GLurch (EUW)
: It's unlikely that you'll get punished for once calling someone a noob, but regular bad behavior or exceptionally bad behavior *can* result in a punishment. So to answer your question, yes, you can get punished for it and if you are fully conscious of what you are doing, don't do it.
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: The Client is killing my PC
I thought that my new 1000$ computer was just bad. Good to know im not alone.
shatan7 (EUW)
: BALANCED TEAMS
400 mmr difference, but better focus on selling skins then improving the game
: Why isnt there a meme of this yet?
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Yraco (EUW)
: That's not what I'm saying at all, I took a day off the first time clash was around and completely get it but this is the 4th time clash has shown and then been cancelled. By now people should stop doing it because if it follows every other time then clash will fail.
Yraco (EUW)
: Honestly why would you cancel plans for clash? This is the 4th time they've brought it to EuW and failed, I can get if you cancelled things for the first time or maybe even the second thinking that first failure was a one-off but at this point it's just not a good enough chance that it will even happen to bother stopping your life for.
Who the %%%% are you to think you know what other people prioritize in their life? Maybe a day off work to have a fun competitive time gaming with friends is worth it, and maybe for some people it is not. Not everyone has the same taste
: What just happened? (worlds day 1 spoilers inside)
Why did you write "EU>NA"? This has become a bit obvious now, no need to keep comparing the two regions, EU is is just too far superior, if we keep comparing, NA fans will keep thinking that they are on our level.
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SonicAF (EUW)
: It's very difficult to implement properly without %%%%ing everything up. If the bot plays better than the players in a match, leaving the game may become beneficial for the team(we do not want that). If it doesn't, it's gonna just feed gold.
Excactly it is too difficult, but it would eliminate some of the unfairness that afk gives to the victim team. It should be in between feeding and carrying and also a new bot with different skill and inteligence would be probably have to be built for each league, or maybe perhaps from bronze to plat(since I think higher elos suffer less from ragequits). However this is just a fantasy that I thought about. An easier solution would be to make harsher penalties to ragequitters not a stupid 20 min wait while they go take a snack or watch a movie.(of course to obvious ragquitters rather then some people who have to leave the match because of an emergency/crashes.)
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Violationer (EUNE)
: Odyssey Onslaught Missions: adressing genesis problem mumbo-jumbo
This could have still been avoided in many ways, one of them is make the premade missions but also make another mission not for premades(You only get to choose one) like the path of the darius and garen missions
: > [{quoted}](name=Ekkogod17,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=BdcQy3Ad,comment-id=000200000000000000010000000100000000,timestamp=2018-09-21T22:38:07.256+0000) > > So you agree with my original point which you complained that I was complaining therefore you just wasted your and other people's time for the sake of wanting to prove another person wrong and you also basically just proved that you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. If you feel like insulting me solves anything or that you're wasting your time, for the love of god feel free to stop talking with me. To clearify all the points you went on in your comment that just sounds like babbling; >So you agree with my original point which you complained that I was complaining I did, in fact, never complain about _you_ complaining. Should I elaborate [y/n]? Even though your post is on a margin between the by me described "plain complaining" and "constructive criticism" I did not complain about you directly because you might have atleast tried to be constructive. In addition to that your "original point" which is,as I assume your thread, includes a few more points than the comment I agreed with. I do not agree with those few more points. >therefore you just wasted your and other people's time Therefore a false statement leads to a false conclusion >for the sake of wanting to prove another person wrong ... which is, even in this distorted context, not a bad thing itself, if the other person is actually wrong. >and you also basically just proved that you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Aaaaand here we go. Do you just say that because it sounds cool? You've never even explained _what_ I don't have any idea about or backed it up at all. I'm really sorry but as it stands, it sounds like you're actually the one who doesn't know what he's talking about.
I stopped reading your points after a few sentences, I did not mean to offend (I do not think I did) but you just make no sense. I really think you just want to argue with people for no reason, because you agreed with my post and you are still trying to prove me wrong. XD
: > [{quoted}](name=Ekkogod17,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=BdcQy3Ad,comment-id=0002000000000000000100000001,timestamp=2018-09-21T21:47:46.136+0000) > > Do you agree that these missions like "win onslaught with only 2 augments by all players" or "win onslaught with the same champion" to win good prizes make players only want to play the mode for the rewards rather then the fun and actually trying to normally win the game, which could result in angry players who do not want to waste their time just to play the game for fun being mad and taking everyone as hostage in champ select and then afterwards afking in game to force a surrender so he can quickly get into his next game and hope all his stranger teammates will sacrifice their time and fun to help him win his mission which most of the time fails in solo queue? Please answer with yes or no only. Thanks in advance Did you just say "do you agree" followed by a single seven lines long sentence? That's not really caring. But 'yes' is the answer I'll pick after rereading this ultimatum times. ######If I were to sum up your question: "Could Riot's system result in a revelation of idiots?" Yes, yes it could.
So you agree with my original point which you complained that I was complaining therefore you just wasted your and other people's time for the sake of wanting to prove another person wrong and you also basically just proved that you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
: >If you played onslaught, you would understand ( I am judging that you did not play it) I played it, got all missions on one account and half of it on 2 other. I played 2h onslaught alone just with the intention to get a taste of the state of the community. Since time was not the issue, I got all mission on one account in the first 4 days, without any stress. What I meant with plain complaining was complaining without seeking improvement of the issue. Not the desire for the problem to be solved but the desire to not feel responsible for someone's own misery. Yes that exists. Yes that's frequently visible more and more. And that's something that makes my stomach turn.
Do you agree that these missions like "win onslaught with only 2 augments by all players" or "win onslaught with the same champion" to win good prizes make players only want to play the mode for the rewards rather then the fun and actually trying to normally win the game, which could result in angry players who do not want to waste their time just to play the game for fun being mad and taking everyone as hostage in champ select and then afterwards afking in game to force a surrender so he can quickly get into his next game and hope all his stranger teammates will sacrifice their time and fun to help him win his mission which most of the time fails in solo queue? Please answer with yes or no only. Thanks in advance
: > [{quoted}](name=Ekkogod17,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=BdcQy3Ad,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2018-09-21T19:33:55.058+0000) > > Yes whenever they do something wrong they will get stick for it its called criticism. There is a difference between constructive criticism and plain complaining. You might know the difference, a lot don't, who also just support your criticism for the sake of complaining. >You have no idea what you are talking about. I doubt that. >We are talking about how some missions ruined the new mode not how missions are bad overall. I might got little overboard in comparing, because in almost every event there've been complaints about _missions_ to an extent where one could question that missions aren't such a good thing overall. However, this _was_ indeed a general statement and could be regarded as off topic.
We are complaining about something that is wrong. There is nothing wrong with that. Actually it helps riot to fix these problems in the future. Without "plain complaining" then league would never improve. It makes changes all the time because of the "plain complaining" that players give to the company for improvement. For example we are "plainly complaining" about their mistake so they would fix it or not do something similar in the future. r If you played onslaught, you would understand ( I am judging that you did not play it)
: > [{quoted}](name=Nanien,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=BdcQy3Ad,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-09-21T12:26:09.862+0000) > > Completely agree, its very poorly designed and Im stunned that Riot couldn't predict that such system would never work. I don't blame the players, its 100% due to bad design. What ever Riot does there will be player complaining. I don't know why they even created missions and loot to give out free stuff if it's just extra work and they get complaints for it. >I don't blame the players, its 100% due to bad design. This is really, really ridiculous. Have you _ever_ designed anything? Do you know how hard it is to make things idiot proof? Especially in a world that keeps producing better idiots?
Yes whenever they do something wrong they will get stick for it its called criticism. You have no idea what you are talking about. We are talking about how some missions ruined the new mode not how missions are bad overall.
: They ARE nice guys, but I will never defend Riot when they %%%% up. And they do sometimes, and if they do, i tell them.
I'm pretty sure they are, but when I go to seek their assistance, they dont even read what I say, after putting 20 minutes into providing a good argument, and just want to get rid of me asap like they probably do to most others.
: With them, not for them. I worked on something, I needed something from Riot, I got it from them. That doesn't make them my colleagues.
I am not good at english but I thought that colleague means someone who you work with. I work for my boss but he is not my colleague, however the workers who I am working with are. Anyway, whatever you want to call it, my point is that you say that because you have a relationship with them and maybe they are nice guys.
: You probably had your cut of wins because of inters and trolls in the other team anyway, the only difference being you don't really care about these because you are more than ok with picking an easy win and move on like nothing happened. So just accept that luck swings your way and not every now and then, and don't complain. And banning your team's champions is a f@@king godsend and a right everyone has. The fact that sometimes someone will use that right to troll it's unfortunate, but suffering this occasionally is way more preferable than, simply put, having a {{champion:157}} feeder in every game. Because this is what would happen without the chance to ban hovered champs. If you want to defend against CS trolls, just don't hover your champ, or hover {{champion:17}} everytime. People will understand the message.
I only read your first sentence, NO for every inter/troll my enemy team has, I get about 3-5. Not everyone is that lucky. So if we go "its a 50% u get on ur enemy team and ur team", then ranked will just be a new poker game.
: > You obviously say that because they are your colleagues like everyone else does Rioters are not my colleagues, I don't work for Riot. In fact I work for another gaming company, so if anything, they are my competitors. > if they implement some kind of system that detects if they did some things that an inter would not If that would be as easy as you make it sound, we wouldn't have a problem in the first place.
U said u worked with them?? I said some things not all things, i dont know just making ideas.
: > Why not maybe 500 inters a day in each region, 10 secs to know if it is true. Yeah, maybe 500 inters per day. And 100 to 1000 times as many people reported as inters that also need to be checked. THAT is the problem. If you would already know who the actual inters are, you wouldn't need to check. But you don't, so you need to check everything. And those numbers are way beyond of what's manageable. Also 10 seconds are not even close to being enough to judge an entire game. 10 seconds are like one death without any gameplay context. With just 10 seconds, you can make everyone look like an inter. > the fair play support who respond to tickets are already doing nothing anyway, they just tell you sorry and thanks for reporting. I work with them frequently and that's simply not true. They are hard working people and they are good at what they do. Not sure what else to say about this.
It is not that hard to see if the inter is not real, especially if they implement some kind of system that detects if they did some things that an inter would not. You obviously say that because they are your colleagues like everyone else does. They have been very lazy and annoying for me. + if the players have to make a ticket for this, not many would so it would be much less. Some people do not have time or dedication to waste 10 minutes into making this especially if the inter is not real.
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: > There is nothing to abuse if the int is clear from level 1 So people who want to int would just start to int a bit later. > , maybe if it would only be possible from tickets not a system meaning a real life trained person would have to look at it to make it 100% its not abuse to prevent the lp. That basically means it is impossible. League is way waaay too big for that. It's impossible to pay for. You have to consider that checking this includes those games where no one actually inted. And people report for inting for no reason A LOT. This amount of work is impossible to pay for. This idea is pretty common, which is why people already calculated this quite often. The costs for a system like that are around a billion per year, even with shitty quality standards (Rioters rushing these decisions, no double check, shitty salary etc.). That is absolutely impossible to finance, no gaming company on this planet could afford this.
To your first point, how much later? level 4 with 0 gold difference? or level 14 with 10000 gold difference? Why not maybe 500 inters a day in each region, 10 secs to know if it is true. Maybe some would also be trusted volunteers from the community, the fair play support who respond to tickets are already doing nothing anyway, they just tell you sorry and thanks for reporting. About the "shitty quality standards" then everything else is abusable because of this because there will be people like this in every company.
: Several of the methods I mentioned still work, so it's still abusable, even if you consider the limitation you just mentioned.
There is nothing to abuse if the int is clear from level 1 and if so, maybe if it would only be possible from tickets not a system meaning a real life trained person would have to look at it to make it 100% its not abuse to prevent the lp.
: > I believe that if a player ints ur game on purpose from level 1 because they feel like it and lose you lp, THAT IS CORRUPTION. That is not at all what the word corruption means. Maybe its bad or frustrating or demotivating or something like that, but the word corruption has absolutely nothing to do with it. If you would get your LP back in those cases, this would be abusable. Game is not going to well? Let your friend int for your, problem solved. Or pay someone to int for you. Or flame and provoke people until they int. Or if you are a youtuber or streamer, let your fans int for you when you are about to lose a match. That's why giving back LP in games with inters would actually INCREASE inting, which is the exact opposite of what you want. Not a good idea and not a valid solution for the inting problem.
Yes you are right it is not the literal meaning of corruption but I thought people would understand what I mean. But you are wrong on your second paragraph, you did not read all of my post it seems, I posted a match history of rengar support with cleanse, who started inting from level 1, and said that he will be inting from champ select, therefore game was not even began and he started inting which means in cases like that we were not losing and it was not our fault.
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