: Silver is tough as nails.
Whenever rank gets reset, I forsake my main roles while climbing back to my main elo and I do so for a good reason. You can't play botlane in silver elo if you want to win. You have to play a hard carry that can rack up kills and two shot people. Try playing something like Vi jungle, she's easy and insanely strong, just have to learn flash q.
: The reasoning for the losses doesn't have anything to do with team comp etc. It's simply because the team mates just die over and over. I can get them ahead in lane but the game is usually lost by about 15 minutes and because of this stupid meta I can not counter itemise. I'll get all 3 lanes ahead and more than likely they'll feed regardless of the enemy junglers influence. I've tried many tactics like camping lanes and it rarely works because one or two lanes will feed too much to compensate for. It genuinely feels like I get bronze laners, they just have to fight every time they're in lane without any regard for vision, minion damage, cs and turret aggro.
> [{quoted}](name=Wayne Pooneyy,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=ArAcvAHV,comment-id=00030000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-01-10T15:32:00.575+0000) > > The reasoning for the losses doesn't have anything to do with team comp etc. It's simply because the team mates just die over and over. I can get them ahead in lane but the game is usually lost by about 15 minutes and because of this stupid meta I can not counter itemise. I'll get all 3 lanes ahead and more than likely they'll feed regardless of the enemy junglers influence. I've tried many tactics like camping lanes and it rarely works because one or two lanes will feed too much to compensate for. > > It genuinely feels like I get bronze laners, they just have to fight every time they're in lane without any regard for vision, minion damage, cs and turret aggro. yeah I feel you, you'd think people would know how not to die by this elo but nope. It sucks, if I can give a tip it'd be, definitely stop playing supp because the role just sucks in general, and perhaps try junglers that are more mobility/utility oriented, like sejuani, to try and get your laners ahead. It'd be interesting to see how that would work, as opposed to playing carry junglers like kha and taking all kills. Also try helping them by warding for them and obviously preparing counter ganks for over extending teammates.
: It's since Plat V, since that I've probably only won about 30% if that. Perhaps I am the one to blame, maybe I am bad. But if I'm consistently performing well in terms of KDA and if were to assess my games I have played well (i'm not a KDA warrior is what I'm saying). The thing I can't understand is that I get these teams that get stomped too regularly. I have friends in the same elo as myself who perform badly on a regular basis but when I look at their games they have people who are just ripping the enemies and he's getting carried incredibly hard. It's literally the opposite to what I go through.
> [{quoted}](name=Wayne Pooneyy,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=ArAcvAHV,comment-id=000300000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-01-10T14:17:23.638+0000) > > It's since Plat V, since that I've probably only won about 30% if that. Perhaps I am the one to blame, maybe I am bad. But if I'm consistently performing well in terms of KDA and if were to assess my games I have played well (i'm not a KDA warrior is what I'm saying). The thing I can't understand is that I get these teams that get stomped too regularly. > > I have friends in the same elo as myself who perform badly on a regular basis but when I look at their games they have people who are just ripping the enemies and he's getting carried incredibly hard. It's literally the opposite to what I go through. I'm about mid plat right now and I tend to do decently well. There are some games I carry some I get carried etc. I did however notice a certain pattern. You see, whenever I play j4 in the jungle, I always get a good k/d/a. I'm not talking just good, I'm talking an average kda of 16/3/14 after 6 matches. Out of those 6, I only won one. I stopped playing him after that. That made me think: What if a good kda doesnt make me a good player, and my way of playing jarvan simply sucks for my team somehow?
Enjutsu (EUNE)
: Ye and they're all busy. The class update team is now working on tanks.
yeah they have been for the past 2 years
Enjutsu (EUNE)
: Well they stil have to resolve the support problem. They're also have theyr hands full with the new client. One thing at a time people, one thing at a time.
You know they have departments in there? The balance team isn't concerned about what the client devs do at all.
xilien (EUW)
: Depressed ADC Mains thread
I am 100% convinced riot hates adc's and wants them gone. Flashy jump in burst tank get out seems to be the playstyle they like and adcs dont fit that. I had to commit "role-sudoku" and became a top/jungler. RIP my most fun role. I remember people calling me delusional for saying adc's have become weaker and will continue to go down.
efol00 (EUNE)
: I think that players understand their champion more than the game. I see too many fed people diving into 1 vs 5 and complaining how his team sucks. The term "Game sense" has far left League of Legends.
This always cracks me up. Some dude gets caught then starts ranting abouw how he has no team. Nevermind that I'm 7/13/4 you all just suck.
: At what level do the players understand the game?
I'm at plat 2 and people still don't understand the concept of not dying 7 times back to back and then blame the jungler for trying to help the other, not useless lanes.
Not xPeke (EUW)
: A small Yasuo change that might help a little.
I got an even better idea let's just delete him
: Brand Q usually fails to hit
I don't think it matters that much, you never need to hit it anyway. You just click r and kill everyone.
11wildy (EUW)
: Just a bot that gives no gold would be great, then it cannot be abused by the opponent.
> [{quoted}](name=11wildy,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=inJHmOyj,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2017-01-02T21:39:03.038+0000) > > Just a bot that gives no gold would be great, then it cannot be abused by the opponent. that's so terrible I shouldn't even have to explain why
: Why aren't 3/2 votes enough? question not complaint!
rather why don't people surrender obviously lost matches. I have people that don't surrender while they're at our nexus. that's just trolling to be honest.
: Again. How to get out of bronz
1. Get LAN internet 2. Get a decent computer congrats you should be silver by now how to get out of silver (in my experience smurfing) 1. Don't rely on teamwork all the way until platinum, it simply doesn't happen down there 2. Pick high winrate solo carry champions 3. Pick people off until you're unstoppable voila welcome to plat
: Are we just ignoring these broken champions?
Rengar is only OP if a great performing not boosted teammate fed him early, so like 9/10 times. Otherwise he's kinda worthless tbh. LeBlanc is pretty difficult to play properly. Shaco is annoying at most. The rest needs to be nerfed yeah. Don't forget to include vi aswell.
Rioter Comments
: New Year RP Give Away... Post in thread to stand a chance to win
inb4 pure cohencidence makes three females win the random giveaway
: Veigar the dumbest champ
this is season 7. everyone one shots everyone. get used to the new league I suppose
blick11 (EUW)
: Returning to league want to know the meta
all you need to know is that adc doesn't exist anymore play literally anything but adc
: The jungle changes during season 5 or 6 i think sets him really behind too.Even if he didn't got a pure nerf the jungle changes had a huge impact on his win rate i think. I am not saying that lee sin is balanced but the idea behind his nerf is wrong.(his "toxic" high mobility early game will keep going and his terrible late will become even worse).
are you shitting me? lee sin is one of the few champs that leaves with full health after barely receiving a pull on the first camp. I suppose the 30 health nerf on smite will change that, but that applies to all other champs aswell so my point still stands
: 1. You getting triggered by the Summoner emote does not suddenly mean it's something that's against being humble, Humble and a perfection complex are two different things. 2. Nothing more than a salty attempt at attacking riot 3. Those people are being banned.
stating what is pretty much a fact of riot refusing to nerf their favorite champions is a salty attempt at attacking riot? on a completely unrelated note what is your elo?
Cryptidian (EUNE)
: I like the game, but these things I really hate...
Tanks with a full tank build and mobility of an assassin dealing most damage at the end of every game.
gyxari (EUW)
: "pls kill ur self"
if youre going to kill yourself because a meanie cyber bully told you to, you probably should have done it much sooner.
Rioter Comments
Rïvëñ (EUW)
: Random Ping Spikes! Please Help!
: riot has to take actions for ranked
funny is you have almost the same amount of deaths
lars22998 (EUW)
: riot please nerf every champion
really I kidna see the opposite tbh. Its a tank meta. like its literally a meta build for katarina to go sunfire cape.
: Rito i hate u :(
all adc's are dead, not just lucian. twitch and vayne are the only ones viable, and the funny thing is that they don't even play as a typical adc, they play as an ad burster.
Nikkibenz (EUW)
: ive been chat restricted a week ago for flaming a feeder for 1 minute, thats all i got after starting playing lol again 2-3 weeks ago. since then, i didnt do any harm whatsoever, not even during my 8 game losing streak, i didnt flame, didnt go afk or sorta, i just kept playing. and the game 10 minutes ago was just the final trigger for me, i just called shaco retarded for feeding, dying on purpose to red buffs and excusing his actions with "i thought this was normals lol" and get a 14 day suspension mid championpick. nice system riot established here
Funny, I also tend to flame the sht out of feeders yet I have never gotten as much as a warning on any of my accounts.
: Free win when u re-enter promos?
you dont get it above gold elo
Koli4 (EUNE)
: where balance ?
you hheard riot balanse sistem
robsco26 (EUW)
: Bullied into dodging.
CYBER BULLIES STRIKE AGAIN WOULDNT HAVE HAPPENED IF HILLARY WAS ELECTED
: _!_
same
Skully (EUW)
: Why I think League is slowly going downhill for a long time now...
Tanks Tanks Tanks Tanks Tanks Tanks Tanks Tanks I'm fucking tired of seeing full armor and health champions like zac and poppy deal most dmg at the end of a match. As an ADC main I simply feel fucking useless. Why would I bother playing this mechanically most difficult role well when I could just go full retard mode, pick up a juggernaut, load the CoC and deal more dmg by having a stroke on top of my keyboard? And fuck this mid lane health meta where every midlane can kill the squishy in less than a second but has 2.5k+ health.
Encrux (EUW)
: ~~If I'm interpreting this correctly, you can only get the icons with the more expensive version~~ ~~https://i.gyazo.com/a056fc09d8fe71c038e179142a698912.png~~ ~~https://i.gyazo.com/9f0bb5d2f0fea23b644a559e969ec96c.png~~ EDIT: that's the correct answer https://i.gyazo.com/312f12c4894511972864015ec234245d.png https://i.gyazo.com/a844e4e2775b9658de2aeecc2b37e545.png
meanwhile in Riot Headquarters, tel Aviv, Israel
BexXz (EUW)
: not to forget it mostly happens in promos.. win win win win win win PROMOS! defeat defeat.. and maybe it is because that if they wouldnt rig it, the top 0.1% of players would get an influx of 1000% and so the pro scene would change a lot.. maybe not in a good way.
yeah promos are a different story, they obviously have a different matchmaking mechanism and god knows how that works. but honestly, I have trouble getting out of plat 1 on my main but anything below I can crush on my smurf, even lower plat is easy peasy. Your individual skill matters a lot.
Razeshy (EUW)
: AFKs in Ranked
Sounds like an amazing suggestion. I think we should compress it into a simple to type command which we could call "remake". So if someone in your team happens to be AFK, you'd just type /remake and everyone would get loss prevented except for the afker. Why haven't we done something like this yet riot?
: Rito tribunal peoples. Do me a favor and have a chat with this young man. Convince him to reform.
"let me add this toxic ass dude from last match to my friendslist and keep talking to him after he wishes cancer to my mother just in case" I swear to god people like you are as dumb as the flamers are.
BexXz (EUW)
: Though it really feels planned a lot of the times. games are over before it even started like he said.. like your top laner dying 0/3 in 6 minutes, you mid doing the same and so forth..
ofcourse I can't confirm for 100% they haven't rigged anything, but it would make no sense for them to have done so. true RNG tends to feel planned very often there's a chance one of your laners will feed, and you can be very unfortunate and have something with a 25% chance of happening, happen to you 5 times in a row. Shit just happens.
: Match making in a nuthsell..
be above your elo > win a lot > get placed against better opponents > can't win anymore because they're too good for you that's really all there is to rankeds
: Which option would you choose on EUW?
autofill needs to go I don't want to play with a player who doesnt want to or cant play support nor do I want to lose 3 lp each time Im put into support hehe
bigambrus (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Someone16,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=EPWER1sz,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-11-26T17:31:53.620+0000) > > can I have whatever you've snorted that makes you think adc's need a nerf right now it must be really fucking strong stuff. Didn't really expect anything else from an adc main btw.
Didn't expect anything else from an EUNE
bigambrus (EUNE)
: Adc lategame and warlord's bloodlust overtuned ??
can I have whatever you've snorted that makes you think adc's need a nerf right now it must be really fucking strong stuff.
: Vayne Mains
because adc is a difficult role and vayne is not one of the easier adcs.
Antenora (EUW)
: You can report supports who do that. Leaving an ADC to 1v2 in the bot lane for an extended amount of time is actually bannable. Roaming as a support is fine but there's a difference between roaming and abandoning your AD Carry. If I play Support and I want to roam to make a play, I tell my ADC "I'm going to roam mid, farm safe and don't push past wards." I had a support like that a few weeks ago, I played {{champion:222}} and my support was {{champion:143}}. Only difference was this support was playing like a mid laner and offered no real support to anyone during the game. Mid-game I was 1/1/8 and my support was like 8/3/1. I reported the Zyra and I got the notification about 30 minutes later that a player I recently reported was punished.
damn that's actually good to know, while it makes me happy to know you can report players for this it doesn't really solve the issue though.
: Ranked Solo/Duo Wrong people in the game
because it's preseason. give it some time
: yeah remove crits, and it will be league of tanks, matches lasting for hour or more
as if crits even do anything against tanks with stacked armor. obviously there'd be compensation for the remaining extra damage that crit dealt against tanks though. Think items like BOTRK that aren't based on gambling.
Rioter Comments
: Vayne nerfs aren't addressing her acutal problems..
how about this: remove crit strikes if I wanted to gamble I'd go play hearthstone
: TylerT1 and the Singed support ban...how certain members of the Community defend toxicity.
Care so much about tyler1 but don't even realise his name isn't tylerT1. also OP reeks of fishing for brownie points, this isn't reddit in case you got the wrong address.
: > [{quoted}](name=Someone16,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=WlKVhjaL,comment-id=00000001000000010000,timestamp=2016-11-13T11:33:03.986+0000) > > But that's how this season and last season and season 3 has worked. I think only season 5 has been a bit of an exception tbh. > Fed people kill you quickly. A fed assassin out of all things, will always kill you. Your problem doesn't seem to be assassins but snowballing in general. Go play snowball champions if they're so ridiculously op in bronze elo, it should be a free ticket out for you corect? Alas that is not what Riot is supposed to be working on ... for every play, Riot claims that there should exist a counterplay and lo and behold they seem to be violating their own standards of how league should be ... the whole assassin update was supposed to revolve around that idea and that is why Fizz was changed as he was, but not Rengar or Talon ... I personally do not mind burst snowballing AD champions - I play tanky supports with hard CC - but I can see that they are going to be a massive problem, in lower divisions where people have no idea what to do against them and teamwork happens once in ten games ... > If you suck at driving, then yes, as a matter of fact your concerns about driving safety is going to be taken less seriously or even angrily, as you are probably the one bringing in the danger for other people. oh really .?. I guess then that the automatic breaking systems and those bleeping parking indicators when you are in reverse gear where made for that guy .?. : https://youtu.be/q3BGkOKVMUU?t=29s **obviously not** ... all those systems where introduced for people that had difficulty to control the car or park properly ... sure, the guy in the video does NOT need them, but I also bet that he has no problem that those systems help the people that DO need them, instead of going around in fora and dissing people that can't park, like Bubbarain did :p > Everyone has the right to have their own views but not the right for it to be taken seriously by other people. That's up to them. That is a totally different thing indeed ... the veracity and the seriousness with which your opinion will be eventually be perceived is controlled by many diverse factors (writting skills, how well you analise your thought, your arguments and their validity etc etc etc )
> [{quoted}](name=Skouriasmenos,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=WlKVhjaL,comment-id=000000010000000100000000,timestamp=2016-11-13T11:42:45.296+0000) > > Alas that is not what Riot is supposed to be working on ... for every play, Riot claims that there should exist a counterplay and lo and behold they seem to be violating their own standards of how league should be ... the whole assassin update was supposed to revolve around that idea and that is why Fizz was changed as he was, but not Rengar or Talon ... And they did a damn decent job at it with the assassin update even though it's still the unrefined preseason. No more oneshotting rengar has to be the best thing that has happened to league in the last few patches > I personally do not mind burst snowballing AD champions - I play tanky supports with hard CC - but I can see that they are going to be a massive problem, in lower divisions where people have no idea what to do against them and teamwork happens once in ten games ... Don't pretend as if it isn't about you aswell, you're silver 3. > oh really .?. I guess then that the automatic breaking systems and those bleeping parking indicators when you are in reverse gear where made for that guy .?. : > **obviously not** ... all those systems where introduced for people that had difficulty to control the car or park properly ... sure, the guy in the video does NOT need them, but I also bet that he has no problem that those systems help the people that DO need them, instead of going around in fora and dissing people that can't park, like Bubbarain did :p I don't understand the relevance of this to league. Are you suggesting riot should add third weels to make low elo people higher elo for the sake of it? Or do you mean champions should be working differently in low elo and high elo? Do you realise why that is impossible?
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