Coopa123 (EUW)
: you're not actually cussing at your teammates, you're just incredibly and disgustingly toxic without using swear words. good job.
ty for telling me that im a disgusting person. I guess you had nothing better to do. Good job.
: > [{quoted}](name=Skylor93,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=OEUAtdM2,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2018-01-28T18:07:17.706+0000) > > Ok so we are gonna ignore the fact that some players just called me %%%%%%? Is that okay for you? I've just asked once to report them when they insulted me... I didnt's spam, and i got only trolled/insulted by enemy jinx. To all of this i didnt respond, neither i insulted them... you are telling me that for this i deserve to be punished? I was just asking for help/support by the rest of the players... calling someone %%%%%%s it's not really a "soft" compliment No we're not ignoring this fact at all. All you had to do was mute them or ignore them and report them at the end of the game. Stop feeling the need to report call and whinge the entire game because then not only have you already lost the game, but you've also fell right in to the troller's hands by being as bad as them.
Excuse me if i have still hope for this community and if i trust other players' support, once people were not all mean, once they cared and punished together toxic players. I forgot now everyone is selfish and just wanna troll or criticize you.
: > [{quoted}](name=Skylor93,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=OEUAtdM2,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2018-01-28T18:27:22.505+0000) > > Sorry i cant find in the Summoner's code where exactly that specific call for help is punished. Nice try. The summoner's code is intentionally written to be vague so that the community can decide for itself on a unanimous basis what can and can't be considered punishable, rather than, say, hammering the report button solely because of one profanity in any context. Your attempt at playing lawyer means nothing. Especially not since, once again, report-calling wasn't the only thing you did wrong. > The post is all about the fact that i didnt respond in return to them Except you did. We can see in the chatlog that you did. Who are you trying to fool here? Us or yourself?
Next time i will say thanks very much after someone calls me %%%%%%ed, and you will still find a way to consider that answer toxic, im sure.
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
on each?! not really, only on the ones who called me mentally %%%%%%ed... and i was just responding to an incredibly heavy insult, letting them know they were gonna be banned for that. I kept playing all the time and i kept cooperating. I've asked for report one time only, so what's wrong with your prejudice? Calling someone a child after he has insulted you multiple times and keeps doing that, right before muting him isn't at all on the same level of their kind of insults. I disagree.
: Yeah, I've seen more chatlogs like this. Rule of thumb: If it's bannable, don't repeat it.
it's bannable not reacting to insults, but instead pointing them out in hope that other players will notice it? So reporting toxic ppl to get them punished and restore the community is a bannable thing? This is completely ridicolous!
: > [{quoted}](name=Skylor93,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=OEUAtdM2,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2018-01-28T18:07:17.706+0000) > > Ok so we are gonna ignore the fact that some players just called me %%%%%%? Well, does that change the fact that you did something wrong in return? No. The behaviour of others does not excuse your behaviour, and having a reason to act the way you did doesn't magically make it ok to act the way you did. So yes, we _are_ going to ignore it, because this punishment isn't about what _they_ did. This is about what _you_ did.
Sure like asking for help by other players with reports. Sorry i cant find in the Summoner's code where exactly that specific call for help is punished. The post is all about the fact that i didnt respond in return to them, and still i got banned...
: > Skylor93: enjoy permaban > Skylor93: get a life ^^ > Skylor93: xaya and thresh best _**cancer players**_ > Skylor93: i smell ban > Skylor93: hi troll jynx > Skylor93: nice joke ^^ > Banned for asking to report ppl insulting me If you just asked for report your chat logs should look like that:(a hypothetical example ) Achates: w/e you say dude kk. Achates:tilt more :<<< Achates :muted & reported/raported/raptor etc. (which can be avoided by typing "stop chatting idk what's wrong with you lol!") Not only you gonna piss him off but also you will not risk the "big" hammer. Now these are 3 secenteces only ,you wouldn't get banned with a 14 days just by typing these 3 for sure. Maybe a chat ban due to the last one but only if do it often but nothing more. Obviously you typed way more than asking for report.At least ..this is how i act if i really got tilted
the part where i keep saying things like "i hope you are gonna get banned" aren't in all chat, and i typed that right b4 muting them. Anyway in this sentences i've almost lost my calm, since i was even being trolled by the enemies instead of getting any support, you know like when you have faith in a community and its people... I guess that was my mistake.
: Whelp, at least you got time to do something special for your girlfriend now
Lol, thank god I've already settled that. Still, i feel like this is all unfair... :(
: Yeah you can't wrote forbidden words. if they do, they have ban, no need to call for another reports. Possibly you would get suspension back, if your other messages was clear maybe support would change it, since your forbidden words, were just about what they wrote, but you were spamming words like perma ban, so probably not (writing to sbd that he will get perma-banned for insulting is I think not punishable, but spamming it is annoying and kind of harass).
half of the chat is about ending game screen, so i didn't spam that much... that's my problem with this.
: Go to the Riot support section and then click on ticket.
after that if i go to the suspension's section i cant find any ticket option.
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
The entire game, not really. I've just asked to report them only one time for every player, naming him. And the last half of the chat log is about the end game screen so... how can you judge so quickly? I didnt know multiple reports dont change anything, i've always thought that if someone is acting negative and gets x9 reports he gets punished for sure. I know that insults are not the only reason for ban, but right here i think all i did was asking for support by the other players. Just this.
: Little tip so you don't get permabanned next time: Don't quote people like that, the punishment system can't detect if you quote stuff. Better write a ticket to Riot support so they can have a look into this.
I didnt know tha system was this bad. Do you know how exaclty can i write the ticket, i cant find the right section.
: Let's leave aside how the report-calling wasn't the _only_ punishable thing you did in the chatlog. Even then, did you know that asking for reports does nothing in a best-case scenario? After all, if one person reports a player, it has the same effect in the context of that one game as multiple reports. Most of the time, asking for reports just spreads needless acrimony among the players who effectively have to put up with you during the match, and that really doesn't make you any better than the people you're upset about. That's why reporting is designed to be done anonymously, after all.
Ok so we are gonna ignore the fact that some players just called me %%%%%%? Is that okay for you? I've just asked once to report them when they insulted me... I didnt's spam, and i got only trolled/insulted by enemy jinx. To all of this i didnt respond, neither i insulted them... you are telling me that for this i deserve to be punished? I was just asking for help/support by the rest of the players... calling someone %%%%%%s it's not really a "soft" compliment
CJXander (EUNE)
: You don't need the vote of others to start an investigation, you aren't any better than them so from my point of view is a ban well deserved, just mute, shut up, mind your own game then report. ;) easy as that.
So even asking to report toxic ppl now makes me someone who deserves ban?! What the hell is this logic? Are you serious?
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: Stupid Rito! They only have to manage servers 24/7, which host millions of players! How dare they encounter an error which means you can't play their free game for at least 2 hours! Disgraceful! I feel your pain brother!
> [{quoted}](name=OP katalies,realm=EUW,application-id=ln3nNJrX,discussion-id=w7ONHsjn,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-09-13T13:54:40.177+0000) > > Stupid Rito! They only have to manage servers 24/7, which host millions of players! How dare they encounter an error which means you can't play their free game for at least 2 hours! Disgraceful! I feel your pain brother! +1 ty brother u.u
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Hansiman (EUNE)
: IP rewards were removed because Riot did see there were people hopping in only to get the rewards. So what's the problem? There was an issue, and they fixed it. Again, I urge you to keep things constructive.
i've was just explaining one of many riot's contraddictions. The problems are many and are visible to all the ones who wanna see for real
huckasex (EUW)
: punishment deserved, end of story /thread
brillant reply, maybe you could keep it for yourself but nevermind
Jens Cole (EUNE)
Hansiman (EUNE)
: Why do you wish to display yourself like this? This is childish. -Servers have had issues: Riot has admitted this. -"Hacks" and "DDOS", by the correct terminology have been a problem: Riot has admitted this. There's even a sticky on the top of the boards front page about it posted by Riot. -Tribunal voters are not the reason for your ban. Also, Tribunal voters got no rewards. They did for a small period after the Tribunal was launched, but for the majority of the Tribunal existence, that isn't the case. You're just showing everyone why you got removed from the game. Feel free to discuss the matter constructively. You're entitled to an opinion. But if you're just going to spam nonsense like this, the matter will be closed.
there were ip rewards and that system was a failure, i think i was one of the few people who really tried to judge reports in a fair way. By the way do you think Orwell is childish? that is just an example of the hypocrisy there is in this community.
Plussmaci (EUW)
: What if i tell you, some people play this game for fun. Fun does not equal winning. If i come home from a hard days work and want to relax by playing a game of League. I would definitely want you out of my game by muting you and reporting after. I`m glad that the system works. Even if one by one toxic players will get eliminated. If you don`t care about this at all now, just close the boards tab and let us have a nice day and we wish you the same.
do you really think im like this all the time? First you dont know me, second i was really nervous even before that game and i met a guy who managed to make me lose my patience. I would have been banned long ago if it's like you said. I got mad and there were even good reasons for that, but i dont get mad every single time. Just one case after months of pause and positive gameplay and the results is permabanned. Think about it before judging things superficially.
: But that you say you stopped because of the bad community. Meanwhile that's the worst flame i have ever seen
so you dont even know what flame is at all.
Riquelme375 (EUNE)
: I dont think people here understand. A negative game deserves punishment, YES. A ban is after a few games of toxicity, but a permaban is after a few bans. If OP is not lying, he didn't get banned. Getting permabanned after ONE GAME is never justified, even if the player admitted to being satan in game.
finally someone with a brain. I'm not changing the truth or omitting facts. It will not change anything at all now. I know this. Probably was gonna quit League of Legends anyway, because a game is not supposed to make people nervous and angry, and rarely i havent feel that way after playing it. I've had SO MUCH patience for so many times, but there's a limit and LOL can easilty get you mad. You will see, it is gonna be a nonsense system and im sure, even as in the past, it is gonna be an automatical system that will apply his terms without any consideration, even if "it's said" that admins are "checking" every case.... best biggest lie ever. I just hope people are gonna be banned like me and then all their hypocrisy will fade away.
Bronze4life (EUNE)
: OMG !!! You really think you did nothing?? This is a very deserved bann, new system works great.
ahahaha if it will include people like you im glad i will not be part of it anymore
Hansiman (EUNE)
: Why do you repeat that lie after admitting you made a mistake? You've admitted twice that you have been chat restricted before.
Jens Cole (EUNE)
: warning means nothing. you can get warned if you are positive (false reports). you were reported after that game probably by your whole team and after that your previous games (which may not have been reported) were also reviewed. But if you believe you were banned wrongly send a ticket to support. There are cases where people are banned too harsh and then support lowers their punishment.
where do i do that? support service is inexistent
Hansiman (EUNE)
: Your excuses aren't going to work. Your behaviour got you banned, nobody elses. It has been made clear to you that such behaviour as you portray is unwanted by both the Riot, and the community. How you decide to act upon this, is your decision.
i dont give a fuck about this at all, but i think there could be even a sue possibility
Skylor93 (EUW)
: Permanent Banned without reason!!!
: I don't think you get what we're saying...
you are just moralizing on something ridicolous, as ridicolous as people like you. I'm really happy i got banned. So many hypocrites in the world
Jens Cole (EUNE)
: it wasn't only one game.
oh yeah, right i got warned one year ago.... seriously that's my punishment in one year. no warning no restrictions no suspension just one game and permabanned. even ignoring my 3months pause, even b4 that i've never been reported/punished. So actually it IS ONE GAME ONLY.
Hansiman (EUNE)
: Do you know what "retarded" is? It's an offensive slur for people with an [intellectual disability]( Knowing that: how do you think other people feel if they have a family member who has this disability, and see you throwing it around as a word of mockery? Do you know how much that can actually hurt someone? Yes, I see it as the same as throwing around the word cancer. How do you think people feel when people throw that word around when they have family who are suffering, or whom has passed, caused by cancer?
yeah sure, so let's bann people for rhetorical figures. Obviously it isnt meant to refer to people with serious health problems. I've lost family members because of diseases and i know perfectly the difference between these situations. You are involving unrelated things just to look right. So this game is based on "killing" your enemies, so do we have to take it like an encouragemnt to violence and extermination? what about people who actually really died or have lost someone? shouldn't they feel offended by such things?! Dont mix up things by chance, please.
Hansiman (EUNE)
: I'm quite sure that this isn't just a single game. Yes, a single game is sent to you as evidence, but more games are considered for the punishment. You were caught by the new system launched two days ago, that provides 14 day bans, and permabans, within 15 minutes of a game ending where behaviour violations took place. This system targets the very extreme cases ingame. The first several thousand cases are **all** manually checked by Riot to verify the verdict. I don't need to see the other peoples chat logs, because this case is about you, and you alone. If other people break the rules, they get punished as well. It's not about who started it first, it's about what you do. Re-read the mail you got from Riot, and look at the last paragraph. It states: > As a community, we also don't believe that retaliation is an appropriate response, so in cases where there is retaliation, both players receive penalties. I am also appalled by how you toss around "retarded" as an insult. You should really learn what you're saying there. To me, this is the exact same thing as going around wishing people get cancer.
same thing like wishing cancer?! are you serious?! Im starting to appreciate the fact that im no longer part of this community then. You people have real problems and this game is gonna be empty if this is the banning system, you are gonna have 90% of players banned. This is ridicolous.
: Just because you have used a lot of money doesn't mean you can't get banned
look the chat log and tell me where are the elements to perma bann me. One single game where i've flamed after months of pause and even more months of positive gameplay. And we are not talking about racism or whatever, it's just calling someone idiot, seriously this must be a joke.
JQKAndrei (EUW)
: Go shout those words to a 10 years old kid, you'll get arrested for sure.
im gonna ignore you, just to let you know
Jens Cole (EUNE)
: Everything you wrote was flame in this log. There was nothing positive or even neutral there.
so if someone loses his patience in ONE game let's perma bann him right? Seriously did you find any heavy insult, racist form, violence threats or whatever? calling a guy idiot makes me perma banned? seriously?!
Hansiman (EUNE)
: Greetings. I looked at the log and I have to ask: do you think it's ok to behave like you did? This is not a joke, nor is it likely to be an error. Permabans are handed out to the extreme cases of violations in the game, and it also considers your behaviour in previous games. Just because you've taken a break, the system doesn't forget about the last matches you played. There's also a contradiction in your post: > i've never been reported or restricted in any way --- > My last resctriction chat was about October 2014 So you **were** reported and restricted in the past due to your behaviour. That restriction was your chance to improve your behaviour, which it doesn't seem like you did. You complain about this being the worst community in a multiplayer game: why do you insist on being part of the bad community, and not the good one?
im actually shocked so yes that was a mistake i mean about the contraddiction. I got chat restricted in october and since then i've never acted negative. So you are telling me that if you get anrgy in one game you get perma banned?! Really?! ONE SINGLE GAME WHERE I LOST PATIENCE, and you can't see other's chat log so don't judge me without knowing the provocations i've been through.
JQKAndrei (EUW)
: Well, for the first 80% of the chat I was also thinking that it wasn't worth a permaban, then I saw the last part and I can agree with Riot's decision. You played a game where you spent most of the time harrassing your teammates, you didn't even try to win and still complain about others. Because of this you created a negative atmosphere for your 4 teammates and your 5 opponents by asking them for reports. The last thing that made Riot give you the permaban are those last 10-15 lines, where you heavily harrass one player without hesitation. If you consider there are young players in this game, as young as 10 years old, it's Riot's job to protect them. In real life you would've been arrested. Don't think the fact you spent money makes you different, Riot's objective is to remove or reform toxicity, this project cannot resolve if there are exceptions.
seriously being arrested?! are you serious? ahahaha i asked for serious replies
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