DarkG0d (EUNE)
: >it's still just very very sad to see the amount of money that's lost, for just a few words if you know what I mean. that part. a few words did not get banned. a lot of words refusing to understand until it was too late got you banned.
well it's basically the same words all over again tbf... I never really bully someone but just say "%%%%", "shut up" and stuff like that a lot...
DarkG0d (EUNE)
: No I dont know what you mean. but glad to hear you reformed
Wait, what part isn't explained good enough for you sir?
: > [{quoted}](name=SouIsIayer,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=N0Q3swFf,comment-id=0002000000020000,timestamp=2017-05-01T16:47:46.849+0000) > > And aside that, I'll never lose hope to eventually retrieve it some day. Even if it takes years. :) > YOur hope is futile. Hoping for years to ultimatly realise its all for nothing.. You wont get the account back, dont fool yourself, you would only get disappointed.
I don't mind, my parents taught me one thing. Never give up hope. :) Jk, i'll probably be fine with this account after a while, but all of the lost money is just sad and pathetic, knowing it's only because of a few words... I didn't even script or anything like that. Oh well...
DarkG0d (EUNE)
: Hey man, I understand having stress and real life problems can be really heavy, but you got to understand that others are not forced to endure your cursing and flaming cause you feel stressed. you got to understand that bullying others over the internet is not something acceptable, as a member of the community I believe that you should make your new account and start being nice. its easy being a flamer. do something else for a change, Besides how are you playign the game you say YOU LOVE by typing and flaming? this permaban proves that you type more than playing, maybe change mindset?
To be honest, I don't really bully with my cursing or flaming.. All I always try to do is making sure they know their place. For example when someone is trying to pretend that he's a GOD and talks .... about other individuals, i'll try and make sure he stops it. But if i don't succeed using normal language, i'd start using some more harsh words such as 'fk' and stuff... I'm not really the worst or an actual bully or anything, totally not, it's just that I can't stand other people bullying and that's where my inner rage comes out. With this situation, that inner rage goes out pretty fast. Also, I already had a second account because back in the days I wanted to start over and make a clean account with a total new focus and stuff. Well, on that account, i'm now probably the nicest person in League so far :). I've definitely learned my lesson, it's still just very very sad to see the amount of money that's lost, for just a few words if you know what I mean.
: > [{quoted}](name=SouIsIayer,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=N0Q3swFf,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2017-04-29T19:52:09.502+0000) > > Last Chance Program would be helpful and lovely at this point really... > I do not understand that a 2 week ban gets followed by a perma ban. > It's too much to take and unfair at the same time. > > Everyone has their bad moments/days/stuff going on, i get that. > But the stuff that has been on my mind lately, has been too much. > You can't blame me for seeking an escape route in those emotionally hard situations (which was League at that point). > If they're reasonable, they should warn you at least once more for a longer period of time than only 2 weeks. This comment shows very well why you shouldn't be unbanned. About the "Lvl 20 Challenge"/Last Chance Programm" or whatever you want to call it. IT had a 95% failure rate, at a time where the report system was much slower to react. IT just isn't fair for every other player that have to play with you to be forced to endure you once again. YOu had multiple chances and blew them all, it's time to think about the otehr players. > > I do not understand that a 2 week ban gets followed by a perma ban. Because it is very clear, that you are either unwilling or unable to change. 10-Games Chat restriction, then 25, then 14 day ban. And you still don't manage to stop insulting your teammates. There is little to no chance that you change, you had multiple chances to simply not flame your teammates (that is really not to much to ask, dont you think?) and you blew them all. So, you ahd your chances, and past experience clearly shows you are very unlikly to react. The lvl 20 challenge clearly showed, that even a perma ban is no cause for such players to reform. So why would extending the ban to a month or more do so, if a perma ban failed? Allowing you to keep playing would be very unfair towards the rest of the players. Banning you after multiple chances however is very fair, especially since Riot really didn't have any huge demands. > Everyone has their bad moments/days/stuff going on, i get that. What you dont get is, that one bad day and a few curses dont get you permabanned. You need to have a lot of bad games to even get a CR in the first place, then you have to contiously ignore the punishments. Thats not one bad day, its not a few, its a lot of bad days. ITs your standart behaviour by then. > You can't blame me for seeking an escape route in those emotionally hard situations (which was League at that point). They can blame you for insulting their ustomer base and simply ignoring your warnings. League is not a place to unload your frustration, if you do that, you are definitl to blame. > If they're reasonable, they should warn you at least once more for a longer period of time than only 2 weeks. And why would they do that? They had more punishment tiers once, they had (basically) never ending CRs etc. It jsut doesn'T work, people that get so far just don't learn from temporary punishments or permanent restrictions. Perma mute jsut leads to people then trolling or griefing in anoterh way. It is unreasonable to let you play. You show pretty little undersstanding about your punishment at all. > The cursing, flaming etc., didn't happen without a reason. That is understandable, but it is not an excuse. Then you should pursue another hobby.
> Perma mute jsut leads to people then trolling or griefing in anoterh way. The thing is, when you're in a stage like I was/am, you don't really see those punishments/warnings clear enough. It's a normal and human reaction to 'ignore' them or 'forget' them after a small period of time. This aside, you're right that I should've seen it coming and changed earlier or didn't use League as an escape route at all. But the thing is, in those situations, good games were the ones that kept me going, made me happy again for a few minutes. And that's why you obviously keep on playing it. And why i quoted you on that is simply because I have never trolled, intentionally fed or anything before. For me it was all about typing, expressing my inner anger by typing. I've never ever had the intention to troll or something like that. The reason why I flamed/..., was simply because I didn't see the bad in that. It never really affected me in my gameplay so I was blind to see that it could affect other players. Anyways, I get it now, even tho it's too late, I'll reform and get better eventually. I'll just keep on playing on another account, being extremely friendly as I am in my normal habitat. And aside that, I'll never lose hope to eventually retrieve it some day. Even if it takes years. :) Thanks for the support and information.
: > [{quoted}](name=SouIsIayer,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=N0Q3swFf,comment-id=0002000000010000,timestamp=2017-04-30T07:59:07.481+0000) > > Simply because it's too much. > You already have a reason to behave like this and then this comes on top of it and ruins it even more. > Like i said, they may have told me that the next ban would be permanent but it's still 'unfair' in my point of view. > One more extra long-term-ban would be perfect. > They may think it has no effect but it does to a lot of players, especially to me. Yeah and then after than one another would be perfect. And another one. And another one....
See, even this makes me angry. Because you don't see it the way I do and are just here to act like a douche. Comments like these are totally unnecessary.
GLurch (EUW)
: They already gave you 2 chances. If they gave you another chance, you would have had just another chance for ruining games. Statistics Riot made clearly indicate every punishment after a 2 week ban are useless, because if someone doesn't reform after a 2 week ban, they normally never. Yes, there were one or two cases where people still reformed, but I don't think among thousands of people these one or two people actually matter that much. They can't revolve their system around these one or two, because it would give the other thousand players another chance to ruin games.
I stick with the stuff I already mentioned in other comments. The system isn't as it should be, simple. I can change, i know that. But the fact that 12 years old can't change yet because they're still growing up and experiencing other stuff, that's understandable. But that doesn't mean they should punish the mature ones around for a few words and some minor mistakes. I've played this game for 6 years now and the last year has indeed been really rough, but I do know I can change if only they gave me a long-term-ban.
: > [{quoted}](name=SouIsIayer,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=N0Q3swFf,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2017-04-29T19:52:09.502+0000) > > Last Chance Program would be helpful and lovely at this point really... > I do not understand that a 2 week ban gets followed by a perma ban. > It's too much to take and unfair at the same time. > > Everyone has their bad moments/days/stuff going on, i get that. > But the stuff that has been on my mind lately, has been too much. > You can't blame me for seeking an escape route in those emotionally hard situations (which was League at that point). > If they're reasonable, they should warn you at least once more for a longer period of time than only 2 weeks. how can you not understand it? it literally is written in the message of the 14 day ban that its the last chance.
Simply because it's too much. You already have a reason to behave like this and then this comes on top of it and ruins it even more. Like i said, they may have told me that the next ban would be permanent but it's still 'unfair' in my point of view. One more extra long-term-ban would be perfect. They may think it has no effect but it does to a lot of players, especially to me.
: The Last Chance program only was an experiment long time ago that failed. There is not chance of getting unbanned. I only used it as an explantion as to why Riot doens't unban. -------- I understand very well that you have a tough life and it can be hard to deal with it at some times. I really hope you can get things going as you want again. It still isn't a valid reason to justify your behaviour. When you get a 14 days ban, you are told that the next one will be permanent. You were basically playing with fire, by playing LoL while you knew you were in a sensitive mood. As you say, it is a big step between one temporary ban and a permanent ban. However, Riot found that adding more punishments in between doesn't help more people reform. Adding more bans only procrastinates the final sentence, without any advantages. ------- There's not much that can be done to get you unbanned. I wish you the best in your life and hope you can get things sorted out.
If this is the exact outcome like you are telling me right now, than that's going to be the saddest thing to have ever happened so far. I'm very, very upset at this point. Thanks for all of the information anyhow. Appreciate it.
: Greetings. I'm sorry to hear about your tough situation in real-life right now, I hope things will sort out for you and your sister, so you get rid of this stress very soon. And I understand that this situation is making it very easy to lose your temper, and say things you shouldn't. --- However, I _have_ to be the bearer of bad news here, and tell you that a justified punishment will not be reverted :/ While the reason for your mistake is clear, it sadly doesn't justify your behavior. Your behavior made the game less-enjoyable, that does not only affect the trolls or other people who break the rules, it also affected innocent bystanders. Many people have a very good reason they flame, maybe they are under extreme stress irl, or lost a loved one. The thing is, Riot can't reliably check if that's really true, and even if it was, the problem still exists: Players are flaming ingame. --- I'm afraid you are simply coming here a little too late, you most likely received punishments previously. Those should've made it clear that you _have_ to change your behavior. Now, I'm afraid it's simply too late for that. At the very least, I hope that you are able to stop raging after this experience. If you decide to start a new account from scratch... ** Good luck & Have fun!**
Hello Honestly, i've mentioned this a few times now. Even in my e-mails towards RIOT staff themselves. Receiving one warning, after that, one punishment which is a 2 weeks ban followed by an instant permanent ban is just too much. It's not that the 2 weeks ban didn't make me realize I was doing bad but as I told them, if they would give you one more temporary ban (6 months/a year) it would make me/you/anyone definitely realize that we're doing bad right? But at the same time, it would help us because we could be looking forward to retrieving our account back after that long period of time. So in that case, we have a goal to reach, and a longer time too cool off, sort things out and improve our behavior. You can't expect someone who's having all these emotionally hard things around him, to improve his behavior within 2 weeks. Therefor I still hope they'll realize that it's necessary to add one more extra temporary ban and give me one last chance.
: Good evening, No matter how bad your personal circumstances are, while they are a reason for misbehaviour, they don't justify misbehaviour in game. You probably understand that you shouldn't have used this game as an escape from your daily life. League is a very competitive game and there were probably better games that you could have used as an escape. ----------- I don't think you will ever be unbanned. A long time ago Riot did something thing called 'Last Chance Program'. Players who had been permanently banned had the chance to level up a new account without getting punished. If they didn't get punished, they would get their old account back. Nearly everyone failed. That's why Riot never unbans players who have been banned for toxicity.
Last Chance Program would be helpful and lovely at this point really... I do not understand that a 2 week ban gets followed by a perma ban. It's too much to take and unfair at the same time. Everyone has their bad moments/days/stuff going on, i get that. But the stuff that has been on my mind lately, has been too much. You can't blame me for seeking an escape route in those emotionally hard situations (which was League at that point). If they're reasonable, they should warn you at least once more for a longer period of time than only 2 weeks.
: Pathetic you get perm banned for words in a game which can be muted. Pc principals on this forums so don't expect any sympathy. Riot rather ban people for words for which there is a mute button instead of insta banning afking in the jungle versus blitzcrank teams who get first blood ;)
I do believe that toxicity makes you lose part of the game already. I totally understand that part but it's actually very sad that only words can get you banned whilst seeing people that, like you mentioned, afk 24/7 in every game, yet they're still playing. Also, like i mentioned before, they don't punish you enough for these sort of things. 2 weeks ban followed by a perma ban is just too much.
Ìxeas (EUW)
: Didn't read everything because I'm too lazy, but looks like you're truly sorry for whatever you have done. Too bad, if you'd get unbanned other people would start posting long emotional stuff like this hoping for the same.
I totally understand the fact that other people would start doing the same. Like I've been told already, they can't do it for the sake of the integrity of the game. Well, honestly, I'm so upset with this and will keep hoping for it to get unbanned because i do feel that we don't get 'punished' enough or warned enough before we get permanently banned. I had a two weeks ban before this perma ban. To be fair, that's not much, and to go from that, instantly to this perma ban, is a little too much for me to take. I totally agree that I shouldnt've stressed out on the game and started raging because of real world problems, but like I said, an extra and perhaps longer 'warning/ban' would've been enough. It would make me realize how bad I was doing but still be able to look forward to retrieving my account back (whilst being recovered from the emotional damage).
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