of around 20 kills and 4 deaths, which is pretty stupid, since other lanes can get an S for having 200cs and like 7 kills.
LegendCZ (EUNE)
: Yeah but Mundo outzoned me. And as you can see i punished him hard for that late. But i did my best to catch up later. It worked. At last a little.
> [{quoted}](name=LegendCZ,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=WbEA1K6s,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2016-03-18T18:55:45.567+0000) > > Yeah but Mundo outzoned me. And as you can see i punished him hard for that late. But i did my best to catch up later. It worked. At last a little. That may be, but it is just the algorithm of the system. It doesn't look at you, the matchup etc. it just evaluates the statistics and from my experience cs seem to influence it by a lot. For example, these things are considered in the algorithm: cs, K/D, popularity of the champion, overall statistics of the champion from other players
LegendCZ (EUNE)
: S-! For this?! ... Like eh?! ... I mean ... how ... What did i do wrong?!
From my experience as jungler, I often don't get a S rating, mostly because my farm is quite low, even though my stats may be phenomenal as yours. You may have 9/0/6, but for a 40 min. game you only have 223cs and that as Gankplank, one of those champions who allow you to farm easily and well. Gankplank players usually have around 300 cs and more.
Cenke (EUNE)
: Shaco is really unhealthy
1. Learn to ward 2. Pick Elise
: How to switch pow pow to fishbones for Jinx?
Firstly you have to use smartcast, secondly it is the same key - default it should be Q You skill your Q and by pressing Q constantly you can change the weapons, either gun or rocketlauncher.
Mepodis (EUW)
: Is ''Allahu akbar'' allowed to say?
Asked myself the same, whenever I played Shaco and my Clone did a kill by explosing or just exploded, I said "Allahuu Akhbaaar!"
Nabzor (EUW)
: Explain me LUX please...
Her E is just ridiculous, the width is way larger than it looks, the same goes for her R. She can spam everything as much as she wants without being punished for it. Oh, here an E in your face, a Q and an R. oh by the way let me throw my W around for the lulz shields.
: 12 games O,o so much man how did u do it :D :D :D :D
> [{quoted}](name=Socloseagain,realm=EUW,application-id=ln3nNJrX,discussion-id=7PME7Yan,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2016-02-26T12:03:29.935+0000) > > 12 games O,o so much man how did u do it :D :D :D :D The season before? Also this isn't even my main. Usually you have to win around 25 games and you have the mastery 5 badge.
: Why not give every champ an icon?
After playing Shaco so often, especially on my main Account I would really like to have a Shaco Icon :< Maybe this one {{champion:35}}
: I am confused on peoples logic.
Do you even League? The first thing you've to do is lowering your expectations to -9000 If you find people who are cool, you're blessed, most of the time you get people with whom you better not argue nor give them any kind of attention.
Faca4 (EUW)
: Shaco need a rework or a buff....
Shaco is fine as he is. Period.
Barty (EUNE)
: Master Yi as devourer/bruiser is way too strong atm
He is pure pain in the ass. You can try to slow him down early, deny him jungle farm, kill him in the jungle or gank more than him. Thing is that won't do anything at all. If he is in a decent team they can stall the game, while Yi farms his Devourer, buys a rageblade and goes full tank, which is just the most bs thing I've seen. {{item:3931}} {{item:3124}} {{item:3742}} {{item:3111}} {{item:3053}} But right now Udyr and Shyvana are for me more pain in the ass.
: The combo does absolutely nothing. Now it's just reliable.
> [{quoted}](name=NoDaddyItHurts,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=dA0UbUMN,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2016-02-10T21:09:40.838+0000) > > The combo does absolutely nothing. Now it's just reliable. The combo does more than enough. It keeps an assassin away from your adc. This is one of the biggest counters I've had as Shaco. I pop up with Q AA and E on the Adc and want to finish him off, but wait, a wild Alistar gets his combo (now EVERYTIME) and knocks me up for like 1 second-eternity which ends in a dead for me. Back then all those Alistars could do was knock me away from the Adc, not in the air and that constantly over and over again which is pure madness. The same when I play Nocturne or Lee Sin - just pure nonsense the 24/7 knock up. Back then -> Knock away, sometimes knock up. Now -> Knock up, constantly. They get rewarded for not misplaying a combo which cannot be misplayed anymore.
: Jhin **correct** description: Each 4th shot deals the dmg for the next 2.5 sec instantly. You understand this as realoading...
> [{quoted}](name=Im the Doctor,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=Z1lnYocX,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-02-08T14:44:23.671+0000) > > Jhin **correct** description: > Each 4th shot deals the dmg for the next 2.5 sec instantly. > > You understand this as realoading... Definitely not. If you try to sound smart at least read the post before doing so.
Rioter Comments
: JHIN IS BROKEN RIOT WHAT DID U CREATE!!!!
Sorry mate, but Jhin is one of the most balanced champions in this game. He requires real mechanics and every mistake of yours is easily punished. I played him the whole day on my main account and I haven't had fun like today for a long time. He could maybe benefit a bit of a faster reloading time, which would scale with bonus atk speed or movement speed for example, only a minor thought. All in all he is great. Killing someone with your ult or rooting someone with your W is so satisfying.
YXY (EUW)
: how do i learn Riven ?
Don't forget to put on your helmet whenever you play Riven! I get huge headache whenever I play Katarina due to smashing my head too hard on my keyboard. Also always have a replacement keyboard in reach, keyboards break easily when you smash your head at them.
DjMigaI (EUW)
: Shaco W' Thunderlord
Asking myself the same thing. Morgana W procs it, Miss Fortune E procs it...
: So what is mordekaiser now?
: Is this really racist??
In 2015 everything is offensive and part of a micro aggression. You have to be 140% political correct or else you're a racist, bigot, homophob or I don't know what. They just need a reason to bash someone so they can feel better. In general: Jokes are jokes, stereotypical ones have a root, it is not like people made them because they were bored, but because they witnessed a behavior typical to a particular group. Stereotypes are not 100% fact, but based on the "average" person of that particular group they tend to be accurate. Again jokes are jokes and sterotypes are funny because they are in some way true. As long as you don't have anything against a particular group you're not racist or anything. You're allowed to have your opinion and to do jokes, if you offend someone apologize. My friends and I do a lot of trash talking between us and we all are each part of a certain group, we simply don't care and would't care either if people who are not friends with us would trashtalk about us. I mean it is funny, if they start to insult us, well, it is their problem we don't give a crap. You need some basic tolerance, but as I said, today everyone gets offended. People even feel bad about ordering a BLACK coffee from a black cashier in a coffee shop... I mean c'mon. Stop this bullshit, we are all from root a human being, we have our differences, which is normal and it is good that we are individual in how we are. People telling you "Lucian stole my bike or black power, because we have Lucian" is racist, don't know shit about true racism. They're just ignorant.
Orionka (EUW)
: New champion select = waste of time?
Yes, already 10 minutes in the selection, 3 leaver... for fuck sake. All I want to do is play some ranked, holy cow. Edit: 4th leave, 15 Minutes into the queue, fuck this.
Catchdown (EUW)
: Lyte announced solo que ranked ( NO DUO ) (Dynamic que update)
Miglior7 (EUNE)
: so you suggest to turn his ulty into skillshot that will visually throw his leg which kicks the first champion when hit??? o.O
> [{quoted}](name=Miglior7,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=ZEHp9wBd,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-01-17T23:08:09.730+0000) > > so you suggest to turn his ulty into skillshot that will visually throw his leg which kicks the first champion when hit??? > o.O Gomu Gomu No Jet Kicke!
: You freaked me out rito.
Damn, you have internet explorer in your task bar? gg
Agidyne (EUW)
: Whenever a Ryze gets fed as shit.
http://i.imgur.com/GqRTEkD.png
: I really don't uderstand where are you finding all of those flamers. i play league more or less everyday, sometimes I even go fun mode and play teemo and still I meet 1 flamer in about 20 games who never actualy says anything worse than fuck you feedor or report this person etc. In over 1000 games i have played so far once I had an unpleasant experice of seeing someone wishing death and cancer on to another player. I dunno but I have pleasant flame free games 95% of the time.
> [{quoted}](name=0 skill noob,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=13X9HvM3,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2015-12-13T22:15:42.010+0000) > > I really don't uderstand where are you finding all of those flamers. i play league more or less everyday, sometimes I even go fun mode and play teemo and still I meet 1 flamer in about 20 games who never actualy says anything worse than fuck you feedor or report this person etc. In over 1000 games i have played so far once I had an unpleasant experice of seeing someone wishing death and cancer on to another player. I dunno but I have pleasant flame free games 95% of the time. Play ranked, the higher you get the worse it gets.
: I'm surprised that you got banned since there are no hacks for League. there hasn't been any hacks since s2 I think.
> [{quoted}](name=FaZe Clan Master,realm=EUNE,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=biY8iVb1,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2015-12-11T23:55:08.365+0000) > > I'm surprised that you got banned since there are no hacks for League. there hasn't been any hacks since s2 I think. Bro, no offense but where have you been the last year? There has been a Blade of the ruined king exploit and many many scripts for champions like Jinx, Vayne, Kalista, Cassiopeia, Xerath and many other. Also drophacks and game freezes, look them up. Just use google and you even can find a tool to script with. It will control your champion and do everything you set in this tool. No hacks, lol. There is is even a camera hack which allows you to zoom way more out than possible and a maphack which allows you to see unwarded places.
: How to distinguish real shaco?
The clone is squishier, also only one will throw the dagger at you, which will happen Q(w)ER...E also the Hydra passive/ Active.
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