: > [{quoted}](name=Clarice,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=A3edTAlj,comment-id=0001000000020000,timestamp=2017-10-05T10:54:34.756+0000) > > I dont believe this lol, Ive gotten punished once, in s2, got like a 24h ban (due to leaving games because of bad internet). other than that, ive never gotten a warning or chat suspension or ANYTHING of that matter. > > I instantly got a 14 day ban 3 days ago for saying "this will be a hard game for us with our teamcomp" "please stop whine, we will be alright if you calm down" "you know what, if ur gonna keep flaming %%%" > > Yes, the chat logs showing why i got banned literally says the first sentence "this will be a hard game for us with our teamcomp" was one of the reasons i got banned, since its in the list. i dont understand why this is mean/offensive in anyway. > > instant, badoom ban, 1 game, 3 setences, now yeah, i understand saying k.y.s is bad but he was the one flaming :c not me, i just said it once lol, i never talk in chat, if people report me its because they think i play bad or something, so i got 14 day ban from 1 game, and i shouldnt have tolerance lvl 0 since ive only gotten punished once before in s2, if the report system resets to zero, seems to me it doesnt well i have proof but it in Russian ) ask sup if u want
> [{quoted}](name=Kinetic Janna ,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=A3edTAlj,comment-id=00010000000200000001,timestamp=2017-10-05T22:08:22.322+0000) > > well i have proof but it in Russian ) ask sup if u want and what proof do you have?
: I have been permanently banned for being passive aggressive in chat.
: > [{quoted}](name=TILTED2TRICKPONY,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=A3edTAlj,comment-id=000b0000,timestamp=2017-10-05T16:22:23.125+0000) > > Yeah but I got banned for the games mate. I got what I deserved there. But this is another story. It's one game where I didn't even flame hard. And how many games you expect to be able to flame before it's clear that you won't stop and therefore you got to be banned? 1000 games?
> [{quoted}](name=Sarchiapon,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=A3edTAlj,comment-id=000b00000000,timestamp=2017-10-05T16:37:46.111+0000) > > And how many games you expect to be able to flame before it's clear that you won't stop and therefore you got to be banned? 1000 games? Maybe 2 games at least? Or maybe I should actually flame some one personal and then get banned for it. I see no hard flame here. BTW: FLAMING = / = Cussing or Swearing . When you do it over and over again it is called flaming, which I was not.
: Except that you were suspended for 14 days previously and you were warned that this was your last straw. So it's not "just one game".
Yeah but I got banned for the games mate. I got what I deserved there. But this is another story. It's one game where I didn't even flame hard.
: The system probably filtered "s h i t", "bad jungler" and "bronze calls"
Yeah probably :( Do you think I have any chance of getting my account back? Man I am so concerned right now, if I will get the account back the next thing I will do right away will be installing phraseexpress and transforming any bad word into spongebob quotes
: > yes but it's not that toxic either to be taken into account in 1 game. You telling me you have no slippery moments? You get banned in 1 game when you are extremely toxic, which I was surely not Seems like you are in complete denial. Don't you see that you already had plenty of "slippery moments"? At this point it doesn't matter that what you've said isn't that toxic. The only thing that matters is, that you refuse you behave sportsmanlike. You've been warned multiple times, now you have to suffer the consequences. I have never received any form of punishment in my 7 years of playing this game.
Dude don't you get this or are you just trolling me? I had these slippery moments and I was banned for it for 14 DAYS. I got what I deserved. And this is DONEZO. OVER. THE PAST. Now you get punished off one game if you are truly toxic/hateful, which I was not. The past games do not matter. I was permanently banned for this game, and not for the games in the past, that is why this only matters and not the games that were 14 days before. > I have never received any form of punishment in my 7 years of playing this game. what do you want me to say to that? you are the best?
: > [{quoted}](name=TILTED2TRICKPONY,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=A3edTAlj,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2017-10-05T12:24:46.404+0000) > > I DID NOT CALL MY TEAMMATE bad. I called the enemy jungler bad, to tilt him off his zone which actually worked pretty well It doesn't matter if you did it to someone on your team or the enemy team. I'm not sure what you want to prove with that link.
> "Muhammed Ali did this, Miyamoto Musashi did this, many other sportsmen do that to tilt of the enemy off their zone. Maybe a bit of unsportsmenlike but no way in particular to be thrown in the same pot as toxic insutling players" You can actually do this. The enemy is not forced to read my all chat. I did not personally insult them. I just said they are bad based on my experience in league that's it. Actually it does matter if you do it to someone on your or the enemy team, because you just said: > "The point here is not if someone is good or bad or whatever (yes that itself is subjective). The point is that it is passive aggressive. That comment itself has no other purpose than to insult an other person. It doesn't help you, him or your team." It actually helps my team. We could win the game by tilting off the enemy players. That's the point, stop answering me and telling me there is no difference if you are not reading the answers that I write.
: > What matters is that I cannot write something negative on all chat without being punished for it. Duh. Shouldn't that be obvious? You are not allowed to insult another player. Enemy or teammate.
Why not enemy? Again, I did not insult his personal life, this is just the game. I can say things like you are bad at a champion or even a game, this doesn't mean you are a bad person or an insult. It's just my point of view saying you are not a good at X champion/game for me. Maybe I saw people doing better in that ELO or whatever, just a simple statement, there is no reason to get mad over that. Muhammed Ali did this, Miyamoto Musashi did this, many other sportsmen do that to tilt of the enemy off their zone. Maybe a bit of unsportsmenlike but no way in particular to be thrown in the same pot as toxic insutling players
: Keep in mind, that if he is now permanently banned he received other punishments before, probably for more severe behaviour. After a 14 Days Ban you have to behave almost perfectly... and this is far from being perfect or decent behaviour.
yes but it's not that toxic either to be taken into account in 1 game. You telling me you have no slippery moments? You get banned in 1 game when you are extremely toxic, which I was surely not
: > This was just to tilt the enemy jungler. Calling some one bad isn't that toxic and is subjective. I didn't attack him personally You did attack someone personally. It is toxic and it is **not subjective**. The point here is not if someone is good or bad or whatever (yes that itself is subjective). The point is that it is passive aggressive. That comment itself has no other purpose than to insult an other person. It doesn't help you, him or your team. You also admitted that this was to "tilt the enemy jungler". Such comments demoralize pretty much everybody. Imagine we are playing together (not necessarily league). I keep calling you bad and I keep commenting about everything you do that it's bad. Would you keep playing with me? Would you enjoy playing with me? > TILTED2TRICKPONY: bronze calls again an indicator that his calls were bad. NO ATTACKS on the player was made Same as above. Additionally you attacked everybody who is in bronze. You implied here that everybody in bronze makes bad/wrong calls. Pretty much everything you posted above is passive aggressive. If you wrote one or two lines in a game every now and then it wouldn't be a big deal. If it's all from one game a suspension is deserved. If you have done this multiple times a ban is deserved in my opinion.
Dude go read the book of five rings https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Book_of_Five_Rings it is a book about some samurai wannabe where he simply tilts his opponents to win handicapped matches. I DID NOT CALL MY TEAMMATE bad. I called the enemy jungler bad, to tilt him off his zone which actually worked pretty well but still though we lost btw. he admitted that. What matters is that I cannot write something negative on all chat without being punished for it.
: I have been permanently banned for being passive aggressive in chat.
: lot of talk for 30 min game ask sup there is more then 1 game 100% (dont know why they send u only 1, there must be more then 1) and u gor ban not for flame but for abuse other players (trust me i flame 24/7 all games) but never abuse no one, and am fine....
i didn't abuse them too. They should check the game. I mean the TF fed on purpose mid. He died on lux the first time which really wasn't his fault, but the second time he ulted right into her while i pinged him to go back and he wrote something like "I don't care what you ping"
Savrak (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=TILTED2TRICKPONY,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=A3edTAlj,comment-id=0001000000010000,timestamp=2017-10-04T22:10:57.187+0000) > > But I am asking again, can you point out the exact part where I was really toxic, which makes you say Well I'd report you for that. > [{quoted}](name=TILTED2TRICKPONY,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=A3edTAlj,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-10-04T20:44:53.868+0000) > > TILTED2TRICKPONY: bronze calls > > TILTED2TRICKPONY: and the bad jungler just wastes his time > > TILTED2TRICKPONY: no cuase u simply >TILTED2TRICKPONY: bad > > TILTED2TRICKPONY: get > TILTED2TRICKPONY: s h i t o n As others have said, the 14 day ban was your last chance. In this log you were negative and insulting in several places (quoted above) but one of the most likely reasons is that you purposely used extra spaces to avoid the chat filter (and quite literally talk shit).
> TILTED2TRICKPONY: and the bad jungler just wastes his time >TILTED2TRICKPONY: no cuase u simply TILTED2TRICKPONY: bad This was just to tilt the enemy jungler. Calling some one bad isn't that toxic and is subjective. I didn't attack him personally. I can also say the grass is blue, which might be false but it's a statement I choose. You don't have to agree with that, simple. > TILTED2TRICKPONY: bronze calls again an indicator that his calls were bad. NO ATTACKS on the player was made. I just told a statement, maybe a negative one still it's his playstyle I mumble about not his person. >TILTED2TRICKPONY: get TILTED2TRICKPONY: s h i t o n Maybe this was a bit too much since this was in all chat, but idk I feel too passionate about playing the game and love to talk to my enemies. They also talked back to me mostly negative. They still didn't get a permanent ban or even a punishment.
: I have been permanently banned for being passive aggressive in chat.
archerno1 (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=TILTED2TRICKPONY,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=A3edTAlj,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2017-10-04T20:58:42.697+0000) > > Yeah I was toxic when I was banned in the 14Days game. But one slip and I'm out? Maybe I just tilted here and wanted to go to sleep. I wasn't very toxic just said bad things such as "you are bad". It's personal I admit but do you have to get banned for that? Exactly this. 14 days ban is your last and final warning. Any slip, even the smallest can get you perma banned.
But I am asking again, can you point out the exact part where I was really toxic, which makes you say Well I'd report you for that.
: You were kinda toxic but it is far from being something that deserves permban. Write to support. This system is bad and could took your words like "wanna die" as death threats which are bannable for 14 days straight away and sometimes can be perma.
Yeah you know I said that to tristana that choose to die under my turret instead of doing baron. It isn't an insult to his personality but rather to his playstyle
Fathands (EUW)
: 14 day bans are a last warning. So yes, one slip and you're out.
But can you read the chat log and point me the exact point where it went "too far"
7adzius (EUW)
: You don't get banned just for one game. If you have been banned then there is a really high chance that you deserve it. If you're still salty about it you should contact riot support asking for some one to review your suspension.
Well contacted them too. Let's see what they have to say except for the automated "it's deserved" message. As previously said I was toxic in the previous 14 days ban but this one I wasn't that of a bad person. I mean I kinda was negative but it was on purpose, I mean I can't writing good job! Well done! all the time
: The 14 day suspension included a reform card which stated "any further misconduct will result in a permanent suspension". You were negative, you got reported, you got banned. All in all deserved.
Yeah I was toxic when I was banned in the 14Days game. But one slip and I'm out? Maybe I just tilted here and wanted to go to sleep. I wasn't very toxic just said bad things such as "you are bad". It's personal I admit but do you have to get banned for that?
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