: New honour system? Do I lose my current badge? ¬_¬
i'm sorry but there is no way u have that badge in an honest way, it's just NOBODY even uses the system anymore.. you probably spammed normals and begged for honors..
: "No excuse to try something off in normal's. You trolls!" is just sad when people say that
Desastrus (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Socloseagain,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=G2VPALZR,comment-id=000800010000000000000001,timestamp=2017-04-21T15:42:30.489+0000) > > Hey any chance u can check my last game with trynda? I was 12/5/9. We had baron, we had more drakes, I pressured alot top, I helped my team shut down their adc, I even got a quadra, we were just losing Teamfight.. what shouldve I done to win? :s Okay, I'm gonna post this as I watch your replay. I'm also gonna enable fog of war so that I see things from your perspective. -As far as the first 11 minutes go, I don't honestly have much to say. I think once you didn't recall when you should have and kept hitting the tower instead, but other than that it seems solid. Your used your E quite randomly a few times in the early game and opened yourself up a bit, but nothing bad happened. As far as your skill usage goes in general, I can't see any real problems tbh. Then again, I'm not a Trynda expert. -I'm at 19 mins now and I don't really like how you keep chasing people instead of focusing on things that actually matter. At least that's the general impression I'm getting. This kind of playstyle makes it very easy to bait you into unafavourable positions. Not saying it's a big flaw in low Plat, but later it might become important. Obviously it's all more nuanced than I'm making it seem, but I'm just trying to generalize. -I like it by the way how you take the last wave near the Yasuo's tower and then go to their jungle, roam, try to flank, etc. That's exactly the right thing to do. -I'm at 23:30 and so far you've been making good decisions and teamfighting well in mid-game. You also make people chase you, which is a huge win in itself if you escape, which you do. I mean, so far you did a lot to help your team. -27 min, you take drake, and you have baron. You are also much stronger than everyone else. The enemy team is not behind though, you are the only one on your team that can duel all of them. -Now this fight happens, eh. I mean, it's really unfortunate. Lee goes out of position, then baits your team into a bad spot while getting killed. I actually think they got pretty lucky there. Most of the time when somebody gets caught they screw themselves over, now it was the opposite. Of course, when all 4 of you were really low you all had to do your best to escape instead of re-engaging, but then Ekko flashes, everyone gets confused, and shit happens. I wouldn't blame you there in the slightest. -At 33-34 min this bad 5v4 fight near the drake... First off, you had to go to the drake asap Instead of hanging around the river. Your team was about to get contested and they needed you. I really think you joined your team too late, and I do think it could have made a difference. Because of that they couldn't finish the drake fast enough and got engaged on - they didn't even get a chance to reposition themselves for the fight. Was it an easy decision to make? I don't know. After all usually nothing bad is gonna happen if you are a bit inefficient. But this time it did. You gotta be careful. -At 33:44 I think you missed a great opportunity. If I were you, I would have dashed through Lee and Ekko right on Xayah and used all my shit on her. Instead you chose to dash away. Then again, this is all about understanding the situation and making the right decision. It would not have been a very easy decision to make either, and of course I cannot know what would have happened if you did what I think would have been the right decision. I just think that considering how strong you were it was the single best decision given the situation. Now you end up dying and your team gets chased down and then they take the inhibitor. -Then you all leave the base without an inhibitor and pick up a fight that you absolutely cannot win. The right course of action would have been to either defend from the base or contest baron as 5 (if that's what they would be doing) while trying not to pick up a "fair" teamfight in general. I dunno who engaged there, but it doesn't really matter. -Overall, I do think this game was still pretty hard to win. But that happens. There are also games that are pretty hard to lose... Still, you played that better than your team, and certainly better than a normal P5 player in general. I think you can climb if you keep this up.
Oh damn, when I asked u to watch my replay I did it with the intention that I had errors in my gameplay, was just wondering where, and u pointed me out those greatly! So at min 33-34 at drake I definitely did bad there, not only I should have joined earlier but I think I coulve fought more instead of going back. At 33:44 I didnt had ult so I was kind of scared going all in, plus no flash. But yeah seeing things from your perspective now gives me a different angle of view that there are certainly better decisions I could've done at some points of the game. Thank u so much for the help!
: oh thats just like me , but people here will just say the white knight trash
Desastrus (EUNE)
: Yeah, it doesn't seem to be working for some reason (op.gg)... About Yorick then: -At level 1 I usually just last hit things with my Q and see if I can do a small level 2 all-in with my ghouls and E if I can find the opportunity. Just care for their jungler. If you get the wave pushing towards them and think that their jungler might gank soon, make sure get the wave to their tower ASAP so it bounces back to you later on. In the meantime you can either chill if you still have a lot of hp and pots or recall. -If I'm up against a champion that wants to duel me early (think of Darius, Yasuo, Renekton...), I usually just let them push me in while trying to keep the wave close to my turret so that I can be safe and make it possible for my jungler to come. In case like this I also run full flat armour rune page with ad marks. If I feel that a lot of single target harassment or an early all-in is gonna come my way, I start with doran's shield as well instead of flask. Yorick is actually really weak early. -For masteries, I only use Grasp. If I feel that I'm gonna have to start with doran's shield, I also make sure to get some mana regen on the mastery page. If I feel that I still lack mana, I just get corrupting pot right after or spellthief's edge (Korean tactics). Getting an early Cull in a farm lane might also be a good idea. As for my first item, I get either TF or Iceborn. Iceborn is good if you are losing vs ad champion (not so good against Darius though, unless you get some hp beforehand (prolly bami's cinder)). If you are against ap, you can get early hexdrinker/specter's cowl (mercs too if needed) before completing TF. -If you get an early lead, make sure to freeze the wave near your tower and deny your lane opponent instead of perma-shoving. This is really important if you don't want them to be even in cs and exp. Make sure to have a lot of graves near your freeze spot so that you can immediately punish your opponent if they try to break the freeze. If they leave the lane, ping them out, wait until you can see them elsewhere, then push the wave to their tower, recall, then repeat. -After you take the first two towers (please, try not to get killed while doing it), either do the same with bot or group with your team (depends on the situation and whether you have your tp up). Since nothing is left top, just maintain the pressure there by shoving 1-2 waves (depending how far the next wave is) and then leaving. Sometimes you can raid the jungle in between. Don't get baited into fights on their side of the map while split-pushing, you are not Jax or Tryndamere. You can't one-shot people and you can't escape easily. In general, one of the big mistakes in split-pushing is picking up small, meaningless fights that make you waste your time/bait you in into an even bigger problem. In reality, split-pushing is more about maintaining pressure and seeing whether you can take towers (if you think nobody's gonna come). You need to keep your eye on the map. If you are fed, sometimes you can 1v2, but you need to know who's coming. -Be precise with your tp ganks. Yorick is actually a pretty bad tp ganker because of his kit. He is too easy to kite. -In teamfights, focus on peeling for your carries and zoning people with W. Their carries will usually kite you. -Again, the game is too complex and nuanced for general tips of the sort I just gave. You really need to think about what's going on and try to identify the most likely consequences of what you are doing... -Check this video of Diamond 5 Yorick getting coached: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9fIC08JvnU P.S. Ignore the matchmaking conspiracy theorists, they are like the Jehovah's witnesses of League.
Hey any chance u can check my last game with trynda? I was 12/5/9. We had baron, we had more drakes, I pressured alot top, I helped my team shut down their adc, I even got a quadra, we were just losing Teamfight.. what shouldve I done to win? :s
: If you already have 3 tokens you will not get more. Also S- dont give level 7 token :)
No I only have one token, also from these 3 games only 1 was S- rest were S or even S+ but not sure for the plus. It was a clear S for sure at least twice! :(
Rioter Comments
Blazet25 (EUW)
: That probably happens due to the friend you play with having a higher mmr than yours.
Nah they are usually gold tiers and I doubt they had more mmr tho :S
: [Patch 7.7] Skarner Ultimate Bug (Courage of the Colossus)
: The passive no longer blocks dragon damage, but it can block cannon minion damage which is just stupid, the amount of times ive died due to cannon procking my shield is stupid. Also it doesn't stop Darius bleed either, you block the attack, but the stack still applies for some reason. Also if you fall behind with panth in the lane faze, you become so useless its a joke.
Oh I see, I've missed that one. But yeah blocking cannon shot is not very useful. I didn't know about the darius stack tho :O that sux
Desastrus (EUNE)
: Yeah, it doesn't seem to be working for some reason (op.gg)... About Yorick then: -At level 1 I usually just last hit things with my Q and see if I can do a small level 2 all-in with my ghouls and E if I can find the opportunity. Just care for their jungler. If you get the wave pushing towards them and think that their jungler might gank soon, make sure get the wave to their tower ASAP so it bounces back to you later on. In the meantime you can either chill if you still have a lot of hp and pots or recall. -If I'm up against a champion that wants to duel me early (think of Darius, Yasuo, Renekton...), I usually just let them push me in while trying to keep the wave close to my turret so that I can be safe and make it possible for my jungler to come. In case like this I also run full flat armour rune page with ad marks. If I feel that a lot of single target harassment or an early all-in is gonna come my way, I start with doran's shield as well instead of flask. Yorick is actually really weak early. -For masteries, I only use Grasp. If I feel that I'm gonna have to start with doran's shield, I also make sure to get some mana regen on the mastery page. If I feel that I still lack mana, I just get corrupting pot right after or spellthief's edge (Korean tactics). Getting an early Cull in a farm lane might also be a good idea. As for my first item, I get either TF or Iceborn. Iceborn is good if you are losing vs ad champion (not so good against Darius though, unless you get some hp beforehand (prolly bami's cinder)). If you are against ap, you can get early hexdrinker/specter's cowl (mercs too if needed) before completing TF. -If you get an early lead, make sure to freeze the wave near your tower and deny your lane opponent instead of perma-shoving. This is really important if you don't want them to be even in cs and exp. Make sure to have a lot of graves near your freeze spot so that you can immediately punish your opponent if they try to break the freeze. If they leave the lane, ping them out, wait until you can see them elsewhere, then push the wave to their tower, recall, then repeat. -After you take the first two towers (please, try not to get killed while doing it), either do the same with bot or group with your team (depends on the situation and whether you have your tp up). Since nothing is left top, just maintain the pressure there by shoving 1-2 waves (depending how far the next wave is) and then leaving. Sometimes you can raid the jungle in between. Don't get baited into fights on their side of the map while split-pushing, you are not Jax or Tryndamere. You can't one-shot people and you can't escape easily. In general, one of the big mistakes in split-pushing is picking up small, meaningless fights that make you waste your time/bait you in into an even bigger problem. In reality, split-pushing is more about maintaining pressure and seeing whether you can take towers (if you think nobody's gonna come). You need to keep your eye on the map. If you are fed, sometimes you can 1v2, but you need to know who's coming. -Be precise with your tp ganks. Yorick is actually a pretty bad tp ganker because of his kit. He is too easy to kite. -In teamfights, focus on peeling for your carries and zoning people with W. Their carries will usually kite you. -Again, the game is too complex and nuanced for general tips of the sort I just gave. You really need to think about what's going on and try to identify the most likely consequences of what you are doing... -Check this video of Diamond 5 Yorick getting coached: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9fIC08JvnU P.S. Ignore the matchmaking conspiracy theorists, they are like the Jehovah's witnesses of League.
Ok I see, thanks for the tips! I will take them into consideration and also try to adapt to the game I'm playing currently. But yeah I feel like Yorick can easily 1v2 if slightly ahead (with ult ofc).
: depends on the game, sometimes its worth the risk. That's when your team is able to use the fact that you are buying time and might die ^^ gl in your games
Desastrus (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Socloseagain,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=G2VPALZR,comment-id=00080001,timestamp=2017-04-10T13:42:16.631+0000) > > Oh and also I`ll try to get some replays rolling in my op.gg so u can check whenever u are free and want to. I`ll probably PM u extra when I do. Sure. If it's top lane, I can certainly give some comments.
I did press the record button in op.gg on few of my last games.. but it doesn't show up o,o no idea why. Btw can u give me some tips on yorick? I played 1 game against a nasus and i kind of dominated him and got 2 turrets, helped shut down enemy adc he was way ahead but somehow i threw the lead :S
: that would require your team to play around you :p and yeh, it can happen. But oh well there's not much you can do about it except: if you don't see at least 4 enemies on the minimap, play super safe and give up unsafe cs :(
Ok I will back the hell out next time all enemies are missing, becouse it might mean they're all coming to get me :D.
: Its no the point of it being aware, it just not strong enough like its very limited to ganking. Also with so much champs have some sort of dash, its very easy just run out the ult. In 1vs1 you can't even us it. Also panths passive is not has good as it used to be.
Ok I see. But what do u mean about the passive? I don't think it has been changed no?
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: the good part about this is, you could watch lcs games and, here's the important bit: pay attention to the casters and what they are saying usually they are giving useful advice and i recommend eu games over na games, just because krepo and deficio are giving better advises and have more game knowledge than some na casters which make some huge mistakes every now and then >.< and might not even correct themselves afterwards. As for builds, power spikes, match-ups. IF you do not play a lcs champion, then, your best bet is to spam it in normals and push to the limit in every game :) just a little while ago i had a game where i was a 1/11 fiora hahaha, and our jungler was "proud" he had a lot of farm and impact. But he was rarely with the team, and the 2 inferno drakes that we got, were almost soloed by me haha. At least he got gold from taking my farm and was happy he "carried". Sometimes you need to adapt and play around your team mates. Someone is mostly solo farming all game long? focus on dragons and small fights around the map. Ofc, the rest of your team has to do something, and usually they will gladly help if they are nearby. And that's playing around your team ^^
Yeah that's a nice advice will def take it into a consideration, but about the playing around my team, sometimes I would get 3 manned top and team can't take drake or turret for example and it just feels bad :D
: Think of climbing in league as a marathon and not a sprint Play consistently well and play to IMPROVE AND LEARN, DO NOT FOCUS ON WINNING EVERY GAME, it will just tilt you.
That's a cool way to think of it, will do thanks!
: relax, chill, if you don't have a split pusher. Playing around and with your team, you can't 1v9. strong splitpushers: {{champion:23}} {{champion:24}} {{champion:245}} {{champion:150}} {{champion:48}} {{champion:114}} If you can't play that, you have to play around you team. Which means, its useless if you are 50/0 if you die or get picked or have to defend 1v5. So, stay around yer team, push waves, collapse, have team fights, peal, kite, etc your issue doesn't sound like "i don't know how to play the lane". your issue seems to be "i don't know what i should do after the lane phase is over" and "i don't know how to close up games". if you'd search for my scores. You'd see that even in previous seasons, my KDA is mediocre. But I knew how to deal with games post laning phase (while usually not getting slaughtered in lane), which won me more games than losing em. And what should you do after the laning phase is over depends on: your champion, the enemy champions, your team's champions, current score like, current objectives available, current vision, current build path you took, current build path your teammates took, current buildpath the enemy took, and your summoner spells
Yeah that's absolutely true, I do feel the way u described my issue, I'm not always sure what to do after the laning phase is over. :S
Blazet25 (EUW)
: This also happens to me often, the best thing to do in a situation like this would be to simply Duo queue with another friend of yours that is really good. And not on the same lane, if you duo queue mid and top, or mid and jungle, or top and jungle, or any combination except sup and adc, it greatly increases your chances of winning a match. If you solo queue, is basically rolling a 12 sided dice, and you will only win if you get 4 our below. Playing with another person (especially talking to them in game) will double your chances from getting 4 or below, to 8 or below. The second best thing to do is help your team, first, you win your lane, then look at the matchups in your team, if you think your top laner can carry late game if he's fed than your adc, then gank him, help him win his lane. your chances of winning a match grows dramatically if you help your laner if you know he will have a big impact late game. As for lanes that are feeding, don't trouble yourself, cause worse case scenario, you will be killed by their fed laner.
Hmm ok solid advice but the thing is when I duoQ with some friends, somehow we get matched against better opponents, no idea how that happens, but it just does, every time :D
: Eh, I know it sounds kinda dumb at first, but just chill out. Take a break for a day or two, play some other games in the meantime. Or if you are an addict like me and don't play anything but League, go into other modes, like Flex, normal draft or even ARAM. It will help you unwind and enjoy yourself a bit more (maybe play champions you never played before of haven't played in months or even years). Then when you feel refreshed and untilted, head back into SoloQ. You've beaten this elo before, and you'll do it again. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-catface}} Good luck on the Rift!
Oh that's very encouraging words there! Thanks alot! But the thing is all I want to play is soloQ, haha, in other modes it just doesn't feel as competitive enough :D But yeah I should definitely chill out a bit more :p
: Bro is the same, i hit plat 2 last season carry, as panth top. This season i can't even get out gold 1, I've played about 200+ games and i haven't even hit promo's once. This season has just been trash, if i'd started plat 5 instead of gold 1, i would of filtered all the silver players but that didn't happen and i am stuck in trash hell.
Dude that's absolutely brutal :S. Just feels like people are way more aware of panth's ult than last season.
Enjutsu (EUNE)
: i don't know, it's your champion, it's for you to figure out. Try looking up replays of best pantheon mains.
Desastrus (EUNE)
: The streak may be a combination of your own misplays and bad luck (or it may even mostly be bad luck), but if I were you I would be more worried about the fact that even before the losing streak you were at ~100 wins in 200 games, which strongly suggests that you belong around this elo right now. As a former D5, I doubt that you should be happy with that. I would also like to point out that you are right about these high elo players that "fly through ranks". I've seen plenty material on that. Even they tend to have short losing streaks sometimes, but in general they manage to consistently maintain a win rate of ~60-65% and get to Diamond in no more than 150 games on a fresh account. So far you have not been able to do that - quite far from it. And that is what I would call the real problem here. As for your match history, it is simply not enough to make any judgement. One would have to check on the replays as well to actually help you improve and identify the cause of the losses. The problem with general tips like "help your team if they are losing" is that even that stuff is game-relative. Sometimes the better idea is to focus on yourself even if your team is losing, depending on a number of factors. So what would actually be useful is not to follow a general tip, but try to identify when and why this general tip works. If you still want some advice based only on your match history, the obvious thing to point out is your usage of trinkets. I can only see the yellow one, but you kinda need to choose depending on how the game is playing out and what trinkets your team already has. I can also see a game where you had both an upgraded sightstone and yellow trinket as a support. That is not good. But that is really all I can say after a glimpse at your match history - match history isn't much. Now let me relate to my own experience, maybe you will find that helpful. As the season began, I started planning what I was gonna do in League in s7. And my plan was to play flex (mostly solo, sometimes duo) around the beginning of the season, solo queue around the end of the season and get Diamond in both. I also really liked Yorick, but I had no experience with him, so I thought I might just play flex with him in order to learn him in a more competitive environment than normals. So, I was mostly playing Yorick in flex. I got initially placed in Silver 2. Then I climbed to S1 and G5. Then I started skipping Divisions. I moved from G5 to G3, from G3 to G1, and ultimately from P5 to P3 and from P3 to P1. All that in around 100 games. Then I lost 10 games out of 12 and got demoted to P2. Then I had problems in P2 - for some reason I was getting errors way too often and right after the unfortunate losing streak my team had to remake because of me once, and then in the following game I connected too late and pretty much lost the game by not being able to catch up with the snowbally champ the enemies had. So I got pushed back pretty hard. Since I felt kinda unimpactful as Yorick in these games (and I kinda learned him properly anyway), I decided to switch to Singed - a champion that I actually KNOW how to play and my absolute main. I won then 8 games out of 10, mostly as Singed, which led to me getting back to P1 and even obtaining 74 lp there. So based on this experience, my advice is the following - if you want something more simple than actually trying to improve your game knowledge by studying some League coaches or w/e, try to remember what worked for you before and try to reproduce it. You've had plenty of games on Pantheon, whereas in your losing streak you have no games on him. If he's not in a worse spot right now, maybe switching back to him would work? Otherwise, you can try and learn some other champion (the way I did with Yorick) and then bring them to ranked once you are confident enough, so you have a larger pool of champions that you are really good with. Anyway, that's about as much as I can come up with.
Oh and also I`ll try to get some replays rolling in my op.gg so u can check whenever u are free and want to. I`ll probably PM u extra when I do.
Enjutsu (EUNE)
: It could be not the season, but simply because you're at higher elo where this doesnt work as well. While improving it can be dangerous to get into a routine or only some specific tactic. I mentioned: > [{quoted}](name=Enjutsu,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=G2VPALZR,comment-id=000900000000,timestamp=2017-04-10T12:03:41.671+0000) > I should get used to more autoattacking enemy and get some damage from enemy before activating my W for the damage/heal. the reason behind it because my ussual tactic was to walk up to enemy W and just walk away, but as i got higher it became less effective, later on i added autoattacking after i used W for some extra damage. And well i intend to improve it further. Mind you that pantheon according to champion.gg in top is doing really well: [2nd highest winrate](http://champion.gg/statistics/#?sortBy=general.winPercent&order=descend&roleSort=Top) there is something you're not seeing about pantheon that others do.
Hmm but what could that thing that I dont see be? ;o is it runes/masteries? build path? hmm
WHACK (EUW)
: Or rather, play the game that way, regardless of pick. It gets pretty basic to know where their jungler is going to be, what lanes lost CDs, which players are worth helping out and where free kills/turrets are in general
But what if I get camped and my team can't take anything out of it, like a drake or turret? How do I know what lanes lose cd, unless a teammate told me so?hmm ;o
Enjutsu (EUNE)
: I main nami so: There is this trick that allows to safely harass enemy under theyr turret, i just need to time it correctly the moment it lights up. Should probably use the practice tool for that. I should get used to more autoattacking enemy and get some damage from enemy before activating my W for the damage/heal. Need to find a way to hit bubble more consistently, in higher elo it gets harder. (this is something that i ALWAYS need to work on , can't make any blind Qs, evry single one has to be made with a reason behind it) Planning on improving my map awerness sometime in the future even further and this time more correctly, last time i hyper-focused on it had some negative after effects later on. Overall i do think my mapawerness is pretty strong, but i have to strengthen it further, those roaming midlaners were geting annoyng.
Nice that's pretty cool! Hope u can achieve ur goals m8!
WHACK (EUW)
: Game ain't like it used to be, you can't carry your team just from mid lane if they're too incompetent to even get carried. In low/mid elo, you need to pick champions that can stomp all lanes at once, make opponents tilt and flame eachother, while you get big. That's how you carry games past 2 or 3 seasons.
Hmm, what champions are that kind of?
Desastrus (EUNE)
: The streak may be a combination of your own misplays and bad luck (or it may even mostly be bad luck), but if I were you I would be more worried about the fact that even before the losing streak you were at ~100 wins in 200 games, which strongly suggests that you belong around this elo right now. As a former D5, I doubt that you should be happy with that. I would also like to point out that you are right about these high elo players that "fly through ranks". I've seen plenty material on that. Even they tend to have short losing streaks sometimes, but in general they manage to consistently maintain a win rate of ~60-65% and get to Diamond in no more than 150 games on a fresh account. So far you have not been able to do that - quite far from it. And that is what I would call the real problem here. As for your match history, it is simply not enough to make any judgement. One would have to check on the replays as well to actually help you improve and identify the cause of the losses. The problem with general tips like "help your team if they are losing" is that even that stuff is game-relative. Sometimes the better idea is to focus on yourself even if your team is losing, depending on a number of factors. So what would actually be useful is not to follow a general tip, but try to identify when and why this general tip works. If you still want some advice based only on your match history, the obvious thing to point out is your usage of trinkets. I can only see the yellow one, but you kinda need to choose depending on how the game is playing out and what trinkets your team already has. I can also see a game where you had both an upgraded sightstone and yellow trinket as a support. That is not good. But that is really all I can say after a glimpse at your match history - match history isn't much. Now let me relate to my own experience, maybe you will find that helpful. As the season began, I started planning what I was gonna do in League in s7. And my plan was to play flex (mostly solo, sometimes duo) around the beginning of the season, solo queue around the end of the season and get Diamond in both. I also really liked Yorick, but I had no experience with him, so I thought I might just play flex with him in order to learn him in a more competitive environment than normals. So, I was mostly playing Yorick in flex. I got initially placed in Silver 2. Then I climbed to S1 and G5. Then I started skipping Divisions. I moved from G5 to G3, from G3 to G1, and ultimately from P5 to P3 and from P3 to P1. All that in around 100 games. Then I lost 10 games out of 12 and got demoted to P2. Then I had problems in P2 - for some reason I was getting errors way too often and right after the unfortunate losing streak my team had to remake because of me once, and then in the following game I connected too late and pretty much lost the game by not being able to catch up with the snowbally champ the enemies had. So I got pushed back pretty hard. Since I felt kinda unimpactful as Yorick in these games (and I kinda learned him properly anyway), I decided to switch to Singed - a champion that I actually KNOW how to play and my absolute main. I won then 8 games out of 10, mostly as Singed, which led to me getting back to P1 and even obtaining 74 lp there. So based on this experience, my advice is the following - if you want something more simple than actually trying to improve your game knowledge by studying some League coaches or w/e, try to remember what worked for you before and try to reproduce it. You've had plenty of games on Pantheon, whereas in your losing streak you have no games on him. If he's not in a worse spot right now, maybe switching back to him would work? Otherwise, you can try and learn some other champion (the way I did with Yorick) and then bring them to ranked once you are confident enough, so you have a larger pool of champions that you are really good with. Anyway, that's about as much as I can come up with.
Well thank u for ur feedback first! What worked for me in the past season was pantheon, try to kill my lane and get 6 and use my ult on bot or mid depending, but I feel like this season people are more cautious than ever!! They always go back as soon as they see me and I end up wasting time most of the time I try to roam :S. As far as other champion go it's not easy finding a champ that suits you :P
Enjutsu (EUNE)
: What it means to improve is very hard to grasp and to do. I think the most basic thing about it would be to find what you need to improve upon and to do that after evry game or play you need to think what went wrong and what you should've done differently. If it's hard to find what to improve upon your next source could be your enemy, what did enemy do to beat you? Primarily, what did enemy in the same role do. Another way to improve could be hyper focusing on some specific skill during the game while doing the rest on autopilot. Never or at least almost never be content with your performance, be critical of your evry mistake or missed skillshot. I think i did get a good grasp on this improving thing and started doing it more conciously, but once i did it just made me realise how damn hard ranked really is, geting better at one specific thing at best bought me only half a division. I don't think i improve as fast as i climb. Also my wrist problem started acting up so had to stop playing(for a month now), for now it got much better, but still hasnt dispeared. Im still playing a bit to not get rusty and already have an idea what im gonna work on(improve) next once my wrist is back to normal.
That's awesome to hear! What are u planning on improving on?
Nolex (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Socloseagain,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=G2VPALZR,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2017-04-10T05:53:24.733+0000) > > As much as I would love to agree with u, I have to take into a consideration the fact that there are high elo players that somehow fly through these ranks that we are currently and it just keeps me thinking.. :D I can see your diamond badge on forum profile, isnt that acually high elo :)))? If u cant climb its something wrong i guess
Yeah I used to be diamond, obviously D5 only, but I got there last season by carrying myself with pantheon. Now when I play him people are ALOT more cautious for my ulti, back in the days they didn't realy care that much tbh. :\
Redfield (EUW)
: Just go down!! I was plat 5 promo with 2/5 wins..now im gold 5 with 0 lps and im getting now trash silver teams. Cant win at all.... if i win lane,everyone else will lose with like 0/12 or just always rush 1vs5 and lose everything.
Dude that's absolutely brutal.. the way it's going I will soon join u in gold5.. :D
Nolex (EUNE)
: Its not your foult, garbage matchmaking and autofill system are making this season magical. best season by far
As much as I would love to agree with u, I have to take into a consideration the fact that there are high elo players that somehow fly through these ranks that we are currently and it just keeps me thinking.. :D
Four Star (EUW)
: The best thing to do is pick a jungler that has good team fight and gank potential (Gragas) Are you getting small objectives? Get vision for your team Create pressure in your lanes Steal camps Also admit to yourself not every game is winable, ive had like 12 straight losses in a row before, just take a few days off lesuge when you find yourself getting angry. Also number one thing, never flame in game, if you do this you are tilting your team, which makes them hate you and not trust you. So dude, take a break, dont even play aram or normals, play another game for a few days? Then return
Ok thanks for the tips, so from all the comments the thing I was least doing is pushing, for example next time when I play panth top and roam bot and we get some kills, I will stay to get the turret if possible aswell. Becouse normally what I do is, we kill them bot but I immediately try to get back top.
: Maybe try and coordinate your team more say like "Kindred, Zed and Brand push me and Sion defend" usually this works for me and try not to flame (If you are) because it really really demoralises your team.
So sometimes pushing is more beneficial than getting a kill for example? Ok will try that more.
SeekerK (EUNE)
: First of, if you see that your allies are losing, then start roaming and helping them. If you start losing on the lane because of the heavy pressure, play safe and keep vision around you, think ahead where the sneaky ganker might come. Every recall you do, buy a control ward to your bag, when you move around your map, set up the control ward to keep an eye on yourself and on your allies. As a mid laner, buy the blue trinket as soon as possible, it has a better cooldown. Secondly, ping about your actions to your enemies, warn them if someone is coming or if your lane is missing, saying "ss" often just isn't enough. If your enemy roams, just follow up. Use pings to talk to your allies and sometimes type something too. In a losing state, writing something in the game can be stressful to your allies. Thirdly, if you're in a losing state, choose tp whenever you play in mid or top, it allows you to scare your enemies off from your losing allies. And remamber, never blame your allies for the bad luck their having, even if their making mistakes. The moment you start using negative verbal behaviour, the game is almost lost.
I usually do try and help them by roaming on lvl 6 with Pantheon, but there are times that by the time i ult bot or mid, my dudes are already dead :S Also there have been times where I've pinged the maximum amount of pings I can do, plus saying SS, and the opposing laner still manages to kill either top or bot :S ( speaking about a situation where I had too much creeps at my turret or I was simply at base ).
: Are you focusing more on kills or pushing? Usually that's the trap I fall into.
Well on both, when the oppurtunity presents itself, but for example my last game on WW, i was 7/1 in the start, we had first turret, i secured the first 2 infernal drakes but somehow we just kept falling behind, we had some turrets but they obviously had more.. just dunno what to do :s
: plz help me out // losing streak... how to improve?
Yeah downvote a guy that wants to improve.. good shit
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Rich (EUW)
: Looking for party members for this weekend's IP event? Look no further!
does this program require u to have microphone to use it? if not, i'd be happy to join 5 party premades :P
: Galio y u have no gargoyle face???
I hope I'll be able to refund my Gatekeeper Galio cuz this is just an abomination. Awful particles and vfx overall.
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: Current state of low elo games is horrible...
http://imgur.com/a/SCnyq Here mate, a game in plat3 Not much of a difference {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
Smerk (EUW)
: You're doing it wrong, that is how you summon Teemo: https://i.gyazo.com/8f5af4640fcbb9dd96eac03541ce58dc.jpg
MØWHA (EUW)
: WHY NOT...
next lvl lazyness.. (✿ =‿‿=)
: I wish there was a chance to mute someone's pings :).
http://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/champions-gameplay-en/kcnVj3wb-we-need-this-in-league
AweSatura (EUW)
: I dont think it's an option. As far as I know the legacy client will be removed entirely later on.
AweSatura (EUW)
: Beta Client Suggestions & Complaints (Let us gather all suggestions in one place)
How can u perma-revert the legacy client? Right now I have to revert it manually every time..
: WE NEED THIS IN LEAGUE!
> Legends say that if you get a red post in your thread it might become a reality someday.
Eveninn (EUW)
: For ranked, being a 'OTP' usually is best. (To be exact, a 1 Trick and 1 to fall back on, preferably a Counter to your 1 Trick as most of the time you don't get them, the enemy will have them. And the a bit for your off-role.) Learning new Champions takes much of your Attention, instead by being a one trick you can use thise attenton to learn things about the game in General, giving you a lot more game knowledge. - SOmeone who suffered a lot in solOQ due to extending their Champion pool.
Wait u use to be green in the borders :-S what happened ;(O
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