Endellion (EUW)
: Without solo players the combination of teams would only be: 2 + 3 5 That's it. The waiting time and matchmaking would be absolutely horrible.
I don't think it would be _absolutely horrible_. Just a bit higher than what it is now. Overall I think my proposed change would promote higher team play and result in a better overall experience for everyone.
Viavarian (EUW)
: I expect parties of 4 are disabled because being the solo player with a premade of 4 is one of the shittiest situations in the history of video games. Meanwhile 2+2+1 is no problem at all. Being the solo jungler in a 2+2+1 game is great because e.g. a mid/top lane premade actually help each other instead of just expecting the jungler to win all their lanes.
I totally understand. But how would that be better than a mid/top/jungler premade and adc/support or mid/top premade and adc/support/jungler premades?
DearPear (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Suicide Gene,realm=EUW,application-id=VnI9tlaf,discussion-id=j4mWAq92,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-11-21T20:04:04.774+0000) > > Ranked Solo/duo is finally out and there is no reason to play flex queue as a solo player. Actually there is. > [{quoted}](name=Suicide Gene,realm=EUW,application-id=VnI9tlaf,discussion-id=j4mWAq92,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-11-21T20:04:04.774+0000) > > It goes against what it was designed for and there is no need of solo players since groups of 4 people are disabled. It wasn't designed around a restriction you suppose should be added but never was. > [{quoted}](name=Suicide Gene,realm=EUW,application-id=VnI9tlaf,discussion-id=j4mWAq92,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-11-21T20:04:04.774+0000) > > I truly believe this should be disabled. Let's say someone that plays with his friends in flex queue is actually higher ranked than his true solo/duo rank. Why does he have the option to play solo and be the weaker player in someone's team if he didn't get that rank by playing solo in the first place? I mean, don't go there solo if you don't want to. What's your point there?
My point is, if I go as a duo or trio premades. Why do I have to play with solo players that got an higher rank than they should while playing with their premade friends? Do you understand the issue?
Alex3995 (EUW)
: he has a solid point tho
If someone prefers team play then flex queue is perfect. Gather 4 other friends and play as a 5 man premade. Solo players on flex queue seems like someone just wanting to get carried by team with the better premades, since being a solo players doesn't provide a whole lot in a queue where the main reason is to have premades.
Viavarian (EUW)
: > And there is plenty of 3 and 2 man premades to play with eachother. "Plenty" is not enough. To have low queue times, there needs to be the exact same number of 2-man premades and 3-man premades. I'm pretty sure that is NOT the case, so solo players are required because they can be used as wildcards to complete any team.
Queue times would be bigger, true. But still. Flex was design for premades. That's why there isn't an option to play 4 premades, because someone would have to be a solo player.
Tarolock (EUW)
: and why does it hurt your if you can go solo in flexqueue? just dont go in there and as a matter of fact ill be playing flex only as solo, because i hate soloq where everyone goes after their own head instead of working together
There can be as much team play in solo/duo as in flex. It just doesn't feel right to play a queue designed to be meant as a way to play with premades competitively as a solo player.
Doomley (EUW)
: Flex queue needs solo players to survive. 4 man teams are not the only ones that need solo players. Possible combinations taht also need solo players are 3+1+1 2+2+1 2+1+1+1 1+1+1+1+1. If there wouldn't be solo players in flex, the queue times and team balance would be horrible.
2+2+1 would have to be 2+3. All others would be non existent. I don't believe your last point. 5 premades would only play with other 5 premades. And there is plenty of 3 and 2 man premades to play with eachother. Solo/duo is the place for the solo players to play in, there is no benefit of playing flex as a solo player other then hoping to be in the team the better premades and getting carried.
Infernape (EUW)
: Because some people (believe it or not) prefer the environment of playing as a team over playing solo.
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: > [{quoted}](name=CirpaDaBoss,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=4zc0u5K8,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2016-10-27T09:14:09.653+0000) > > What champions do you usually play? Tryndamere and Jayce xD... And Anivia, because i was lucky the first games with her, but i suck now with her.
You are trynda main too? Awesome to see! :D
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