: If you lose more LP than you win, then you are in a higher elo than you are supposed to be. So in other words, you didn't even deserve to win the promos.
yeah that's the stupidity riot feeds to their audience but that's not how the game works. In reality bronze is designed to keep you in if you're good. To get out you have to be as stupid as them and beg them. If you're too good they're just confused and completely shit everywhere
: Sounds like you got more issues working WITH people than anything else. From the way you word stuff you're no team player and it's no wonder you lose your games.
I'm in bronze, I have no teams, only obstacles. In the rare cases when riot only pairs me with decent players and not uncarriable idiots, then games are smooth and enjoyable. But 99% of the time it's just %%%%%%ed game design making people hate each others.
: dude, when you have an opinion, however idiotic it is, you're supposed to discuss it in order to corroborate it, instead what you're doing is just pile idiotic opinions on top on each other
why do you feel sorry for yourself in public? Just do it in your own mind and apply it instead
: That's not how writing scientific papers work. No money involved.
oh free public courses? That explains things
: If you lost promos, that means you lost at least 2 games. That means 20 LP per loss. I'd say that look normal.
lol riot ruins 2 easy games with pathetic 3/11 and 1/13 garbage, then I have to win 3 games to make up for it? Such a stupid design.
: what makes you tilt the most?
random trash who ruin a free win you're giving them because they cant even just follow instructions and think they know better than you when they're 0/20
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Enjutsu (EUNE)
: what
Have you finished tutorial?
: Yes, and groups of people who are working for a company usually create things that are in the interest of that company. That is pretty much the definition of a job. So again, would you mind answering the question?
they do whatever they're told to.. All startup companies share the same ideology so there's no doubt what their mentality is
: I wrote my federal exam thesis in psychology about the causes for toxicity in League of Legends, so I kinda do in fact understand what those terms mean and how they are relevant in the context of League of Legends.
did you pay for this? Cause I think you're entitled to a refund
: Again: Why? Why would a company do that? How is it in Riots interest to intentionally f*ck their customers over? How does Riot as a company profit from that?
the company? A company doesnt think and act for itself, people operate it
: The short answers to your questions in the same order: Self-protection & avoidance of cognitive dissonance, the need for power and a combination of both. None of that is related to this thread or my comment.
> [{quoted}](name=Humpelstilzche,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=9xoTF9ap,comment-id=000100010000,timestamp=2018-10-04T04:56:44.829+0000) > > The short answers to your questions in the same order: Self-protection & avoidance of cognitive dissonance lol do you even proof-read yourself? When you randomly use buzzwords you found on /r/psychology/ keep in mind some people actually understand what they mean
Enjutsu (EUNE)
: What low elo, did you fail to look up my profile? Oh no i looked up specifically your stats, most of the time your damage done was the lowest, KDA bad, barely any wards.
then how could you miserably fail?
Chaos (EUNE)
: Just learn to play Kha,op in low elo atm.
chεf (EUW)
: Because you are bad, you’re most played champion this season has a negative winrate and your ranked winrate is negative as well. Its just lies to say that its because of your team every single game when you are the one with the bad stats and big ego
puahaha are you trying to apply for iron division? I have a 99% winrate solo, learn to read that's a good start to complete tutorial
Eambo (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Fiôrà,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=9xoTF9ap,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2018-10-03T13:04:00.107+0000) > > What if it only worked for teammates, i mean if you blocked a certain player he couldn't be in your team but he could be against you. Still has the same level of abuse in that you can then increase your chances of matching with certain people by removing others from that possibility. This would be again abusable in high level player in solo/duo queue especially - you don't need to queue up with certain people, but can greatly improve your chance of getting matched with them anywho as a teammate.
"abuse" because you won't get the same inter twice in a row, while people are win trading at high elo. LOL the ridiculous excuses. "abuse" when virtually anything you say gets permabanned if you have multiple reports but inting virtually never does unless you're 0/50. Make me laugh more.
: It's entirely random and you just had bad luck. Suck it up and just play the game instead of wasting time with such ridiculous theories.
lol 7 times in 2 days isn't a coincidence, when riot puts so much effort in trashing their game it's not a game anymore it's just trolling
: > if you report someone they will force them again in your team the next game. Okay, interesting theory. But answer me this: Why? Why would Riot do this? How is this in their interest?
Why so many people put so much efforts in denying? Why people want to boss others, why people commit abuse?
Eambo (EUW)
: This would be an entirely counterintuitive system - **intentionally* matching you with someone you have had issues with recently. We do not adjust matchmaking based on reports for competitive integrity reasons - reports will neither increase nor decrease your chance of being matched with players of the same skill level. It sounds like you were extremely unfortunate in your matchups, potentially due to playing during a quiet time where there isn't a huge pool of players to pick from.
"see guys we're not fooling people, we just dong give a fck about your reports at all"
Enjutsu (EUNE)
: What Criteria did you use to decide that you're clearly better than the opponent? Because the fact that you lost 8 games out of 10 suggests that you're clearly not better than the opponent.
destroying them, anticipating their moves, having better stats
Chaos (EUNE)
: If you think you are better than your current division,you should carry every game,even as support or whatever main role you have.
that's exactly what Im doing. Then the usual garbages refuse to get carried and insist on carrying the other team 9v1
Sefi (EUNE)
: If you're not part of the solution then you're part of the problem, so stop complaining about it if you refuse to make it better. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
if you read stupid propaganda you're gonna be as stupid as they want you to be, anything like what you said above is is typical mass manipulation to turn you into an obedient tool
Mcgalakar (EUNE)
: >there's no need to believe facts lol they don't care about your faith. Facts don't need my faith, as they are the facts. Your statement is not the fact, it is based on your own assumption. Your assumption is: I'm a poor guy who always gets bad teammates, and everyone who got out of bronze/silver had only a great teams. This assumption is simply wrong. They got out of bronze/silver because they were good. Good player can patch up mistakes made by others. Decent player is fully dependent on his team, and bad player makes this mistakes. So your opinions are not facts, they are just assumptions made by the player that can't get out of silver. >LOL "trash teammates make you a favor when they int because they give less gold" the stupidies people claim to avoid facing reality. The fact that you did not even try to understand what I wrote says a lot more about you than anything you wanted others to believe in.
yawn when it sounds %%%%%%ed from the first words I dont keep going, try to do better next time. If you cant, ask an adult or some valid person to type instead
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Aezander (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=ShirleyiCw,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=yFjnPArp,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-10-02T03:01:16.581+0000) > > Happened to me twice in the same day recently, and today it happened to me TWICE again!!! One of those little piece of shyt inted so obviously that everybody reported him including the ennemy team and yet he was STILL playing and ONCE AGAIN in my team. It's not good to start developing a persecution syndrome. And for the record, next time don't deny the Gods of RGN their tribute; roll a d20 or a pair of d10s before hitting play. ^_^
The syndrome is in riot people's deranged minds. They clearly admitted targetting me in emails, those people are fkn hypocrites.
Mcgalakar (EUNE)
: If in 80% of them your team is bad, maybe the problem is you and not them?
delusional, if you knew the game you'd know how it works
: damn son, you're delusional
lol you just think you're good when it's only luck, too bad THAT is true delusion
: You're the garbage of your team if you can't act like a decent human being.
Lol looks like blueeyecucking is the alt of this pathetic little shit shiwah who keeps getting butthurt xD
: i would say dont look at 10 games look at like 30. i can some times lose 8 game then after that win 15
I have played a lot of games and they always, always give me trash teams 80% of the time. Only maybe 15% of the games are decent, and 5% are ridiculous stomps because one guy feeds or afk
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Rioter Comments
: Except that’s exactly what you want. Basically you either want to ban everyone from bronze (aka ban a good 1/3 of the community, likely including yourself) which in itself is a stupid idea or you want to scrap bronze and move everyone to silver which again does nothing. And you want a system which detects skill, which is ranked, but your not allowed on ranked without passing... but to pass you would have to play ranked.... see the problem there. Your idea is non sensicle and just because you feel like you are unfairly stuck in bronze despite the fact that it’s your own doing... and you insult anyone who tells you otherwise... very childish behaviour
except not at all... Im saying people shouldnt be allowed in ranked until they reach a certain levl of perf
: Not once did I say I was better than you. I'm giving you advice. Take it or leave it. Just realise that if your post has 8 downvotes, and has many people in the comments hating on your post, you're probably wrong. And also, you didn't tell me anything about your automated system and your stats ^^.
the crowd opinion has absolutely no value... It just reflect the summ of all mediocrity
Mcgalakar (EUNE)
: It is hard to believe that only you have uncarriable teams and the two of them, had only a pro teams, LCK smurfs. I will stand on my position, that they are just simply better than silver players. Btw. if your Sona was only dying, she was giving less and less money with each of kills. So it is impossible to build a good money advantage (or in this case catch other team) with just killing one player. Of course there are games, that are impossible to carry. Maybe this one was also one of them, but in most of cases there is possibility to carry them.
> [{quoted}](name=Mcgalakar,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=ioGotrw8,comment-id=00030000000000000000,timestamp=2018-09-26T21:50:09.688+0000) > > It is hard to believe that only you have uncarriable teams and the two of them, had only a pro teams, LCK smurfs. I will stand on my position, that they are just simply better than silver players. there's no need to believe facts lol they don't care about your faith. > Btw. if your Sona was only dying, she was giving less and less money with each of kills. So it is impossible to build a good money advantage (or in this case catch other team) with just killing one player. LOL "trash teammates make you a favor when they int because they give less gold" the stupidies people claim to avoid facing reality.
Sefi (EUNE)
: Suck it up. Either dodge or learn how to support (its not that hard). I refuse to spend in que enough time to finish a dark souls speed run.
Nah, I can already play support very well, just not going to
Enjutsu (EUNE)
: Longer waiting time means worse matchmaking, which can lead to having other support being much stronger.
LOL anyone can get stronger including your support
: I would rather say that you don't get game design at all. Maybe the game serves player**s**, but not one player, so Riots goal is maybe to make this game as enjoyable as possible for everyone, not just for you. Also Riot offers a service, which is the game, and it's your choice to play it or not, just like a film, music etc: If you don't like it, don't play/watch/listen to it. Since you don't even have to pay anything to play...what makes you think that they should care about what you want?
> [{quoted}](name=SSI CptHaunted,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=q4UMsGag,comment-id=000900000000,timestamp=2018-09-27T06:17:19.181+0000) > > I would rather say that you don't get game design at all. LOL ironic that's called projection > If you don't like it, don't play/watch/listen to it. Since you don't even have to pay anything to play...what makes you think that they should care about what you want? I do exactly what I want, I play this game and I say it's crap what you gonna do about it? I have never paid a single euro to riot and never will, not my business if they want to make their game better or just keep ruining it.
: What's even the point of creating new divisions? Seem stupid to me. As for the matter at hand, it will just make the average player base sink lower. It will be harder to become silver/gold but still perceived as "noob" so less rewarding. And who wants to be "grand master" when you would have been CHALLENGER... No really that seems like a terrible idea.
ahahahahah the butthurt downvotes xDDD
: Don’t talk about they, it’s a team game so if your lanes are losing its your fold as well. Especially when you are a jungle main. And if your lanes losing you need to gank more/better. It’s not always there fold or his it’s yours as well. One of the main problems in bronze is in my opinion they blame others to much and don’t look at themselves. Start to look at yourself and improve yourself. After that start to carry.
yeah it's a team game and if you get the bad ones you are screwed! There's no carrying 1v9
Mcgalakar (EUNE)
: Getting out of silver is also not a problem. My friend, playing only a support, this and previous season got to gold when he started playing ranked seriously. One of the people at my friend list, was silver 2 years ago, now is diamond. If you are good, you will win and carry. It is simple. If I'm at silver right now, then this means that my skill level is only at silver level.
yeah if you get the good teams! Just last game, our support was afk. For some reason I felt like not remaking and we kept playing. I litterally destroyed them, their whole jungle was mine. I shat on them. Sona eventually came back and I told her to just not feed. Guess what she did?YES OF COURSE THAT TRASH INTED. 0/12. She literally carried them, she was worse than afk. Cait was pretty useless. Top was ok. 3v6. Unwinnable. IT's that simple. And for like 12 games I had only but uncarryable trash like this. So no, it's not about skill, its mostly about luck.
: Wasn't going to do this because it's a pretty negative thing to do, but you've forced me to address everything in your post. So here goes: Scrapping bronze already addressed. The more you think about your team being the issue, the less time you have to work on your own mistakes. I am 100% sure you are not the greatest player in the world, and looking at your op.gg you seem to be a jungle main. There are countless things to improve on as a jungler, including but not limited to, pathing, efficient clearing, gank routes, effective routes on each champion you play and champion mechanics. Ofc there are much much much more things you can improve on. You say you want an automated system to detect skill level right? So that system would deem you as unworthy to play ranked because you are 31% win rate overall, 11% over 9 games on sej, 29% over 7 games on sion. You also have only 1 positive K/D which is Rammus. You're on an 8 game loss streak and your best win rate on a champion with over 5 games on is Kayn with 50% win rate. You've also had a lot of sub 50% kill participation in your games and pretty average and below cs gains. You are only level 42 with a very low amount of normal games played and very little games on most champions. On top of it all, skill level isn't measured through 1 or 2 games. Therefore, your soloq game team can always have bad games. You can't judge someone's skill from that 1 game you play with them, it just doesn't work. Basically, what I'm saying is: Get Good. You can win so many more games if you stop blaming your team and start improving your own mistakes.
exactly like I said, typical board lurker. Just the first and last sentence give it away : low level reasoning paired with an urge to tell others "I'm better than you". I've learnt to detect those types because there's no hope to debate with someone who's only there to be a teacher and I'm not a student...
Player47 (EUW)
: How is it off-topic? hes directly addressing your comment. You said "Why not scrap bronze all together"
uh? Also learn to read it's obviously completely off, the guy thinks I want to change the name of bronze and silver to gold, that's so stupid. Obviously he just came here because he hopes he can trash talk someone lol probably needs to comfort himself, maybe low IQ or has no talent and needs to tell other people to git gud
Mcgalakar (EUNE)
: >You completely destroy the other team, you're million miles away in terms of skill, but your team always loses the game, so what's the point? If you are so far ahead and can't close the game, is that really your team fault? If you are at a bronze level, you are at bronze. I was bronze V last season (fun time, games at bronze V are really amazing, you feel like you are playing something completely different to League of Legends, I miss that time a little), this season I got to silver without any problems (when I hit silver V I had win rate above 70%). And I never cared if my team is good or bad. If they were good, we won in 15 minutes and I could play another game. If they were not, I carried them, that's all. And let's be honest, in bronze you can take 3 towers (all in your lane) before anyone will even notice that you are missing from the ARAM (bronze players plays ARAM mode at SR from minute 20). You don't need to be the one who hunt for kills, you should be the one who hunt after towers. Your KDA, cs or anything else is way less important. Had a top laner who went 0/10 in early game, just to use their time to split push one lane and winning us the game.
> [{quoted}](name=Mcgalakar,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=ioGotrw8,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-09-26T15:33:13.117+0000) > > If you are at a bronze level, you are at bronze And you'll also stay there if you're better, unless you get decent teams. For ex, 2 games ago, I had a 10/27 bot. 3v7 is unwinnable, it's that simple. The last game, it was 7v3. They had a very high level veigar, 29/5, but 3v7 is unwinnable. It's that simple. >this season I got to silver without any problems yeah me too, the problem isnt getting to silver but getting out of it. It's the basic elo every single new player gets when they start ranked, so I also count it as "bronze". You lose 8/10 placement games and you still get silver with a new account. There you have the worst idiots but also very decent players, so you cant carry solo.
: Let's scrap bronze yea. Then everyone will be in silver, and a few months down the line you'd say the same about silver, so we'd scrap silver, pushing everyone into gold. Then another few months you'd say the same about gold, so we scrap gold ect ect until there is only challenger where 100% of the community is in and it doesn't work.
totally off-topic, 1/100, next time read the content and not the title
: dont worry... next season those people will be Iron division, and you can still stay bronze, which is 1 tier above them :)
What's even the point of creating new divisions? Seem stupid to me. As for the matter at hand, it will just make the average player base sink lower. It will be harder to become silver/gold but still perceived as "noob" so less rewarding. And who wants to be "grand master" when you would have been CHALLENGER... No really that seems like a terrible idea.
VIT Laati (EUNE)
: Looking at your OP.GG, there is a reason for the existence of Bronze.
very bronze thing to say
: just to be clear: you're actually encouraging to go trolling around when autofilled (instead of dodging) because other players didn't dodge in your place? I'm not understanding your point, care to elaborate? and FYI people trolling when autofilled is not a "consequence of riot policies" but a consequence of being a douche.
That's the exact consequences of the system they put in place. Remember this is a game, not a job. 99% of people already take orders or conform to frustrating rules all day, so we don't want the same experience in a game. If they create a game for robots then they'll behave as they're told. But this is a game for humans. If the game designers create a frustrating situation, it's a fail on their part. So yeah I'm gonna keep trolling (50% of players at my elo troll anyway) but my point is to remove autofill
Enjutsu (EUNE)
: It seems like you don't understand everything what Auto-fill does and why low Queue times are important. The longer matchmaking has to look for the players the more it has to stretch it search area as in a broader rank range.
it seems like you dont understand how it doesn't make the other support stronger
Strigina (EUNE)
: To be honest I am quite happy the autofill exists. In S6, when the new select kicked in, I always chose mid primary and support secondary. Do you want to know how many times I was mid out of 360+ games? Three.bloody.times. That's not even one percent. And everyone with support as secondary role had the same problem. Even people who went "fill" as one of their roles. The reaction of those people was simple - they stopped to use support as one of their roles and placed another one, often some they didn't know that well, there so they had chance for their primary role. So there was even fewer support players which...and guess what...made the queues even longer. So us, who didn't have the chance for their primary role and became "secondary support mains" cried on this boards and begged for solution. Riot gave us autofill and made us happy. You are welcome.
the problem here is because riot doesn't respect your choice and just fills you support everytime. They should only place you support when the queue becomes really too long... Also I used to pick support 2nd choice after autofill was introduced and they would still fill you support everytime. Apparently they changed it recently and that didn't really extend queue times
: The problem is not that people get autofilled, the problem is how people behave when they get autofilled. When the support does not play like a support then that's not the fault of the autofill system.
No you get game design wrong. The players aren't serving the game, it's the game that serves players.
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